you didn't answer my question about venters. 4th in the league in appearances and 1st in the league in era for pitchers with >60IP. Isn't he also ahead of Heyward for ROY, which makes him the 2nd best rookie on his own team...

this argument keeps going in circles. i conceded his ability to get on base which translates to OBP, only a 15 point difference .378 v .363. should the next Hank Aaron have a better SLG than a SS, you would think so, however there is only a 14 point difference in SLG 452 v 438. A "sizeable" lead in BA, lets not be modest, its 50 points. how can you even compare them as defenders, SS v RF, c'mon son. to say Heyward is a better defender than Castro is ridiculous. you'll post some stat about errors or put outs or whatever, but c'mon son...