Topic: Get It Right (22 of 39), Read 59 times
Conf: Opposing Views
From: Solarus
Date: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:27 PM

Hotep

The level of scholarship on this board is laughable.

> It's not ridiculous. The source is
>The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers.
>The source also lists an Indian cult
>which has sacrificed millions of people
>to the God
>Kali.

Kali was/is a HINDU Goddess, what does this have to do with the aboriginal peoples of the land now called America? Columbus made the mistake of calling them "Indians" over 500 years ago and you are STILL making this mistake. Get it RIGHT.

Also One must understand that "Hinduism" is an ARYANIZED perversion of the original BLACK Dravidic tradition. Thus again the infectious Western culture distorts/suppresses/perverts again.


>Why don't you do research and find out
>how many Africans are killed by other
>Africans each year. Africans killed
>500,000
>fellow Africans with machetes in Rwanda.
>90% of all slaves were held by Spain.

Why don't YOU research on how the Hutu and Tutsi lived in relative peace until the Germany imperialized the land (and then Belgium after Germans lost WWII) and caused division among them.

"In 1935 the Belgian colonial administration introduced a discriminatory national identification on the basis of ethnicity. Banyarwanda who possessed ten or more cows were registered as Batutsi whereas those with less were registered as Bahutu. At first, the belgian authorities, for political and practical reasons, favoured the King and his chiefs, who were mostly a Batutsi ruling elite. When the demand for independence began, mainly by a political party - Union Nationale Rwandaise (UNAR) - formed by people from the aforementioned ruling elite, the Belgian authorities hastily nurtured another party called PARMEHUTU that was founded on a sectarian ethnic ideology. Under the Belgian supervision, the first massacres of Batutsi at the hands of the PARMEHUTU occurred in 1959. With Belgian connivance, PARMEHUTU abolished the monarchy amidst widespread violence."-http://www.rwanda1.com/government/rwandalaunchie.html

>Why
>don't you hit up Hispanics for
>reparations?
>The Spanish killed most of the Indians
>and
>held most slaves. By your logic you
>should
>have Hispanics take on this collective
>blame.

Spanish= person from Spain (Europeans with ALOT of Moorish blood)
Hispanic= person from a Latin-American country.

Same thing? I think not. GET IT RIGHT!

>It was their ancestors. I am Swedish.
>You or other people can post about
>killings or wars that have occurred
>throughout history. However the people
>alive
>today had nothing to do with it.

But you still benefit from it.

> I don't agree with your premise that
>whites commit a disproportionate amount
>of war or violence. If you handed other
>groups advanced military technology they
>would kill in greater numbers.

Why universalize? The "human nature" argument is pitiful. See the first post.
The question to ask is: WHY WAS THIS TECHNOLOGY CREATED?
If you look at the majority of European/Western inventions (particularly in the modern-age) they are usually based on refining WAR TACTICS.

>If you want to focus on the 20th century
>and wars and killings among non whites
>then
>again do research on the death toll in
>Africa. Consider the 60 million killed
>by
>Chinese Communists. Consider Pol Pot,
>The
>East Timor massacre, the VC, all the
>wars
>in South America, the Japanese war
>against
>China, etc.

The question is: HOW MANY OF THESE WARS/MASSACRES INVOLVED AND/OR WERE INSTIGATED BY WESTERN/EUROPEAN NATIONS?

ALL!


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Topic: Get It Right (23 of 39), Read 3 times
Conf: Opposing Views
From: Lance
Date: Sunday, April 22, 2001 01:41 PM

On 4/20/01 10:27:00 PM, Solarus wrote:
>Hotep
>
>The level of scholarship on
>this board is laughable.

You are proof of that.

>> It's not ridiculous. The source is
>>The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers.
>>The source also lists an Indian cult
>>which has sacrificed millions of people
>>to the God
>>Kali.
>
>Kali was/is a HINDU Goddess,
>what does this have to do with
>the aboriginal peoples of the
>land now called America?
>Columbus made the mistake of
>calling them "Indians" over
>500 years ago and you are
>STILL making this mistake. Get
>it RIGHT.

No, I am not making the mistake. When I said Indian I meant people in India(Calcutta,
Bombay). You made a false assumption.

*(Personal notation: the discussion was SPECIFICALLY about the native peoples of the land now called America. Why make a comment about a land/people not in the discussion?)

>Also One must understand that
>"Hinduism" is an ARYANIZED
>perversion of the original
>BLACK Dravidic tradition.
>Thus again the infectious
>Western culture
>distorts/suppresses/perverts
>again.
>
>
>>Why don't you do research and find out
>>how many Africans are killed by other
>>Africans each year. Africans killed
>>500,000
>>fellow Africans with machetes in Rwanda.
>>90% of all slaves were held by Spain.
>
>Why don't YOU research on how
>the Hutu and Tutsi lived in
>relative peace until the
>Germany imperialized the land
>(and then Belgium after
>Germans lost WWII) and caused
>division among them.
>
>"In 1935 the Belgian colonial
>administration introduced a
>discriminatory national
>identification on the basis of
>ethnicity. Banyarwanda who
>possessed ten or more cows
>were registered as Batutsi
>whereas those with less were
>registered as Bahutu. At
>first, the belgian
>authorities, for political and
>practical reasons, favoured
>the King and his chiefs, who
>were mostly a Batutsi ruling
>elite. When the demand for
>independence began, mainly by
>a political party - Union
>Nationale Rwandaise (UNAR) -
>formed by people from the
>aforementioned ruling elite,
>the Belgian authorities
>hastily nurtured another party
>called PARMEHUTU that was
>founded on a sectarian ethnic
>ideology. Under the Belgian
>supervision, the first
>massacres of Batutsi at the
>hands of the PARMEHUTU
>occurred in 1959. With Belgian
>connivance, PARMEHUTU
>abolished the monarchy amidst
>widespread
>violence."-http://www.rwanda1.
>com/government/rwandalaunchie.
>html
>
>>Why
>>don't you hit up Hispanics for
>>reparations?
>>The Spanish killed most of the Indians
>>and
>>held most slaves. By your logic you
>>should
>>have Hispanics take on this collective
>>blame.
>
>Spanish= person from Spain
>(Europeans with ALOT of
>Moorish blood)
>Hispanic= person from a
>Latin-American country.
>
>Same thing? I think not. GET
>IT RIGHT!

I never said they were the same thing.

*(Personal notation: If they weren't the same thing, WHY MAKE THE COMMENT?)
>>It was their ancestors. I am Swedish.
>>You or other people can post about
>>killings or wars that have occurred
>>throughout history. However the people
>>alive
>>today had nothing to do with it.
>
>But you still benefit from it.
>
>> I don't agree with your premise that
>>whites commit a disproportionate amount
>>of war or violence. If you handed other
>>groups advanced military technology they
>>would kill in greater numbers.
>
>Why universalize? The "human
>nature" argument is pitiful.
>See the first post.
>The question to ask is: WHY
>WAS THIS TECHNOLOGY CREATED?
>If you look at the majority of
>European/Western inventions
>(particularly in the
>modern-age) they are usually
>based on refining WAR TACTICS.
>
>>If you want to focus on the 20th century
>>and wars and killings among non whites
>>then
>>again do research on the death toll in
>>Africa. Consider the 60 million killed
>>by
>>Chinese Communists. Consider Pol Pot,
>>The
>>East Timor massacre, the VC, all the
>>wars
>>in South America, the Japanese war
>>against
>>China, etc.
>
>The question is: HOW MANY OF
>THESE WARS/MASSACRES INVOLVED
>AND/OR WERE INSTIGATED BY
>WESTERN/EUROPEAN NATIONS?
>
>ALL!

No. Wars and massacres were happening
around the world long before the first Europeans got there.

*(Personal notation: the comment was specifically geared towards the aforementioned massacres/wars of the 20th century that Lance noted.)

>PEace
>Solarus
>
>On understanding Afrikan
>thought:
>"it's like explaining
>astrophysics to a whino, the
>explanation can't be done like
>that. when people try to
>simplify it, they ask the
>other person to tailor the
>answers their cultural
>context. and trying to cater
>afrikan ideals to european
>understanding is a REAL
>sin."-utamaroho



PROPS to Ape Redwood for representing but alas, you are wasting your time. Like you said build with "open-minded" Europeans. stormfront is full of ignorant Europeans blinded by a lack of self-esteem, which is the worst kind. When Europeans realize that they are truly DISPLACED, BAMBOOZLED, HOODWINKED, AFRAKANS, then some TRUE building amongst their(your)selves can begin. As long as you THINK you are separated you WILL be separated.

I have to say that I'm really like all my European okp's now. Even you alek, with your constant universalizing. :-)