seriously. no pleas. no nothing. this guy is the biggest choke artist, not only that i've ever seen, but that i can possibly imagine.

incomplete. right.

someone got a "bonus" for makin that call

there is nothing that even remotely indicated that wasnt a pick and i could give a shit about who wins this game

"he lost control before his knee was down"

motherfucker was rollin on the floor! if that aint down i dont know what is. and it's not like the ball came loose when he hit the ground. i dont care who wins either but damn.

i love the game, but i dont show emotion for it. but this is just...SOME SHIT

>"he lost control before his knee was down"
>
>motherfucker was rollin on the floor! if that aint down i
>dont know what is. and it's not like the ball came loose when
>he hit the ground. i dont care who wins either but damn.

he actually said something 2 the effect of him losing control of the ball while his knee was still down & before he got up. It's BS either way tho. So was that non-call of either offsides or encroachment.

Is Peyton Manning the next Jim Kelly?

Peyton Manning has gottne to one AFC Championship.

I am first and foremost a Bengals fan.
But right there standing behind them is the Colts.
Peyton has done nothing but been impressive and run the best offense in the NFL for the past couple years.
How are you gonna say this about someone is proven?

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he lost the game, and then the refs gave him the biggest gift in the history of the universe. then reggie wayne bailed him out twice. BITCH BITCH BITCH.

great #'s in the playoffs and
hes facing quality defenses he comes up small

oops what i meant to say was

he puts up great number sin the reg. season
playoffs come and he faces quality defenses dude is exposed....

>great #'s in the playoffs and
>hes facing quality defenses he comes up small

I mean, say what you want about the infamous Pats/Raiders game, but that call was a clear bail-out today.

I'd like to see a FG sail wide and have the refs raise their arms, or have it bounce off the post and suddenly a flag goes flying in. That would be great.

That sneaky Paul, he moves in mysterious ways. Luckily Peyton is too much of a bitch to win it without his place kicker and Tagliabue appeared to have used all his voodoo.

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However, if he can score on this last possession, he'll get a chance or two to redeem himself, because the AFC WILL win the Super Bowl.

Look at the great teams Marino was up against. I think it's an insult to call loser a poor man's Marino.

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Peyton gets one more chance.

Instead of saying loser, we say Manning.

Example : Dude your such a Manning. See how easy it is.

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ie, NOTHING.

>ie, NOTHING.

Yeah why not gain a few more yards 2 get an easier/shorter kick instead takin shots @ the endzone on every throw?

I guess it might not have mattered they way MV shanked it but still.

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amazing statlines but no rings or big game performances.

He's had some good teams and disapears for important streches during the playoffs.

one good TEAM. all other entries were kg and his band of merry men.

plus, he carried them to the conf finals.

The only reason he barely belongs in that group is because Marbury wouldn't accept the sidekick role, otherwise they probably would have won a title.

did the trio work well together, thus my belief he only had one team. then ET & Spree got pissy and shit went south quick.

i still curse marbury to this day for not seeing the light. just because he wasnt gettin paid as much as kevin, he had to throw away a partnership which could have been great. insane...but then, you know this.

but they should have been doing that shit EARLIER in the game.

The Doc doesn't want to hear any jabronis shitting on McNabb from here on out.

Now if we can just get McNabb out of a bitch-made offense...

where i mention that and have for a LONG time countered mcnabb attacks with what peyton does.


what a trick ass bitch.

thank u....outside of Tom Brady no QB is seeing McNabb in the modern era

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Marino never had the best team around him.

Peyton had the best team around him and just showed his ho-ness.

where there was no restriction on QB or WR contact.

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dungy basically started panicking in the first quarter. and in the colts last possession, you ALWAYS play for the first down when you have three timeouts late in the game. you NEVER leave the game in the hands of your placekicker. that's a marty schottenheimer move...and we all know how many super bowls marty's won. as much as i like him and pull for him, dungy's just as much at fault for losing this game as manning is.

but yeah.

That playcall was PB&J. Don't trust Edge? Get burned.

Peyton overriding Dungy was gay though.

The gamble paid off, but no more passes should be given to these jabronis anymore.

i find it hard to believe that the tony dungy who coached the bucs wouldn't pick up that first down inside your oppenents 30 with 2 timeouts left, especially with a back like edge.

control of offensive playcalls. he's fucking arond and going for homeruns instead of getting first downs, and losing mad yards on blitzes. steelers were bringing mad people and he got everyone on 20 yard routes? wtf? stupid. did dungy fuck up earlier in the game? and you know vanderjagt is a bitch -- why not throw a slant or hitch on 3rd and 2? piss poor game mgmt.


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they gotta have the balls to bring in a real offensive coordinator and tell him to run the fucking offense.

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but even i knew what was going on. that's fucking unforgivable, and it's not the first time he's done it. it was also incredibly fucking moronic, given the game could have been lost right there.

and, like cere said, if daunte did that...

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would be Brett Favre and Tom Brady, and the latter is a STRETCH.

Jake Plummer would have been shat on if he did that bullshit.

But it was the right call.

As assholish as that was, that was what had to happen in that situation.

NEVER!

he would have gotten a pass.

Peyton really is the reason the Colts lost.

Not the defense. They had it. Else the Steelers would have put up 30+.

The Doc would HATE to be a Colts fan, he's been subliminally rooting for them for years, but after this shit...this is like watching that infamous Todd Pinkston against the Redskins play that resulted in T.O. having to get the yards from a questionable PI call last year. The time for plea copping has ended.

games won under belt. Yo really can't compare Manning and Brady. Now comparing Manning to Hasselback or Palmer would be better.

That assholia he pulled today, no one else would dare do.

Not even Brett Favre.

That was wack but he's a loser.

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so true. he ain't the damn coach! he better apologize or i'm pulling my peyton manning football cards from my collection.

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>he better apologize or i'm
>pulling my peyton manning football cards from my collection.

This dude always crying about an injury. His arm get hurt he holdin it. This dude acting like he about to die n shit. Saltine STFU go get a wrap, and bring yo ass back out. Otherwise sit on the sideline. There neva eva eva eva been a QB of this Saltine's highly bitchmade caliber in quite some time...and yes, for the record I'm madder than a sumumaumabitch that Colts lost to the no account Squeelers.....

I gotta go with Marvin Lewis..this Saltine's str8 bitch. I hopin John Lynch knock some sense into dude. GO BRONCOS!!

and choked with that gift.


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anticlimactic.

For it to be legit Peyton has to go THRU Belichick

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if they get to the superbowl without playing the colts.

but as far as rivalries go, the Colts are their nemesis.

but I'd be calling for peytons head if I was a colts fan.

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Tony deserves better then that heartless clown Peyton. We saw Eli in the playoffs. Archie should've raised them in the hood. Neither seems to have "IT" and you can tell by their body language.

As I see it the best Qb's are:
Brady- got the rings
McNabb-4 NFC championship appearances, 1 SB, give him the Colts O and he'd have like 5 rings now, I think he's better then Tom as far as talent and when he runs

No one else has really done shit.

I member one game when dude beaten up badly. While he was on the sidelines, Jim let his mouthpiece drop outta his mouth and all his mouth started draining blood.

mcnabb better than brady!?!? wow

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What about Steve Francis? or ........ Randy Moss? ........ TO? (no, he produces when it counts) ........ ummmmm .........

yeah, you're right. It's Peyton.

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Wow, that actually works!

I'm on cism watch.

they're going to blame dungy (whose defense held the steelers to 21 points) and the protection (without alluding to who calls the plays) and the weather in the dome before they blame manning.

the field was kinda wet

>the field was kinda wet
you're right it was, peyton was pissing his pants the first three quarters of the game.

lol.

If only somebody here was one of those super-hackers and we could write up a Bill Simmons-esque article that says this and paste it into page 2. Basaglia's head might explode.

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Manning lost to because of a Crazy Bitch.

it never stops

...he would be villified. Peyton has nevered won a big game, that mattered, in his life.

HAHAHAHA.

The fuck is all this shit about "I want to be a good teammate and I'm not gonna name names, but we some protection issues today." Fuck you dude. Just fuck you. "Good teammate" my ass. If I was his linemen I'd already be planning to let some folks run a train on him next year.

marino NEVER had the weapons peyton has....
so stop with that nonsense

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I don't get it. Manning haa pro bowl receivers all around and a top 10 running back, yet always chokes. Give the Patriots Edge, Harrison, and Wayne and they'd run the table.

this year.

and he still couldn't get it done.

*sighs in relief* We may not win every game but Brady don't bitch out like Loser.

i'm suspending all vick, kobe, and steph hatred for the next 48 hours.

I'll put it here.

So that everyone knows, I just drove into work to get on the computer to do this... congratulations Steelers and your fans. You deserved to win this game. You deserved to win it much more than three measly points. Your team deserved better than horrible calls going in my Colts way. You outplayed and outhit my Colts and truly deserved to win. The football gods have a way of balancing things out.

On the flipside, my Colts deserved to lose. First of all, when our offense only scores 18 points, it's Peyton Manning's fault. Anytime our offense struggles, Manning is to blame, period. Everytime we lose, Manning forgets about Edgerrin. He forgets to give him his touches. The one sucessful drive that actually looked like our regular offense, Edgerrin got the ball eight times. I've said it all season, hell the last few seasons. Edgerrin must touch the ball 20-25 times for us to be successful. When Peyton loses Edge, we lose the game. It's that simple.

We had no business even being in the game period. There's no excuses from my end. We lost, period. We choked, period. That's it, that's the list (c) Tony Kornheiser. As a result, I don't know if I can really ever trust this team again. We had every single advantage in our favor this year. Home field, what turned out to be a soft schedule, a defense that actually tackles, etc. This was the year of no excuses. Again, I have none. We got beat, period.

Again, congrats Pittsburgh and its fans. Good luck next week against the Broncos. I'll be online for another half-hour, then I'm going back to watch the rest of the next game. Be easy, people.


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I was never really excited about this season...except maybe for the Pats game, that was kind of fun

typical result - I dunno how anybody can be surprised

anyway...big K-1 Max card coming up next month!

but i just wanted to be here and say... Peyton choked.
no excuses. he choked because Edge wasn't involved outside of one series. if i were Edge, i wouldn't come back, not to that shit.
Peyton never gives him the ball when he needs to for the offense to be successful. it's so frustrating when he just doesn't give Edge the ball.


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he choked the year before

this is not a surprise

what's somewhat surprising is he did it in a position in which we had every single advantage and he still choked.

like i said in my long diatribe, i don't think i can trust this team again. we blew it when we had every advantage in our favor. i can't see us winning it at all now.

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>>>>"The football gods have a way of balancing things out."<<<<<

haha try and tell that to Raider fans after the "tuck-rule" snow game.

balance.

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i was interested to see how the colts fans on here would react to this one...i'm a little surprised, i'm impressed with your ability to call a spade a spade...


13-0. NATIONAL CHAMPS!
14-2. big win.
27-10.

my man DK. That's manning (no pun intended) the fuck up

and his head moves from side-to-side spastically

he can blame the line all he wants but I was watching him and he looked shook...he usually calls out the blitzes to his line before the play, he was just getting up there and being frozen...he did the same shit against the pats the last 3 years...
I knew as soon as I saw his feet shuffling that it was gonna be a bad game...in the regular season peyton is a master of mechanics and rhythm...in big games all that shit goes out the window and he looks like a little girl running from a potential rapist.

and congrats to the steelers...but not their fans...I had to wait on those rude bafoons after the game without spitting in their food or their face...it took a lot of discipline...i've seen more class at a Nascar infield party.

I wouldn't be surprised if they left. They gotta know Peyton is a loser.

if it were up to me.

black qb's need weapons

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You can keep everyone else.

We finally can agree that Tom Brady is the better quarterback.

Brady waits until AFTER he does the bonehead shit to bitch up.

The Doc has always been an Edge fan, and would love nothing more but Edge in midnight green.

despite the change in titles, a decision of that kind is and will always be in the hands of Big Red. When we pass on Edge like they did on Alexander last year, that will be because Andy Reid said so.

Heckert isn't even the Billy King to Reid's Larry Brown.

he chokes every year, and the defense takes the heat. this year there's no patriots d or inclement weather to blame, either.

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Aint that a bitch.

everything vols sucks. i can't deal w/ peyton letting
me down year after year.

The loss last year vs the Pats = Peyton's fault
Today's loss = Peyton & the line's fault

he played like shit. When you're the alleged best qb you find a way to win.

Doesn't he call the plays?

If he was under pressure then call a two back set or have Edge back there. He had some empty back sets and they all out blitzed so he got sacked.

The offense looks bad in the games they lose. That's his fault. He gets all the credit now give him the blame. They had 10 points until the refs GAVE him an extra possession.

Like Brady did yesterday?

Loser is just that, a loser.

maybe he should've not called deep passing plays half the time with bad protection, or better yet...run the ball with his top 5 back to slow down some of the blitzing

I'm just wary of going overboard on Peyton hate.

>I'm just wary of going overboard on Peyton hate.
how can you go overboard on someone who has seemingly every individual regular season accomplishment a player can get, yet when his team needs him most, fails to deliver with a transcendent, legendary performance to validate all of the praise constantly and consistently delivered to him?
and to top it off, after delivering a characteristically poor showing (although the statistics may look more respectable than they were), rather than just taking it on the head and spreading the blame equally like "we were whipped in all facets of the game" he refers to his protection. SOOOOO BITCHMADE. really, if he was one of the notorious "me" athletes, he would have been absolutely CRUCIFIED. it brings to mind the "Leon" bud light commercials, and i wish i was joking when i say this.

i can't think of too many players in any sport who i legitimately thought were big-game chokers. i just think its an affliction that's not as common as people think it is. so i wait as long as possible to apply it to someone.

that being said, there's no denying that peyton is a straight bitch. his comments sealed the deal. but i already disliked him when i realized he constantly walks off the field berating teammates like "you fucked up." I mean, when he throws a bad int does he berate himself? no, he looks at the WR or some shit like that.

that's no way to lead a team. you can't publicly belittle teammates on a constant basis and expect anything good to come from it: see Owens, Terrell.



>>I'm just wary of going overboard on Peyton hate.
>how can you go overboard on someone who has seemingly every
>individual regular season accomplishment a player can get, yet
>when his team needs him most, fails to deliver with a
>transcendent, legendary performance to validate all of the
>praise constantly and consistently delivered to him?
>and to top it off, after delivering a characteristically poor
>showing (although the statistics may look more respectable
>than they were), rather than just taking it on the head and
>spreading the blame equally like "we were whipped in all
>facets of the game" he refers to his protection. SOOOOO
>BITCHMADE. really, if he was one of the notorious "me"
>athletes, he would have been absolutely CRUCIFIED. it brings
>to mind the "Leon" bud light commercials, and i wish i was
>joking when i say this.

Peyton chokes in big games, Eli choked at the end of the season and in his first playoff game, and well Archie never got a chance, but I'm sure he would've choked to.

ass off.

mr cerebral couldn't see blitzburgh bringing the fucking kitchen sink and check to some shorter routes?

3rd and 16 and obvious two down territory and less than two min: defense is going to be playing the sidelines? what's he do? HORRIBLE overthrow 40 yards down the field. then takes a 10yd loss on a sack to put steelers in scoring position.

THEN. they get ball back on a miracle. moves them downfield on good passes to wayne. and then, 3rd and 2. throw the fucking slant. he goes for the gusto and leaves the game in the hand of the only other choker that rivals him on the squad. vanderjerk.

i called that he would push it wide from 46. they flashed the stat showing how perfect he was. i was like, watch. he's gonna choke.

*gagging sound*.

manning is a yatch, for real. 18 points.


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Vinny, dude thinks too much. Manning already has in his head who he's throwing the ball to so when the defense blitzes, he's like "oh shit." He panicks and throws the ball away or gets sacked. Now someone like Brady ho I think is very underated at reading defenses will see the defense blitzing and use screen passes or the westcoast offense with the short 3-5 yard passes. Brady plays off instinct that's why if your open, he'll find ya. See Manning has great recievers who can run routes with excellence, run the deep pass and beat the coverage so when Manning hits them, it makes him look good but in my opinion, the O line and recievers should get the credit. Jake Delhomme (spelling) is real good at reading defenses too.

if Peyton is supposed to be so great, we should score 28-31 points from the jump. it doesn't matter who we're playing. that's the minimum. when we don't score, it's because Edge isn't involved.

Today, 13 rushes for Edge, only 5 in the 2nd half. We lose.

It's that simple. Peyton didn't give the ball to Edgerrin... so he choked, period.

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peace & blessings,

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Two guys I have always respected a lot and said got knocked unfairly but not being able to win the big game. Neither of them had strong showings today. I am not ready to write them off but this was certainly a terrible look.

I got a question for Steeler fans though, not that I really give a shit, but WHERE ARE THE COWHER HATERS NOW!?!?! This guy is a solid coach, I'd love to have him in Philly and so would all but a couple of other organizations out there.

Troy Polamalu may be THE classiest athlete in the NFL. After it got reversed, dude just strapped it back on and was ready to roll. He didn't even look mad at all.

The Steelers are full of class-act athletes. There's a couple of bad apples in there, but generally, they're a good bunch. They don't bitch, they just get it done.

werd up!

Yup, like I said before, ppl are making it a black/white things because of the dudes with locks and long cornrows but who has been wearing their long since they broke into the league? Pacific Islanders, they get no respect from the fans or the league.

how can you possibly rank manning above McNabb now?

manning has been to one afc championship game.

Not a strong look as a leader. Manning gets a Life L for today. Everything about him today was a complete L.

With every audible in the colts' system there is an independant LINE audible. Problem is that against the 3-4 you don't EXACTLY know where the blitz is or isn't coming from. Lots of sugar on the table- feigning blitzes, etc.

So, I'm sayin...

It's HIS fault.


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With every audible in the colts' system there is an independant LINE audible. Problem is that against the 3-4 you don't EXACTLY know where the blitz is or isn't coming from. Lots of sugar on the table- feigning blitzes, etc.

So, I'm sayin...

It's HIS fault.


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in the press conference saying he trying to be a good teammate and trying to put it nicely by saying "we had some protection problems" when he was really saying my "o-line fucked up."

Fuck Peyton, man. Call some better plays.

How you gonna expect your 5 offensive linemen to block 7-8 defenders? LOL.

Call some max protect plays or have have a TE or 2 or a RB or 2 to stay in and block or chip defenders before going into routes.

If not that call plays where there are short routes to counter the blitz.

Call some got damn draws or counters.

His not brave enough to win the big game. On that 4th and 16 he has to stand in the pocket make that pass and take the hit

sorry bshelly, gotta reiterate what that bitch just said.

"You wanna try and be a good teammate but...we had some protection problems, and I give credit to the Steelers blitzing and line pressure, but we had some protection problems."

are you KIDDING ME? Dude, YOU CALL THE PLAYS.

here i was thinking he was going to say something about vanderjagt. i could not BELIEVE he sold his line out like that. what an absolute bitch. shut up and take the L like a man.

i move that from now on, #18 for the colts be referred to as Peyton Womanning.

"adjustments" and fucking "checkoffs," but it's the fault of the o-line. Okay. This may be the beginning of the end of the current Colts run, all because of this dumbass.
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u ain't lying. he made joey porter look good. the colts D is not soft though, they were getting at it, save a few big pass plays. but when your offense for the SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR puts up 3 points going into the half, something's gotta give.

I hate playing the Colts(computer) on Madden cause Pey.....Loser takes too damn long and I always jump offsides.

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P.S. "your conjecturing rhetoric is a nefarious attempt at retorting my assertions"

and if i just change some of my defensive assignments, it confuses him

>
>~Peace~
>
>P.S. "your conjecturing rhetoric is a nefarious attempt at
>retorting my assertions"

it's not about getting credit. it's all about the hate.

Playing like ass is one thing, but to get up there talking about "protection" issues after the game. Everybody who watched the game saw it, but why go up there and hang your line out to dry? No reason to do so.

Man up and take the blame, since you take all the credit when it all goes right.


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From Peyton being given a second second chance at its inception, only to blow that on idiotic play calling on the 30-yd line, to him bitching out his O-line in the press conference. I'm just hoping that as long as it stays on the front page Peyton will keep bitching out.

MAY THIS POST NEVER DIE!!!!

this manning thing is a curse.

i have a bad feeling this is going to befall young elijah too...

we're doomed (c) c-3po

~Peace~

P.S. "your conjecturing rhetoric is a nefarious attempt at retorting my assertions"

He's just a regular season player thats it.

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first of all, he wasn't playing against a pop warner team B...so to say he choked...I don't think that's accurate...

But the problem I see with the Colts is the same problem I've mentioned on here before. It's Peyton's play calling. Whenever you pressure him, or if he's in a situation where he's not successful early in the game, his game plan because 1 dimensional, they move away from running the football, and they reduce their chances of winning. Being an old school type of fella, I don't mind at all a QB calling his own plays...it's just that Peyton's game plan in his play calling in those type of situations, is not good.

The other thing is that a "Trick" offense has NEVER won the super bowl....the closest thing to a trick offense that did was my Rams...but the big difference was that those Rams core was running Marshall Faulk...throwing to Marshall Faulk...using the fullback and the TE.... The Colts and their no huddle, at the line audible type of offense will put some nice numbers up...but when it comes time to play smash mouth football....they don't do it...They could..they have the personal ..but they have a guy calling their plays that is going to try to do it all himself, and throw the ball when they need to be running it more....

also...I don't dig Peyton blaming his O-line for coverage problems......He's calling the plays...he needs to take responsibility...

>first of all, he wasn't playing against a pop warner team
>B...so to say he choked...I don't think that's accurate...
this was the SAME team he ran up on in the regular season, yes ben wasn't as healthy but ben doesn't play on their D line.

>But the problem I see with the Colts is the same problem I've
>mentioned on here before. It's Peyton's play calling.
>Whenever you pressure him, or if he's in a situation where
>he's not successful early in the game, his game plan because 1
>dimensional, they move away from running the football, and
>they reduce their chances of winning.
what you just said is what everyone else is saying, he doesn't respond favorably to pressure, hence forth he tightens up and goes away from doing what got him there. he CHOKES.

>Being an old school
>type of fella, I don't mind at all a QB calling his own
>plays...it's just that Peyton's game plan in his play calling
>in those type of situations, is not good.
agreed.

>The other thing is that a "Trick" offense has NEVER won the
>super bowl....the closest thing to a trick offense that did
>was my Rams...but the big difference was that those Rams core
>was running Marshall Faulk...throwing to Marshall
>Faulk...using the fullback and the TE.... The Colts and their
>no huddle, at the line audible type of offense will put some
>nice numbers up...but when it comes time to play smash mouth
>football....they don't do it...They could..they have the
>personal ..but they have a guy calling their plays that is
>going to try to do it all himself, and throw the ball when
>they need to be running it more....
agreed again

>also...I don't dig Peyton blaming his O-line for coverage
>problems......He's calling the plays...he needs to take
>responsibility...
ABSOLUTELY.

>>first of all, he wasn't playing against a pop warner team
>>B...so to say he choked...I don't think that's accurate...
>this was the SAME team he ran up on in the regular season, yes
>ben wasn't as healthy but ben doesn't play on their D line.

but see...The Colts really can't do anything different than they do....the Steelers on the other hand could make the adjustments based on the regular season game.....

>
>>But the problem I see with the Colts is the same problem
>I've
>>mentioned on here before. It's Peyton's play calling.
>>Whenever you pressure him, or if he's in a situation where
>>he's not successful early in the game, his game plan because
>1
>>dimensional, they move away from running the football, and
>>they reduce their chances of winning.
>what you just said is what everyone else is saying, he doesn't
>respond favorably to pressure, hence forth he tightens up and
>goes away from doing what got him there. he CHOKES.

no..it's not about tightening up...it's about just bad game planning at those times...it's not about execution, which I associate with choking...but more about planning, and play calling...

>
>>Being an old school
>>type of fella, I don't mind at all a QB calling his own
>>plays...it's just that Peyton's game plan in his play
>calling
>>in those type of situations, is not good.
>agreed.
>
>>The other thing is that a "Trick" offense has NEVER won the
>>super bowl....the closest thing to a trick offense that did
>>was my Rams...but the big difference was that those Rams
>core
>>was running Marshall Faulk...throwing to Marshall
>>Faulk...using the fullback and the TE.... The Colts and
>their
>>no huddle, at the line audible type of offense will put some
>>nice numbers up...but when it comes time to play smash mouth
>>football....they don't do it...They could..they have the
>>personal ..but they have a guy calling their plays that is
>>going to try to do it all himself, and throw the ball when
>>they need to be running it more....
>agreed again
>
>>also...I don't dig Peyton blaming his O-line for coverage
>>problems......He's calling the plays...he needs to take
>>responsibility...
>ABSOLUTELY.

>but see...The Colts really can't do anything different than
>they do....the Steelers on the other hand could make the
>adjustments based on the regular season game.....
yes but the colts went against what they had been doing all season long. they started to panic and went pass happy and womanning was making a lot of bad throws.

>no..it's not about tightening up...it's about just bad game
>planning at those times
yes, but as the unofficial offensive coordinator of the team, what happens on the field affects BOTH his playcalling AND his execution, which is probably why he should let the offensive coordinator do the playcalling. when things are going well, he's all business, but whenever shit goes bad, he's shaking his head and has that expression like he has gas.

>...it's not about execution, which I
>associate with choking...but more about planning, and play
>calling...
when you put on both hats, execution, planning and play calling are inexorably linked. this is the BLUEPRINT for dealing with him. the patriots perfected it, the chargers did it, and now the steelers. if you haven't yet planned or called better plays to adjust to this type of pressure what are you stupid? or lacking mental toughness in extreme pressure filled situations. i tend to pick the latter.

>>but see...The Colts really can't do anything different than
>>they do....the Steelers on the other hand could make the
>>adjustments based on the regular season game.....
>yes but the colts went against what they had been doing all
>season long. they started to panic and went pass happy and
>womanning was making a lot of bad throws.

actually..what the Colts did today...is the same thing they've done over the years when put in this same type of circumstance......Their style of play has them locked in to a certain format...and they cannot easily come out of that.

>
>>no..it's not about tightening up...it's about just bad game
>>planning at those times
>yes, but as the unofficial offensive coordinator of the team,
>what happens on the field affects BOTH his playcalling AND his
>execution, which is probably why he should let the offensive
>coordinator do the playcalling. when things are going well,
>he's all business, but whenever shit goes bad, he's shaking
>his head and has that expression like he has gas.

I agree...but that's not choking to me...that's having a system set up for failure....I mean....I've heard a few hall of famers same that Johnny Unitas was the best play caller in the history of the NFL....the current Colts QB is not a good play caller...and I say that now...and I said it when he was breaking Marino's record....
>
>>...it's not about execution, which I
>>associate with choking...but more about planning, and play
>>calling...
>when you put on both hats, execution, planning and play
>calling are inexorably linked. this is the BLUEPRINT for
>dealing with him. the patriots perfected it, the chargers did
>it, and now the steelers. if you haven't yet planned or called
>better plays to adjust to this type of pressure what are you
>stupid?

So is Peyton Manning the only guy who is responsible for making that adjustment??? and if he is..That's even further proof that something is wrong in the bigger picture....

or lacking mental toughness in extreme pressure filled
>situations. i tend to pick the latter.

actually...I wouldn't question the mental toughness...if a guy wants to take it all on himself...I wouldn't question his toughness....

the thing is that this has now happened multilple times over the years, and they get too drunk off all the hype of TD passes to see that there is something inherently wrong with their system...

>
>

>actually..what the Colts did today...is the same thing they've
>done over the years when put in this same type of
>circumstance......
yes, and every time they STICK WITH THE RUN, they succeed.

>Their style of play has them locked in to a
>certain format...and they cannot easily come out of that.
they very well CAN easily come out of that. their best sustained drive was the one in which edge touched the ball 8-10 times. even though they just got a field goal out of it, if they had been doing that the entire game, it would have been totally different. but their playcaller wanted to be mr strategy.


>I agree...but that's not choking to me...that's having a
>system set up for failure....I mean....I've heard a few hall
>of famers same that Johnny Unitas was the best play caller in
>the history of the NFL....the current Colts QB is not a good
>play caller...and I say that now...and I said it when he was
>breaking Marino's record....
how isn't it choking when the plays you call aren't even completed? i mean i could understand if the passes weren't getting much yards but did you see how many OVERTHROWS he had? it was atrocious.

>So is Peyton Manning the only guy who is responsible for
>making that adjustment???
well, as the one who calls the play he's chiefly responsible

>and if he is..That's even further
>proof that something is wrong in the bigger picture....
the only thing that's wrong is the kool aid flowing freely through javier lopez's veins

>actually...I wouldn't question the mental toughness...if a guy
>wants to take it all on himself...I wouldn't question his
>toughness....
i mean obviously in the NFL most any player "wants" to take the load when the time calls for it, but how they perform in adversity is the best measure of that. when they started to get down early, he made the same sorry ass face he makes EVERY TIME THEY GET WORKED IN THE PLAYOFFS.

>the thing is that this has now happened multilple times over
>the years, and they get too drunk off all the hype of TD
>passes to see that there is something inherently wrong with
>their system...
won't disagree with you on that, but everything was in their favor this year. no injuries, homefield, best record, etc etc. had they stayed faithful to the run and not panicked, could have been different.
but king bitch got nervous, flustered, had HAPPY feet, couldn't make early throws to save his life, then finally woke up in the 4th quarter. i'm sorry but i can't blame that all on a system that work 85% of the time. if he's a perennial MVP for calling all the plays, he needs ot take the brunt of it when shit doesn't go right and when the OFFENSE isn't putting up points.

he gets all the credit in the world for calling plays when it's going well. he deserves all the blame when the play calling was clearly awful today.

I don't think it's choking as much as it's just poor play calling...

to me choking is not executing...throwing picks...dropping passes....fumbling...missing FGs...not tackling...

That's choking to me..

but the "gameplan" that Peyton is bringing to the table during certain times is not condusive for sucess.....I really don't see how the Colts are going to get any further unless they fix that...

He makes great decisions 90% of the time- possibly more. but in when facing the 3-4 (Pats, Chargers, Pitt)

He has had problems recognizing what he is seeing, and since the team has no cadence, no flow do to the fact that he is always changing plays and fucking up the game plan they rely on his calls to establish said flow.

Here's the rub: He's not taking into account that the Line can't zone block a pass play. When he checks off to a pass play and noone knows where the pressure is coming from he's taking a risk and putting his line is a position they can't be successful in.

If they relegate his audibles to 3 step drops, and runs against 3-4s he might have more success.



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The hubris and the lack of checks and balances is what keeps both Manning, and what kept Martz from getting to the top..or in Martz case back on top.....

>He makes great decisions 90% of the time- possibly more. but
>in when facing the 3-4 (Pats, Chargers, Pitt)

The Colts have laced some 3-4 defenses in the last couple of years though haven't they??


>He has had problems recognizing what he is seeing, and since
>the team has no cadence, no flow do to the fact that he is
>always changing plays and fucking up the game plan they rely
>on his calls to establish said flow.

But I think he is recognizing what he is seeing...it's just that the responsibility to overcome it has been left totally on his shoulders...and that's a mistake..because as you said..it's the Hubris that is making him think he can overcome it on his own...and he cannot...you can't expect a PLAYER to make the adjustment all the time like that....the coaching staff needs to play a roll in it, if it's obviously clear that the player is going to do or die it on his own...

>
>Here's the rub: He's not taking into account that the Line
>can't zone block a pass play. When he checks off to a pass
>play and noone knows where the pressure is coming from he's
>taking a risk and putting his line is a position they can't be
>successful in.

No...I believe he is taking it into account...he is just of the opinon that he can overcome it on his own and be Mr. Hero QB..and the problem is that he is being allowed to do that.

>
>If they relegate his audibles to 3 step drops, and runs
>against 3-4s he might have more success.
>
honestly....I even think it's deeper than that....whoever is calling their plays...they as an offense need to have the philosophy of establishing a dominance over a defense that is rooted in more than just passing the ball......to be honest...the Colts actually have 3 running backs who could mash it on a defense...so there is no excuse for all of this....

they need to change their philosophy in general.

He can't handle pressure period. How many more years is this loser gonna have to choke for you guys to relize, he's not a great qb.

if losing in the playoffs means someone isn't a great QB..then let's make a list of guys who aren't great QBs...Marino?? Warren Moon??? Tarkington???

I'm not going to say he's not a great QB....

I'm just saying....the problem with the pressure, is that it results in him trying to establish a game plan that is not condusive for winning....him getting sacked and rushed is just the symptom of the bigger problem...the reality is that they shouldn't even be in that situation in the first place...they should establish a power running game against a 3-4, and quick drops against those type of blitzes...

problem is that the guy who would be responsible for making that adjustment is Peyton, and he's not going to do it..because he's gong to try and run it all himself.

but it's getting harder and harder. he's going to be put in the class of great regular season performer or stat king.

>if losing in the playoffs means someone isn't a great
>QB..then let's make a list of guys who aren't great
>QBs...Marino??
NEVER had a squad like manning did this year, but at least made a superbowl and did damage in the playoffs

>Warren Moon???
at least put up numbers in the playoffs
>Tarkington???
went to like 4 super bowls
>
>I'm not going to say he's not a great QB....
it's not about him losing in the playoffs so much as it is HOW he loses. in ANY game where the pressure is on, he fails to be the difference maker. if the colts had scored first, i believe they would have won the game. that you can't even come back and win after going down 7 points speaks volumes about his ability to deal with adverse situations and still make his team successful.

>problem is that the guy who would be responsible for making
>that adjustment is Peyton, and he's not going to do
>it..because he's gong to try and run it all himself.
but HES PROVEN TO NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT BY HIMSELF. OVER AND OVER AND OVER. how many times does he need to see it fail?

bellichick sees this, cowher sees it, and i think the rest of the coaches in the NFL are starting to catch on to it.

Manning only plays great when things happen EXACTLY as they should. Any slight change in execution by any other player on his team, any slight change in defensive pressure, no ground game support, and he folds, completely.

Like people keep sayin, the irony of this is, manning's dumb ass is the one calling the plays.

>I don't think it's choking as much as it's just poor play
>calling...
no offense but did you watch the game today?

>to me choking is not executing...throwing picks
he threw a probable one or at least one that needed a ref to overturn for it not to count against them

>...dropping
>passes
you left out over or underthrowing passes which he did plenty of

>fumbling
oddly enough, only the steelers threw INTs or fumbled

>missing FGs
we needn't address this

>not tackling
i wouldn't call this choking, because teams who miss tackles rarely are "scared" to tackle somebody

>
>That's choking to me..
>
>but the "gameplan" that Peyton is bringing to the table during
>certain times is not condusive for sucess.....I really don't
>see how the Colts are going to get any further unless they fix
>that...
see, the "certain times" when his gameplan is not conducive has regularly taken place in the playoffs against any SEMBLANCE of a good defense. the teams that he's beaten in the playoffs? kc once and denver twice, who had piss poor defenses. i would understand if it was at least teams in the NFC that he never gets to play against, but he knows these teams, sees them all the time. however, when the pressure is really on, things come apart for him. it is more than coincidental that in the playoffs everything falls apart. he lacks mental toughness, which is why since 2002 (before everyone hopped on the nuts) i'd have taken tom brady on my team 100 times out of 99 over womanning.
>

For having to put up with that PB&J.

Y'all got a good coach, good defense, good players... your QB included, but he's too pigheaded to win it the right way.

Here's to hoping Dungy puts his foot down, gets an OC, and that you guys eventually win a Super Bowl when he's still coach. 'Cause if he quits, we'll take him on the Eagles in a heartbeat.

Gruden won a ring with his team

His son died

and he's gonna get blamed for Loser's fuck ups.

when you're an offense first team and your defense holds a playoff team to 21 points, you need to win the game. peyton called a horrible game, ignored Edge (except on the one drive they actually did something), and did nothing to give his defense a chance to catch their breath.

1999: Allowed 19 points to Titans
2000: Allowed 17 points through regulation to Dolphins
2003: Allowed one TD, gave up yards but held them to 5 field goals
2004: Allowed 20 points total, 6 in the first half and 13 through 3 quarters

they played well in the two Denver victories as well...only two times they shitted the bed were against KC and the Jets debacle (but that was an entire TEAM meltdown)

in fact, considering all of that and looking back on Sunday... why was I geeked up about this in the first place?

Peyton choked away every single advantage this year.

What you just presented has just cemented it for me... there's no way I can trust him again.


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he's the one behind the two tight end/3 wide formation, not Peyton

but he also forgets about the run

that aside, on days like today it was clearly Peyton calling every shot

And yes, Vanderjagt's kick looked like it belonged in that Bears-Niners game earlier this year, and the dude has a creepy earring. But I draw your attention to two plays:

2-2-PIT28 (:31) (Shotgun) P.Manning pass incomplete to R.Wayne (B.McFadden).
3-2-PIT28 (:25) (Shotgun) P.Manning pass incomplete to R.Wayne.

The Wayne play, in particular, was an attempt at a home run pass to the corner that McFadden had well-covered. If they go over the middle in the 10-15 yard range and spike it, Vanderjagt has a lot less distance to deal with, and Dallas Clark was ho'ing Steeler coverage and tacklers for most of the day ( 4 for 84 and a touch, uh yeah...). But Manning wanted the glory and made bad calls and decisions and hung Vanderjagt out to dry like Herm did to Doug Brien last year, only with more ego and arrogance.

Regardless, were it not for Brackett and Harper (who needs to give Mewelde a call), Manning isn't even in that situation.

The Colts know that Vanderjagt has lost his range over the past couple years. They have a kickoff specialist now. He's almost 36 and his leg isn't what it used to be. If you want to be stupid and hang your kicker out to dry, that's cool, but YOU should shoulder the blame, and in this case, it's Manning who should shoulder that blame.

>2-2-PIT28 (:31) (Shotgun) P.Manning pass incomplete to R.Wayne
>(B.McFadden).
>3-2-PIT28 (:25) (Shotgun) P.Manning pass incomplete to
>R.Wayne.
>
>The Wayne play, in particular, was an attempt at a home run
>pass to the corner that McFadden had well-covered.

right, they did a pump and go and dude had that shit BLANKETED. time running out, the defense is blitzing also, the middle of the field is open.

he assed out on the 3rd and 16 on prev drive, too. b/c they knew it was 4 down territory, and he throws a fucking 50 yd bomb that was horribly overthrown instead of taking 7 or 8 yards across the middle to prevent 4th &16. harrison and them are nice, but i've seen freddie mitchell, and they are no freddie mitchell.

If they go
>over the middle in the 10-15 yard range and spike it,
>Vanderjagt has a lot less distance to deal with, and Dallas
>Clark was ho'ing Steeler coverage and tacklers for most of the
>day ( 4 for 84 and a touch, uh yeah...). But Manning wanted
>the glory and made bad calls and decisions and hung Vanderjagt
>out to dry like Herm did to Doug Brien last year, only with
>more ego and arrogance.

exactly. he's going for the glory. plus, mfers are blitzing the shit out of you and YOU are calling the routes. howcome you got 6 defenders coming at cha and all your receivers are on 20 yd routes with their backs turned as you get knocked on your ass? you couldn't send edge on a quick out??? wtf???

he blew that shit. he had two potential game tying or winning drives and choked in the most choketastic fashion.

>
>Regardless, were it not for Brackett and Harper (who needs to
>give Mewelde a call), Manning isn't even in that situation.


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sigless for the summer, y'all.

not the kill

that said, fuck Mike Vanderjagt - I'm glad he's not absloved from this whole mess

Oh, that was an ugly ugly miss, don't get me wrong.

I'm just saying, Vanderjagt is not the same guy he was when he first came to Indy.

See, if he is as great as the media hypes him up, then why can't he do well under pressure. Every other "great" QB, player in all sports has done so. From Tiger Woods, Jordan, Montana, Jeter, they all play with enormous amounts of pressure, and their games RISE to the occasion. Peyton, on the other hand, BUCKLES when things get intense. He is a choke artist.

For those that think he is a bust, his O-Line makes the Colts look like All Pro 1st teamers ... if nothing more, this assures Bush as the #1 pick ... any QB that catches heat in the pocket on a consistent basis, looks booty. Get Carr an RB like Bush, w/a wideout like Johnson and the Texans will make noise next year.

What does this have to do with the game today?

Put Peyton on the Texans and they won't improve a lot ... put Carr on the Colts and he'd have done as well or better than Peyton TODAY!

Manning was dancing like the turf was hot ... what was with the happy feet? How do you overlook a top5 RB like Edge when u know the heat is around the corner?

I'm disappointed moreso for Dungy than Peyton, d&mn dude has a heavy burden, and now he has to deal w/a QB that did a mutiny on 4th and 2? Has to answer questions for a weak O-Line? Has to address how his team went 13-0 then lost 3 of the last 4? How they had a bye and still looked like they were playing a preseason game ??? AND, have to grieve the loss of a son!?!?! I feel for him ..

On another note, get EDGE to Philly, w/out trading Westbrook, and we'll see you tramps in the Superbowl next year. No Doubt!

Challenger-

im not really sure.....how exactly does that fix the texans line problems

>For those that think he is a bust, his O-Line makes the Colts
>look like All Pro 1st teamers ... if nothing more, this
>assures Bush as the #1 pick ... any QB that catches heat in
>the pocket on a consistent basis, looks booty. Get Carr an RB
>like Bush, w/a wideout like Johnson and the Texans will make
>noise next year.
>
>What does this have to do with the game today?
>
>Put Peyton on the Texans and they won't improve a lot ... put
>Carr on the Colts and he'd have done as well or better than
>Peyton TODAY!
>
>Manning was dancing like the turf was hot ... what was with
>the happy feet? How do you overlook a top5 RB like Edge when u
>know the heat is around the corner?
>
>I'm disappointed moreso for Dungy than Peyton, d&mn dude has a
>heavy burden, and now he has to deal w/a QB that did a mutiny
>on 4th and 2? Has to answer questions for a weak O-Line? Has
>to address how his team went 13-0 then lost 3 of the last 4?
>How they had a bye and still looked like they were playing a
>preseason game ??? AND, have to grieve the loss of a son!?!?!
>I feel for him ..
>
>On another note, get EDGE to Philly, w/out trading Westbrook,
>and we'll see you tramps in the Superbowl next year. No
>Doubt!
>
>Challenger-

Actually, it will not so much fix the line (that has to be down via free agency or future drafts or trades); however, if you don't have a running game, your o-line has no chance. Bush is an 'indirect' fix, temporarily.

For example,

No running game allows the defense to play single coverage in the secondary and rush 8 people ALL game, especially if the line is weak. More sacks for Carr, the shorter his career. Dude was sacked 60+ times last season!

With the 'threat' of a running game, you get play-action, a run to the corner or up the gut of the defense and even if you don't, just having the possibility of that happening can keep a defense honest. Why Peyton chose not to use Edge more, I have no idea!

With no RB, V.Young could get seriously hurt, considering how much he likes to run. Get Bush, along with Carr and A.Johnson, you get a lot of possibilities offensively. (ie: Maybe no huddle like the Bills of the 90s, Play-Action, Less pressure to the QB which should open up Carr to excel). Not to mention, Bush can catch, punt return and run.

How could he not be the best fit for the Texans? How did Peyton not recognize the opportunity? ??

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The Bears may have lost but Rex handled the pressure. Face it, some people got it, some people don't and Manning don't got it.

Please, save me that bullshit.

I mean damn give him a break. Shit Manning wouldn't of done any better but go head bring that loser to the bears.

Manning won't do shit to help the Bears. Trust me on that.

Trust me, I HAVE seen enough of Peyton Manning over the years to know that he'd be AT LEAST a slight upgrade from Rex Grossman.

he got out coached by bill fucking cowher... that is pathetic

Dungy did a better job at Tampa with Shawn King and Brad Johnson.

But he didn't coach a great game. I would have definitely conceded a safety on the punt that led to Pittsburgh's 3rd TD.

peyton played like shit, no doubt. but do you blame peyton for the steelers leading 14-0 in the first quarter?

the defense came out flat and soft and got picked apart by ben "wet-noodle-for-a-right-arm" roethlisberger.

then cowher just sat on the lead and played ball control.

dungy gets no responsibility?

i mean the preemptive pleas copped for dungy here are ridiculous.

Bottom line Peyton has been a choke artist his entire football career... all the way back to T-ball. He cannot adjust to heavy blitzing, period. Once the defender gets a hand on him, he's done. It's Manning making 98% of the offensive calls... not Dungy. Denfensively, the Colts played a good game... 14 points in the 1st qtr and 7 for the remainder of the game, is damn good football from a defensive standpoint. But, I'm sure had they won, you would have given Dungy the credit, right?

This weeks "I should be pimp slapped for saying this" goes to:

BarTek: if you refuse to sell drugs to black folks... The fiends are going to buy from white folks... Nothing is going to change... It's not the dealer's fault...

that peyton is the play caller bullshit is the biggest plea of all time. so that means he was calling all the right plays in the regular season but he just lost that ability in the playoffs?

step back from the hate for a second and look at how the game transpired.

it's not difficult for a defense to figure out what the opposing offense is going to do when they're down 14-0. they just teed off.

dungy brings in this "overhauled" D with that soft ass cover two and gets picked apart by a weak-armed quarterback because they were expecting pittsburgh to just run the ball down their throats. pittsburgh games out with the surprise passing attack early. indy doesn't adjust (read: dungy doesn't adjust). before you know it, colts are down two touchdowns.

THEN pittsburgh settles into their ball-control style. their defense plays great, indy's O plays horribly. it's not tough to figure out.

dungy got out-coached, plain and simple. and peyton was equally terrible.

They fucked up in the 1st, yes, adjusted, yes... Peyton, no adjustment, blamed the offensive line like a certified bitch made punk hoe ass muhfucker would... and walked away. But go ahead keep coppin' peas cause Peyton took the L from you homie.


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no pleas copped whatsoever on my part

and blaming his o-line was bitch made. although, he's right: they did have protection problems.

tiki's comments were bitch made too. didn't see much about that up in here

there are three other books written by Salinger, and all of them are better than Franny and Zooey.

maybe Raise high was not as good Franny and Zooey but Nine stories and catcher were clearly superior.

>maybe Raise high was not as good Franny and Zooey but Nine
>stories and catcher were clearly superior.

to tell you the truth they all paled in comparison to Catcher in the Rye.......Saying Salinger wrote a book better than that is like is like saying Kerouac wrote a better book than On the Road.

well yeah, but nine stories would have been a classic if catcher had never come out

>so that means he was calling all the right plays
>in the regular season but he just lost that ability in the
>playoffs?

that's why it's called "choking"

.

has he ever made it past round 2?

hes a good guy but i think he's just too damn soft.

dick vermeil is a pussy but even he gets aggressive.

twice

i thought those buc teams either won the wildcard then lost the divisional or got the bye week and lost the divisional

im wrong

beat Denver then KC at Arrowhead before losing to New England

Tampa Bay beat Washington in the divisionals before losing to the Rams in 1999

my bad

well...either way, he gets gay when trailing in big games.

because I had gotten used to kicking their ass in the playoffs every year.

Peyton is a bitch.....but Dungy's not a great postseason coach by any stretch.

I fully endorse it. I'm glad the Steelers helped foster it.

I'm sick and tired of this clown and his audibles. Its his fault that the protections wasn't there because he calls the plays. The media is about to give him a favre pass on that. And let's see if they go after him for calling out his O line the way that they rightfully went after tiki for calling out his coaches.

Thankfully we won't have to face your Pats because Bellicheck owns Cowher.

he needs to learn to read 3-4 defenses, basically. they KILL him...LOL

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Wizard of Oz Contacts Manning Family, Says He Can Help Sons Find New Hearts
-CNN Headline tomorrow morning

LOL...

with fairness to eli, he seems to have bigger cajones than his brother already, he just was asked to do too much on this team so early.
the giants were just overmatched and didn't put him in a good position to make plays. this was like the first game the steelers let ben set it off from jump, usually they're sparing with him tossing it early.
big brother DEFINITELY is tinman status, but little bro has only put down two seasons, he deserves more time before he gets such an unfavorable label.

some of the peyton shitting is outta control here but it IS a holiday!

doesn't mean he'll never win the big one.

a huge play to keep em in it, damn you must be pissed after that finish but shit that was one fortituous bounce after another, the luck has to even out sometime.

like the 42nd time you bang your head against the wall, it loses some impact

and the game was over when Polamalu intercepted him

how much of a fan are you of the colts? because you sound like you expect failure each and every time from them. as if if they won the super bowl, your reaction would be "it's about time" without actual elation.

you just seem to express that you are a fan of them out of obligation but that you'd rather not.

this is like your 3rd day posting here

>this is like your 3rd day posting here
look here you opportunistic little cum stain. answer my fucking question. otherwise stay shutting the fuck up.
just because you think i've only been reading these boards for three days 1) doesn't mean you are correct 2) doesn't mean that my question wasn't well placed

i wasn't attacking you i was asking you a question. this post is about hating peyton manning but if you wanna add yourself to this fire hop in bitch.

anywho, STFU

>anywho, STFU
so in other words, you're a stupid bitch who can't answer questions and stays hating on his team.


nice

are or what you've done'/A.I. crossin' up Jordan-type shit.

I felt humiliated when he called me a cum stain.

how will I ever post again without answering his questions!

take this as your first warning...

>take this as your first warning...

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please keep him. i don't want him in philly.

and when hes not on his game, like today, its not going to work.

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So why is Peyton getting the blame for the defense giving up 2 LONG scoring drives in the first quarter?

cowher switched up his team's steez in the first quarter and totally caught the colts off guard.

then he just sat back, played aggressive d and ball control offense.

peyton deserves the hate. but dungy also just got out-coached by cowher.

>cowher switched up his team's steez in the first quarter and
>totally caught the colts off guard.
>
>then he just sat back, played aggressive d and ball control
>offense.
>
>peyton deserves the hate. but dungy also just got out-coached
>by cowher.


co-sign. cowher & lebeau dominated the colts staff, from dungy on down. in the first half roethlisberger carved that "new and improved" defense UP

how in the hell does a number one offense in the regular season or top three OFFENSE not score more than 3 points in one half?

The same shit last year against the patriots the score was 3-6 in the third the defense did their job.

how are you going to argue that a good defense doesn't trump a great offense in the playoffs when it just happened in this game?

Look how the Skins held Seattle below their scoring and yardage averages. If the offense had just been decent, Seattle likely would have lost.

Or wait until next week when Carolina beats Seattle (with it's top 5 offense).

A good defense will hold a good offense below average. Pittsburgh's D did it's job... Indy's didn't (and hasn't for years).

>Look how the Skins held Seattle below their scoring and
>yardage averages. If the offense had just been decent, Seattle
>likely would have lost.

but they didn't, and neither did Chicago, so that just proves that a great defense by itself does not win playoff games

>>Look how the Skins held Seattle below their scoring and
>>yardage averages. If the offense had just been decent,
>Seattle
>>likely would have lost.
>
>but they didn't, and neither did Chicago, so that just proves
>that a great defense by itself does not win playoff games
>

And the Skins did hold the Seattle below their regular season averages. Not by much (about 50 fewer yeards and 8 fewer pts) but enough to bring Seattle down to the league averages. As usual though, the Skins offense fell back to it's below average performance... hence the final score.


Anyway, if you check the stats, Pitt and Indy are almost identical in terms of stats (Colts scored 3 more pts/game and gave up 1 fewer). Whether you wanna characterize it as an offensive failure for being held below average or a defensive failure for allowing Pitt to score above their average, those teams were actually very equal.

from Mike Peterson's and Marcus Washington's paychecks, both playing at high levels for other teams now

and I agreed that Washington held Seattle below their averages - who cares though, they lost the game because of a terribly inept offense

just like the Colts lost the game due to a terribly inept offense that score THREE points in three quarters

that's unacceptable for ANY team

stop trying to even partly blame the defense

>from Mike Peterson's and Marcus Washington's paychecks, both
>playing at high levels for other teams now

>So why is Peyton getting the blame for the defense giving up
>2 LONG scoring drives in the first quarter?
because
1) the defense intercepted ben roethlisberger and the colts did a three and out
2) the defense got the offense the ball more than enough times for them to step up and MAKE SOME FRICKING PLAYS.

with an offense like the Colts have, then where do you spend your money? Yes, their D gave up big plays, but a top flight offense like that shouldn't get completely shut down.

as Manning, Harrison, Edge, Wayne, Stokley and Diem?

But the problem is defensive coordinators found a way to deal with teams like that a la Belichik. They really need to invest in defense to get to the next level. But at the same time, the defense can't stay out on the field all game against playoff teams. That's murder. So I don't know what to say. It seems the problem lies in the offensive coordinator and Manning.

the OFFENSE was the problem on Sunday...3 fucking points in 3 quarters

oh, so they need better defenders because if they had a good defense the Steelers would've only scored 17?

lol

I was trying to say on one hand, it looks like they need to invest in defense, but when you look at it, the real problem with the defense is that every time in the playoffs, they end up having to stay on the field all game. I think I just worded myself wrong.

i.e. defensive players are more replaceable than offensive ones, so there aren't many teams we're folks are sinking big money into their defensive players.

that's why cornerbacks and defensive tackles remain among the highest paid players in the league

the Colts are built as an offense-first team, so when the offense can't score 20 points than it is THEIR fault and THEIR fault only for a loss

: )

And Dungy's getting raked over the coals. Granted he does deserve some blame for not adjusting, but womanning has consistently failed to win a MEANINGFUL game.

Despite the fact that people are saying it was wack for Manning to call out his O-Line like he did, they won't attribute it to something being wrong with him as A PERSON. Look what happens when T.O. is critical of other players on his team (granted, I think he does go too far with his criticism) he is literally made to look like a villain, like he is the Devil himself. Peyton Manning is a cat that had his whole life handed to him on a silver platter...his father raised and groomed his sons to be professional athletes. They had nothing to worry about in life but preparing for and playing football games. And when the going gets tough, they fall apart. Eli gets a pass because he is such a young player. Peyton, doesn't get a pass. He is constantly being propped up as the best QB in football. We constantly get indoctrinated with how "smart" of a football player he is. We constantly hear about how he is unrivaled when it comes to being a student of the game. He runs the offense, (Lord knows I'm tired of hearing about it, too) so when this offense of HIS doesn't perform, HE should take the blame. But what does he do? He rips his line, and does so PUBLICLY. If that had been Terrell "Black Uppity Nigger" Owens, we would have been hearing about his selfishness, his divisiveness, how his very presence is a "cancer" in the locker room, his massive charachter flaws...all of that. As much criticism as Peyton is taking today, nobody has or is going to take shots at him as a person. Nobody is going to call him a "selfish punk", or a "locker room cancer".

The Doc hates that this all has happened because now he has to give props to a player and team he hates in comparison. But yeah, just like all of Team Favre is not going to get called out on their "unsportsmanlike" conduct, the actual Brett Favre, Peyton Manning types who get by on so much assholia will never be as vilified in the press as the TOs, Randy Mosses, and Chad Johnsons of the world, and you know why...

there's mad character flaws in there, true?

and the thing is, anyone who has ever played or coached knows that ADVERSITY reveals character. i *just* got finished telling my little league bball team that the other night. they lost by 20 and wanted to bitch all up and i was like, NO. (*fact is, i had drafted the best pg in the whole league and he couldn't play, and my biggest big man on a team full of midgets also is gone for the season, and my best other pg wasn't there and the only one who could halfway handle the ball is the biggest gunner i've ever seen in life and i've vowed NEVER to let him play point again. -- anyway, i told them that the things that say something about you as a player and a person are how you handle it when nothing is going your way -- do you criticize your teammates? do you pout and give up on plays? i set the table for the rest of the season to ignore the scoreboard and go out there and play their behinds off by MY standards, whether it shows up in the W/L column or not).

but back to peyton manning, MBB (Manufactured By Bitches)... this dude was choking before dungy ever got there. that does not absolve dungy of culpability for the loss, but even as they were 13-0 everyone talked about the squad like dungy was responsible for the defense and peyton was the de facto offensive coordinator, true? 18 pts from a team with arguably the greatest assortment of offensive weapons EVER??????????

that is failure. "point blank, peri-odd" (c) phonte.

he had two drives under 2 min in which he could have won the game, and had three timeouts, and took two horrible sacks. when HE's calling the plays.

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play in the NFL. It's not like they just give multimillion dollar contracts to just anyone.

to get a look. and btw, i'd read that his brother who doesn't play was a hell of a WR. but he had some kind of career ending injury either in h.s. or early in college. otherwise he'd prolly be in the L, also.

but in terms of having a leg up on the competition -- having a father who could school you on techniques and strategy to be a pro qb. PLUS having crazy networking to get you into the right hs, right college, etc. he's had every opportunity to shine. he's been very good. but a lot of it is to be expected, given his background.


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is meant to mean that you are just given something that you don't have to work for, an unearned reward - atleast that's what I understand it to mean and a google search confirmed it. Trust fund babies, for example, are handed livelihood on a silver platter. I don't see how any professional QB could not earn his own life. If they just rewarded all NFL players' sons with starting jobs in the NFL, then there wouldn't even be a reason for these older dudes to put their jerseys away. Plus his dad was a mediocre QB, why would his sonds get rewarded over better QBs with children? Fact is, no one can really give you anything in this life, you are only responsible for yourself. His dad taught him how to play QB, just as any father should teach his children how to survive in the world. The guy broke the single season TD record, how did his dad give him that on a silver platter?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/060116

There are some people who will call Peyton Manning the dreaded "C" word today. Yeah … "choker." But calling him a choker simply isn't fair, because Peyton Manning is far more than someone who fails when it counts year after year after year.

For instance, he's also someone who throws his teammates under the bus, which -- it goes without saying -- is something every quarterback and team leader should try to do whenever possible. (Are you listening, Tom Brady? This is why you don't set regular season passing records! You need to be less of a team player!) Or not.

Peyton Manning
Looks like there was a little trouble with the protection, huh Peyton?
By now I'm sure you've all heard or read about Manning's postgame comments Sunday, in which he said: "I'm trying to be a good teammate here … let's just say we had some problems with protection."

Sure, it may sound as though Manning stabbed his linemen in the back -- or in the knee, in the Colts' case -- but I say cut him some slack. The guy is frustrated about coming up short every season. All I want for him is to learn from his mistakes and take more responsibility for his own failings when the Colts are inevitably eliminated next season.

That's why I've put together a few team-friendly alternatives he can use the next time he hears the words, "I'm trying to be a good teammate here" come out of his mouth. I'm hopeful they'll be of use to him.

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'll try to imagine what it's like to be imperfect."

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'm going to buy my liquored-up, idiot kicker an entire case of vodka."

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'll consider retaining Tony Dungy as my associate head coach next season."

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'm taking the whole team on tour with Kenny Chesney."

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I won't ask my daddy to get my offensive line traded."

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so next year I might even run a play or two that my offensive coordinator calls."

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'm going to let Tee Martin start for me in the playoffs from now on."

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … but instead I'll just be myself."

These examples at the end of the article are fantastic.
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'll try to
>imagine what it's like to be imperfect."
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'm going to buy
>my liquored-up, idiot kicker an entire case of vodka."
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'll consider
>retaining Tony Dungy as my associate head coach next season."
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'm taking the
>whole team on tour with Kenny Chesney."
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I won't ask my
>daddy to get my offensive line traded."
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so next year I might
>even run a play or two that my offensive coordinator calls."
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … so I'm going to let
>Tee Martin start for me in the playoffs from now on."
>
>"I'm trying to be a good teammate here … but instead I'll just
>be myself."

i think i'll teach that course as a freshman seminar seminar.

I might take it and then transfer to get one of those Shaq master's degrees after it.

With special guest lecturers from OKP Sports - you can get your BA in 1 year in General Hate Studies -- tuition - $25,000.

I've quoted the relevant paragraph but you can see the article here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/15/AR2006011501052.html

"Manning hinted after the game that the Colts had protection breakdowns, but the fact is Manning wasn't close on many of his passes, and he helped contribute to false starts by changing plays at the line. As great as Manning is -- he holds the NFL record for passing touchdowns in a season -- he again was a big failure in a big game, just as he was for four years against Florida when he was at the University of Tennessee, and just as he has been in the NFL, losing in various ways to the Patriots before beating them this season."


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He thinks wins in the League gonna bring back them losses to UF. That he can erase that shit- that Cutcliffe n 'em held 'em back. Funny how they won the NC with him gone.

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-adande16jan16,1,354080.column?coll=la-headlines-sports

Manning Loses Blame Game Too
J.A. Adande

January 16, 2006

INDIANAPOLIS — Whether you're a good loser or a bad loser, the problem is you still go down as a loser.

There has never been a more sympathetic figure in defeat than Indianapolis Colt Coach Tony Dungy after his team ran out of chances against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday. But his quarterback, Peyton Manning, lost points by his willingness to point fingers everywhere but at himself.

Different vibes, same unavoidable conclusion. They didn't get it done in the playoffs. Again.

Manning has spent the last seven years as one of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL, yet he has an out-of-whack ratio of Pro Bowl spots to Super Bowl trips: six to none. Dungy has shared Manning's frustration in Indianapolis for the last four years, and his inability to get a playoff team to the Super Bowl reaches back to the previous five years in Tampa Bay.

This year the Colts' path to Super Bowl glory seemed as wide open as the road in a car commercial. All they had to do was win two games in the RCA Dome. Another dome awaited them in Detroit.

As an added bonus their arch-nemesis, New England, had been eliminated the day before in Denver.

Yet even on a day when the Colts kept receiving more chances than they deserved, they could not capitalize. They caught a break when an apparent Troy Polamalu interception was somehow ruled an incompletion after review. Then Jerome Bettis coughed up the ball at the one-yard line on his way to an apparent game-clinching touchdown in the final 80 seconds. But Mike Vanderjagt missed badly on a game-tying field goal from 46 yards and the Steelers prevailed, 21-18.

Manning said the Colts needed to "try to make peace with the football gods."

In that case, Manning should start by offering himself on the altar.

The one consistency in the Colts' recent playoff losses has been Manning's subpar performance. This time the numbers read 22 for 38 for 290 yards and a touchdown. And yet I haven't heard him accept his equal share of the blame, or offer a satisfactory explanation for why he is not at his best when the Colts need him the most.

He let Vanderjagt, the erstwhile "idiot kicker," off the hook, saying, "It's one play. It's not the reason the Colts didn't win this game."

But he sold out his offensive line in his response to a question about Pittsburgh's pass rush that pressured him all day and sacked him five times.

"I'm trying to be a good teammate here," Manning said, choosing his words carefully. "Let's just say we had some problems in protection. I'll give Pittsburgh credit for the blitzes and their rush. Those guys rushed. But we did have some protection problems."

Leave that to the linemen. They were more than willing to fess up.

"Up front, we didn't do a very good job to begin the game," center Jeff Saturday said.

See? Why couldn't Manning say something similar about his two-for-six start in the first quarter?

Oh, Manning quickly took credit for drawing up what he called a "dirt play" that resulted in a two-point conversion pass to Reggie Wayne that brought the Colts to within three points.

But tell me if this sounds like an acceptable mea culpa for his playoff shortcomings:

"Certainly it has not been for a lack of effort due to my part," Manning said. "I've never stepped onto the field or walked off the field saying I could have done more to prepare for this game. There's certainly throws I'd like to have back or series you'd like to have back, or games I wish I would have played better."

Dungy's team was out of sync on offense in the first quarter and couldn't stop the Steelers on defense, when the visitors quickly lowered the decibel level in the RCA Dome by jumping to a 14-0 lead. The Colts were penalized nine times for 67 yards, including a false start that moved them back from third and goal at the Pittsburgh one.

You almost didn't want to see Dungy go through the usual playoff-loss grilling after what he endured last month, when his 18-year-old son, James, died of an apparent suicide.

Dungy displayed the same poise and grace Sunday that he had in his first public comments after his son's death. And it was easy to see why even a playoff loss this bitter didn't seem so devastating to him.

"Personally, a couple of big disappointments," Dungy said. "Obviously, this one doesn't rank anywhere close to the last ones. From my standpoint, it's disappointing. My job is to get this team to play well and we didn't quite do that today. But I know we'll bounce back."

He didn't use the rust from the bye week, or even the extraordinary circumstances of the leg wound cornerback Nick Harper suffered when his wife allegedly stabbed him Saturday, as excuses.

He did salute the team's fight-to-the-end mentality, which was evident in the season's first loss to San Diego in December and again when Gary Brackett forced the Bettis fumble near the end Sunday.

Yes, these Colts had heart. And Dungy's a great coach, Manning's a great quarterback.

But you don't get credit for those qualities in the playoffs. All you can say is Dungy and Manning lost.

It's becoming as much a part of the postseason as a Don Cheadle ad.

J.A. Adande can be reached at j.a.adande@latimes.com. To read more by Adande, go to latimes.com/adandeblog.


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When I explained how he was selfish, and he calls too many of his own plays, and that I want to call the plays if I'm the coach, ya'll CLOWNED.

who

is

laughing

now?



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but if ppl couldn't see that peyton is a big game loser, fuck they're some blind people

which included David Carr and Trent Dilfer but not Peyton Manning or Donovan McNabb and featured Jake Delhomme as the best QB in the league......to me those are all still clownable. If the point was that Peyton is bitchmade, most of us realized that already. Even in the post-game wake of yesterday though, most sane people would still say he's a top 10 quarterback in the league though.

That was the top ten Qb's that can play for ME. And I stick by that list. McNabb SUCKS, Manning would have to play MY way, and he won't so he SUCKS.

I NEVER said Delhomme was the number 1 Qb. He was my first choice if I was building a team cus he's cheaper than Brady.

I'd be running it 40-50 times a game anyway. I don't need a whole lot of bells and whistles.

That shit is like owning a Jag sports car in the City. For what? What purpose does it serve when you'd be better off with a scooter?

Ya'll are some REAL liars. CONSTANTLY lying on me. I am VERY specific with my language-even the broken language (save for my chronic spelling issues).

LIAR!

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I followed him before he came to syracuse and Graves and him was gonna battle for the position. I loved him at the cuse. If he could run that offense which at the time was considered more complexed than many NFL offenses, I felt he could do anything. He has all the tools, plus he was tough. HE was battle hardened playing against tough Miami, VaTech, and West Virginia teams.

I had a bet with an old dormmate that he would win a superbowl before Manning cus I felt Manning was a loser, and McNabb only lost cus his surrounding talent pretty much fell off after Kevin, Conrad, and Dar Dar.

Then he does what I expect of him in the league right up until he finally beat my Giants. I remember LAFFIN at philly fans booing him thinking that he would show them.

Well, I guess his superbowl was finally beating my Giants cus since then he has been SHIT.

No accuracy, locking in on Wr's, and does not make reads.

Shit- he dont run no more either.

That shit is like having a dairy cow that don't produce milk.

Until he get's his mind right, fuck a McNabb. He's no more useful than Digging up and suiting up Otto Graham.



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*makes sweet tender love to this post*
*cuddles with this post*
*surprises this post with a puppy for christmas*
*brings this post chicken soup when it's sick*
*misses super bowl to attend dinner with this post's parents*
*jumps on oprah's couch to declare my love for this post*

his o line let pitt put so much pressure on him.

his kicker missed the kick.

harper got tackled by roethlesberger....

what did peyton do wrong?

and isn't checking off to a hot route or calling draw plays and screens to disrupt the blitz, then "letting" pittsburgh put pressure on him is his fault.

I just wanted to be a part of it.

I think we've found the issue to unite over, people.

Jew to Gentile.

David Duke to Farrakhan

Basaglia to B9


We all stand in harmony in this gracious moment.


In honor of this post, I'll try to be a better, kinder, human being.

*points out OKP's "overlooking" of Tiki's post game comments and ruins your moment*

lol jk

i feel you tho. dude is 100% bitch made.

we have united fans from the nfc south, nfc east, and all them other conferences. we have put aside our past differences, our long held, bitter enmities, and clasped hands around the Colts Stolen Superbowl Tree to sing "Bahoo Dooray, Peyton is a bitch".

join me:

Bahoo, Dooray,
Boohoo, Poor play,
Peyton Manning IS bitchmade,

Bahoo, Dooray,
Choked Once More-a
repeat performance of his bitch play

peyton is manufactured by bitches
when his uni isn't clean he switches,
throwing teammates under buses all over the place,
but we love to see that manning face,

bahoo dooray,
boohoo (c) Mor-a
peyton, peyton
IS BITCHMADE

ENCORE!

*brought back to live and dead again*

SPLENDID!!!!!!



>we have united fans from the nfc south, nfc east, and all
>them other conferences. we have put aside our past
>differences, our long held, bitter enmities, and clasped hands
>around the Colts Stolen Superbowl Tree to sing "Bahoo Dooray,
>Peyton is a bitch".
>
>join me:
>
>Bahoo, Dooray,
>Boohoo, Poor play,
>Peyton Manning IS bitchmade,
>
>Bahoo, Dooray,
>Choked Once More-a
>repeat performance of his bitch play
>
>peyton is manufactured by bitches
>when his uni isn't clean he switches,
>throwing teammates under buses all over the place,
>but we love to see that manning face,
>
>bahoo dooray,
>boohoo (c) Mor-a
>peyton, peyton
>IS BITCHMADE
>
>


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in that Raiders game.

Now even the fans of Team Favre are in this.

early this season.

Brings a tear to the eye.

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i guess it's official than.

yeah, it hurt my pockets a little, but you're supposed to sacrifice and think of others on Peyton Is A Bitch Day. plus, the fact that this is an official product, carrying the PMMBB** label just makes it extra special.

January 15th is only one day, but the spirit of peyton lives on throughout the week. i'm gonna go blame some shit on my coworkers. peace.

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peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

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we've really done something special here people, i'm proud to be a part of it.

...Payton need to learn how to use the word "WE"

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

"Peyton Manning is the biggest bitch in the history of sports"

I agree 100%, and it's almost funny how a lot of people, including myself never really fully realized it until sunday's game. I mean he has a history of being a choke artist back when he couldn't beat the Gators and the Ole ball coach, had him by the balls in ever outing!.
I was particularly upset with the loss by the colts for the simple fact that, the Colts couldn't man up enough and win this game not just for themselves but for your head coach. I mean how much more motivation do you need than to want to get your head coach, who had such a tragic loss, to the superbowl. The offensive line couldn't protect, Payton couldn't find his open recievers, how the fuck you throw to marvin harrison twice the whole game??? How in the HELL do you only give run edgerrin james significantly for one quarter! Especially considering the fact that he was having success running against their defense when they did give him the ball. Tony Dungy(if he doesn't retire which he is probably contemplating) should consider taking the play calling out of Paytons hand's!

We also had protection problems.

Sincerely,

Shawn Kemp's condoms

>We also had protection problems.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Shawn Kemp's condoms

***CHOKING***

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peeeyton, though. he doesn't look like he's having fun out there. except when he's doing the pre-snap chicken dance.

peace & blessings,

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sigless for the summer, y'all.

there's enough quality hate out for the both of them.


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But I'm penitent. I've raelized my sins, and my heart is pure.

So am I welcomed into the wonderful world of Peyton Hatin?

Because that whiny horse-faced bitch sucks.

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we still got plenty of work to do. to make jan 15th official, we need to make it to 500 posts before weeks end to make it truly classic.


does anyone have a link of the mastercard commercial they shot after the game? word is it showed outtakes from womanning's commercials then flashed: not being perfect-PRICELESS

whatever feelings there are for him, there's no place for this in this post. this is ALLLL about #18

give vick peyton's o-line and just reggie wayne.

all i'm sayin about it, and i'm movin on.

when I think about how much Peyton choked this time and how much of a post-game bitch he was about it, I become furious

damn shame, this team is a king cobra w/o a head

¿Usted está enojado porque los cuellos y las muñecas de los Patriotas chispean y brillan?

Llore

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Oye Guillermo, consulta La Lección

the good beer is spilling everywhere!

>the good beer is spilling everywhere!

get mad! be a fan! you deserve it.

1999 – In Manning’s second year in the league he led the Colts to a 13-3 record and an AFC East title while averaging 26.4 PPG in the regular season. In Indy’s first playoff game the Colts hosted wildcard-game winner Tennessee. The Indy defense played well, surrendering just 19 points to a solid offense that averaged 24.5 points per game. But Manning, at home in the dome, put just 16 points on the board, the team’s third lowest output of the season, while completing just 19 of 43 passes for 227 yards and zero touchdowns. Manning’s 60.9 passer rating was his lowest of the entire season. Result: Manning chokes. Colts lose, 19-16.

2000 – The Colts went 10-6 behind Manning’s 33 touchdown passes and an offense that averaged 26.8 PPG in the regular season. Indy went to Miami in the wildcard round and its defense played very well, intercepting Jay Fiedler three times and surrendering just 23 points in a game decided in overtime. But Manning struggled against the Dolphins and, in a game that lasted more than 70 minutes, was a non-factor. He completed barely 50 percent of his passes (17 for 32) for just 194 yards and a touchdown. The Colts generated 11 points off Fiedler’s interceptions but put a total of just 17 on the board, 10 points fewer than their regular-season average. It was Indy’s second lowest scoring output of the season. Result: Manning chokes. Colts lose, 23-17, in overtime.

2002 – The Colts went 10-6 and drew a gimme in the wildcard round: a 9-7 Jets team with a paper-thin defense that surrendered 336 points that year (Indy boasted the better D, surrendering 313 points). Manning played the single worst statistical game of his entire career (14 for 31, 137 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs and a career-low 31.2 passer rating) and failed to put a single point on the board. Result: Manning chokes. Colts lose, 41-0.

2003 – The Colts went 12-4 in the regular season and scored 27.9 PPG. Manning kept it going in Indy’s first two playoff games and was spectacular leading 41-10 and 38-31 victories over Denver and Kansas City. But Manning, facing foul weather and a good defense, returned to his historic postseason form in the AFC title game against New England. Indy’s D again played well under postseason pressure, stifling the Patriots in the red zone and forcing them to settle for five field goals. But Manning tossed four interceptions and posted the third lowest passer rating of his entire career (35.5). Result: Manning chokes. Colts lose, 24-14.

2004 – The Colts again went 12-4 in the regular season, this time scoring 522 points (32.6 PPG) and entering the playoffs a seemingly unstoppable offensive juggernaut with the fifth-highest scoring offense in NFL history. Manning, of course, set numerous regular season records. Most notably, he tossed 49 touchdown passes while shattering the single-season passer rating record, with a mark of 121.1. It all took a familiar turn for the worse in the playoffs. In a divisional game at New England, the Colts mustered just 3 points – their lowest offensive output since the 2002 playoff loss to the Jets. Once again, Manning played his very worst game of the season in the playoffs, completing 27 of 42 passes for 238 yards with 0 TDs and 1 INT and a passer rating of 69.3, his lowest of the year. Result: Manning chokes. Colts lose, 20-3.

2005 - Peyton Manning couldn't get comfortable against the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense Sunday. Then he had to squirm through the latest round of questions about another playoff failure.
After his Indianapolis Colts lost 21-18 to the Steelers, at home no less, Manning stared into the cameras and tried to explain the disappointment of knowing that another promising season had slipped away without a trip to the Super Bowl."All I know is to keep working, to come back next year and be a better quarterback, a better leader," he said. "You get tired of saying that after every playoff loss because pretty soon, you start running out of years."
Clearly, this loss was more frustrating to Manning, now 3-6 in the postseason. It was a blown chance, perhaps his best yet of reaching the Super Bowl.Manning and the Colts opened 13-0 to earn the AFC's top seed and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. And with New England already eliminated, the two-time MVP finally seemed primed to take Indianapolis all the way.Three weeks of rest were also supposed to make Manning stronger, and the Colts healthier.
But Indy (14-3) didn't play well, and Manning hardly looked like himself until he nearly rallied the Colts in the fourth quarter.
The sharp, accurate passes that have defined Manning's career were missing early. Instead, he was plagued by overthrows, wide throws and heavy pressure. He finished 22-of-38 for 290 yards with one touchdown, five sacks and several hurries. Afterward, he grudgingly accepted it for what it was -- another season of failing to meet expectations. RESULT..............MANNING CHOKES.....LMAO

That's it right there.

THATS WHY THEY CALL HIM THE PUNISHER SON!

a choker chain*.

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

Nice synopsis there.

How many more shots does he get?


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I wish I still had the link. They were breaking down why Brady is better than Manning and bascially they always thought he (Manning) was a loser so him choking in all these games didn't shock them.

if you look at every playoff game except the blowout to the Jets, the Colts defense has doing its job.

of course, even some people in this thread are blaming the defense, so until they pitch a shutout I guess they'll always take blame...

Through all my years of Manning hate, I never stopped to think about the Colts D til now.

as a Naptown resident I watched all them games, and before you turn Petyon into Kerry Collins and turn the Colts defense into The 85 Bears, please realize the you could drive Mack Trucks thru the holes in the Colts D. We would get beasted by the run on the regular and that happened with the Tennesse playoff game as well as the Miami one.

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>as a Naptown resident I watched all them games, and before
>you turn Petyon into Kerry Collins and turn the Colts defense
>into The 85 Bears, please realize the you could drive Mack
>Trucks thru the holes in the Colts D. We would get beasted by
>the run on the regular and that happened with the Tennesse
>playoff game as well as the Miami one.


When did I ever say the Colts D was as good as the 85 Bears? Come on dude. All I said was that the Colts D wasn't as bad as people thought. Hell they kept the offense in every game except the Jets game. Take for instance the past 2 years when the Colts D held NE to 3 points at the half and the Steelers to 14 points. I mean of course you'll be able to drive mack trucks thru the holes of the Colts D when the BEST OFFENSE IN THE NFL stays going 3 and outs. Just read my post COLD HARD FACTS. Face it, ya boy's a LOSER!

>When did I ever say the Colts D was as good as the 85 Bears?
>Come on dude. All I said was that the Colts D wasn't as bad as
>people thought. Hell they kept the offense in every game
>except the Jets game. Take for instance the past 2 years when
>the Colts D held NE to 3 points at the half and the Steelers
>to 14 points. I mean of course you'll be able to drive mack
>trucks thru the holes of the Colts D when the BEST OFFENSE IN
>THE NFL stays going 3 and outs. Just read my post COLD HARD
>FACTS. Face it, ya boy's a LOSER!


Petyon is the reason and the ONLY reason we lost on Sunday. But all this revisionsist history is not necessary.

The Tennesse game, did Eddie George not score the go ahead TD UNTOUCHED for like 60 yards?

The Miami game, didnt some no name running back from Fort Wayne Indiana rack up like 200 yards? Our defense sucked. Point blank


And its funny how when we lose, Peyton has the best offense of all time, but when we winning, niggaz are naming The Rams, Vikings, Chiefs and every other offense they can as the best. Do everything you can to withhold credit and everything you can to make an argument for blame.

Peyton screwed us this year, and if you look in the MVP posts I was vehemently against him getting MVP this year cuz he was sucking for large parts of the year.

I'm just saying chill with the revisionist mess, and everyone who has a rational thought aint copping pleas. Ya'll niggaz are like the fricking media in the piece....


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on that Manning throwback. I'm going big letters so you can understand. IF YOU KEEP GOING 3 AND OUTS, THE DEFENSE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP THE OFFENSE FOR THE WHOLE GAME. What the fuck don't you understand? THE DEFENSE GAVE MANNING A CHANCE TO WIN WITH THE BETTIS FUMBLE.....I mean come on and then didn't the Colts D score more against Miami(in the playoffs) than Manning and the Colts offense? Don't even let me speak on how they held the Pats almost SCORELESS during the both first halfs in the playoffs. Dude you just sour cause ya hero is a LOSER.

1st it was well it's his first time in the playoffs.

2nd it was well at least he went into overtime so now he's ready for the SB. They fire Jim Mora.

3rd They hire defensive guru TONY DUNGY and it was well it's Dungy's 1st year and but next year the DEFENSE will be redy.

4th it was well they had to play the pats in the COLD and the Pats D was pushing off the Indy wideouts and holding them. Even with the 4 interceptions Manning got another pass.

5th after the inforced to push off rule, they played the Pats again and even though the sucky Indy D held the pats to 3 points in the half, Indy ended up loosing again. EJ was running the ball well but why did they stop? Why was Manning throwing the ball on 3-2 with a top 10 runningback in the backfield? Okay it was too COLD. Maybe if they grab homefield thruout next year, Manning will win a superbowl.

6th Finally got a "defense" but guess what, they STILL LOOSE. The D and the refs gave Manning a chance to win and he got sacked like what 2 times?

7th so what's it gonna be this time? If you can tell us something that the Colts need to legitimently fix to FINALLY win a SB, I'll become a COLTS fan.

I mean come on the redsox and whitesox done won before Manning.

p.s. you forgot to mention that during the Titans game Manning only threw for 227 on going 19-47 and no TDs. ANd please if you gonna blame the Colts D, bring some stats.

the other half of winning is made up of intangibles: dealing with adversity, adapting and doing whatever it takes when everything has gone wrong.

when manning gets thrown off his game, he's incapable of recovering. it's more than just 'getting rattled'. Lots of QBs get rattled from time to time. Manning simply doesn't have a plan B. Either his highly complex offense of reads and audibles slices the defenses apart (49 passing TDs), or he flounders and flops. See: the analysis above of Peyton in the playoffs.

n/m

benefits it brings to each organ and how it will smell in his fecal matter. He then broke down the methane gas component and figured out how to convert it to a high grade ethanol to power his scooter he uses on the Colt's campus.

But simple shit like opening the can? Nah, son. Who cares about the simple shit?


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lol.

only person i've heard even half cop has been jaworski, and he gets a pass because he's jaws.

>only person i've heard even half cop has been jaworski, and
>he gets a pass because he's jaws.


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but I guess he felt that was his duty as a former coach. I'm also looking forward to Dan Marino on Inside the NFL tonight.

they were playing the Steelers.

if the Colts D were non-existent, it is proven that Ben 'n 'em can put up 40+ points (see the COWBELL ringing in Cleveland Stadium close to season's end).

>they were playing the Steelers.
>
>if the Colts D were non-existent, it is proven that Ben 'n 'em
>can put up 40+ points (see the COWBELL ringing in Cleveland
>Stadium close to season's end).
the redskins D is ALWAYS given more credit than the colts D, yet they allowed only one less point than the colts did to a less physical offense, who LOST THEIR STARTING MVP RUNNING BACK.

everyone seems to forget the freeney hit on roethlisberger and the june interception early in the first quarter, you know why? oh that's right because the STEELERS got the ball back in like 2 minutes.

call me harsh and unforgiving or what have you, but i REFUSE to call ANY of these colt offenses "great." the 85 bears allowed TEN POINTS in the playoffs. if a team touted for a certain side of the ball doesn't go true to form then THEY DESERVE TO TAKE THE HEAT.

this colts team, in the past three years, in the game that eliminated them from playoff contention scored a TOTAL of 35 points. THREE GAMES. that number speaks for itself.

it is clearly the QB and the offensive philosophy that is hurting the team. if they could even SCORE first and give the defense some help, rather than making them spend the better part of the game on the field, one would be amazed at how much better the defense would be playing. the most critical sequence of the game was when the steelers got those two first downs on 4th down and the colts couldn't stop them. you don't think cowher knew what he was doing? the colts defense had been on the field most of the game so by the time the bus was running it at them behind that big line, you think they had much left in the tank? GTFOHWTB.

peyton womanning shall never get an ounce of respect from me until he wins the super bowl. that's word.

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3 came in the state championship tournament.

even as a kid, he was a bitchmade choke artist.

They should have a commercial with Webber and Manning.

Some people got it like Robert Horry and some people don't like Peyton Manning.

whole sale changes. Elway became a winner cus he deferred. He took the back seat cus he knew that old shit wasn't working.


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I didn't know that.....damn.

I'd appreciate any stories from Peyton's pee-wee league career. I'm sure he choked a few times in the big game then as well.

deeper than i ever thought it was.
it's solidified now.
i can't trust him again until he pulls an Elway.

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>i can't trust him again until he pulls an Elway.

gets a runningback that can carry the team? oh wait, he already has that.....

>gets a runningback that can carry the team? oh wait, he
>already has that.....

what i meant was actually give him the damn ball.
Elway gave Davis the ball.
Manning doesn't give Edge the ball.

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just wondering

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Peyton can take care of the regular season...get us homefield

then let Jim take over...

yuh

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Overall, I didn't think Peyton played THAT bad of a game....I thought his playcalling, was off the mark, and therefore he choked...He hesitated.....

My biggest gripe is that he failed to give the ball to Edge at least 20-25 times...Thats downright pathetic.....Edge is the unsung hero of that offense as well as the line...Apparently Manning thought he could do it better on his own....Another gripe of mine is where was Marvin Harrison all game??? He was nowhere to be found...Dude only had 2 catches...Now I know Manning's passes were a bit innaccurate, but he could've gotten open a few more times, IMO.....Its rare to ever see him get shut down like that....

But yeah, I'm not copping pleas at all bc I've never been a fan of the Indy team and I know that the majority of blame has to lie w/ Peyton Manning....ANd the the bitch-made comments were pathetic...I forgive, but he still did a big no-no in my book and it will be hard for me to regain the respect I had for him....

>Overall, I didn't think Peyton played THAT bad of a
>game....I thought his playcalling, was off the mark, and
>therefore he choked...He hesitated.....
>
>My biggest gripe is that he failed to give the ball to Edge at
>least 20-25 times...Thats downright pathetic.....Edge is the
>unsung hero of that offense as well as the line...Apparently
>Manning thought he could do it better on his own....Another
>gripe of mine is where was Marvin Harrison all game??? He was
>nowhere to be found...Dude only had 2 catches...Now I know
>Manning's passes were a bit innaccurate, but he could've
>gotten open a few more times, IMO.....Its rare to ever see him
>get shut down like that....
>
that good guy label people try to give him is overblown. what got them this far was letting the running game control the tempo to set up the play action. but mr big stuff couldn't wait for that in the most important game of the season, he had to show he could throw. well i hope he's happy now cause he's almost certain to lose edge and highly likely to lose wayne. commentators may ride his nuts hard but i bet there are a lot of players in the league looking at him now, reluctant to play with him if they had the chance.

fuck him for acting like he's God.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/060119

Peyton shouldn't call all the plays

By Jason Whitlock
Special to Page 2

Here are your NFL Truths for this week:

10. The key to improving next year's Indianapolis Colts is the organization's willingness to take away Peyton Manning's offensive autonomy.

Indy's offense self-destructed against Pittsburgh because its primary play caller, Manning, was out of breath and dazed by several of the hits he absorbed. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh's defensive play caller, Dick LeBeau, was never touched all afternoon.

Manning can't outthink a topflight defensive coordinator while trying to avoid Joey Porter. LeBeau's unit outsmarted Manning repeatedly. The Steelers consistently waited until the last possible second before deciding from which side to blitz. The Steelers waited for Manning to identify the strongside linebacker at the line of scrimmage, then decided whom to blitz.

The Steelers had blitzers run free because Manning often kicked his protection in the wrong direction. Yes, the "good teammate" created some of his own pass-protection problems.

No quarterback in the league is more bothered by pressure than Manning. His softness, combined with the pressure of calling plays at the line of scrimmage, caused Indy's offense to short-circuit.

Had an offensive coordinator been in control of the Colts' offense, Edgerrin James would've received 25 carries. He certainly would've carried the ball late in the game with the Colts needing 2 yards to pick up a first down.

The Colts should use their no-huddle offense 25 percent of the time and rely on their offensive coordinator to call plays the rest of the time, especially when Manning is afflicted with happy feet.

Manning enjoys having the responsibility of running Indy's offense, but it's too much responsibility for any one man.


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for ONCE i can agree with whitlock's truths which are usually shock hungry bullshit.

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The James Brolin/Chad Lowe Award for Best Ongoing Emasculation
To poor Tony Dungy, who sent his punting team out twice this season in fourth-and-short situations only to have it waved off by an overwhelmed quarterback whose postseason record currently stands at 3-6.



First of all, can you imagine what would happen if Bill Belichick sent New England's punting team out and Tom Brady tried to wave it off? Actually, I know what would happen -- Belichick would immediately call a timeout, furiously motion for Brady to come over, then chew him out on national TV. That's what would happen. Second of all, if you're the other Indy players, how can you respect your coach after that? Who's running the team, Dungy or Manning? Can you name another professional athlete in any sport who acts autonomously and directly disobeys his coach? Why doesn't the national media make a bigger deal out of this? What's the difference between Manning waving the punt team off the field and Terrell Owens questioning the competency of Donovan McNabb?



One positive outcome: The Tony Dungy "I can't believe my QB just hung me out to dry on national TV" Face. Eerily reminiscent of the scene in "Scarface" when coke dealer Frank Lopez (Robert Loggia's character) shows up at the Miami nightclub, sees Tony Montana with his arm around his girlfriend (Michelle Pfeiffer's character), makes the requisite "Get your hands off my girl" comment, and not only does Tony refuse to budge, he stares him down and fires back with something along the lines of, "Hey, maybe she needs a new man, Frank." And poor Lopez just stands there for four or five seconds with the castrated deer-in-the-headlights look, debating his options before skulking away. That was Tony Dungy in the Pittsburgh game. Not good.



(Note: Later that night, Lopez ordered a hit on Tony at that same nightclub, which Tony managed to foil and find time to shoot Frank a few hours later. I find this interesting.)





The Peyton Manning Award for Worst Performance in a Playoff Game
With apologies to Tom Brady, who was uncharacteristically sloppy for two straight weeks and made the single-worst throw of his career (the pick to Champ Bailey), I still think Manning gets this award for his Tony Eason impersonation against the Steelers. More than everything else, quarterbacks need to come through in the clutch, carry themselves like the coolest guys on the field, inspire confidence in their teammates (no matter how bleak the situation), respect the coach's decisions and be quality teammates even in the face of adversity. Manning did none of these things on Sunday. And I'm not sure even A-Rod would have muttered the "I'm trying to be a good teammate" line. Some guys rise to the occasion in big games, some guys shrink from the occasion. He's one of the shrinkers. But if you're playing a 2-10 Lions team on Thanksgiving with three days to prepare, he's your guy.



While we're here, three Manning-related e-mails that I enjoyed this week ...



From John Buford in N.C.: "Have you noticed the similarity between the Peyton Manning Face and the Boss Hogg Face? You know, the one that Sorrell Booke made whenever he found out that the Duke boys had used their cousin Daisy's sexuality and chicken-frying prowess as a diversion to steal the keys from Enos and break out of America's least-secure jail again?"



From Andy in Indy: "Can you please spare me another 'Colts choke, Peyton sucks' article? We know this already and you should feel our pain. The worst part about the situation is that as a Colts fan I know that we have another eight to 12 years of this, because there is NO WAY we would ever get rid of Manning. It is like moving in with a girlfriend, breaking up with her, but still having to live with her for the next 10 years ... leaving you with predicaments where you are hitting a home run with a girl at a bar (ie: regular season) and then you go for the close (ie: playoffs) only to remember that your ex-girlfriend lives with you. Good times all around. Man, I can't wait to go 13-3 next year! At least we can look forward to another MVP season ... I heard Aaron Brooks is available!!"



From Steve in Kansas City: "Joe Posnanski had an article about Manning in Monday's paper that included this tidbit: 'Manning lost only five games in Isidore Newman High in New Orleans, but three of those losses came in the state playoffs. He did not win a state championship. He lost only six games at Tennessee, but famously three of those losses were to Florida, and the Volunteers did not win the national championship until after he left.' Which brings me to this question, which do you think will come first? A Manning championship ... or a movie remake of 'Cagney & Lacey' starring Jennifer Aniston & Angelina Jolie?"

we need one more good day of hate to push us over the 500 mark.

why is dr. z copping pleas?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/dr_z/01/17/z.brady.manning/index.html

still, it was good while it lasted....

it's only been five days. and posts don't disappear anymore. this post will last his entire career and go five digits.

now we have a comfortable place to come. its like the Cheers of Hatin Peyton

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

what's goin on in here?

barkeep, i'll have the regular.

this post just audibled out of a run on 3rd and 1 from midfield, and opted instead for a long bomb to the end zone.

i would say i'd keep it up until womanning wins the big one, but i think the link will go dead before then...

well you said choke artist?!!

>well you said choke artist?!!
you CANT BE SERIOUS. mcnabb has made some bad plays in some big games but to compare him to womanning is criminal.

when has mcnabb been shut out of a playoff game with the greatest offense on earth? better question, when has he HAD the greatest offense on earth?
how many times has he gone into the playoffs with as fully loaded an offense as the colts?
his playoff record is 7-5, not the most spectacular, but night and day compared to 3-6 womanning.
let womanning get to a more than just two league championship games before you even COMPARE him to mcnabb in terms of choking.

in its self

>
>in its self
he wasn't alone in that. and it was far from a choke. he put up points and had them in the game throughout. at least he got there.

before elway ever won a super bowl, how many did he get trucked in?

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The media has officially ethered the Manning family!!

Manning's father still miffed
Archie says Colts QB is getting unfairly criticized for his postgame comments

By Mike Chappell
mike.chappell@indystar.com
Archie Manning continues to do a slow burn over the way his son, Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, is getting ripped by national media for his comments after Sunday's playoff loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

After the Colts' 21-18 upset loss in the AFC divisional game, Peyton cited "some problems in protection.'' He was sacked five times and pressured heavily throughout the game.

Terry Bradshaw, on the Fox network's postgame show, said Peyton's statements were tantamount to "calling out his offensive line.''
Archie disagreed.

"If you heard the whole press conference,'' he said in a telephone interview Thursday, "you'd understand what went on. That (Fox) crew really blew it up. They said Peyton 'called out his offensive line.' What he said is, 'We had protection problems.'

"I guess that's just the sports culture we live in. The guys that are on top seem to get hit harder. Maybe I'm just sensitive, but it seems like Peyton gets more of it than anybody whenever we lose a football game. (The media) wants an answer and when it gets an answer, you just tear him up.''

Peyton Manning wasn't available to offer his rebuttal to Bradshaw and other critics. He and his wife, Ashley, are out of the country, relaxing, according to Archie. Attempts to contact members of the Colts' offensive line, including center Jeff Saturday, were unsuccessful.

Archie said Peyton was watching the Fox broadcast of the Carolina-Chicago NFC divisional game when he heard Bradshaw's criticism.
"He was totally shocked,'' Archie said. "You hear what they say on the radio and in the media. They say Peyton choked and Peyton can't win a big game. He's been living with that forever.

"But you add this to it, and it hurts. I just don't understand how he gets torn up over this. He was just trying to do the right thing. I've seen a lot of people not go in (the news conference) after a tough loss like that. I was with him before he went in. I know his heart was broken. But he went in and did his duty. He stood up to it.''

During his Monday news conference, Colts coach Tony Dungy said he didn't consider Manning's comments to be aimed at the offensive line.
"He said we had some protection issues and obviously we did,'' Dungy said.

Team president Bill Polian, on his Monday night radio show, said in hindsight Manning might have phrased his answer differently, adding, "you're never going to be 100 percent politically correct in that situation.''

Joe Theismann, an analyst for ESPN, agreed. Manning's comments, he said, wouldn't have carried finger-pointing connotations had he done a better job of including himself in those protection problems.

"What he needed to do was really put himself in the mix,'' Theismann said. "He should have said something along the lines of, 'It's my job to get guys lined up in the right place to block people, and I didn't do a very good job today.' ''

Archie believes Peyton did that.

"Football people, when you talk about protection problems, understand you're talking about everybody,'' he said. "It's the coaches, the quarterback, the offensive line, the running backs, the tight end.''

Archie categorized Bradshaw's on-air criticism as a "cheap shot.''
"It's not right to show that one quote out of a long press conference where people keep asking him and asking him,'' Archie said. "Yes, I thought it was a cheap shot, but I'm not going to go to war with Terry Bradshaw.

"I hope Terry doesn't have anything against us.''
Bradshaw dismissed the notion he has an anti-Manning agenda.
"I don't want to make it a personal thing with the Mannings because they are wonderful people and do wonderful things,'' Bradshaw said in a Wednesday teleconference.

He insisted his comment that Peyton "called out his offensive line'' was made after viewing the postgame news conference.

"I saw his face,'' Bradshaw said. "I heard what he said and . . . my immediate reaction was this: He is pointing fingers. Right or wrong, that's what I thought and I said it.''

Bradshaw would welcome a call from Archie, or Peyton, to resolve the dispute. Sometimes, he said in reference to Archie defending Peyton, "you've got to stand up and do your own battles."

"My dad taught me a long time ago, 'I ain't fighting your battles for you, son. You fight your own battles.' ''

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who else is there to blame
for the 'protection problems'
UNLESS indy has no max protection
plays in their arsenal?

he gets the glory, the whole
'best qb in the game' label,
so that - coupled with the
fact AGAIN, that HE CALLS
THE PLAYS - means he gets the blame, too...


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>"My dad taught me a long time ago, 'I ain't fighting your
>battles for you, son. You fight your own battles.' ''
>

With the addition of Archie Manning or Jim Irsay to the NFL Rules Committee (otherwise known as the NFL's Supreme Court) this year, look for a new wave of emphasis points and rule adendums. This is a sampling of some of the proposals which these "Gods of Football" will consider:

1.) For the health of the players and fans, all games must be played in domes next season. Any team which does not currently play in a dome will play all of its' "home" games at neutral sites in domed stadiums...the exact locale to be determined by the schedule makers. Furthermore, each team which does not have a domed stadium must forfeit their #1 draft pick to those teams that do...in order to compensate the domed teams for the increased use of their stadium facilities;

2.) In order to better protect QBs, and to show sensativity for the plight of the victims of Hurricane Katrina in Mississippi, defensive linemen are not allowed to cross the line of scrimmage in order to pressure the opposing QB until they first count aloud from 1-5 in this prescribed manner...one mississippi, two mississippi, three mississippi...etc. Violation of this rule shall result in a defacto roughing the passer, 15 yard penalty;

3.) In order to end the controversy on PI calls, any and all contact by a DB against a WR is strictly prohibited...and will draw a PI flag;

4.) All of the above rules shall apply to non-dome teams only...in order to encourage expedited construction by those teams of domes, for the reasons set out in #1 above.


taken from TexasPat@boston.com

I mean, 6 linemen CAN'T pick up 8 men. That's the offensive play-calling's fault. And if Edge isn't in the game and you know they're bringing a serious blitz = Not Offensive Line's Fault. I was just listening to that little comment that Indy radio cat was saying on ESPN. Trying to blame the o-line.

the quote is early in the article, here's a breakdown

http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/9170836

On defense, the Steelers game plan was to show the big-blitz early, then back off. This worked to perfection. Indianapolis apparently had spent the week preparing for the big-blitz, and surely wanted to be big-blitzed; there's nothing Big Brother likes more than being blitzed. Repeatedly in the first half, Pittsburgh safeties or cornerbacks crowded the line, bouncing up and down as if to blitz; repeatedly Manning audibled to quick slants or ups; then the Steelers' apparent blitzers dropped into coverage and Manning did not see, as he expected, someone open right away. For instance, Indy facing third-and-8 on its first possession, the Steelers showed a seven-blitz, crowding the line with jacked-up players; then rushed only four, incompletion as Manning appeared confused. Leading 14-0, Pittsburgh sacked Manning to create a third-and-24, followed by a punt, using the same tactic of showing the big blitz then backing off. After only showing the blitz in the first, the Steelers came often in the second, with mixed results as noted above. The bottom line was holding the Colts to 18 points in their home dome, and that means Pittsburgh played tremendous defense.

Now to the Lucky Charms' collapse. The Indianapolis offensive line, which has played so well all season, had a horrible game; Glenn, especially. Pittsburgh's show-the-blitz-then-backpedal seemed to confound Colts blockers, although every NFL team uses this trick at least occasionally. Well, every NFL team except the Colts, who almost never blitz or even fake blitzing -- which means the Indianapolis offensive line doesn't see this much in practice. Perhaps the Colts' "scout team" impersonating the Steelers defense was running all-out blitzing in practice, and when the Steelers instead backpedaled, the blockers became bewildered. The Colts' offensive game plan called for establishing the run early, and weak blocking prevented this from working. Yet for some reason it was well into the third quarter before Colts coaches switched to the gonzo down-the-field tactics that the team executes so well; and the Colts did not go hurry-up until the end, though hurry-up might have negated Pittsburgh's elaborate presnap defensive movement.

make no mistake

but the issue is Peyton not changing the gameplan/throwing his teammates under a bus

I remember all of the peja choke artists posts of the last few seasons...

peace & blessings,

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peace & blessings,

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sigless for the summer, y'all.

studying the manning school of choking, applying his techniques to craft the perfect choke job in the sports of the future.

when E'rrd Flargnugle leads a team to a record of 700 and 1 over a three year regular season of hoverball, only to lose to Blephid M'gott and the 3rd ranked team in Hoverball, people will celebrate Flargnugle for 'pulling a manning'. In the future, however, after years of Bushwellian language restructuring and behavioral modification, our country will actually laud the LOSERS of sporting events, making E'rrd Flargnugle the actual 'victor' in the public sense. Manning's legacy will live for ever.



peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

In other words, when he took his L, he pretty much owned up to why the Broncos lost.

As one should!

Even Jake Plummer losing doesn't obscure what a bitch Peyton Manning is.

Keep the hate going till we reach 500 yo.

And Kobe just dropped 81 -- insane.

When she blamed it on her band.

What fu**ing bitches.

Buddy, u were the one who couldn't throw a grain of sand in the ocean.



peace

*grabs a box of kleenex*

For once in our great nation we were unified for ONE cause...the choking of Peyton-I-thought-I-was-better-than-Dan-Marino Manning.

We can build a whole new board system based on Peyton's bitchitude!

Dear Rome,

Who does Michael Vick think he is, defending his brother like that? He needs to shut up.

Sincerely,
Archie and Peyton Manning

.

the most amazing thing is that with all this talk about roethlisberger, they're reevaluating his place among quarterbacks and they're STILL listing womanning as number one. jason sehorn's wackass was on dan patrick's a few days ago and he was listing womanning first and brady 4th (previously he didn't even have brady top 5) because of belichick's system (although drew bledsoe didn't seem to excel in that system quite the same way) yet oddly enough, womanning still gets props for all that he can do and how bad that team would be without him. just stay married to angie harmon and STFU son.
this ho still gets much respect and i'm confused why. donovan mcnabb would have gotten CRUCIFIED if he had gone out in such a bitchlike fashion. i need dungy, edge, dwight and reggie to go to another team so i can root against all success for that wack ass hick.

Even though i'm a Steelers fan I can kinda sorta see folks rating him ahead of Big Ben but I wouldn't. But how on God's earth do you ever ever rate him ahead of Brady (and I'm no New England fan)? It's like folks are brainwashed.

If the NFL didn't have a post season maybe I can see their point but the playoffs are like kryptonite to this dude but everyone still rides him.


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STAY HERE NIGGA! STOP RUNNING. your bitchass should have left the country before the ball was kicked off.

...and lose in the playoffs post, and I thought we should be reminded on this last day of January of Senor Manning and what he mean to the Sports Board.

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