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12940, no contradictions in the Qur'an...................
Posted by abduhu, Thu Jun-14-01 09:01 AM
>Not trying to be funny
>but make sure you can
>back what your saying about
>the Qur'an because I can
>find contridiction in the Qur'an
>heres a couple to warm
>you up. Six or eight
>days of creation. Sura 7:54,10:3,11:7
>and 25:59 say God created
>the earth in six days
>while 41:9-12 the detailed description
>add up to eight days.

here is the verse from surah 25- The Criterion:
59. He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between, in six days, and is firmly established on the Throne (of Authority): Allah Most Gracious: ask thou, then, about Him of any acquainted (with such things).

and here are the verses from surah 41- Ha-Mim:
9. Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two Days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.
10. He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measure therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in four Days, in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).
11. Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."
12. So He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.


ok. from reading the above verses, you will see that there is no contradiction.
why?
verse 9. says that the creation of earth WAS CREATED in two days. meaning COMPLETED.
verse 10. says that the earth WAS BEING CREATED. Allah says "He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm", and as such, HOW can the WHOLE EARTH be CREATED in ENTIRETY if He is "setting firm standing mountains" on it? that would mean it was INCOMPLETE at that time.
verse 10. also says that He CREATED and BLESSED the earth, and MEASURED its sustenence in FOUR DAYS. it doesnot say WHAT and WHICH He did in HOW MUCH time. so within those FOUR DAYS, the earth was completed in TWO.
verse 12. SAYS that He COMPLETED the sky as SEVEN HEAVENS in TWO DAYS.

so to sum it all up,........
4 DAYS (including the TWO of which the earth was CREATED IN )to "set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measure therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion. (41:10)"

+

2 DAYS in which "He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days (41:12)"

=

6 DAYS in which "He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between (25:59)" COMPLETED THEM.


>One more is Sura 21:76
>Noah and his family are
>save in the flood Sura
>11: 42-43 reports that Noahs
>sons drowned. Heres something for
>you to wrestle with good
>luck.

The son of Nuh (Alaihis Salaam)

There is a very significant issue to take note of at this point. At the time of the flood, Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) interceded on his son's behalf for his rescue but Allah prohibited him from doing so. The importance of this incident arises from the following verses of the Holy Quran:

"Nuh (Aaihis Salaam) addressed his Lord and said: "O my Lord, indeed my son is of my family and your promise is true. You are the most just of all sovereigns." Allah replied: "O Nuh, he is not of your family. His deed is incorrect. Therefore do not ask me that of which you have no knowledge. I advise you, lest you become of the ignorant."

He (Nuh Alaihis Salaam) said: "O my Lord, I seek refuge in you from that of which I have no knowledge. I will become of the losers if you do not forgive me and have mercy on me." It was said: "O Nuh, alight with peace from us and blessings upon you and those who are with you." (11:45-48)

It can be deduced from these verses that Allah Ta'ala had promised Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) that he would save his family. It is for this reason that Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) made dua for his son. Allah Ta'ala reprimanded him from making such a dua. Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) admitted his fault and requested for forgiveness and mercy. He received an answer according to his wish.

Now we have to establish on which promise did Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) make the request and was this promise fulfilled or not. What kind of error did Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) commit in understanding the promise and upon the reprimand of Allah, how did he comprehend the actual matter? One has to ponder over the following verse in order to answer these questions:

"When our command came, and the oven gushed forth, We said: "Carry a pair of every living animal and your family onto the ark except those against whom the command has been issued. (And carry) those who have believed." Very few believed (in Allah) with him. (11:40)

This verse indicates that Allah Ta'ala had informed Nuh (Alaihis salaam) that he should make his family embark the ark and that all of them were not going to be saved because Allah's punishment had already been decreed for some. Nuh (Alaihis salaam) had earlier lost hope in his wife embracing the faith because of her kufr beliefs and regarded her to be the touchstone of the above-mentioned verse. Due to the paternal love which he harboured for his son, he expected him to board the ship and embrace the faith after benefiting from the company of the believers. Therefore Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) made dua to Allah on behalf of his son, taking advantage of the words "your family" mentioned in the verse. Allah Ta'ala did not like the deduction of Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) by analogy without waiting for divine revelation. His son was a disbeliever and would remain in this condition. The promise of rescue was only for the believers. This request was thus not in keeping with the lofty rank of prophethood. Allah's address to Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) was in reality not a reproach but a call to witness the reality to which he responded, acknowledged his being human and sought forgiveness. Hence this request was neither a sin nor does it contradict the sinlessness (ismat) of the messengers. Therefore divine revelation has termed it ignorance rather than sin or disobedience.

Nonetheless it became apparent to Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) that the promise of rescue was based on Iman and not family relations. Therefore he turned to his son in order to fulfil his task of dawah so that he could also be saved. Alas, the wretched son answered:

"I will seek refuge on a mountain which will protect me from the water." (11:43)

Upon hearing this, Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) said:

"Today there is no protector from the command of Allah except the one whom He has mercy on." A wave intervened and he was drowned. (11:43)

and this is what is meant in the surah 21:76 as well, as far as the "family" that was saved.

so there are no contradictions in the qur'an.


subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).