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85009, I'm not saying Sing can't change
Posted by OldPro, Mon Nov-23-09 07:42 PM
>so with that said, i hear you on the stubborn tip. but i think
>the fire and brimstone shit has been overplayed ridiculously.
>it is frustrating to see them show less discipline than you'd
>imagine a team under him to have. clock management, stupid
>penalties, things that need addressing. now re: offensive
>philosophies, that explosive shit with jt osullivan was giving
>the ball away early and often and i'm sure sing saw that and
>was like whoaaaa, we are NOT those guys who can do that. but
>coming into the season, it was the right move to go with the
>guy who was winning, since despite all the problems, hill
>managed to do just that, unlike smith, osullivan and all the
>rest of dem.

Just that it's disturbing how slow he is to seeing what most everyone saw weeks ago. It's not just Smith that's looked better in the spread ... pretty much the whole team has. Even Rod Brooks said as much on his show today. I understand the whole winning thing with Hill, but if you remember back to the start of the year I said I thought it was only a matter of time before his limitations were exposed... or have we all forgotten the Atlanta & Houston games? Our defense isn't nearly good enough to win with just a game manager at QB. Besides I don't think we should even think about settling for a game manager when the potential to be genuinely explosive is there. JTO throwing to an aging Issac Bruce is just a world away from Smith to Crabtree and the new improved VD (something I do give Sing credit for)

>now with smith, we're all kind of like whetting our appetites
>to see if he can do that shit for a whole game and not just
>when trailing. our defense is still very very good, but too
>much of the burden is being placed on them. if this offense
>was even half as productive as it has appeared in flashes, the
>defense would look even more impressive. but three and outs is
>a hard way to live.

Again I don't see our defense as being nearly as good as you do. We need a playmaker on both the D line and at Safety before I'll say they are very, very good. We're not far away but finding two impact players at those spots aren't going to be easy either. To your point of the offense appearing productive in flashes ... well that's kinda the whole beef I have with Raye. Unless you believe the whole offense just turns on and off at the same time, it's clear the problem is play calling.

>i c u profiling and nailing raye, and i'm not trying to tell
>you about what you mean by what you're saying, but it *sounds*
>to me like you're more done with raye than sing, but faulting
>sing for getting him in the first place. am i correct?

correct.

>with that said, i'm nowhere near as done as you are with the
>coaching staff. it is still just his first year as head coach
>of HIS team. we can call it stubborn pride, but if you spend
>all offseason trying to ingrain one philosophy and the team
>seems to embody another, it does take a bit of reflection and
>analysis. one can overthink or overanalyze it, look at the
>positives in the offense as a result of this that or the other
>rather than just the fact that they're more suited to the
>spread than a ball control formula.
>
>the thing is, he's big on VD, big on crabs, still a big
>supporter of smith, all players who have shown explosiveness.
>i'd analogize him to the dad who needs a bit of convincing
>before he'll finally let his youngest son get the keys to the
>car, after seeing his older sons get killed or injured in
>accidents. i could be wrong, but i think he's going to try to
>turn the keys over to smith and let her rip, despite the fears
>he has from all the shit that that pass happy offense with the
>WRONG personnel produced last year.

Time will tell

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