>This bible has been DIRECTLY translated
>from the original Greek, Hebrew
>and Aramaic. That's why I
>bought it. It tells you
>where the Greek added &
>the Hebrew omitted and vice
>versa. It also does not
>translate terms like "El Shaddai"
>into "Almighty God" & states
>where things have been glossed
>or are unclear.


Okay, but what your book says are still mistranslations and in one instance blaspheme...


>
>Granted. But a lot of that
>"flow", may be poetic license
>as well.

yes but poetic or not, the simple fact is if you tamper with it, people will know...


Makes it sound
>good, but isn't necessarily a
>reliable historical document. Error is
>inherent in anything human.


yes I agree here, like I said the pointis not thatits flow makes it historical but that its flow disallows anyone to tamper with it...

But
>when you compare the bible
>& other religious texts to
>specific histories of lands &
>peoples, it doesn't always pan
>out.

this is incorrect, I have already proven that this is not entirely true...please read...

>>>>Thutmose I(1525-1512 BC) a professional soldier
>>>>put egypt ona war footing
>>>>and launched invasions as far
>>>>as the euphrates river- he
>>>>feared Israelite disloyalty, we know
>>>>this from egyptian inscriptions stating
>>>>“when a war shall be
>>>>called, they(israelites) shall join our
>>>>enemies” and ordered therefore the
>>>>killing of all new born
>>>>israelite male babies…supported by bothe
>>>>exodus 1: 9-16) and the inscriptions
>>>>of Thutmose I himself…
>
>The note mentions Rameses II (1290-1224)
>& claims he is the
>nameless Pharaoh. So far I
>have seen no mention of
>Thutmose or his rule at
>the time all this may
>have been going on. Could
>there be two separate traditions,
>as the other note said?
>One around Rameses' time and
>the other at Thutmose's, as
>you stated?


Yes it's possible, but the story in exodus is speakin specifically of the one during teh reaignof thutmose I II and III, thut I's daughter Hatshepsut, and Amenophis II...

As you can see this was an era of time, not merely the reignof one pharoah but the reignof several different pharoahs

>it's just a statement to give
>some clarity to the cultural
>attitudes of the time. nothing
>personal. and, as others have
>said, the term "shepherd people"
>used in the Bible most
>likely refers to the Hyksos
>who ruled Egypt for a
>time.


Actually, as have been proven, the term sheperd people refers to the Hebrews, teh hebrews carted in their sheep and flocks, teh hebrews were sheperds, they tended flock there is evidence of this throughout exodus and genesis as well, if has already been stated that these same Hyskos were aided by hebrews...please read...

>apparently you agree with what the
>note says. so would you
>also agree that the writing
>of the scriptures may have
>been colored by this feeling
>and, as such, took some
>historical license when dealing w/
>their "oppression" in Egypt? Could
>that be why there are
>no historical records, as such,
>of this mass enslavement?
>

Actually as I have proven in my previous posts there are...please read



>And, again, it was the Hebrew
>PERCEPTION that they were not
>"free". According to the
>Egyptians, they may have been,
>hence, the lack of records...

Yes and it is our interpretation here that we are free. AS well, there are records and slabs found that state otherwise...




>Again, this particular Bible isn't going
>off of "millenium" scholars, but
>a direct translation.


No the trnaslation may not be off of millenium scholars yet teh footnotes are of millenium scholars, you are telling me about their interpretaions and thei interpretations are of a modernized ignorant view...

>But, as I said, I have
>a lot more research/reading to
>do. I'm not really arguing
>any of these points, just
>offering a differing point of
>view.


Okay, I have a list of references which after I am done addressing you and solarus I will post, of records taht you can read, most of them include pictures of ancient maps, and slabs as well as one inparticular includes a reference to teh sumerian dictionary that was founded with its translations and such...


>again, I didn't write these notes.
>But it seems that if
>Thutmose had something to do
>w/ this, his name would
>be somewhere & so far
>it isn't.

None of the names of kings were mentioned unless they spoke of battles...that is something that only a person who understands hebrew history and culture would know...check the tanach you will see...

>
>Have any pictures? Sources that might
>have pictures of this inscription?
>Or do you know which
>monument it was on? What
>document?

yes I have a list of references that you can check and books you can look at or buy...


>You're getting opinionated again....that's not the
>issue.

yes it is the issue, first you give me a statement based on someone's opinion not on their research and teh statement is even of someone else's opinion, so I give you an answer based on opinion moreso common sense...

think...if a people are being enslaved by people who are supposed to be benevolent, do you think that these people would rush to discus it that way...as such I even give you historical proof of human behavior rooted here in teh egypt of the west, yet you call my observation an opinion...

Wake up and see for yourself, the patterns of people not white or black, but people on a whole...and then ask yourself what is more likely true, and tehn after you do that, check my list of references by books, read ...

teh cheapest of all my books is Zecharia Sitchin...why do you all still refuse to do the neccesary research...it's like you are intent on holding an opinion which has been proven by world scholars to be wrong...not simply by their opinion but by their first hand findings of archaeological evidence....


>And again, everyone is asking, "where
>are the Egyptian records"??? Even
>if I give you the
>benefit of the doubt w/
>Thutmose w/ the killing of
>the first borns, that STILL
>doesn't explain why there are
>NO records of this mass
>enslavement.


>We KNOW thousands of Africans were
>slaves. We have slave ship
>records and depictions, bills of
>sale. Wills. Advertisements for runaways.
>We have pamphlets like "How
>to Make a Slave" and
>the writings of Thomas Jefferson
>and others calling Blacks less
>than human, inferior, etc.
>

Yes but this is of the very recent history, think, we are speaking of over 5000 years ago, do you really think that you can find a record for every event of the past that took place over 5000 years ago...and besides that...there is proof...please read...

>
>Records speak for themselves.
>
>Where there are no records, there
>is only speculation...

Yes they do, please see my list of references on where you can find tehse records...