>>>>Now Christianity and black nationalism don't
>>>>really match so I never
>>>>belonged to a church, except
>>>>for a 3-4 year stint
>>>>at a new wave "Science
>>>>of Mind" church that moms
>>>>was goin to when I
>>>>was like 7-11 years old
>>>>(Really new wave. We met
>>>>on the 9th floor of
>>>>the Water Tower Place). My
>>>>parents never really talked bad
>>>>about Christians, but moms did
>>>>point out contradictions that baffled
>>>>her. Like in Exodus when
>>>>God hardened Pharoah's heart so
>>>>he wouldn't let Moses's people
>>>>go.
>
>Responce: I really don't see your
>question here, This seems more
>like a commentary of your
>Christian experiance.

THERE IS NO QUESTION HERE. Look at all the arrows. You are replying to the original text that I replyed to your your reply too. Are you reading these??

>>You believe that this is the
>>truth so you defend it.
>>It is fine if you
>>need for this to make
>>sense to you. But, you
>>must know that you cannot
>>say that He actually hardened
>>his heart by being merciful.
>>If I bust you in
>>the mouth one time, is
>>holding back the second shot
>>to the mouth mercy? Well
>>I guess so in the
>>Bible.
>
>Responce: You lost me here. But
>heres another responce.The sense in
>which God hardened Pharoahs heart
>is similar to the way
>the sun melts wax. If
>Pharoah had been receptive to
>God's warning, his heart would
>not have been hardened by
>God. But when God gave
>Pharoah a reprieve from the
>plagues, he took advantage of
>the situation. If God is
>hardening Pharoah's heart in accordance
>with his own inclination and
>choice, then God cannot be
>charged with being unjust, unloving,
>or acting contrary to their
>God-giving free choice.

Look if God wanted a no-hassle let-my-people-go scenario he would've just gone to the pharoah the way he went to Moses.
This is a fable with a drawn out plot for the sake of suspense.


>>No it doesn't. Read Job again.
>>It starts of with the
>>Devil daring God to fuck
>>Job over to prove that
>>his people will love him
>>even under the worst circumstances.
>>What does God have to
>>prove to anyone that he
>>has any real authority over.
>>That is the only question
>>you need to be asking
>>yourself.


>Responce: No thanks, I've read Job
>enough times for everybody. Your
>missing the point. He is
>not trying to prove something
>to the devil,

Yes he is.

he's trying
>to use the devil to
>complete his will.

Why would God need to use the devil for any purposes. God didn't need the devil to be around to do any of those things to Job. According to the book of Job, God did these things to demonstrate his power over, and the faith of his people. Again omnipotent beings have nothing to prove.


Sometime in scripture
>God uses the devil to
>complete his mission and uses
>suffering to complete his conquest.
>The devil wanted to destroy
>Job while God wanted to
>make Job spirtually complete. And
>if you see the end
>of the book that's just
>what happens God blesses Job
>because of his faith through
>the rough times while the
>devil failed in his mission.
>Showing that God is the
>supreme controller of the world.



>Responce: No not really G.A. Wells
>and another guy are pretty
>much the only ones still(I
>think his name is Thomas
>Martin) holding this view.Neither
>one of these guys are
>Biblical scholars.

The bible says flat out that Jesus exists. So how would being a Biblical scholar help prove his existence, since the proof would have to exist outside of the religious texts?

> The majority admit
>the Christ existed.

Admit....?
They believe that Christ existed.



>Responce: No way theres a million
>things out there that support
>his existance. Like the discovery
>of the Yohanna which was
>a tomb of a man
>who had been cruxified just
>like Jesus with the spike
>and all.

Crucifixion was a means of corporal punishment. That does nothing to help prove the existence of Jesus Christ. And remembr I never said that He didn't exist. It just matters little to me.
Smokey the Bear aint real but if he stops forest fires he's all right with me.


Why wont Jews
>sacrifice animals anymore a tradition
>they have been doing for
>years and plenty more.

Why don't we ride around in buggy's instead of cars? Traditions change. I don't think that the lack of animal sacrifice in Jewish ritual is anything strong enough for any real belief in Jesus Christ to stand on.


>Responce: But, its faith based on
>facts.

Isn't it always. Which facts?- the ones in the Koran, the Bible or my Scientology pamphlet?


>Responce: Because the amount of evidence
>for God is so huge
>that there is no doubt
>in my mind that he exists.
>If you have time try
>to find the evidence for
>God post I had up
>for about a month and
>tell me what you think.

I checked it out when it was up. Didn't find any evidence strong enough to comment on.



>>Define sin and we'll start.

>Responce:Sin is missing the mark of
>God's rightousness. God is perfect
>and sin happpens when we
>fall short of God's glory
>when we offend God.

Okay. What is sin again? How can I offend God? God with all of the powers commonly attributed to Him, is more superior to me that I am to a fly. Never been offended by a fly. Ants are too too insignificant to my existence to allow myself to take offense to anything they do.

Can you not see how insane this sounds.
1. God is perfect.
2. God creates man of his own free will and makes him imperfect.
3. God punishes man for being imperfect.
4. Allows us an escape from this punishment if we all ride his dick.

1+2+3+4 = God is fuckin punk.

Who would do some shit like that but a punk. For real? Don't take this like I'm all angry at religion and tryin to incite a riot but look at it- who would do some shit like that but a punk ass.


No thanks. Don't mean to offend but yall gotta know that this is some 'ol bullshit.
>>


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