Since it doesn't seem we will be having a mock draft this year we might as well have a post to discuss the upcoming 2011 NFL Draft. I don't know about you but I am not excited about this draft at all. I suppose that has to do with the lockout and the fact that we might not have a season this year, so we might not even see any of these rookies make their debut for a while. Even if we have a shortened season, you have to believe a lot of these rookies aren't going to play because they will have missed so much practice time that they won't see the field.

Anyways, let's discuss who you are "buying/selling", biggest bust potential/sleeper, who you want to see your team draft, what your team needs are, how many times the Pats will trade out for more picks in next years draft, Mel Kipers hair, etc.

I would like them to trade down to get more picks. But without a CBA, I don't see that happening.

It is looking like Cam Newton right now. Patrick Peterson would be nice since we could lose Richard Marshall in a few years.

Don't know if I trust Nick Fairley or Bowers...but Darius looks pretty good...

every year fans say the first team picking should trade down...but you need somebody else to trade with. only if Luck was in this draft would it have been an option.

It seems like Luck would have been it this year... but I'm trying to remember if there was anyone recently that people were saying "hands down, #1 pick." Like a Lebron James or Blake Griffin type player?

>It seems like Luck would have been it this year... but I'm
>trying to remember if there was anyone recently that people
>were saying "hands down, #1 pick." Like a Lebron James or
>Blake Griffin type player?

In fact, he would have gone ahead of Stafford
the year before.

His only issue was the injury, but he was a slam
dunk #1 overall QB

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after his injury and the monster season that Suh had.

Now had Bradford not been injured, he probably would have been a consensus #1 or very close to it.

Yeah... for a second, I heard talks about Suh going #1. Agreen on Bradford being the #1 QB though... it doesn't even seem close now.

He absolutely was a consensus #1

Bradford would have gone #1 overall the season
before, in fact.

Kaepernic
Von Miller

two good guys you just wanna see succeed


Jonathan Baldwin (just cause the analysts are already giving him that
T.O., "diva" WR hate. dude has great MAD-making potential)

Ryan Bartholemew OL Syracuse, beasted in the combine. had the most
reps in the bench press and the fasted 40 for O Linemen

Rodney Hudson OL from FSU, liked dude's work ethic at the combine and
the fact that he's trying to learn to play Center


I was rooting for Ponder to be that "smart" "efficient" QB,
but I didn't know dude was so goofy. he might joke too much
for his teammates to take him seriously

Draft was always a good way to close out the offseason, all or most of the team's holes are filled.

lol boy was that trade retarded.

At first it was stupid b/c the Raiders pick was gonna be a Top 5 pick

Then it was about not trading for a 30 yr old lineman with little left.

Seymour made the Pro bowl, got a little DPOY love for a sec, did the whole 'make teammates better' thing, AND socked Rapeslisberger in his grill.

Pouncey or whatever lineman at 17 would've been nice, but this season was the most fun as a Raider fan since '02. I'll take that instead of the likely size/speed merchant Al would've picked

More to come later on their needs and who I would like them to get.

everything i'm reading says harbaugh's taking a CB at the #7 spot. random Bleacher Report Hack thinks we could "steal" Patrick Peterson, but i'm guessing he'll gone by then and so it's gonna be Prince A?

i'm particularly interested in this draft 'cause obviously it's harbaugh and the new staff's first.

i'm assuming they've done their homework on whichever QB he ends up taking after the 1st round, assuming they take a CB (nate clements, the exit's thattaway --->). as an aside, i read today there's a one-year offer on the table for alex smith to come back. GTFOH.

can't sleep on a pass rusher either.

pick with our first pick, and that's QB. Any other draft pick is a good pick.

precisely because they don't know what they'll be able to do with free agency.
the significance of the draft increases

Seriously dude is a sleeper pick of the draft.

If Cam Newton doesn't go in the first 8 picks something is seriously wrong with this draft.

Andy Dalton could be one of the best three QBs in this draft.

Kapernick needs to go to the right team and get that good Tim Tebow development time.

I'm rooting for him since he's a Bay product

I think he's a solid sleeper. Adrian Foster had the best season of any back last year and he was undrafted.

either in the second round or trade into a later first rounder. I wouldn't even be upset with Locker or someone as long as we address something else with the #12.

O-Line could use some help too, although it seems like Quinn, Bowers, and even Fairley could slip to #12.

I agree with you though... I'd rather see the Vikes draft some sort of lineman in the first. I'm hoping Mallet or Dalton will still be there in the 2nd.

McKinnie is what he is and won't ever be better, and if Loadholt doesn't have LT potential, we need to look elsewhere.

They really don't have any big weaknesses besides kick coverage,and it looks like that won't be an issue anymore
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please let this happen.

going to happen, this is who I want the Chargers to take at 18.

but I would prefer for them to address the OL, specifically the RT spot. The Chargers need to get that running game going to take some of the pressure off of Rivers.

With the two picks in the 2nd round they can go defense, pick up a DE and LB.

Ideally I would like to see them fall back to the middle part of the 1st round and pick up another 2nd round pick and a 5th.

I was watching some highlight reel of his, and about 3 plays in I realize...all of these plays are against NC State...WTF...did dude play against any other team? Then Mario Williams pops in my head. Not buying this kid...

I am buying Cam Newton. I don't know the particulars of QB grading for the draft, but from an onlookers' perspective, kid's got all the tools.

Just a month ago this kids name was being kicked around as one of the top 5 picks, now he falls to the 2nd round?

"Back in January, right after Stanford QB Andrew Luck threw everyone for a loop and decided to return to school for his junior season, SI's Peter King declared that Clemson DE Da'Quan Bowers was the early front-runner to be the No. 1 overall pick. A little over three months later, Bowers will still be on the board when Round Two of the 2011 NFL Draft begins."

The offense is anemic. We need a QB and consistent WR options, not to mention more support for the O-line couldn't hurt.

The defense may be worse. I can't think of a position where we DON'T need support and/or added support.

on NFL Network's roundtable show. he went so hard frikkin Charley Casserly had to defend Fairley

Sapp's criticism: "no motor" "finesse player" "plays too high"(no leverage)

not wrong on all points, but to me, that meanness in Fairley suggests that he will be a decent pro,
and while he may not dominate an entire game, I think he might have a knack for making timely plays

can't wait for next season to start. so many kids with potential. so many kids with doubters

He'll get gobbled up in the NFL.

He'll be good, but not great

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so that I can start showering the locals with hometown pride and assholia

if Peterson slides to AZ they draft him and we draft whomever AZ wants trade him and Kolb for Peterson, but that would make too much sense, we have 100 DL on our team, we need CB, OL then LB in that order

I saw the Raiders were looking at him. So I assumed he's fast and/or throws far. Not sure if he lasts until the 2nd round though.

anybody seen him play?

>I saw the Raiders were looking at him. So I assumed he's fast
>and/or throws far. Not sure if he lasts until the 2nd round
>though.
>
>anybody seen him play?

dude is tall, fast, strong, great competitor, a hard worker--the unquestioned leader of his team. he's a good, humble kid with a heart-warming
background (was adopted as an infant)

knocks on him: came from a specialized run-heavy offense (where he, himself, ran a lot) and he has a long throwing motion. so, he faces
the same question as most college QB's--can he play the pro game?

think: Vince Young's talent without VY's issues

>I saw the Raiders were looking at him. So I assumed he's fast
>and/or throws far.

You're correct there. I liked what I saw from Kaepernick when I saw him the last two years and wondered why he didn't get more hype, but he's risen in the pre-draft process. I think he actually has pretty similar tools to Jason Campbell, plus better wheels and not having been ruined by a constant stream of offensive coordinators yet. But they're about the same build, have a bit of a windup, above average arm strength... he's pretty much a prototype Raiders-type QB.

In short, I'd like to see the Raiders nab him but I'm worried they'd ruin his career, like most QBs they drafted.

I saw him absolutely dominate Cal. However, it being college he also got away with some throws that would have been picked on the next level.

I think the kid has a lot of potential but he will be a project. He needs to go to a team where he can learn a pro style offense before being thrusted into a starting position.

i mean player for player, after the draft is over adn *whenever* FA is opened up.

i'd love to get an above avg CB for him, but i think that's asking too much. also, i'm hoping the iggles get either nnamdi or joseph to fill that spot.

i think we have *enough* D linemen, and will likely get moar since the draft is particularly deep there.

so the onliest area where i think the iggles would be ok in trading kolb for would be a standout, proven veteran LB (even though andy devalues the position), a standout, proven veteran safety (i'm against this b/c q ain't that bad and the young guys are serviceable to good, depending upon coming back from injury) and a pick in 2012.

the 2012 shit is waaaay up in the air, so that really puts the onus on getting an above average starter on defense in return for kk.

which of the qb needy teams have that to offer?

(someone said there are 14 qb needy squads. in reality, none of the jokers in this draft are ready to start on day one), but for shits and giggles lets say that there will be 10 squads between the draft and other FA qb's that need someone who can start now, that might be suitors for kolb.



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Why why why would any team picking in the top 5 take a WR???

sidenote - andre johnson needs a nickname.

though, after his fight with bitch-ass Finnegan (The Duke of Nashville) last season...he needs a new name

all this talk of miami using their 1st round pick on a QB, i just dont see it, the bottom line is i doubt Sparano will gamble in this put up or shut up year on a rookie QB. because even if he did take a ryan mallet or cam newton, another 7-9 season and he's out, he wont get the chance to develop these guys. and there's no matt ryan or sam bradford in this draft, miami might have a better shot at the playoffs ust rolling the dice with henne over these rooks and hoping he'll improve enough in his 3rd year as a starter.

i wanna see nothing but offensive skill position players this time. RBs, WRs, TE. we need SPEED, you can throw in a guard/center in the later rounds, but our 1st 2 or 3 picks need to be playmakers. if they take more than one late round defensive player i'll be pretty angry, the defense is SET, its the complete opposite of the offense, it has talent, youth and depth.

no 2nd round pick this year, we REALLY need to trade down, and i think we will like we did last year. i want mark ingram but im not sure i want to take him at 15.

last year's draft was fucken wack, hey Sparano/Ireland, this time if we go best player available, lets make sure it actually fills a need.

is it due to the labor issues?

I care about this draft, and will watch the first round with great frustration

>is it due to the labor issues?

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Ellis is getting old, and all our crazy blitzes dont mean shit if all we do is get CLOSE to sacking the QB.

whoever nabs him has a franchise star for a decade

I saw several games and he didn't dominate.

Where's the in game production?



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because von miller was arguably the most productive defensive player in the nation last year.

pretty sure he led all collegians in sacks and was literally ALL OVER the field ALL the time.

not sure the angle here, but if you really saw several TAMU games this year (not sure why you would since you're not really a big 12 head) then i can't possibly see how you're underwhelmed.

Especially if Bowers is available there.

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If he goes in the top 15 some team and their fans are going to regret it.

if we trade down.

But this team has too many holes to fix elsewhere to waste the #12 pick on a guy with his kind of question marks. Also, that Gruden's QB Camp special did him no favors.

>But this team has too many holes to fix elsewhere to waste the
>#12 pick on a guy with his kind of question marks. Also, that
>Gruden's QB Camp special did him no favors.

I cut my cable so I missed this, do you mind explaining what happened?

Gruden questioned him on a lot of those moments when he would take off running and barrel into someone instead of sliding, taking off really quickly without seemingly looking at any of his options, just the sorta Favre-ian decisions he'd make (that sometimes worked out in his favor, because he is actually a pretty gifted QB) and his answers just seemed dumb and like he put no thought into them.

I will be pissed. I would prefer we sit back with our picks and take the best available player or try to trade down in the 1st to get a few more picks but I do not want to see the Chargers trading up in the 1st.

Don't know when the shit fest that is the D-line got ignored in favor of a home-run WR, but that's the talk here.

after watching that Green Bay - Atlanta playoff game, it is clear the Falcons need defense.

WR doesn't seem like that big if a need for the Falcons, especially to have to trade up for one.

I would even say RB is a bigger priority over WR.

Jenkins is a fine #2 to White. The secondary and line still need work, then on offense they are supposedly after an explosive, small back ala Felix, and a long term project to replace Tony Gonzalez.

This came from left field and is not the Demetroff way.

after watching that GB-ATL the Falcons missed a lot of sacks (I counted 5 where Rodgers was in grasp) and offensive turnovers (including a pick 6 & INT in the endzone) did us in.


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I like Akeem Ayers and Rahim Moore as dudes (from what I know about them) but have doubts about them in the league.

Ayers has that prototype size and has great agility which gets him some highlight plays but seems like he misses that consistent mean streak you want from a backer or that extra bit of burst to finish as a pass rusher. He can make 2 or 3 plays a game that make you go "Wow!" but then he disappears for 2 quarters at a time and you wonder where the hell he is and he's getting washed out by a fullback.

Moore can cover and became a better tackler than he appears last year, but you can probably get a safety as good as him in the 4th or 5th round instead of picking him in the 2nd or so. I don't really see the appeal of picking a safety high who has pretty much one dimension.

I think David Carter can stick in the league as a 3-4 DE for a while though if someone picks him up.

Bring some fresh ones and turn your phones off.


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Cam Newton
AJ Green
Patrick Peterson
Marcell Dareus

My money is on Dareus.

Would be cool to see Peterson though

and would want to build that defense up, starting with the DL.

I could see them taking Dareus and then maybe a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round, such a Dalton from TCU in the third and if FA ever starts picking up Billy Volek as a short term starter/mentor.

Plus you know Carolina is on the cheap, you have to believe that Carolina doesn't want to pay the QB premium.

Because the kid does have talent and it's not like it's all on him the team was so bad. I think a defensive player makes more sense from a team building perspective, I just can't picture them actually passing on Cam.

>Because the kid does have talent and it's not like it's all
>on him the team was so bad. I think a defensive player makes
>more sense from a team building perspective, I just can't
>picture them actually passing on Cam.

But dude has been entitled his whole career, and
competition is good for everyone

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>>Because the kid does have talent and it's not like it's all
>>on him the team was so bad. I think a defensive player makes
>>more sense from a team building perspective, I just can't
>>picture them actually passing on Cam.
>
>But dude has been entitled his whole career, and
>competition is good for everyone

It wasn't like Carolina didn't have enough talent around him. There were 2 Pro Bowlers on that offensive line, Steve Smith, and 2 1100 yard RBs to hand the ball off to.

He had an opportunity to succeed in Carolina. And the offense was very similar to what he was running at Notre Dame.

The guy just did not have. He fell to Carolina at 49 for a reason and we saw why last season.

yeah, i don't feel sorry about him.

our schedule is monsterous...

we need guys who can fill holes right today..

I want Julio but doubt he'll get past the Bengals Browns and Redskins..

if that's the case...good chance we get Liguet and plug him in as a starter right away..

there are plenty of WRs who would be available in the 2nd round..I really like Baldwin from Pittsburgh....

in the 3rd round...we need to come strong again...maybe OLB or FS..... if there isn't a guy there who we feel can come in and start...then I'd say look for a back up RB

but he did make a good point in that Cam Newton thread.

Tyrod Taylor is getting practically no love, and the kid deserves it.

Hard worker, talented, and smart as hell.

Unfortunately no one seems to be taking him seriously unless he switches to another position.

I'm rooting for this kid.

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even if its wackass Julio Jones (AJ way better). he'll be good enough

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Good job Goodell.

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Though I can't believe that anyone can have a few thousand people telling you they hate you at the same time and not feel something.

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wtf
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raw, freakishly athletic QB with character issues. good luck with that, carolina.

that franchise is horseshit, and i will have no reservations in hoping that he fails for them.

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Alex Smith was a system stud with an inflated
season in a non-pro style offense. Cam is much
bigger, stronger, faster, and has a stronger arm,
though.


Tim Couch -- No reason he busted. He easily looked
as good as Matt Ryan at the same stage. Was a tad
overhyped coming out of high school, though. Cam
is nothing like him.


Ryan Leaf -- Terrible human being with a negative
ability to deal with adversity. Cam is nothing like
him.


Jamacus Russell -- Lazy, no fire, no desire. All the
physical and mental skills though (pro style offense,
QB smarts)


Cam has dealt with adversity and laughed at it
multiple times, and in fact, has used it to MOTIVATE
HIM (which makes him better than Ryan Leaf)


He's had to hustle to get where he is, and took a
team on his shoulders, performing extraordinarily
well under pressure (unlike Jamarcus)







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Both threw zillions of passes and were running
pro style workouts in high school.



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Cleveland and Carolina both that found out first hand...

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every year can't be 1983 or 2004.

carolina could very well suck just as bad this year and be staring andrew luck in the face.

they should've picked dareus, let jimmy clausen fuck them for another year with dropped snaps and hoped to pick luck the next year.

n/m

i love the pick. him and Elvis coming off the corners is a PROBLEM!!! and DJ Williams. legit.

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good.

if cleveland gets patrick peterson, it could be a problem.

Headline after Carson throws 5 picks in a game in October

not even on the team, but he's an outside-the-locker-room distraction.

scientific fact.

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'you know Green has to make that adjustment, he needs to see Palmer under pressure and change his route to better fit the situation'

from his twitter:
JimmyClausen Jimmy Clausen
Congrats to Cam Newton! Welcome to the #Panthers

into a bottle of jack.

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this is a good look for Skelton in AZ

Falcons games are must watch now

sheeeid. two gully-ass, tough receivers!?!? lawd.

I get feeling everytime i see jones play he's gonna beast in the league andnow he doesnt even have to do so as primary option

that is WAY too much to give up for a WR.

ATL must have to give up a boatload here.

they get the falcons first round pick this year (of course) they also
get their 2nd and 4th round picks for this year. for 2012, Cleveland
gets a 1st and 4th round pick

they just gave up the entire top half of a draft. no trade today could possibly be dumber than this.

ATL's first round this year AND next year
ATL's 2nd rounder this year
ATL's fourth rounder this year and next year

teams sacrificing this many draft picks on one player and teams being terrible for the next five years. atlanta's done.

ALEX SMITH WON

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Way to go Titans.

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LOCKER BEFORE GABBERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've lived in Nashville.

My interest in now back to zero. Best of luck to Locker though.

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them tv niggas don't know SHITTTTTTTTT

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

and still gotten locker? 15? 20? i like the idea though. you see a guy you want who's not gonna be there in the 2nd, go for it.

and now this sorry ass is the new face and hope of our franchise.

fuck. my. life.

i wanted a QB but not his sorry ass.

goddamn.

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but he'll be very mature...and white. I mean assuming that he really is the "anti-Vince Young".

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Husky fans are going to be talking all sorts of shit in our general direction about their "no. 8 overall QB"

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brag about performance, sure.

but bragging about where a kid was drafted....what part of the game is that?

>Husky fans are going to be talking all sorts of shit in our
>general direction about their "no. 8 overall QB"
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Smartest move this team has made in 5 years.

Well, Vinny made smart moves trading down to get three 2nd rounders, but we know how that turned out.

How was that?


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all i can say is that they don't call jacksonville southern georgia for nothing. can't sell many tickets with a black face of the franchise. other than that, i got nothing.

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My friend who works for the Jags has a theory. You can tell by Garrards production on the first drive whether Jax will win or lose. Cuz in the first drive, Garrard is usually 7-8 or 0-3. He said he's the most bizarrely inconsistent QB he's ever seen in working in the NFL-- Pro Bowl one week, bottom 5 in the NFL the next.

Outside of his one sick season, he's just soooo hot and cold. That's his scouting report. But since he told me and I started attempting to analyze it.. It's pretty goddamn accurate.

And the problem isn't the jaguars' talent-- it's their consistency. A new QB means those in charge are sick of the inconsistency.

Jacksonville loves Garrard though. Hes well-spoken and uses God every other sentence. Kind of a shame.

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He can develop well behind Garrardian... Right?

written all over him.

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Better than OKS gives him credit for

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.

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he's smart and he makes his decisions quickly. If the play isn't there he's quick enough to get the fuck outta dodge and make something happen (alot faster than Bradford), he can throw darts on the run. I've watched him scan the whole field while running and deliver the pass to the open man. His arm is big and he can throw with touch. That whole "played in a spread" shit is a bit cysed, IMO.

>he's smart and he makes his decisions quickly.

No, his offense doesn't require any standing in
the pocket, any progressions, and is a wild spread
unlike anything he'll ever see in the NFL.

Strangely, "not a pro offense" was only used to
criticize Cam when the same thing, to a greater
degree, can be said about Blaine, except Blaine
wasn't as good running his offense as Cam was running
his.

>If the play
>isn't there he's quick enough to get the fuck outta dodge and
>make something happen (alot faster than Bradford),

Or rather, he didn't have the patience to stand in the
pocket, and when he did escape, he made bad decisions and
was absolutely dreadful on 3rd down and in the red zone.


>he can
>throw darts on the run.

Except on 3rd down and in the red zone.

>I've watched him scan the whole field
>while running and deliver the pass to the open man. His arm
>is big and he can throw with touch. That whole "played in a
>spread" shit is a bit cysed, IMO.

Ok. I mean, you can like him, but the evidence really isn't
there.





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I'm not sure how much you've actually watched him play football games...so I won't debate you. I've watched him a lot...on tv and in Columbia live. Guess we'll just have to wait and see on this one. Seems like you're getting defensive as if you think I'm disparaging Cam to hype up Blaine, but you couldn't be more wrong. I like Cam. None of that pay for play shit ever changed my opinion on him. He's a phenomenal athlete and a winner. I just think Blaine will end up being a better NFL quarterback. Oh...and Blaine's numbers in the redzone last season: 31 for 51, 191 yds, 9TD/3 picks, 138.72 rating. I wouldn't exactly call that dreadful.

>I'm not sure how much you've actually watched him play
>football games...so I won't debate you. I've watched him a
>lot...on tv and in Columbia live. Guess we'll just have to
>wait and see on this one. Seems like you're getting defensive
>as if you think I'm disparaging Cam to hype up Blaine, but you
>couldn't be more wrong. I like Cam. None of that pay for
>play shit ever changed my opinion on him. He's a phenomenal
>athlete and a winner. I just think Blaine will end up being a
>better NFL quarterback. Oh...and Blaine's numbers in the
>redzone last season: 31 for 51, 191 yds, 9TD/3 picks, 138.72
>rating. I wouldn't exactly call that dreadful.

I just find it weird that the problems that people have
with Cam can be said for all of the other QBs in this draft,
and people have all but ignored them.

Gabbert was not particularly productive in a non pro style
offense and was dreadful in situations where his production
and leadership mattered. Almost no one has consistently pointed
this out.

I personally think Gabbert is the 4th best QB in this
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What the hell is going on with this draft?

The Jaguars gave him a lot of chances, but after all the time and commitment they've given him, he refuses to stop being black.


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Might as well get a "talent" who can learn behind Garrard.

How's this dude's arm?

>How's this dude's arm?

and says he's on par with him

.

no matter who's the starting qb.

they've got a chance to have cornerstones on all three defensive levels.

thinking at Amukamara might drop to the lions got me gone off that Joe Namath

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Definitely not just you. Joe Namath agrees.

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I don't even know who I want. Fairley and Kevin Williams could be destructive in the middle, but I didn't think Prince would still be on the board either.

I'm not actually masturbating, but if they pick him i will definitely ejaculate.

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the thought of him rockin the Star on his helmet made me kinda hot, lol.

i'm more crunk about this draft than any i can remember. the no free agency apparently really bummed me out.

never thought i'd see that day.

they've made it clear they're hunting for a QB

.

Although Laettner's Wolves career has left a deep prejudice against ACC caucasians named Christian

All that talent on the board and yall take Ponder? lolvikingslol

what in the fuck did chilly do to us?!

FM(sports)L

damn. still salty about this.

Although if we can come up with Bowers in the second round, it might take some of the sting away.

HURRY UP AND GET ONE!!! EVERYBODY!!! NOW OR NEVER!!!
(in an unrelated note, would the following players please report to the bottom half of the 1st round: prince, pouncey)

ps. i reckon the titans and vikes will double down on qbs come free agency

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Let the beast fuckin begin!!!!!

Go LIONS! :)

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*looks at Carolina schedule*

Of course they play the Lions this year.

I wanted to duck the Lions just cause of Suh. Plus Fairley? Eli never met a brutal shot he couldn't take.

Ponder has all the intangibles, good leadership, FUCK SUH AND FAIRLEY ARE GOING TO FINGERCUFF THIS NOODLEARM CUNT TWICE A YEAR.

*looks at Twins score*

*circles NBA Draft lotto on calendar*



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two Sasquatches joined forces.

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He gon be runnin his fuckin ass off those 2 games, lawd.

just sent Matthews a text asking him get a hook up with his HGH guy.



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we'll see. They could also use secondary help with Otagwe gone.

playmakers on that DEF side of the ball. They played over their heads last season.

.

with that said.....they're are going to destroy offensive lines.

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with the new rules, cornerbacks are at a disadvantage. get some decent ones, and then just rush the hell out of the passer.

Its all part of the same problem.

And no way Suh lets Fairley get fat and play
lazy. He'll push Fairley to not act like a
fat nigga.

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Everybody they play gon hafta give they backups some practice reps that week.

And once-in-a-generation players like that
have ripple effects on a defense.

Niggas wonder why the Ravens D has been consistently
good across coordinators and with wildly different
personnel for OVER a decade.. Its because of Ray Ray.


This is an underrated aspect of defense.


Having to watch the Eagles twice a year,
I will say that the unheralded guy in that
Eagle defense was Seth Joyner. In his prime
he was the best coverage/range linebacker I
ever saw.

The only one I've seen better since is Derrick Brooks
(TB)


Unrelated, though


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people forget how good jerome was. he was headed to canton.

Productive but had character issues, as did
everyone on that U team

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the knock on Ngata was that he was lazy and unmotivated. that becomes moot when you get drafted by the Ravens.

comparin Pacman Jones to Deion in this bitch.

I'm officially worried about Detroit

.

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Please, Cutler just retired :)

quick, great feet and hands. Athletic as fuck. Kind of a departure from our normal O-lineman. He'll be able to get out and move with the plays alot better. Only pick that woulda made me happier is the CB from Nebraska.

yes it was a great pick


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DID I SAY EVERYTHING??????

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but dayum.

they can have 5'7" CBs. won't matter.

they gonna be breaking shit.


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to continue working hard

I think Suh won't give him much of a choice.

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i'm pretty sure i can cover any receiver in the NFL for 1.5 seconds.

fairley as a #1 pick was pretty scary when that was being tossed around a few months ago, but fairley as a #13? and getting paired with a guy who looks like he could be one of those all-time type players?

gonna be fun to watch (assuming we get to)

lot of steeler fans disappointed.

This was some dumb shit from day one. Mike was gonna go way before he should have cause Maurkice fuckin balled out. There's no way in hell you trade up that far for a fuckin guard. Nothing against Mike Pouncey but if he can't cover wide recievers I don't want no part of giving up any picks to get him so him and his brother can have sleepovers in matching Steeler PJ's.

Saying pats won't take ingram, cause he isn't much better than Law Firm.

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Its his low pad level specifically which is
what makes him so good.

I say he's a less elusive Rashard Mendendhall.

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sick balance though, better than Mendenhall. he's also great at pass protection.

like, shy, humble kids who talk to everyone who talks to them and hold the doors for women. great to hear kids like that succeed.

im a big fan of watching great pass rushes, if teams can't rush on them, qbs second check off will be throwing it out of bounce

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there's been more reaches in the top half of this draft than any i can remember.

this year.

i'm happy, tho.

oh shit. pats got solder.


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Hopefully he works as well as last year's number one.

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they're tanking 2011 to have a shot at Luck in 2012,
getting the most affordable players possible,
to save for big splashes in the free agent market for 2012

oh there's gonna a lot of

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and

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this season.

Webster, Ross, Thomas, Phillips and Nakamura

this pick was made with Maclin, Jackson, and Bryant in mind.

I fucks with it.

will prolly go CB b/c they have talib wylin out. shit.




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.

jimmy smith supposedly has better ball skills. (n/h).

we (would) just have to keep him off that purple.

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And he's African, yes cism-o. He has good values and
immigrant work ethic.




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Now if his picture starts showing up in emails, I'm gonna be suspicious.

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Nope! Good families and immigrant work ethic!


Jokes aside, Prince had the best draft family.

Africans had them Adrinka signs up and everything


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Over a year ago.

I was wrong!

seen Ponder play, nor do they realize that MIN needed a qb. Ponder is rated above Dalton & Locker on many draft boards. The only shock so far was Mallet not going in the 1st, but the shock wore off after pick #15.



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The only way you can be a white running back and
gain 1,000 yards is to dislike black people. Or
at least you have to hate most of them, several hours
a day.

He has to.

I'm only drafting a racist white running back. I want a
running back so racist, he seeks out the darkest defensive
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>I'm only drafting a racist white running back. I want a
>running back so racist, he seeks out the darkest defensive
>back and tries to run them over.
>
>
>

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I'm confused by this pick.

that interior line was wretched.

plus, maybe it means we gettin nmadi

OLs on the board (who are not 26).

on defense you had bowers, marvin austin, ayers, and jimmy lean smith.

wilkerson from temple. carimi (granted, i didn't want him in the first, either).

this is a complete reach.

this pick reminds me of andy's clock management and all that other bullshit.

*angry noises*.

wtfwtfwtf.


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He'll be around for the rest of Vick's
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Its more than worth a first round pick


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i'm cool w/ it.

and vick was getting his ass beat last year. that shit had to stop.

so i love that part of it.

folks were talking up DE and the eagles were VERY defense oriented in last year's draft.

drafting a guard, if jackson doesn't come back from injury, we still got mcglynn at center, who did aight, to be a first year starter under duress last year.

eh.


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all big-12 after only playing football for 4yrs is damn impressive.

i still think this is a reach. he might have been there by our 2nd round pick. (or within reach enough that we could have moved up to get him with very little ammunition).

i find it hard to believe any other teams had a first round grade on this guy.


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Eagles' offensive line had a lot of issues last year and Vick took too many hits. Jean-Gilles is a FA (?) and Watkins is arguably the best interior lineman left on the board.

a lot of teams dislike Jimmy Smith's complacency and some don't even see him as a corner. Bowers must have Andrew Wadsworth's knees to see so many teams pass him. Marvin Austin hasn't played football in a year and wasn't dominate when he did. besides, defensive tackle is the deepest position in this draft; they can swing one later.

Watkins was exactly the kind of "fills a need, but unsexy" pick that Eagles' fans have clamored for for years.

(if not nnamdi, then at least joseph).

this shit was just way left field.

in general, though, i do concede that andy is pretty good w/ linemen.

i will ALSO concede (now that the emo is wearing off) that howard mudd prolly knows OL better than anyone in the league, and andy wouldn't make that pick w/o consulting him, so if mudd is cool w/ it, i'm cool w/ it.

lets get it in FA, though.

we definitely DID need a new RG (i think justice will be aight if healthy, but we need to get someone else, too, there).


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I expect him to come in and start immediately. I believe he was the highest rated G on the board when he was picked. Could we have traded down and still got him? Possibly, but that's a huge gamble that I doubt the Eagles mngmt were willing to risk.

I'm thinking we'll go after a CB in free agency.

There was one player on board I really would have liked up to pick and that was Akeem Ayers.

But anyway, I'm cool with the pick...

Lindley might move to nickel to get him ready

Take that Canada!

fuck convertible linemen.

they BETTER get nnamdi in FA, man. this shit is crazy.

fuckin firemen.

and they had that lineup of firemen and policemen and all that shit.

lets everybody just jerk off on a uniform right now.

could we draft the flag? or apple pie?


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Convertible offensive lineman are the key.

The Patriots stay with versatile, smart o-lineman

The Denver teams with Terrell Davis had fast versatile
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or so I hope.

5, 6th and 7th round jokers, because those guys (light in the ass and athletic) were undervalued by the vast majority of teams but fit in well w/ the zone blocking, one cut scheme.

and when denver's OL guru went to ATL (w/ vick) and they put it in, it was bananas, however, the same OL coach responsible for terrell davis and all of them absolutely ignored the passing game (except PA) and those light in the ass linemen don't fare well against a bull rush in the dropback game.

andy's OL philosophy is much different. he likes convertible linemen, but he prefers big, hulking dudes. his philosophy for OL is almost 180 degrees from what you were talking about.

i know what i'm talking 'bout.

can't be any other teams besides philly that had a 1st round grade on this cat. it was a reach. and that's why i'm pissed.


>
>Convertible offensive lineman are the key.
>
>The Patriots stay with versatile, smart o-lineman

pats took solder who was one of the consensus top 3 OL on most ppl's boards, at 17. (they passed up carimi and castonzo to do that, and smith was already gone).

>The Denver teams with Terrell Davis had fast versatile
>lineman.



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or stick with the Whitehurst Experiment?

You can pass?!

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Robbed me of my one chance to be an ass with the locals.

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Good pick. FLINTTOWN!! :)

Too many turnovers in the offense the way
it was.

Now they have a dope TE, possession receivers
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which made him cry on camera and talk about how important his dad is... it was emotional but very exploitative

That's personal shit. Don't put that in front
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I did as well, but I'm quite excited with this pick too. Any help pressuring the quarterback will be an upgrade.

guys like this usually go top 10 on size alone with that kind of ability, will definitely step in and help right away... im excited about this pick...

if bowers ends up a beast it will hurt, but after the gholston pick i think another pass rush risk (and those knees are an insane risk and obviously the whole league agrees) let's go this beast in the middle!

I don't know much about James Carpenter but I do know the OL was a major problem last year.

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the DE from Ohio St. seems like a nasty guy who will fit the Steelers' style, but still

now, I'm wondering where Aaron Williams goes

dominant DE should, i dunno why that wouldn't continue to happen at the next level, but maybe coaching is the difference.

we'll see.

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obviously they don't think brandon harris or aaron williams are 1st round values, in which case i appreciate them not reaching. HOWEVER, cornerback is the #1 and #2 need on the roster right now, followed by offensive line. if we lose ike taylor in free agency, our starting CBs would be bryant mcfadden and william gay, and our nickel and dime defenses would be a joke.

i like the heyward pick, but it makes two things obvious: 1) they better be right on him (likewise, the CBs they passed on better not get good); and 2) they've painted themselves into a corner and now absolutely HAVE TO draft a CB with their 2nd round pick. even if the best guy on the board is a late third round value, oh, well. that's what happens when you ignore the position for this long.

*wipes tears*

The Titans drafted Jake Locker, who was as late as yesterday thought to drop into the 3rd round.

They would have given an arm and a leg to the Panthers. We coulda got Vince, and their 1st, 2nd, and possibly their 3rd round picks.

That would have helped the team out immediately. QB consistency was a problem with the team, but it wasn't the only problem. We could have picked up Gabbert for less money, possibly strengthened that O line with Smith, or even picked up Fairley anyway and made that run D a force to be reckoned with.

Then you'd have other picks to address other issues, because Marty Hurney already fucked up 2nd round picks in past drafts so we don't even have one this year. That's why that fool should have been fired long before John Fox was.

But we'll see if Cam does anything. I'm not getting my hopes up.


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Armanti Edwards...

Carolina didn't have any offers for a trade. I wish the Falcons would have traded with us. For what they gave up for the 6th pick?

No one was looking to trade.

Cam is a gamble and it's almost refreshing that the organization is finally done being conservative, but I'm not sold on the guy.

I wish we still had our second round pick so we could grab Bowers. I know there are injury concerns, but I think teams are going to be sorry for passing on him.

If Atlanta gave up an arm and a leg for #6, you don't believe they'd do the same for #1?

And they didn't have to get Cam; there were a vast number of guys that could have been legit #1 picks.
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Julio Jones is a great player aside from the 16+ drops he'll have every season, but absolutely not worth two first rounders, a second and two fourths. when Cleveland (of all teams) takes you on a date rape, that’s saying something.

Aldon Smith is one of my favorites this year -- his unblockable swim move, frame and athleticism are what scouts get hard-ons about -- but I liked him a lot better in a 4-3. he *can* hold the edge in the run game and he gives teams Justin Tuck versatility if you slide him inside on passing downs. his uniqueness is wasted at outside linebacker.

Nate Solder to New England was hilarious! I see why they made the pick, but his issues with fundamental pass protection are hard to ignore. he hardly plays as well as he should, and the Patriots had so many better options in my opinion: Cameron Jordan (a great 3-4 end), Prince Amukamara* (him and McCourty for the next six years, wow!) or even Mark Ingram. I was still laughing until the Colts picked...

...at which point I started crying. an hour later, I started to run scenarios where Anthony Castonzo doesn't suck for the Colts. um, the only one I could come up with is that he slides Charlie Johnson back to guard and improves two positions, but only moderately. Indy's biggest problem the last few years was an inability to convert 3rd and 2 downs on the ground -- so considering Castonzo wasn't even a great run blocker in the ACC, problem totally not solved!

Jimmy Smith landed in a good place. playing defense is at the heart of that team, and the veterans will let him know he's not the best corner in the universe. plus Baltimore is vested, because they really need help at defensive back.

*I'm glad that Gruden pointed out how Amukamara would get called for illegal contact on every down in the NFL (at least somebody read my draft thread). that and his mediocre ball skills probably kept him out of the top ten, but still a great value for the Giants.

Freakish height. Good athlete. Total asshole. Character issues.
Well-behaved and pro bowl level when he got around Ray-Ray and
Rod Woodson (it'll be Ed Reed now, which is at least as good
for a young, dumb nigga)

>Julio Jones is a great player aside from the 16+ drops he'll
>have every season, but absolutely not worth two first
>rounders, a second and two fourths. when Cleveland (of all
>teams) takes you on a date rape, that’s saying something.

Julio has the body control, physical nastiness, and
toughness...he just been lazy...he'll get that beat
out of him in the NFL and I suspect he'll be the better
receiver

I just fear AJ won't be able to get separation. I realize


>Jimmy Smith landed in a good place. playing defense is at the
>heart of that team, and the veterans will let him know he's
>not the best corner in the universe. plus Baltimore is vested,
>because they really need help at defensive back.

Ray Ray and them got Zbikowski as a decent Nikel Back
and return man. He's a better boxing prospect than
football prospect, so if that can squeeze decency out
of him, they'll get Jimmy Smith to starting level, at
least, soon


>*I'm glad that Gruden pointed out how Amukamara would get
>called for illegal contact on every down in the NFL (at least
>somebody read my draft thread). that and his mediocre ball
>skills probably kept him out of the top ten, but still a great
>value for the Giants.

Yeah, you did say that.


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>Freakish height. Good athlete. Total asshole. Character
>issues.
>Well-behaved and pro bowl level when he got around Ray-Ray
>and
>Rod Woodson (it'll be Ed Reed now, which is at least as good
>for a young, dumb nigga)


YUp to all of that

Once I saw the Pats had passed on Cameron Jordan I was getting really excited that AJ might actually pick him, only to see him pick a DL from a defense that gave up 67 points to Michigan.

Now part of me wanting Jordan was a bit homerism, however, I would have even been excited with Gabe Carimi or Prince.

I didn't see too many Illini games so maybe I am wrong about the kid. I hope?

he plays violently -- great burst, strong at the point. needs better technique, but beating the shit out of linemen with his hands worked pretty well last season. and he fits well as a DE in the Chargers' one-gap 34.

Carimi would've been nice though (as you know I'm one of his biggest fans).

and its going to suck watching prince get used to the nfl rules(for giant fans) as for the ball skills im not too worried.

i'll take PBUs of completions.

>*I'm glad that Gruden pointed out how Amukamara would get
>called for illegal contact on every down in the NFL (at least
>somebody read my draft thread). that and his mediocre ball
>skills probably kept him out of the top ten, but still a great
>value for the Giants.

it's the perfect pick with 4 games w/ Philly and Dallas, also Green Bay, New England, New Orleans and the Jets. We'll need all the depth we can get there.

Where do we get an impact linebacker, and of course a good offensive lineman (our's got old. They got Tiki to 1800 yards and he retired and came back) between 52, 83, and 117?

its such a giants type pick it.

we fuckin drafted philip dillard lol

>Nate Solder to New England was hilarious! I see why they made
>the pick, but his issues with fundamental pass protection are
>hard to ignore. he hardly plays as well as he should, and the
>Patriots had so many better options in my opinion: Cameron
>Jordan (a great 3-4 end), Prince Amukamara* (him and McCourty
>for the next six years, wow!) or even Mark Ingram. I was still
>laughing until the Colts picked...

i think you're hating in part because it's the pats and you knew i'd respond:)

The Pats have Leigh Bodden returning from injury to pair with McCourty. The Pats also have Ty Warren retuning from injury to play 3-4 end as well as Mike Wright. I'm ok with not taking either of those positions--they're pretty well stocked for the next couple of years (and Ron Brace was starting to not suck as well last year. high praise, i know). The OLB spot is the bigger need, not the 3-4 end.

I wanted Jordan. But the Solder pick is smart. The pass protection problems are based, imo--and likely the pats' opinion--on being a TE to OT convert and being 6'8. Vollmer's 6'7 and a relatively new football player and the pats have him as a core player on the line already. Same thing with Solder. I trust scarnecchia to work his magic again. I cannot overemphasize how much matt light was a weakness last season.

the pats' only UFA has now been replaced. Every pick from here on out is gravy.

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We got two 1st round picks, a second and two fourth round picks for the number 6 pick in the draft.

"Its been fun New Orleans"

I'm happy with the Adrian Clayborn pick at #20. But based on New Orleans getting Cam Jordan and Mark Ingram we gotta do something.


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lol...your snark failed.

Denard is still trash.

Michigan wont go .500.

Cry.

while the rich get richer...

Carolina just had the worst back to back draft run in nfl history...
Think about it... the take Jimmy Clausen in the second round then trade it's 2011 2nd round pick to go up and get Armanti Edwards (a college qb) then take Tony Pike in round 6, let Clausen play with the worst offense in the league hands down in the leagues toughest division, enter the offseason with more holes then anyone in the league and draft a qb project 1 overall with no 2nd round pick! LOL that is an EPIC FAIL and will cripple them for 10 years while TB, ATL, and NO steady make great moves... How bout you sign Vince Young to a 1 year deal, start him see if he runs with the job or if he fails see how Clausen develops behind him, trade back and stock up linemen, u dumb fucks.

The Bengals, first of all even IF you convince Carson Palmer to stay HE FUCKING SUCKS AT QB! Jerome Simpson lit it up late last season, you have Shipley and Gresham, and no qb, so let's draft another fucking wide receiver! LOL FAIL. T.O. went ham last year and where did that get cinncy? His #'s last year are Green's absolute ceiling this season.

Vikings, SF and Titans, no words... Why is Christian Ponder going to be better then Joe Webb? Or even Tarvar? Start Webb and give the ball to AP and Harvin you idiot serial rapist Childress... Kiper's absolute upside for Ponder was Pennington and I'll tell u right now no way will he be as good as Pennington. The Titans I can live with a qb pick, but trade back, take Mallet or Dalton. SF had better options as well.

oh, and fuck philly for letting the ravens steal Jimmy Smith who's gonna be a beast in b'more! It's funny how the good teams all got better last night for 2011... Also love the Lions pick and they had to do it, but it's another year to start waiver wire qbs and wr's vs the Lions in fantasy football because their 2ndary will continue to get lit up on the 75% of plays that that insane d-line doesnt get to the qb









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Otherwise I agree with you on the Vikes. Fairley was RIGHT THERE and Pat Williams 137 years old and needs to be replaced.

have made the pick

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Maybe Mallett, Dalton could be okay too.

Cam on a team that isn't Carolina might be, I don't know about him on the Panthers though.



AND OF COURSE CHRISTIAN PONDER WILL BE A 5 TIME MVP. If I say it loud enough and often enough, it becomes true.

He might even be able to spend his whole first year on the bench behind Dave, learning. It's not a Cam Newton situation in which he'll be expected to lead an anemic offense immediately.

board

i think he's got a shot at being good. mainly because of Chris Palmer coaching him up.

his mistake was not being all world last season.

cam will make highlight reels on a 3 win panthers team.

gabbert is a future development.

ponder, god bless his soul....

for whatever reason i like Dalton but i also liked brodie croyle lol

A WR should never, under any circumstance, be picked in the top 5 much less the top 10.

Atlanta offered a trade to them that would have been 3 picks this year and 2 next year in the top 3 rounds a piece? AND THEY PASSED FOR A WR???

Mike Brown, Marvin Lewis, who the *$#!@ is going to throw the ball this year?

Especially after he found out ATL's attempt to trade with the Bengals fell through at the last minute.