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1279, RE: You're really funny, Thomas. Posted by HoChiGrimm, Sun Jun-13-04 02:00 PM
>- over 700 Cubans are there of all fascets.
Yes there were and again, it was determined that only 40 were military personel. Hardly a reason to use illegal military force against an island that prod- uces nutmeg.
>- Weapon caches, of Soviet design, were stashed by the >thousands.
Firt of all, the numbers were exagerated, as I pointed out using a valid source. With that said, Bishop had made sev- eral attempts to establish good relations with the U.S. and even advocated free enterprise, to no avail
Governments have a right to est- ablish relations with any nation they choose, Grenada is no excep- tion. Hell, Reagan did it with some of the most brutal regimes known to humanity.
Morerover, you have still failed to establish proof for an invasion of the island, so let's continue.
>- They are constructing an airport.
Yes they were, Thomas, what's your point? Actually tourists were freq- uently taken to the construction site at the airport-a widely publi- cized symbol of Grenadian pride. US students from St. George's Med- ical school jogged by Cuban and Grenadian construction workers each day on the airstrip. The main finan- cial support for the airport came not from the U.S.S.R. nor from Cuba, but from Margaret Thatcher's Britain.
>- Radio Grenada was reported to be espousing communist >rhetoric and was hostile to towards the U.S.
>- There were Soviets and Eastern Europeans found on the >island.
You really are a moron with a low IQ. What the hell are you trying to say. Because Soviets and Eastern Europeans were "FOUND" (yeah, I'm sure), this was a reason to break international law. Fuck outta here, especially from someone who claims to admire libartarian ideals. LOL!
>- Bishop and Castro did meet and extend trade relations >amongst the two countries.
Well, duh! He also established trade with a number of non-Eastern block countries. Bahahahahahaaa! You're laughable. Still no proof offered for an invasion of another nation.
>Yet, Castro has no interest in turning Grenada into a >Marxist nation, despite investing so many resources into the >country.
Son (gotta call you that cause you're obviously young and naive), Cuba -- since you're unaware -- has invested "resources" in a plethora the Developing Nations which anyone with a modicum of common sence would realize were not ripe for a "Marxist" revoltuion. They just invested "resources" in Haiti and I don't see any Leninist guerillas roaming about in Port-au-Prince.
Again, what are some logical reasons for a U.S. invasion? NONE.
>I mean, what is there to prove?
You keep dwelling on a point that I never raised, one dealing with Castro. I simply asked you to provide an ample reason for an invasion condemned by your girl Thatcher herself and you've offered nothing. Absolutely nothing.
>The simple fact is that you know as well as I do that Castro >and Bishop's regime were doing all it could to establish >strong relations.
And that, young man, is a moot point simply because every moron from Timbuktu to Kalamazoo knew that Bishop and Castro had an affinity for one another (NO HOMO). Castro even referred to Bishop as being like a son to him.
This is what you want me to admit???
I clearly stated to you that Cubans were working on the island, and the NJM was developing a relationship with Cuba. Stop dancing around the issue at hand.
>The regime was partially funded and supported by Castro and >had already received weapons and equipment. Castro had >invested a considerable amount of resources into that >country, and over 700 Cubans were on the island when U.S. >Forces invaded.
Duh! You're shittin me, right?
This is something I refuse to disagree with simply because I previously pointed this out. Ha!
And props to you for underscoring the fact that Castro "PARTIALLY" funded the airport because in actually, Britian was providing most of the funds -- WITH THATCHER'S approval.
>Bishop and his supporters within the regime was assassinated >in a coup that killed over 100 people. There was a curfew >placed on that island where if anyone came out of their >homes they would be shot.
You need to read and comprehend better because it is well understood even by your boys on the right that the students were never in danger and the government went out of it's way to ensure their saftey.
Now, does this mean the students weren't fearing for their lives? I would venture to say that some were, which explain thie "kissing the ground" incident. Oh, and I knew you try and use that to prove some moot point. You're too preditable.
There's a qualitative difference between actually being in danger and perceiving as though you are in danger.
Further, the link you posted doesn't work. Nice try.
In a nutshell, you've offered as much proof for an invasion as Reagan did and like Reagan, you're waffling. Do you believe the invasion was justified because of the med. students, or the airport construction, or a Cuban/Soviet presence?
WHICH RATIONALE IS IT, WENDEL?
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