11905, RE: next question Posted by guest, Fri May-19-00 07:40 AM
has that >relationship ever been in balance >when the two were combined >in one land, in one >space?
Once upon a time- a long long long time ago. Peace between Europeans and africans on a large or national scale hasnt been visited since the times o Egypt- where Africa was respected as the fertile crescent. Greeks and other scholars migrated there for the purpose of study.
I think it was imperialism, colonialism and religious crusade that marred what could have ben a great relationship.
>i don't quite understand this because >i thought we wre trying >NOT to live in oprressive >circumstances rather than just exist >civily in oppressive circumstances. >i know we can do >this (the latter), but when >existing in circumstance means repressing >full expression of your culture >to the only place where >it can exist w/ out >being attacked (the soul, the >spirit), then i don't think >that is healthy. whatever >your culture is. maybe >i am not getting what >you are tryna say.
What Im saying opporessive circumstances are a natural state of human life. if it is not the system governement there are still issues of health and welfare that will prevail human life. Civility and cultural respect are the key o overcoming adversity not simply because they represent anything inherently good about people but because culture and tradition evoke a natural history of human development. In realizing that which your people have struggled through you are more capable of overcoming new struggles. By acting civilly the people can come together and share the wisdom brought forth by their various heritages.
>>If we couldnt- there would be no use- what we have currently is a great number of people who are not willing to try. > >at the same time there are >a great number of people >who ARE willing to try >and live civily as long >as full expression of culture, >true teaching of history/religion...remains in >the past. it's like >let's start from where we >are now, remember history only >in terms of the past. > never link it to >today in a way that >would make people see and >deal w/ each other a >different level w/ a different >understanding. i don't think >people (and i mean black >and white) really want to >go through this process. >and yes, i am jumpin >out there to make that >generalization.
The problem with proceeding in that fashion is that starting from now would leave all people but whites at a disadvantage. We're not happy with the current state of affairs and we demand that the world understand that our current situation is primarily borne up from the crimes of history. If we started from this point on- Blacks will still be slighted as we have been from the very beginnings of this country.
if we start from here that means we must be happy to be falsely imprisoned, set up, or maybe even killed- none of us are willing to accept those circumstances.
K
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