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12659, Pharoah heart
Posted by osoclasi, Sat Jun-09-01 08:01 AM
>Born in chicago to two psuedo-revolutionaries
>(i use this term with
>affection. most revolutionaries were pseudo)
>way back in 1979. My
>father was born into a
>country Christian family from Missippi.
>My pops had like a
>140+ iq and as family
>legend goes he had alot
>of the Bible commited to
>memory as a child (not
>neccessarily by choice). My moms
>grew up in Church too,
>but like many who leave
>the Church, she was frustrated
>in her youth by questions
>left unanswered.

Responce: What are some of her questions I'd love to answer them for her.
>
>Now Christianity and black nationalism don't
>really match so I never
>belonged to a church, except
>for a 3-4 year stint
>at a new wave "Science
>of Mind" church that moms
>was goin to when I
>was like 7-11 years old
>(Really new wave. We met
>on the 9th floor of
>the Water Tower Place). My
>parents never really talked bad
>about Christians, but moms did
>point out contradictions that baffled
>her. Like in Exodus when
>God hardened Pharoah's heart so
>he wouldn't let Moses's people
>go.

Responce: Hey I know that this does'nt fit here but listen to this. God Hardening Pharoah's heart is not a contridiction. First really quick ( write back if you want an indepth answer) you have to look at how God hardened Pharaoh's heart. First Pharoah hardened his own heart Ex 7:13 and Ex 8:19. It declares that Pharoah's heart grew hard Ex 7:13. Futhermore, the way God hardened his heart is by showing the Pharoah mercy. every time God would relieve him of a plague the Pharoah's heart grew hard. So in a sense God did harden his heart with mercy the pharoah hardened his own heart out of stubborness.

Or why would an
>omnipotent God have anything to
>prove to the Devil in
>the story of Job? As
>far as I see that
>tale, it proved that Job
>was indeed faithful, and that
>the Devil could make a
>damn fool out of God.
>

Responce: No way, this shows Gods authority even over the powers of darkness. First the devil had to answer to God in the opening of the book. Next God used the Devil to make Job suffer but God wanted to mold Job into a better person. So the Devil wanted to kill Job but God wanted to make him more holy. Yes God is in control of everything.
>
>So from jump I always thought
>tyhat Christianity was kind of
>foolish. As a child reading
>Greek myths I couldn't see
>how they were any more
>fake than the Bible stories.

Responce: Because the Bible has history behind it and is evidential.

>And just growing up with
>nationalist tendencies it's real easy
>to dismiss Christianity on basis
>of the way Europeans have
>used it to fuck minds.

Responce: But you can't look at Europeans and find Christianity you have to go to the source.

>Still in the past 5
>years or so I have
>come to realize that Christianity
>is not an evil. Partly
>do to some of the
>first real conversations that I
>had with cats on the
>topic when I was at
>Morehouse. I see it as
>just another religion. But it's
>the only one I know
>of seeking to convert the
>globe.
>
>Yes I do believe in evolution.
>But that's faith too, because
>fossil records aren't facts, they
>have top be interpreted. And
>no one can explain exactly
>how things evolve, only that
>they do.

Responce: It takes more faith to beleive in Evolution than it does to believe in creation.

I don't belive
>in sin because I don't
>belive in good or evil-
>in the abstract. These concepts
>only exist in relation to
>the capacity that we have
>to define them as such.
>I don't think human beings
>were specifically chosen to exist,
>we just do (again only
>to the degree to which
>we can define existence).

Responce: Yes, sin does exist but we can debate this later if you choose. And in this day and age evolution is on the ropes. from a Biological, Chemical, and logical God has revealed himself to the world.
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