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12560, RE: Would you live anywhere else?
Posted by mamazgun, Fri Jul-06-01 02:56 PM
This
>baffles my mind! To
>the people who wish to
>stay in America and "make
>things better here." Sorry
>to say this, but that
>is never going to happen!
> I'm not a pessimist,
>I am a realist.
>The structure of this country
>never had any intention of
>allowing non-whites to reach any
>sort of real success, and
>by success I don't mean
>cars, clothes and a house
>in the hamptons.

so what do you mean by success? it's all relative - and relative to the capitalistic global society that we are currently residing in, success is measured in exactly those terms. it's up to you to define the terms of your success for your self but for people living in modern societies that have set the standard for success as having more of everything, how else is "real success" measured? you said you were a realist - I beg to differ.

>I
>don't want Blacks to be
>fooled into thinking that we
>are making progress, when actually,
>we are digressing!
> Do you really think
>that you will ever be
>accepted by whites? No!
> You won't.

question: do we have to be accepted by whites for us to acknowledge our worth as human beings. excuse me but fuck anybody, black, white, red, blue, I don't care who - who tells me that I need their acceptance before I can be deemed worthy as a human being and an individual. that's not an issue and it shouldn't be. we don't need to walk around demanding to be accepted. we need to focus on more pressing issues.

>Why would
>you want to stay in
>a country that has ruined
>you in so many ways
>physicall and mentally? If
>the ideals and fundamental of
>the constitution are really all
>that wonderful, then is the
>predicament of Blacks in America
>so fucked up now?

because it is more within my power to "fix" my "ruined" self in this country than it is in some parts of the world. I'm not sure I understand your last sentence.

>If change is really what
>you desire, then learn all
>you can about your heritage,
>things that they will NEVER
>teach you in any American
>school. And then you
>won't want to stay.
>This country has been almost
>totally stripped of all its
>natural goods and resources.
>They want you to stay!
> There's nothing left to
>be gained here. Do
>you know where they are
>going next? Guess.
>The continent with the most
>untapped resources in the world!
> Africa! They will
>go to YOUR motherland and
>use up her resources, while
>we stay our black asses
>right over here in America.
> Does that sound right?
>

um. . . but didn't they do that already?? I think that's why they left eventually. they took what they wanted and left the scraps to the natives.

>
>And to those who wish to
>move to Italy, England, Spain,
>wherever. Stop thinking that
>anything European is where its
>at!! Do you really
>think that moving to one
>of these countries is going
>to make the situation better
>for you? You will
>still be black. And
>don't be fooled into thinking
>that racism was eradicated in
>those countries. It still
>exists! The only continent
>that will ever embrace you
>, that will ever love
>you is Africa, your home.
> Yes, there are problems
>in Africa, but who did
>they stem from?? Europeans!
> South Africans didn't implement
>apartheid BY THEMSELVES! It
>was put into effect by
>the British. But you
>want to go to England??
> The situation in Rwanda,
>between the Hotu and
>the Tutsi. That rivalry
>was ENGINEERED years before we
>even knew about it.
>Engineered by who? The
>Europeans who came in the
>colonial era. Divide and conquer,
>its been a way of
>life for them for centuries,
>their best war tactic. There
>is shit that has been
>done to Africans in the
>diaspora that we don't even
>know about!

and that's the God's honest truth. so now what?

>
>I said all that to say,
>that yes, I think that
>Africans in the diaspora, if
>they desire to leave
>their oppressive countries should make
>that move back to the
>motherland. The continent awaits
>us. It wants us
>to return and save it
>from being raped and pillaged
>by Europeans. But that
>will never happen if Blacks
>keep thinking that there is
>nothing for them in Africa.
> Everything is there for
>you in AFrica! Because
>it is your home.
>

that's really easy for you to say. the only raping and pillaging going on in Africa as far as I know is being done by the Africans themselves. And sorry to gray your blue skies but it's going to take millenias before Africa returns to its former glory. In the meantime, the fortunate who can make their way out of the beloved "dark continent" will continue to do so.