>For the life of me, just agree with me, because you know I'm
>right.

I actually agree with you on the racism thing in general here, but Brooks is a bad example for you to point to, cuz his awareness is actually pretty poor.

>Phil Simms was a super bowl winning QB on some of the
>winningest Giant teams ever.
>Ken O'Brien was not.

Um, that was kinda my point.

>The comparison, and your point, end there, because neither
>Brooks, nor Bledsoe, are winners as of late (Bledsoe, of
>course, was a backup on the Patriot Super Bowl teams, just
>like he should have been).

Not really. I was just pointing out an example of how those stats aren't necessarily a good indicator of "awareness level". And Bledsoe has led a team to the Super Bowl, so he's definitely got a more proven track record of winning than Brooks does.

>So, yes, Aaron Brooks might actually make a trillion worse
>decisons than Drew Bledsoe.

By all rights this post should end here.

But I suppose it's inexorably getting caught up in the tide of this thread, so I guess I'll just have to go with the flow.

>I just happen to find those hard
>to focus on when:
>
>a)He plays with a far shittier defense, which digs him into
>holes, makes him play from behind, or makes him play with few
>leads, or in close games.

And that's supposed to negate my comparison? Um, you do realize that Ken O'Brien played for the *Jets*, right? I think he played with a far shitter defense behind him most of those years than Simms did with the G-Men.

>b)He has thrown, over the past four season, less interceptions
>per touchdown than Drew Bledose.

And as I pointed out, O'Brien threw less interceptions per touchdown than Simms over their respective careers.

>c)Completes passes at a comparable clip and despite dropping
>back almost 100 more times, was only sacked a handful more
>times, which pisses on any "pocket presence" argument.

Again, O'Brien's career completion percentage is better than Simms'.

As for the sacks, Brooks has great speed in the pocket while Bledsoe is a petrified statue back there.

>d)Dosen't lose any more games than Bledose, despite the fact
>that Bledsoe's defense set his offense up to win more games
>than Brooks' defense does. That is where your Phil Simms
>comparison breaks down. Simms, despite his numbers, won games
>with his great defense. Bledsoe did not.

And that proves Brooks' "awarenes level" how? Brooks is a much better athlete than Bledsoe, and he wins his games through his athleticism. I am not arguing against Brooks' overall effectiveness vs. Bledsoe (cuz they're both pretty ineffective at this point), just his level of awareness.

>There is no justification for Bledsoe's awareness rating being
>ten points HIGHER.

"So, yes, Aaron Brooks might actually make a trillion worse decisons than Drew Bledsoe."

I'd say 'a trillion worse decisions' seems like pretty good justification.

>If it was one, or two points higher, than
>fine. We wouldn't have a discussion here. But like you allude
>to, having favre, and Garcia, and Manning, and Grossman have
>higher awareness numbers dosen't stand up to any scrutiny at
>all.

Agreed (athough I don't know if awareness is Garcia's biggest problem). So argue about those guys, and we wouldn't have a discussion here.

>Again, focus on what I'm saying:
>
>I'm not even saying that Brooks is *more* aware.

Yes, I realize that. You are saying he is no less aware than Bledsoe, which I do not agree with.

>I'm saying there is little evidence to support him being
>significantly *less* aware than Bledsoe, Eli, Grossman, etc.

See, I agree with you on Eli and probably Grossman (haven't really see him play, but I know he sucks). Not Bledsoe though. Cuz with your Bledsoe argument I think you're getting overall effectiveness mixed up with awareness level.

But Eli? Shit, did you see that shook-ass punk play last year? It was like Land of the Lost out there, I think I actually saw him get sacked by a Sleeslack at one point.

So I don't actually disagree with your underlying point this time, just the particular argument you chose to make it. Pick your horse better, and I might actually ride with you on this one.

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