>first off, speaking on a camera is entirely different from
>composing a letter (with or without the help of a publicist
>and the duke alumni association). so, yeah, i hold hill to a
>different standard of clarity. but besides that, i thought
>rose articulated clearly why he hated duke: he believed they
>didn't want players with his background, he thought their
>players were privileged, and, by the "uncle tom" comment, he
>felt that black players who went there were playing for a
>program that was opposed to urban values.
>
>i'm not sure why you're harping on the fact that rose, king
>and jackson said these statements recently. It was clear the
>questions were about how they felt as a teenager.
>
because he's saying it today & continuing to ride with those thoughts, check First & Ten for further evidence, not to mention we're only talking about it because they decided to put this out there again this week all over.

Let's stop with the 'what he thought as a teenager' defense to hide from the fact that he & many *still* feel this way & we know this.

I don't have a problem with someone feeling that way either but don't bullshit a bullshitter and also don't act like someone on the other side of that discussion doesn't have the right to say something in his own defense or in defense of the school he comes from.

>as for hill, his unwillingness to broach why duke--then and
>now, the most hated program in the country--was disliked by
>kids from the hood is mind-boggling. asking him to acknowledge
>a commonly-known fact that plays a looming part in this
>discussion isn't asking for the "letter from birmingham jail."
>he's just another a self-satisfied, indignant duke prick.

I'm not even getting into Duke fandom or whatever, it's just stupid to me that he's the asshole for not carving out a response brilliant enough to both fully understand Jalen's perspective while articulating his own while the guy that just made the movie & the news with all this twenty years later somehow isn't held to that standard.