>I don't get it. You're being petty.

I'm really not.

>But we can do this:
>
>Provide some reasons,
>
>Some real reasons,

Oh, you mean like the "real" reasons you gave in the Boggs/Gwynn debate? e.g. "It happened with other players, so it's *possible*; the numbers don't tell a compelling story", etc? I'd have thought you could appreciate arguments like that.

>As in reasons having to do with how Bledsoe plays the actual
>game of football, that justify Bledsoe having an awareness
>rating 17% percent higher than Aaron Brooks.
>
>Single plays don't count.

You know quite well that Brooks was known for making boneheaded plays long before the backwards pass. And a few weeks later he tossed the ball right at an incoming linebacker with nobody else in sight. So it's not a single play, Brooks makes boneheaded plays all the time.

>Sentiment dosen't count.
>
>"gut feelings" dont count.

I didn't say anything about "sentiment" or "gut feelings", I said boneheaded plays. Those count.

>You see,
>
>GUT FEELINGS are the feelings that are the most suceptible to
>race tinkering. They are the ones that we tend not to
>question.

So is it "race tinkering" that causes peoples' gut feeling that Simms was a more aware QB than O'Brien? Yeah, cuz everyone knows those dumb micks don't have the mental faculties to play QB.

>Bledose *appears* like a more cerebral quarterback.

I wouldn't call him "cerebral", I just don't think he's as prone to lose his head in a game as Brooks is. That doesn't exactly make him a genius.

>We all instinctively *feel* like he's more aware, has better
>instincts, etc.
>
>The actual facts, what he does in the actual game of football,
>when he puts on the shoulder pads, and has to play the game,
>don't back that up.
>
>AT ALL.

Again, I think you're mixing up awareness with overall effectiveness.

>Hell, Bledsoe has a higher fucking awareness rating than Dante
>Culpepper for chrissakes.
>
>This is the point.

Culpepper still hasn't shaken his reputation for being a fumble machine. Unfair? Probably. Racist? I dunno, maybe.... but he's only rated 1 point lower than Bledsoe so I don't really see the big deal there.

>And just for good measure I'll throw a radical black guy
>comment for you to get peeved about, Mr. Moderate:

The fact that I'm not a hysterical reactionary doesn't make me a moderate, Mr. Radical Revolutionary.

>I think we associate a certain look with a certain skill set.
>I think that if the 6'5 white, stoudt, stern-faced QB, and the
>young, flashy, black athletic quarterback make the same
>mistake, the error is attributed to a lack of intellect in one
>example more than the other.

That's funny, cuz Ryan Leaf fit that profile to a T and people thought he was dumb as a rock because of all the stupid mistakes he made.

So yes, that tends to be the case, but it's by no means an absolute. And as I said, I do agree with you *in general* here, just not in the particular case of Brooks.

>There. Go place that in with my "Pat Tillman should not be SI
>Sportsman of the Year"-brand of evil black guy comments.

You mean your "Pat Tillman is a Ramboesque machismo posturing idiot who abandoned his non-existent child because he wanted to go kill some swarthy foreigners and got what he deserved" comments?

>>Not
>>I actually agree with you on the racism thing in general
>here,
>>but Brooks is a bad example for you to point to, cuz his
>>awareness is actually pretty poor.
>
>Again, based on sentiments and feelings.

Again, based on boneheaded plays.

>What actually goes on in the game of football doesen't back
>that up.

Throwing the ball backwards 20 yards over the head of your offensive lineman backs that up.

>Brooks gained a total of 173 yards on the ground last year.
>
>KYLE BOLLER out-rushed Aaron Brooks last year.
>
>But see, the reason you appealed to Aaron Brooks' athleticism
>is the same reason you(and me, and EA Sports) instinctively
>think he has low "awareness."

So your argument is that Kyle Boller is more atheltic than Brooks? Come on dude. I appealed to Brooks' athleticism because he is, in fact, very athletic.

And are you actually admitting that you instinctively think Brooks has low awareness?

>Gut feelings.
>
>Brooks is actually *NOT* a scrambler, and hasn't been for
>several seasons. He *can* scramble, but is a pretty pure
>pocket passer, with a wicked slingshot arm, who is streaky,
>but when he's hot, is a pleasure to watch toss the football.

I didn't say he's a scrambler. I said he has great speed in the pocket, which he does. Certainly far better speed than Bledsoe.

>Of course "awareness" is not Jeff Garcia's problem.
>
>I guess his 10-9 TD-INT ratio had to do with his gayness or
>something.
>
>*shakes head*

I thought it had to do with his weak arm, sucky team, and advancing age. But what do I know, I tend to evaluate players based on their on-field performance instead of their rumored sexual preferences.

>Fair enough, but too bad there is not a single grain of actual
>evidence based on real football playing that you can point to
>that argues for Drew Bledose being's ranked 13 points higher
>in the awareness category.

How's this for a single grain of actual evidence based on real football playing: Bledsoe doesn't turn around and throw the ball 20 yards backwards towards offensive linemen.

>Hell, I'd shush if Bledsoe was say....4 points above. Maybe 5.
>
>
>But 13?
>
>That's just ridiculous, and unsubstantiated.

I think Favre being 9 points above McNabb and Vick within 2 points of Eli is much more ridiculous. But for some reason you prefer defending Aaron Brooks.

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