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25762, This is 1 of those"OE's wrong even when there's actually cism"situations
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Thu Jul-21-05 10:23 PM
>1) Since you didn't bother last time....or any time for that
>matter, I'll just re-ask you the same question you've been
>avoiding:

This is really quite funny coming from you.

>Find me real, pure, actual evidence, of any kind(even if it is
>qualitative) that Aaron Brooks is 17% less aware a quarterback
>than Drew Bledsoe, and do so outside of pointing out two
>bonehead plays.

Actually I gave you evidence, and you yourself admitted "So, yes, Aaron Brooks might actually make a trillion worse decisons than Drew Bledsoe." Since we all seem to agree on that point, I really don't see what the argument is here.

>If Bonehead plays were the justification for a
>17% hit, than Brett Favre would have negative awareness
>points.

See, THAT would be a good argument for you to make. I don't know why you're wasting your breath defending Brooks.

>I want actual evidence, having to do with the games they play
>in, with the shoulder pads on, between 14:49 of the first
>quarter and 00:01 of the 4th quarter.

I already gave you some. But I want actual evidence for why Simms was a more aware quarterback than O'Brien, not "Phil Simms won a Super Bowl and Ken O'Brien didn't."

>a)Wins as much or more than Bledsoe

When Brooks leads a team to the Super Bowl you can say that.

>b)Throws fewer interceptions
>c)Throws for more yards and touchdowns
>d)Completes passes at a comparable clip

You're confusing awareness for skill and overall effectiveness again - they are not one in the same.

>2) Kyle Boller actually *is* more athletic than Aaron Brooks.
>He ran a 4.6/40 at the combine, and blistered all the other
>physical drills. In fact, his physical skills tests were
>closer to the Mcnabb/Vick class of athlete than they were to
>Brooks....well....perhaps not Vick, but certainly Mcnabb(ran a
>4.5/40)

Brooks ran a 4.53 40, so there goes that theory.

>On the other hand, Aaron Brooks was special, not because of
>his athleticism, but because of his arm and height,

Arm strengh is part of athleticism.

>Like I said, you and a lot of other people make the reflexive
>mistake of not associating Kyle Boller with athleticism, and
>this non-association is similar to other assumptions, one of
>which is black quarterbacks and cerebral qualities.

No, YOU made that mistake by saying KYLE BOLLER (all caps!) actually had more rushing yards than Brooks, like it was a joke that he got outrun by a slow whiteboy. I never impugned Boller's athleticism, I just asked you WTF that had to do with anything.

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