my point for writing this although not stated was the fact that the word bible was left out. hence admiting to the fact that their argument stems form different oral teachings. the fact that the latter-day saints know that the bible was begin constrcuted was another point to which we have to look at the whole argument is the nature of christ and the only reason it happend was because there was no written doctrine until the cannons became part of the actual scriptures. but this raises another point isn't it amazing that the same cannon of jesus is dvinty is found in the bible but before hand it wasn't and hence it had to be formatted in.....