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1279, RE: You're really funny, Thomas.
Posted by HoChiGrimm, Sun Jun-13-04 02:00 PM
>- over 700 Cubans are there of all fascets.

Yes there were and again, it
was determined that only 40
were military personel. Hardly
a reason to use illegal military
force against an island that prod-
uces nutmeg.

>- Weapon caches, of Soviet design, were stashed by the
>thousands.

Firt of all, the numbers
were exagerated, as I pointed
out using a valid source. With
that said, Bishop had made sev-
eral attempts to establish good
relations with the U.S. and
even advocated free enterprise,
to no avail

Governments have a right to est-
ablish relations with any nation
they choose, Grenada is no excep-
tion. Hell, Reagan did it with
some of the most brutal regimes
known to humanity.

Morerover, you have still failed
to establish proof for an invasion
of the island, so let's continue.

>- They are constructing an airport.

Yes they were, Thomas, what's your
point? Actually tourists were freq-
uently taken to the construction
site at the airport-a widely publi-
cized symbol of Grenadian pride.
US students from St. George's Med-
ical school jogged by Cuban and
Grenadian construction workers each
day on the airstrip. The main finan-
cial support for the airport came not
from the U.S.S.R. nor from Cuba, but
from Margaret Thatcher's Britain.

>- Radio Grenada was reported to be espousing communist
>rhetoric and was hostile to towards the U.S.

>- There were Soviets and Eastern Europeans found on the
>island.

You really are a moron with a low
IQ. What the hell are you trying to
say. Because Soviets and Eastern
Europeans were "FOUND" (yeah, I'm
sure), this was a reason to break
international law. Fuck outta here,
especially from someone who claims
to admire libartarian ideals. LOL!

>- Bishop and Castro did meet and extend trade relations
>amongst the two countries.

Well, duh! He also established trade
with a number of non-Eastern block
countries. Bahahahahahaaa! You're
laughable. Still no proof offered
for an invasion of another nation.

>Yet, Castro has no interest in turning Grenada into a
>Marxist nation, despite investing so many resources into the
>country.

Son (gotta call you that cause you're
obviously young and naive), Cuba --
since you're unaware -- has invested
"resources" in a plethora the Developing
Nations which anyone with a modicum of
common sence would realize were not ripe
for a "Marxist" revoltuion. They just
invested "resources" in Haiti and I don't
see any Leninist guerillas roaming about
in Port-au-Prince.

Again, what are some logical reasons for a
U.S. invasion? NONE.

>I mean, what is there to prove?

You keep dwelling on a point that
I never raised, one dealing with
Castro. I simply asked you to
provide an ample reason for an
invasion condemned by your girl
Thatcher herself and you've offered
nothing. Absolutely nothing.

>The simple fact is that you know as well as I do that Castro
>and Bishop's regime were doing all it could to establish
>strong relations.

And that, young man, is a moot
point simply because every moron
from Timbuktu to Kalamazoo knew
that Bishop and Castro had an
affinity for one another (NO HOMO).
Castro even referred to Bishop as
being like a son to him.

This is what you want me to admit???

I clearly stated to you that Cubans
were working on the island, and the
NJM was developing a relationship
with Cuba. Stop dancing around the
issue at hand.

>The regime was partially funded and supported by Castro and
>had already received weapons and equipment. Castro had
>invested a considerable amount of resources into that
>country, and over 700 Cubans were on the island when U.S.
>Forces invaded.

Duh! You're shittin me, right?

This is something I refuse to
disagree with simply because
I previously pointed this out.
Ha!

And props to you for underscoring
the fact that Castro "PARTIALLY"
funded the airport because in
actually, Britian was providing
most of the funds -- WITH THATCHER'S
approval.

>Bishop and his supporters within the regime was assassinated
>in a coup that killed over 100 people. There was a curfew
>placed on that island where if anyone came out of their
>homes they would be shot.

You need to read and comprehend
better because it is well understood
even by your boys on the right that
the students were never in danger
and the government went out of it's
way to ensure their saftey.

Now, does this mean the students weren't
fearing for their lives? I would venture
to say that some were, which explain
thie "kissing the ground" incident. Oh,
and I knew you try and use that to prove
some moot point. You're too preditable.

There's a qualitative difference between
actually being in danger and perceiving
as though you are in danger.

Further, the link you posted doesn't work.
Nice try.

In a nutshell, you've offered as much
proof for an invasion as Reagan did
and like Reagan, you're waffling. Do
you believe the invasion was justified
because of the med. students, or the
airport construction, or a Cuban/Soviet
presence?

WHICH RATIONALE IS IT, WENDEL?