>- would it be far fetched to say that the bulk of african
>americans have embraced american individualism? lets not play
>around here, most black folks have an "i got mines get yours"
>mentallity. this mentallity isnt exclusive to "black
>conservatives." people like to shit on republicans for being
>greedy and not caring about the "little" guy, but go into the
>ghettoes and inner cities all over this country. black folks
>walk around with phat farm, nike, big rims on their SUV's, 200
>dollar sneakers, we've got the flat screen TV's, we've got the
>state of the art DVD/Mp3 players, we have the resources to
>help one another out, but we don't do this. in fact, we
>ridicule other black folks that are too poor to afford these
>things (which is why so many black men sell drugs to buy shit,
>not to eat)!!

no doubt.


...cmon now, let's cut the act that we are this
>down trodden group of people that have nothing and that we
>rely soley on one another to keep going in america, and that
>black conservatives are the "bad guys"....

Despite all that we do have, we still have no wealth. I don't think most of us even understand what wealth is, let alone how to use it for our collective advantage.

>- are you sure about that? you and I might know this but i
>dont believe your average black person believes this.

I think the average Black person knows they can succeed. The "racism holds us down" argument is more rhetoric that has been passed down though the generations than anything else, we've yet to re-examine that claim in light of current situations. But there are too many who still actually belive they can't succeed thorugh tradional means, by this I mean the kid that grows up in the hood with few role models thinks he can make it as an entertainer, but has no beleief that he can make in the "white" world.


>- I agree with what you are saying but to solely say that
>black conservatives are the only people guilty of this in our
>community is just short of comedy.

Most black people beleive this. I'm hard on Black Conservatives on this issue because, if they would embrace the principle of collective economic action, it could represent a regaining of what we lost after the civil rights movement.

>- NO! my point is that we KNOW the message. we KNOW what black
>conservatives are saying is true because we ALL talk like this
>in the privacy of our own homes...but to publicly acknowledge
>these things as TRUTHS and then go from there = embracing the
>message. when I say that the black community doesnt embrace
>the message, I'm saying that we need to start building our
>strategy around that message and ideology,

Ok, I see what you're saying.

and that won't
>happen in 6 million years.

i think it will.

>>Send me that article though, I vaguely remeber hearing
>someing
>>about that.
>
>http://www.racematters.org/mcwhorter.htm

Good shit, thanks.


>- I cant say i've listened to the show as often as I like but
>under his archives u can see the types of guests he has on
>there...I know he had maxine waters on there and she hung up
>on him when it got too hot. just listen to some of his
>archived shows. he brings some TOUGH QUESTIONS to these
>people.
>
>http://www.soundwaves2000.com/peterson/insert/

i'll have to bookmark this and go though some of it when I get time

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