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36377, You have no choice but to grant me truth status.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Feb-01-06 10:29 AM

Because what I'm saying is true.

>if a white guy made zeke's moves in new york, would he
>receive as much criticism? it's a fair question to ask. i
>mean, bob whittsit is the only GM who approaches the sheer
>mind bending stupidity of the zeke era that i can think of.
>he didn't exactly get a pass in the national media. we also
>have to remember that it's basically two sources that drive
>the zeke debate on this board: bill simmons and bags, neither
>of which are without agenda. but given simmons's spotty
>racial record, and given this intangible feeling that there's
>a certain element of glee in watching the black man fail, and
>given that we still live in America, yeah, race has been part
>of the coverage of the zeke era.

Firstly, Bill Simmons is one of the most popular sportswriters in the country.

Basaglia is a poster on Okayplayer.com

The fact that one has a collumn on the largest sports conglomerate in the world, and the other is a parody log-in name on a hip hop website, should tip you off to which type of thinking is more accepted, and prevalent, in modern society.

Simmons' viewpoints are more indicative of the consensus, and INFLUENCE the consensus, far more than Basaglia's viewpoints.

I feel embarassed even having to shoot down that comparison.

But I did it anyway.

Comparing Bill Simmons to Basaglia, from this point on, will result in an automatic L for you.


>but less so than it would be in 95 percent of the coverage of
>black athletes elsewhere, because zeke's tenure has been truly
>awful. it's not even like he made moves that made sense at
>the time and blew up. it seemed as if he was intentionally
>trying to wreck the knicks.


You keep walking into minefields.

Kevin Mchale comitted illegal acts that completely ruined the T-Wolves for many years. The only reason Mchale's error didn't make them as bad as the Knicks is because the T-Wolves already had a mega star who is used to carrying the load and making a poor team over achieve year after year. Zeke didn't walk into the Knicks with Garnett. Mchale did walk into the T-Wolves with Garnett. Mchale is the criminal and crook, however he gets none of Zeke's hate.


> they are moves that everyone and
>their mother knew were panicked at the time, they made no
>sense at the time, and what the knicks are today was
>completely predictable and are a direct result of his moves.

Problem is, most of Zeke's bad moves were desperate BECAUSE A WORSE GM preceded him, which COMPLETELY handcuffed his freedom.

I say that and I don't feel two ways about Zeke as a GM.

I do know that Bin Layden should be thrown into the Pit of Tarmac. That being the case, any GM following Bin Layden was doomed for failure, because Bin Layden's fuckups were not only temporary, they fucked up the FUTURE.

Zeke's strategy was to try and mix it up. Hasn't worked. I can't say I hate the strategy. Following Bin Layden is lose-lose.

>when you're mentionned in the same breath as bob whittsit, you
>know you fucked up. add that to his failure with the cba and
>the pacers, and you have a guy who shouldn't have a position
>of authority with any real responsibility in the NBA.

Just like Kevin Mchale, who cheats, lies, and breaks rules, right?






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