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Posted by viagramakesmeimpotent, Thu Jun-21-01 06:55 AM
>apoc said:
>"Christian"
>>>doesn't define who we are,
>>>but who we are following.

Those who believe in Christ as the Messiah prophecised in the OT.
The Messiah revealed Himself to Be God. (Second "person" of the Godhead. 1st "person" God the Father, 3rd "person" God the Holy Spirit But One God in nature and essence)

>jenn said:
>>>What i am saying is that
>>>Christianity and Judaism are one.

John 5: 58 "I tell you the Truth" Jesus answered "before abraham was I AM!" Jesus claim to be "I AM" The name God revealed to Moses and God had moses tell Israel That's who sent him (moses). This term "I am" among the Jews was one for God (OT). Since there's is only One God (Duet 6: 4) revealed as a triune God (Matt: 3: 16) The God of OT is the God of the NT




>so if "christianity" defines who yall
>are following,

the term 1)"christianity"- followers of Christ as the Messiah There's also the Term 2)"Messianic Jew"- ethnic Jewish Followers of Christ as the messiah. The term Judeo-christian applies to both 1) and 2) because both accept that the God of the OT and NT are the same.

1- identifies with those that follow christ as the messiah
2- identifies with jews that follow christ as the messiah

1 can apply to both Jew and Gentile
2 can only apply to Jews due to ethnicity

how can christianity
>and judaism be one,

Because the God of The OT is The God of NT. Father, Son and Holy Spirit Make up the One God of both testaments.

when
>practioners of judaism dont even
>believe in jesus, let alone
>believe who he says he
>is, let alone follow him?

The practioners of judaism (Just the OT) are rejecting the Messiah the is prophecised in the Hebrew Bible(OT). And the Messiah prophecised in the OT revealed Himself to be God Almighty (2nd person of the Godhead) and was the world's sacrifical atonement for the sinners of the world.
1Cor 1: 22 paul talks about how witnessing about the Atonement (Crucified Christ) was a Stumbling block to jews and foolishness to the gentile. But not all jews rejected Jesus i.e Apostles, those people in the OT that was waiting on the Messiah to come Abraham, the Prophets.

Now if someone claims to be Christian and doesn't accept the OT doesn't Know who God is. Those who accept the OT and Not the NT dont know who God is as well. Jesus talks about this to the Pharisees.(john 8: 42-59)





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