Due to the length of your post, I'll just address the points I wanted to respond to.

>I wanted to ask you if
>you could explain to me
>where Muslims get the name
>Allah from.

According to my current studies, "Allah", is derived from the root word "Ilu", found in the dialect of the Semites meaning 'one God'. To quote from the book I mentioned a few posts ago, the writer says "Ilu", whose name was later modified in their dialects into 'Yahweh', 'Jahweh', 'Jehova', and 'Elohim' with the Hebrews and 'Allat', 'Allah', and 'Ilah' with the Arabs. The origin of all these, however, is 'Ilu'.


Also, could you
>let me know what the
>moon and the "*" symbol
>I see mean to the
>muslim religion?

As a member of the Nation of Islam, I can only explain it as it was taught to us by the Hon. Elijah Muhammad.

The Moon is represents equality and the star, justice.

There is a greatly detailed explanation and reason behind this, so for further details, read his book entitled "Message to the Black Man in America" regarding our flag.

>I want to let you know
>that unlike some other Christians
>on here I understand why
>you believe what you believe.
>I am not saying I
>agree, I am just saying
>I understand.

Quick question. How does one gain "understanding" but not "agreement" whereas this is concerned?

>But if a Christian doesn't
>understand why they believe what
>they believe, then Christianity becomes
>what I call Christianism. Christianism
>is not true Christianity but
>an offset of Christianity that
>believes that one can earn
>the right to go to
>heaven.

I "understand" and "agree."

>The one thing we can agree
>on is this, there is
>ONE God, and He is
>perfect. That's where our agreement
>ends.

OK, I'll accept that. A little agreement is better than none at all.

Adam was
>created perfect. He was right
>with God yet He did
>absolutely nothing to earn it.
>He had no rules to
>follow, no rituals to commit
>to.

Hold it right there. As I mention a few posts ago, the ONLY *rule* that divides us (believers from disbelievers) is the 'OBEY GOD RULE'.

>Now I know you don't believe
>this, but because we are
>all the seed of Adam,
>no human being born of
>a mother and father could
>be perfect, no one. Not
>Muhammad, not Buddha, no one.

Now, let's examine this statement for a moment. Since you mention Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Buddah, why was Jesus not mentioned here? You said 'no one', right? More on this later.

>You could do all the
>good works you could and
>you would still make a
>mistake and come short of
>God. And coming short of
>God won't suffice. Because no
>matter how many good works
>you did, you would all
>be judged for what Adam
>did. Which seems unfair.

And this, Mr. Thompkins, would make Allah unjust. Wouldn't you agree?

So
>God impregnated a woman. He
>took her egg and made
>her egg one with His
>word. This was prophesized in
>the old testament.(Let me know
>if you want the scriptures).
>And so God's word became
>flesh. And when God's word
>became flesh, this fleshly version
>of God was called His
>Son.

Unfortunately, this is where we part ways in understanding of the scripture. That is what we call a "spooky" (no offense) understanding of the Word. If you had a young daughter and she came home pregnant sayin' "it was the 'holy ghost' who did it, daddy", you would'nt be lookin' for a spirit who entered your daughter, would you? You'd be lookin' for a man. A MAN. Jesus is called throughout the scripture the "son of MAN" not "son of SPIRIT." In addition, the "son" factor has always been a point of contention w/ Muslims and Christians. The Holy Qur'an is very clear on this point when it states "He begetteth not, nor is He begotten." I'd elaborate further, but I'll continue for space and time sake.


Not because the Father
>came before the word, but
>because the Word became flesh.
>And so Jesus now, being
>100% man, yet 100% God
>refered to God as His
>Father, only because He now
>had flesh. And He kept
>every commandment and became a
>sacrifice.

Now, according to your understanding, Jesus either suffered from a mental disorder having multiple personalities (:-)) or we don't have a proper understanding of Jesus' identity. The bible that *I* read depicts Jesus as being the servant/messenger and God as the Master.

>In the old testament, Jews sacrificed
>animals for their sins. The
>reason they could do this
>was because an animal couldn't
>be guilty of sin. So
>what the Jewish priest would
>do, is impute all the
>sins of man on this
>goat and kill the goat
>thereby killing sin. But the
>problem was, the blood of
>animals was only temporary, this
>is why the Jews had
>to do this, year after
>year. But when God made
>Himself flesh, lives with no
>sin, and became a sacrifice.
>His blood is eternal. So
>what the blood of Jesus
>did was clean sin forever.
>It was able to go
>into the past and clean
>the sins of the men
>and women who lived before
>that time, yet go into
>the future and cleanse us
>who were not yet born
>or had believed. Therefore Jesus,
>became the final sacrifice for
>sin.

Please tell me where did you get this information so I can read up on this stuff!!! Is this scriptural?

In Adam,
>we all come short of
>God. But in Jesus(covered and
>washed by His sacrificial blood)
>we are MADE(like Adam) right
>with God.

This is a favorite topic of mine that I always have w/ my family (who are majority Christian). I reply to it w/ one ? Min. Farrakhan posed when the subject was introduced:

"If Jesus "paid the price in blood" as the Christians say, why is there still a need for a judgement?"

So even when
>I mess up, I always
>get judged based off what
>Jesus did, which is perfection.
>Where as an unbeliever, who
>may do more good deeds
>than me, will always be
>judged based off what Adam
>did.

Please elaborate and tell how you came to the above conclusion. (?)
Once again, this would make Allah an unjust, biased, even prejudiced God.

>And then you say, well that
>means I can sin all
>I want right? Since the
>blood has already covered. But
>the thing is though, if
>God makes you like Him,
>then your nature will be
>a God nature, which means
>you won't practice sin, you'll
>practice what you are, righteousness.
>And when you do sin,
>because we still have this
>sinful flesh from Adam, the
>blood of Jesus has already
>covered it and took care
>of it. This allows man
>to stay where Adam was
>before he fell, in right
>standing with God. God used
>the sacrifice system so that
>man would never require another
>sacrifice.

Again, this is where there is a parting of the ways between us. There is so much to be said regarding the above paragraph that I don't know where to start. Let's start here:

>And then you say, well that
>means I can sin all
>I want right? Since the
>blood has already covered.

See above question that the Min. posed.

>the thing is though, if
>God makes you like Him,
>then your nature will be
>a God nature, which means
>you won't practice sin, you'll
>practice what you are, righteousness.

Now this sounds good, but it, unfortunately, is contradictory to what you stated above regarding "no one" being capable to walk w/ out sin. So one is forced to ask the question, "can man be sinless or not?" According to you, the answer is no/yes.

?

>And when you do sin,
>because we still have this
>sinful flesh from Adam, the
>blood of Jesus has already
>covered it and took care
>of it.

To me, it looks like there's a "loop hole" in the contract or an "out clause" so to speak. Again, the question is asked "why is there a judgement if Jesus already 'covered it'?" Moreover, if Jesus was sent to be an example to man, his testimonial would have been for naught if the above is true.

Would'nt it be great if when I paid my bills it was a representation of all who owed debt to anyone and therefore, there debts also have been paid? Nice, but not quite the reality of Jesus' situation.

In closing, I'll just say what *I* got out of studying (and trying to walk) his example:

We all have our own cross to bear. No man can pick up yours for you. Jesus was just one (of many) that was sent to act as a light-giving sun/son to show the way. The Qur'an says he was sent "as a sign." When you see a sign on the highway, do you stop at the sign saying, "we've made it to our destination" or do you turn on your blinker to go left/right or wherever the sign is directing you to go???


>I can't wait to here how
>Islam thinks about this.

And there you have it.

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"When the Black Man of North America makes up his mind to be that which Allah has created him to be, which is a replica of Himself, then and only then can he call the universe into order."

-Me.