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14115, RE: SCENE FROM MALCOLM X
Posted by alek, Sun Apr-22-01 10:35 AM
Yeah, what a genius Spike Lee is.


>MALCOLM
>For the white man
>to ask the black man
>if he
>hates him is just
>like the rapist asking the
>raped, or the wolf
>asking the sheep, "Do you
>hate me!" The white
>man is in no moral
>position
>to accuse anyone of
>hate.

And guess what? Neither is Malcolm X.

>i hope this will be
>the last time you en"lighten"
>"US" with your point of
>view on a topic which
>no one should respond to
>alek.

Sorry man. We're all trying to educate. That's why it gets edgy.

>of the list of
>people i expected to criticize
>historical quotes, you were among
>the top.

Heheh.

>but no matter,
>while you say no one
>is being educated my inbox
>and email and ears are
>saturated with dialogue between those
>afrikan people who never want
>to forget what these creatures
>have done to us/the diaspora/
>and the planet.

I didn't say your posts weren't provocative. I think they often spark terrific dialogue, but my response was meant to be part of that dialogue. I should have spent more time on it. What I meant, and this is ALWAYS what I mean, is that when you use "these creatures vs. us" rhetoric, you're not winning. You're losing. That's just my opinion about how we're going to achieve widespread positive social change in our country. That's a sure way to fail, and I'm always going to check that rhetoric and that anger when I see it.

>it would
>be a waste of my
>time typing and your time
>reading/understanding to illustrate the concept
>of Sankofa.

Why? You think because I disagree that I can't/don't understand? Let me explain something. Belief/creed doesn't work that way -- i.e. if you understand you MUST agree, like belief is a component of understanding. Nope. By all means, don't waste your time if you don't want to, but I assure you I'll be reading if you're posting.

>other "nonextreme" posts
>that i've made have gone
>unanswered but the very thing
>about truth is that at
>times there is no response
>needed, at least no verbal
>response anyways, when one gets
>that glimpse of truth, it
>is ACTED upon and ACTUALIZED.

That's right. But if I'm worried that when you present your version of truth people are going to act on it, I damn well HAVE to respond so that they might think again.

>thanks for using that word
>"hate" though.

I calls em like I sees em.

>my future responses
>towards to you will now
>be for the education of
>the afrikan readers to the
>classic techniques of modern europeans
>to cripple "our way".

Ha. Okay, please expose to everyone this white "creature" they call Alek. Boy, all that stuff he says about separatism, class/cultural solidarity, coalition-building, community, diversity...that's how he's "crippling" everyone. Real walking destruction.

>REMEMBERING
>the past so as not
>to get taken advantage of
>again is never in the
>spirit of hate.

Yes, I agree. But sometimes hate comes along with it. My grandparents had some pretty deep-seated hate towards Germans. I couldn't stand it...wasn't getting us anywhere.

>I pray this is the last
>time you waste time typing
>in response to me and
>my extreme posts,

pray hard.

>although i
>have this horrible feeling it
>won't be.

dun dun DUHHHHNNN.

>*seriously people, why is this guy
>afraid of the truth?

I love how you call the random quotes you post "truth," then expect everyone to automatically share your derision for people who have a different version.

>and
>if not afraid, why even
>question it?

Yeah. We wouldn't want to be questioning anyone's version of truth. You never do that.

>these aren't even
>"my" words, but those of
>people long ago.

That must make them more applicable now.


>i can
>barely help but laugh at
>the kind of self-conscious/predictable drivel
>he offers.

"Self-conscious/predictable drivel." POT CALLING THE KETTLE.

RESPOND PLEASE.

ALEK


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