>"...He tries to hide behind the
>banner of Islam but he
>is very uneducated as to
>what Islam is OR he
>is IGNORING the laws of
>Islam which qualifies him as
>a Tyrant or a Munafiq(
>a Hypocrite)..."- Sudani speaking on
>Bin Laden
>
>
>Ignoring laws of Islam would make
>him a munafiq at most
>and a tyrant in the
>least...

muslims ignore islamic laws all the time, but that dont make them nonmuslims or hypocrites. maybe hypocritical, but not a hypocrite. a muslim can do a kufr act, but that doesnt make him a kaafir.

btw, the description in those verse sound more like the leaders of our so called islamic states, more so than it does bin laden. but whats just my opinion.

>-----------------
>
>The reality is that action is
>judged by intention and in
>reality, only Allah and our
>own selves know what we
>intend when doing a deed,
>we can fool ourselves into
>thinking that we are doing
>something good...but our hearts know
>the real.

and on that note, we can conclude that we dont really know what bin ladens intentions are. ppl can say one thing, and can mean something else. but we are not Allah to know. our messanger (saws) has given us signs of a hypocrite in the hadith, and thats all we can go by. b/c hypocrisy is not a thing easily known.

>With that said...I hope that Bin
>Ladens full agenda is not
>to fund the killing of
>innocent people or support the
>suicide of a muslim, both
>of which are severly UNISLAMIC.

i hope it isnt either. as i told m2 though, unislamic doesnot = not muslim.
th muslim adulterer, alcohol drinker, weed smoker, eve murderer is still a muslim. unislamic, yes. not muslim, no.

>When judging between two subjects,
>Allah will choose he/those who
>are more just regardless of
>the religion they may claim.

even if they dont believe in Him?

>I do not play patriot
>games, I just want whoever
>is guilty to be dealt
>with.
>
we all want the same thing, which is justice. to punish the perpetratiors of that henious crime.
and although you didnt say this:
handing over bin laden, for near proof, to be tried at a later date, when more proof is collected, is not justice.

you know how the islamic law system works, and what Allah asks for (proof, witnesses) before even making an accusation on anyone. and He is Ahkam Al Haakimeen- The Best of those Who Judge, and His Law is The Best Law, and that is the law we should judge by (see Qur'aan quote below). so how about the man made law? how does it stand up to Allah's Law?

>was salaam,
>
>Sudani
>
was salaam.

Words to ponder over............

5.44. It was We who revealed the Torah (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islám) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are unbelievers.

5.81. If only they had believed in Allah, in the Prophet, and in what hath been revealed to him, never would they have taken them for friends and protectors, but most of them are rebellious wrong-doers.

the biography of Prophet Muhammad (saws):
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

The following is paraphrased from today's (10/08/2001) interview with Rumsfeld via sattelite hookup on CBS news this morning:

Gumbel: Can you assess the damages from last nights bombing raids in Kabul?
Rumsfeld: Its too early for any clear assessment

Gumbel: There are reports from the Taliban that there were collateral damages in the forms of Women, children, and elderly, can you confirm or deny these reports

Rumsfeld: There were no civilian casualties, these were all military targets

Gumbel: I thought you said it was too early for any assessment of the raids

Rumsfeld (now squirming in seat): Uhhhhh...ummmmmm.....welllll...i am 'reasonably' sure what I just said was correct

courtesy of abbstrack

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa atuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).