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utamaroho asks me about ramadan......

"correct any incorrect information, but...
don't you only eat (feast) after the sun goes down right before bed...isn't that like the worst kind of eating time, and why is it called fasting? you still eat, and at night?!?

try a 42 day no solid anything juice fast...that's a fast, and a healthy one too."

and my answer: http://www.okayplayer.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3356&forum=DCForumID1&archive=yes#19

">and why is it called
>fasting? you still eat, and
>at night?!?

the definition of the fast is set by Allah, not us. that is all that he requires of us. the main thing is to do without and abstain, like others who are not fortunate to even eat at all. putting self in the shoes of those less fortunate has grounding effects of the one who fasts correctly.

(this is the PERTINENT PART BELOW)

and its not just a fast from food and drink, but also from sins (not perfect), marrital sexual relations, vain talk, anything that is not useful, etc..........."

did he or did he not ask me w/o "non-islamic" thinking?

what he sees as a fast and what i see as a fast are two diff. things, and he came at me THE WAY HE UNDERSTOOD FAST IS, NOT THE WAY A FAST IS IN ISLAM.

did i cut him up for coming at me like that?
or did i see that he didnt understand, and then attempt to give him some understanding?

and his reply: http://www.okayplayer.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3356&forum=DCForumID1&archive=yes#20

"thanks a lot

>>and its not just a fast from food and drink, but also from sins (not perfect), marrital sexual relations, vain talk, anything that is not useful, etc...........
hmmmmmmm...

anyways, i just got a burst of enlightenment upon reading this response."

END OF QUOTE.

>who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu
>'alaihi wa sallam (peace be
>upon him)? click here to
>read his biography entitled, "Ar-Raheeq
>Al-Makhtum" (The Sealed Nectar) :
>
>http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/
>
>Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
>The Prophet used to offer prayer
>at night (for such a
>long time) that his feet
>used to crack. I said,
>"O Allah's Apostle! Why do
>you do it since Allah
>has forgiven you your faults
>of the past and those
>to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't
>I love to be a
>thankful slave (of Allah)?' When
>he became old, he prayed
>while sitting, but if he
>wanted to perform a bowing,
>he wound get up, recite
>(some other verses) and then
>perform the bowing.
>
>subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh
>Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise
>You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa
>anta (I bear witness that
>none has the right to
>be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka
>(I seek Your forgiveness), wa
>attuubu ilaika (and I turn
>to You in Repentance).


who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography entitled, "Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum" (The Sealed Nectar) :
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).