It's happening on other boards, ya know?

I'm taking Cam, obviously. I like my 'gendas high risk/high make 'em mad.

but they want to give it to pasty peyton

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lmao

#gocard

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He may be there before the bye.

joe montana just endorsed him.

i bought into the offseason/OTA "leader in the locker room" hype surrounding gabbs.

but, actually completing passes after the 1st quarter is hard i guess.

>
>It's happening on other boards, ya know?
>
>I'm taking Cam, obviously. I like my 'gendas high risk/high
>make 'em mad.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_medqnzdmC01rk74yho1_250.gif

Tannehill isn't good tho. But Miami doesn't matter. Same for weeden
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waiting till the end of the season though
Luck has houston twice and they might have something to prove if NE keeps winning and makes it interesting late for seeding
dude might have another 5-6 interceptions in em. luck being on that stafford plan of putting up a gazillon attempts getting numbers ain't impressing me
let's see if this colts team is going be legit for multiple years or if this some flukey coach sick/hella shitty teams in the AFC thing this year
if RG3 can some how stay healthy in his career don't think there will be much debate
Cam and Wilson being in the discussion is just icing on the cake

you cannot throw picks in the situations he's done them. I'm convinced he knows they're bad decisions too, but right now he's launching them and "hoping for the best." which is not a NFL strategy.

not getting knocked for that
honestly this might end up being the best QB class in a minute
even dudes like weeden, tannehill, and now foles have shown glimpses of being legit franchise QBs

>not getting knocked for that
>honestly this might end up being the best QB class in a
>minute
>even dudes like weeden, tannehill, and now foles have shown
>glimpses of being legit franchise QBs

bwhahahah

>bwhahahah
>

http://mcnabborkolb.com/blog/2012/12/11/nick-foles-is-not-your-savior

I want to see him several games sans Andy and this bullshit (and beat the Giants at least once) before I crown his ass

He'll be fine

He's chucking it cuz he has to

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that's a closer comparison but Luck won.

that's some whole city on my back shit.

the colts were not a 2-14 team last year, they were a team that went 2-14 bc they had orders from on high to lose games to get luck

see thru, and of course irsays are another of the nfl's "made" families, so....

>the colts were not a 2-14 team last year, they were a team
>that went 2-14 bc they had orders from on high to lose games
>to get luck

i'll ask again: do you really think you can convince football players to lose on purpose, especially at the beginning of the season? no fucking way. even if they're 0-15 and they're facing another 0-15 team they'd rather end the season with some pride then get the top draft pick. it's not like the players get to pick anyways.

they werent on a need to know basis

but someone high up was pulling the strings and i already mentioned his name (of course some will laugh at the notion then turn around & blame other teams owners for their inability to win)

they werent a 2-14 team period, they couldve tried to get a decent QB to hold ghem over but why do that when u can trot scrubs like painter out there to get demolished?

no matter...if Luck keeps making the horrible decisions w/ the ball like he has all year he'll end up a huge bust anyway

Jim Caldwell and Bill Polian had to be in on the plan, knowing that if they successfully lost enough games their reward would be getting fired. I know Caldwell always dreamed of going from NFL head coach back to QB assistant.

there are usually a lot of good FA quarterbacks available in September, so I guess that confirms Polian being in on the plot. why settle for Kerry Collins, when he could've gotten Derek Anderson or Kyle Boller?

I think the final proof that the 2011 team was capable of 5-to-8 wins was when the new GM cut 43 players from the roster last spring. clearly, he saw their potential and decided to keep none of them.

What matters is that ANY team with Painter at QB is a losing team. He could maybe push 8-8 or 9-7 on the 2007 New England Patriots. Whether the Colts intended to or not, their season was tanked by having a god awful player at the most important position for the majority of the season. Freaking Dan Orlovsky went 2-3 on that team - you don't think he could have gone 5-11 with a full year of starts?

as to your other point tho, yes -- Polian was responsible for the awful depth at quarterback, running back, offensive line and in the secondary, which is why he was terminated. I don't think Orlovsky is a guy who has more success with more playing time, although it's conceivable he doubles the wins.

regardless, the 2011 Colts were bad (forget the quarterback, they had the statistically worst pass defense in NFL history). to compare their 2010 record is slighting Peyton Manning's individual greatness, and only 30 percent of the current 2012 team (and one coach) was involved with last year's debacle.

the owner is ALWAYS in position to put his team in a position to lose (again, no one who has blamed other sports owners for their teams failures better say SHIT to deny this)

but yall keep clinging to the fantasy

fine w/ me

we've got dumbass Washington fans telling me that the 2011 Colts were "actually pretty good"

Which is definitely true

Despite Cousins getting few first team reps
and the offense not being around his skill set

The Skins barely miss a beat with him there

& a marketable one at that

but to penalize Griff (who played in ALL the other games) bc Cousins had a good game is highly shortsighted

fact is, it only takes 1 dude to ensure that roster is as shitty as possible & the shittiest available QB is out there losing u games

thst said, i wish captain caveman luck on his career

and apparently do not care about veracity.

WRONG SON.

and won two games with the new QB. it wasn't a safe bet that they would end up in last place at that point, so they had no reason to do that.

>the colts were not a 2-14 team last year, they were a team
>that went 2-14 bc they had orders from on high to lose games
>to get luck
>
>see thru, and of course irsays are another of the nfl's "made"
>families, so....

lost a grip when they beat the texans late

the colts were not a 2-14 team last year, they were a team that went 2-14 bc they had orders from on high to lose games to get luck

see thru, and of course irsays are another of the nfl's "made" families, so....

ijust find the idea that tannehill is the long term answer (superbowl capable) in miami laughable. im gonna say he lasts all of next season and half of the next MAXIMUM in miami. If he is the starter for that whole period he has overacheived.

If your #1 takeaway was "Our QB lost us that game," we're never gonna agree on football anyway, so what's the point. Godspeed.

I watched a ton of come backs yesterday. Stuff happened before those comebacks were needed, they still got done. I watched our guy throw a ball 3 yards when we needed 4. No matter what you wanna say, our dude had the ball in his hands with a chance to win the game (AGAIN) and he didnt get it done. Sorry that bothers me and not you. If they doesnt piss you off to no end then YES we will never see eye to eye. I do think we both want to see the team win, so we can at least agree there......I think.

The Raiders, Cowboys, Vikings, Panthers, Tampa games that year don't count? He has 8 comeback wins in his career, all of which has been spent on the least-disciplined team in the league, with one of the worst coaching staffs, with THE worst special teams, and one of the worst secondaries. Why is your benchmark for QB play batting 1.000 in close games?

How many passes did he put in the hands or breadbasket of Pettigrew and Bell in the 2nd half yesterday, just to have them drop the ball? How many times was Peterson allowed to just rake the shit out of Calvin's arms or twist him around by the jersey? How many penalties wiping out big plays or big stops? How many times will the refs call an obvious hold against Suh's blocker? (zero. ZERO. For the rest of his goddamned career.) How many FGs can one man miss? How many drives do we have to start inside our own 10? In fact, here are the starting yardlines on all our drives yesterday.

9
11
7
20
8
21
6
20
20
20
20
20

We had better-than-a-touchback field position ONE TIME in the entire game, and that was the 21-yard-line.

For the second straight week, we had a strip-sack negated by a penalty. Speaking of which, you remember all those yellow flags yesterday, right? How many were directed at Stafford?

It's a broken record at this point. Stafford plays well enough to win. Team self-destructs around him in every way possible. Idiot fans blame Stafford. So he threw a 3-yard pass on 4th and 4. Maybe it's because everyone who ran beyond the 4 had already had a litany of drive-killing drops in the second half. Maybe the only (not-double-covered) guy he trusted to make a catch and a play was Burleson. Mathieu made a huge stop. But Burleson has made a career out of taking a short pass and making one guy miss.

I honestly wanted to start ordering the people I blame before Stafford to make my point, but rest assured, I'd be in double-digits before I got to him.

He HAS gotten it done in the 4th before. Many times. But you act like he's 0-for-infinity in his career in close games or something. It's baffling. I'm done, I'm pissed off enough at that game, I don't need this.

That said, your timing is suspect...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating

I rode for him and a certain sect of hating ass niggas flow ed. I bet you'd draft him over Nick Foles if you could.

But he was drafted in the 3rd so the took Cousins. Worked out good for him.
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He actually has the best TEAM around him of any young QB so he's positioned to win big sooner than the rest.

Even though my fear that Alex gives us the best chance THIS year and won't get to prove it lurks just beneath the surface...

before.

(russell athletic is slipping if they don't have dude on a mega contract). they could spark a comeback.


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>(russell athletic is slipping if they don't have dude on a
>mega contract). they could spark a comeback.

Wilson athletics too

I feel a merger comin on

I don't know if my boy is ever going to get a fair shake in this league, at least @ QB.

Mad white QBs are good 50% of the time

Mad black QBs are good 95% of the time

Mad white QBs include Marino, Ryan Leaf, Phillip Rivers

Doug Williams was one of the 8 or 9 maddest people ever
in history of the universe...he was like Django Unchained
out there saying "cracka" everytime he threw the ball in
that Superbowl

Warren Moon was extremely mad, didn't act it much during
his career but he's gone Farrakhan since retiring

McNair was quietly mad for all the SEC schools wanting
him to play defensive back

McNabb wasn't quite mad enough, which I respect, trying
to uplift an awful franchise with fat, greasy lipped,
bad breathed fans with uneven beards

Rodney Peetes chances for greatness ended the minute
he met Holly....no man on earth can be mad coming home
to the shining light of such a sun goddess

Cunningham was mad but had a gumby, and his madness
dropped in the direction of that gumby


Same way to be a successful white American boxer/basketball
player, you MUST be a little bit racist. MUST. MUST. MUST.

You know Gordon Heyward family be calling Obama the N-word
at dinner, exactly why I was high on him

Not sure about Kevin Love


But back to the subject at hand (c) Mega Montana


Freeman is blackest and maddest (that mixed anger =
the blackest, maddest anger) of the young bunch

Freeman is mad as shit

Very mad

Doubt he'll go the way of Flacco, he'll continue to
improve

He'll either FIZZLE completely OR transform into a
near hall of famer

RG3 is too frail/too likely to be exposed as openly gay
(which is fine, but will probably affect him psychologically).

Steve Smith is going to snap and kick Cam's ass in practice,
break his jaw, ruin his good looks, which his football skills
are built around....when people like Tha_Truth no longer want
to hump Cam, Cam can't play

Luck is my #2, btw

He's quietly mad, good white mad

You don't run over African-American defensive backs
with that ignorance and not be mad, I will never forget
that

He was at Stanford actively seeking out defensive backs
with gold teeth and audibling to bootlegs so he could
run them over, true story


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He made a leap this year, had a ridiculous stretch.

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>Doug Williams was one of the 8 or 9 maddest people ever
>in history of the universe...he was like Django Unchained
>out there saying "cracka" everytime he threw the ball in
>that Superbowl

lol 1


>You know Gordon Heyward family be calling Obama the N-word
>at dinner, exactly why I was high on him

lol 2


>He was at Stanford actively seeking out defensive backs
>with gold teeth and audibling to bootlegs so he could
>run them over, true story

lol 3

.

Getting drafted late might have some anger impact.

The NC State --> Wisconsin: going from a situation
where he's underappreciated to being the best QB
in a better program's history overnight

Being drafted in the 3rd round isn't that bad, actually,
when you think about it

Landing in camp with a coach who always allows
open competition = huge

The ingredients for madness are there but he's just
riding the good luck thing out



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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You must not know any black men

Barry Bonds had a white wife with the Pirates when he
was one of the maddest black men on earth

Had a black wife with the Giants when he was a steroidy
bundle of joy

Another point: the madness rule doesnt apply to black baseball
players. Madness is actually usually not a good thing. SOmetimes
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Rickey was mad. Reggie was mad. Jackie? Good gosh almighty.

Clemente? Aaron? JR Richards? Dave Stewart?

So madness for Blk Baseball players= greatness...right?

>Rickey was mad. Reggie was mad. Jackie? Good gosh
>almighty.

Eh....Jackie wasn't as mad as Satchel and Satchel
was only able to play in the MLB past the age of
40, when he was too old to be mad

If Satchel had been brought up at 21, he woulda
been the best pitcher in baseball by about a mile,
but would have critically injured at least 12 batters
by bean balls and choked a few more to near death

LOL @ white people calling Satchel NAMES from the
dugout and him just putting up with it like Jackie

bwahaha nah

Wouldn't happen

White people would have been SERIOUSLY MAIMED or KILLED

Branch Rickey wasn't no fool


>Clemente? Aaron? JR Richards? Dave Stewart?

Clemente wasn't mad, had that latin happiness, prolly
cuz he didn't understand English and so didn't hear
half the shit white people were saying....he just smiled,
and threw that ball real real real well from right field
(among other things, of course)

Aaron was mad after he stopped playing, was definitely
not while he played....if he was mad, he woulda dropped
them two white hippies who followed him around them
bases (glad he didn't, that was awesome)

Dave Stewart was DEFINITELY mad, like all the time,
I'll give you that

LOL @ him COMPLETELY SCARING the shit out of Clemens...Clemens
couldn't pitch AT ALL when he faced Stew

So this is a mixed bag....baseball writers are too racist
and the fans too white and snobby; being mad WILL get under
your skin and fuck up your game, make you injury prone or
some shit

Sheffield might be my favorite hitter ever...but he started
to slide when he started getting REAL REAL mad (around Yankees
time)

Bobby Bonilla? Got mad, started sucking

Carl Everett? Got mad, started sucking

Milton Bradley? LOL. His black madness LITERALLY made his
knee fall apart...and now dude is a wife beater going to
JAIL

Delmon Young went on a racist tirade against Jews...too mad


LOTS of talented black players went by the mad wayside


Let's compare this to the Barry Larkins...the Ozzies....
Jeters....oh look at pre-Cincy Griffey...he went to Cincy
and got mad, and was TOAST....Frank Thomas started to
get mad and it fucked up his swag for a sec...he calmed down
and was good....

So being a CALM nigga always pays in baseball....oh and look
at Tony Gwynn...niggas sleep on Gywnn being a cali nigga on
some quasi-hood shit...nigga could hoop and everything....but
he wasn't mad...need I say more about where that got him?

Torii Hunter quietly has the ingredients of a mad nigga but
has kept it under wraps save for a couple of tirades...he has
a long career in a front office after he's done playing because
of it...white people LOVE Hunter

Look at CC....CC is already near Hall of Fame caliber, btw..
...he struggling now, but no starting pitcher not named Clemens
has weathered the NY media better than CC in a quarter century...
he's a big, fat lovable nigga...and he a bay area nigga so you
KNOW he's low key mad underneath that fat...he just keep his
fade tight and his smile bright en route to Cooperstown

Shit...Matt Kemp got mad after the RACIST WHITE MEDIA robbed
him of that Ryan Braun MVP...he hasn't been as good since.

Also note that Hanley Ramirez was a god early, started getting
mad, then fell off....now he back in LA being a fun loving
nigga again and is balling

Note how Pedro's arm problems started after the Barry Zito
Cy Young meltdown...I'm telling you, keep that mad to a min

Exhibit a: http://nbclatino.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/robertoclemente.jpg?w=640&h=480&crop=1


^^^^ That light on his forehead is coming from WITHIN. FURIOUS.


I see how you ignored my first name- and I'm even trying to help you here: http://media.coreperformance.com/images/411*308/rickey-henderson-still-training.jpg

^^^^^ his happy is still FURIOUS.




HAPPY? I don't think so: http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/New+York+Yankees+Photo+Day+BdPqNzsmSl9l.jpg

http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/george-foster.jpg

http://bapple2286.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/ds.jpg


SIDEBURNS and NOSTRILS:

http://0.tqn.com/d/baseball/1/0/q/Y/-/-/BobGibson.jpg


SIDEBURNS, NOSTRILS, UNRESTRAINABLE AFRO:

http://redsoxandnascar.com/autographs/Autographs/baseball/Parker.jpg

>Steve Smith is going to snap and kick Cam's ass in practice,

http://www.thepigskinreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/smith.jpg

he looks like Cam's son in that commercial...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lp8ZX1x1UE

Cam's an a-hole and a thief but he doesn't look particularly good at fighting.

but he never got arrested...just suspended some games here and there...

They did a segment on E:60 on Smith and it was pretty good...

dude was asking him bout them fights and steve just staring off like O_O.

im thinking he bout to jump on the interviewer!

He still has his moments on the field but for the most part...Cam has been one with the bad temper...

epic shit

>You know Gordon Heyward family be calling Obama the N-word
>at dinner, exactly why I was high on him


>RG3 is too frail/too likely to be exposed as openly gay
>(which is fine, but will probably affect him psychologically).


>You don't run over African-American defensive backs
>with that ignorance and not be mad, I will never forget
>that
>He was at Stanford actively seeking out defensive backs
>with gold teeth and audibling to bootlegs so he could
>run them over, true story

>Rodney Peetes chances for greatness ended the minute
>he met Holly....no man on earth can be mad coming home
>to the shining light of such a sun goddess

I would never lose my cool knowing I done put 12 babies in Holly and she still making 21 year old chicks look like hood-rat bums


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The Freeman/Flacco paradigm may have exploded over the course of the past 12 months but Holly Robinson is still fine as fuck, Rodney's on TV every week on college post-game looking fat & happy.

when he does it's gonna be ugly... RGIII being treated like the second coming right now is the perfect fuel for Cam this offseason... Panthers have had a disappointing year but still should've beaten ATL twice... I think Cam will be an MVP candidate next season IF carolina has a solid offseason

>when he does it's gonna be ugly... RGIII being treated like
>the second coming right now is the perfect fuel for Cam this
>offseason... Panthers have had a disappointing year but still
>should've beaten ATL twice... I think Cam will be an MVP
>candidate next season IF carolina has a solid offseason

And gets a new coach

Dalton is a couple months removed from the argument.

continue

and i am still on #teamAlex as far as this year is concerned.

Minus him the 49ers would still be the best team of the group.

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>RE: Kaep gonna get a ring before any of them as a starter
>and i am still on #teamAlex as far as this year is concerned.
>

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/279295246947467265

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/279296497403715584

I'm pulling for Cam tho.

and out of them all I do believe he is the most "mad"

damn I wish Cleveland or Philly had drafted him, then I could homer out

on his back. Hell I might even order a poster of that nigga.

(how the hell did i miss this poast???)

yeah. russell got that good mad, too.


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From youngest to oldest. I'm including Kaep and Dalton, as a tip of the hat to the mouth-breathing Niner fans who can't count to 25. If you listed more than one person, fuck you, I picked the one you named first (with one notable exception...)

Robert Griffin III (age 22)
Tiger Woods
BrooklynWHAT

Cam Newton (age 23)
Basaglia
BISON CLASS of 97
ThaTruth
rjc27

Terrelle Pryor (age 23)
TheRealBillyOcean

Andrew Luck (age 23)
Vik
Bombastic
RaFromQueens

Josh Freeman (age 24)
Orbit_Established

Matthew Stafford (age 24)
JaysonWillyams

Russell Wilson (age 24)
Dr. Claw
jigga

Andy Dalton (age 25)
ChampAreno

Colin Kaepernick (age 25)
the time is when god…lounge
FortifiedLive
Beamer6178

>Josh Freeman (age 24)
>Orbit_Established

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Go ahead and buy on Cam doing the Superman pose
while 25 games under .500

Josh gonna be doing a 2 Jerry Rice workouts a day
over the summer, downloading offenses into his
afro ala Black Neo

Just watch

>
>Go ahead and buy on Cam doing the Superman pose
>while 25 games under .500

Me & Doc splittin them Dangeruss shares son

>Josh gonna be doing a 2 Jerry Rice workouts a day
>over the summer, downloading offenses into his
>afro ala Black Neo
>
>Just watch

He might wanna watch Wilson in the meantime too

any other choice is a clown choice bro & most likely rooted in deep seated ENVY (particularly if u a philly chump, i mean, fan)

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>Andrew Luck (age 23)
>Vik
>Bombastic
>RaFromQueens
>

Once the coaching staff get it together and the Panthers become more consistent, Cam will put fear in the opposition. We always here scrambling QBs can't win, and I reply when was the last time you seen a scrambling QB as big as Cam that can throw and know how to avoid the big hit? That is the biggest factor that separate Cam from RGIII. RG3 is a smart dude but will he learn how to protect himself and avoid the big hit??

Luck coming in second cause in 1 to 2 years the AFC south will be wide open for the Colts.

I want this kid to do well, but him doing well fucks
with my team.

get up to hate these other dudes. I liked RG3 more in college, would still like him more if he were not a Redskin. Cam I stood up for and have always dug his swag, dude is a beast, what a talent.

But uh, yeah, I guess if we are taking sides, I gotta go with Luck.

Despite the offense not being built around him,
Cousins comes in the game and slings, makes several
amazing throws every game

I'm just saying

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add to that the fact that he looks pretty good and there's your answer.

Dangeruss 1 Krappedhisnicks 0

>Dangeruss 1 Krappedhisnicks 0
>Dangeruss 1 RG's Knee (c)OE 0

Dangeruss 1 Krappedhisnicks 0
Dangeruss 1 RG's Knee (c)OE 0
Dangeruss 1 Nig Newton 0

Dangeruss 2 Krappedhisnicks 0
Dangeruss 1 RG's Knee (c)OE 0
Dangeruss 1 Nig Newton 0

Luck's up next

If I get a second, i'm running with Russy.

winded lame. Ouch.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2a5fx53.jpg

don't sleep on the Tannenator

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5n16gQXY31rntezlo1_400.gif

i really hope people are smarter than to have given up on cam for some media-driven boo shet, so i like ba's pick.

rgiii got me checking for the skins every week, but it's more fun for me to go with ponder. so, i will.

i think people should hitch their wagons to ryan mallett.

> ryan mallett.


slow release too, i could probably make a post and get 5 replies from the time he winds up and lets go of the ball

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Literally Kaep is better at being Cam than Cam

Kaep play in meaningful games too, while Cam piling
up meaningful numbers in worthless games

Oh, and Kaep's bicep curl celebration >>> that Superman bullshit

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

baking pies?

Kaep could have a tattoo of an Uzi on his
bicep and would still be cleaner cut than Cam

which, to these people, makes him better i guess

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Cam_Newton_during_the_2011_NFL_season.jpg

shit is frustrating


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

fuck they doin, it's not a plea cop, I feel worse for Steve Smith then Cam for this reason

Sea ready too

I haven't been keeping up like that

Right now I think Flynn is still the leader but he's turned heads a few times and they've designed some plays for him.

If he wins the starting job, I'm gonna have to holla at VonClay for Raiders Jags tickets that weekend (after we go Bear hunting)

josh johnson backup for the bengals and domonique davis backup for the falcons

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I'm the OG Kaepernick agenda holder on these boards.

Thanks, thanks.

>Thanks, thanks.

>>Thanks, thanks.
>

You're welcome

>You're welcome

Smith played the first of second half of those playoff games?

>Smith played the first of second half of those playoff games?
>
>

I think you know what I meant but I'm honestly not sure after reading this. I also think I know what you meant & hope that's happy solace for ya after last night.

anytime you say something to them they bring up SBs.

Hawks and Niners have the same number of SB appearances in the last 20 years: 1.

Niners fans living on glory of old. Let em cook.

Fuck you talking about history. We are a Super Bowl team as constructed. Seattle has not proven that.

Let it breathe bruh

you aiiight?

i know when you were LAST in the SB.

and really, it had been 19 years since if you wanna take it there. seahawks had been in a SB more recently up until february 2013.

smh.

i'm not saying we have nothing to prove. i'm not saying the late 80's and early 90's weren't impressive. however, niners fans like to throw some old ass shit in our faces.

i have zero doubt that had pete not blundered that atlanta game, we would have crushed y'all at your spot in the NFC title game considering we had done it a few weeks prior. last night only further fuels that belief.

We currently have a team that has proven to be a Super Bowl contender. We are not stomped by week 2 road losses. That's my point. Get it and move the fuck on

We are not stomped by week 2 road losses. That's my
>point.

That's only 2 less than the team made last night

Nice

CONTENDERS?

BWAHAHAHAHA.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/577529/whispers-rock-steady-o.gif

General comments about "that" coaching staff. Not great, but they haven't screwed up things at all in the first 2 games, and that's while having limited talent on the team.

You have anymore opinion based broad generalizations to give us?

"They need to convert more on 3rd downs!"

"You have to win the battles up front!"

I bet you had to look up the coaching staff for the Raiders. And that you did so, after you posted your initial reply. Lol

I've stated my opinions about the keys to success for a young quarterback in the NFL.

The only thing I've really known you to do around here is stan for Kentucky basketball mixed in with some occasional Raiders stannery so excuse me if I have little regard for your opinions on my opinions on the subject of professional football.


>You have anymore opinion based broad generalizations to give
>us?
>
>"They need to convert more on 3rd downs!"
>
>"You have to win the battles up front!"
>
>I bet you had to look up the coaching staff for the Raiders.
>And that you did so, after you posted your initial reply. Lol

Actually I pay attention the offensive coaches of all young QB's that I am a fan of, including Terrelle Pryor.

shit you've read, or shit you've heard someone else say.

So you not knowing shit about the Raiders isn't anything new.

If you would've stated something of any substance, then that would've been more than fine.

For example: T.P. doesn't have much of a chance with that coaching staff, because they're making him a pocket passer and that's not going to play to his strengths as a qb.

But you didn't.

That would've been wrong, but at least something.

>shit you've read, or shit you've heard someone else say.
>
>So you not knowing shit about the Raiders isn't anything new.
>
>If you would've stated something of any substance, then that
>would've been more than fine.
>
>For example: T.P. doesn't have much of a chance with that
>coaching staff, because they're making him a pocket passer and
>that's not going to play to his strengths as a qb.
>
>But you didn't.
>
>That would've been wrong, but at least something.

And can you point to one thing "of substance" that you've EVER said on this board regarding Pryor, the Raiders, or the NFL in general?

In your mad mind, your logical reply was essentially:
Why would I think you know what you're talking about when it comes to the Raiders, because when you talk about football all you do is talk about are the Raiders?

Really?

That made sense to you?

Oh, I'll post something substance as soon as you do the same for ANY sport. Lol

>In your mad mind, your logical reply was essentially:
>Why would I think you know what you're talking about when it
>comes to the Raiders, because when you talk about football all
>you do is talk about are the Raiders?
>
>Really?
>
>That made sense to you?
>
>Oh, I'll post something substance as soon as you do the same
>for ANY sport. Lol

Lol, your talk consists of "DEM T-PEEZY STOCKS LOOK GOOD!"

in addition to not watching their games.

Go ahead though.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=search&select_forum=8

course me being me I could also follow up with the fact that it won't matter & that a Terrell Pryor-led Raiders squad ain't ever going to be something that will have the league shook.

But that would just be unnecessarily real & could be misconstrued as hate so I'll bypass it.

He's been surprisingly non-awful in the first two games.

like he did yesterday every week it helps.

But those WR's though...

The only reason I stress T.P. is because he's our most important and essential player right now and best playmaker. And in a season of nothing he is the only something to look forward to.

Like I was saying then he was sort of surprising me with how effective he was early but now I'm pretty much leaning towards he-is-who-we-thought-he-is status after actually watching his last couple games.

Granted he may have gotten hurt in the Eagle game but if he can't pass adequately in the pocket or generate offense without using his legs, then there's not much long-term upside.

Racist coaches and mad black QBs do not a fair
agenda make

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

he's very good.

That comment about Josh missing a meeting and a lot of team activities sounded fishy on some, "See he's a lazy son of a bitch." type steez.

>he's very good.
>
>That comment about Josh missing a meeting and a lot of team
>activities sounded fishy on some, "See he's a lazy son of a
>bitch." type steez.

His coach does not like black people. Its not a debate.

Therefore, black QB cannot thrive under asshole white
coach.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

I respect your push here, but if a white QB had Freeman's numbers you'd be saying he is average at best.

24-35 career record

1.21 td/int

78.8 rating

He was ok

>I respect your push here, but if a white QB had Freeman's
>numbers you'd be saying he is average at best.
>
>24-35 career record
>
>1.21 td/int
>
>78.8 rating
>
>He was ok

All QBs have a right to be brought down by shitty teams

I evaluate QBs based on actually watching them play

And the whole Tampa Bay thing is out in the open now,
its a toxic, horrific place to play football

Freeman came out of this looking good

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

But his stats are not great, they are just fine.

Obviously Tampa looks bad, I'm not defending Tampa's handling of the situation.

But to call Freeman fabulous or very good basically discounts his actual play.

He didn't help a bad team win, he barely threw more TDs than interceptions and his rating is ok. That stuff doesn't get effected enough by a bad team.

He is average, ok, fine, mediocre and nothing else. I hope he gets out of the situation and he certainly deserves another chance because many worse qbs than him get more chances, but he is not fabulous by any stretch of the imagination

>he is not fabulous by any stretch of the imagination

I agree with this. I don't think Josh Freeman is a fabulous QB, all things considered. But he DID have one fabulous season, and the context around it makes me think he's not yet done in this league.

His 2010 season, his second year in the league, was pretty objectively fabulous. He completed 61% of his passes for ~3500 yards with 25 TDs against 6 picks. At the age of 22, with his primary weapons being Mike Williams and Arrelious Benn--that's a fabulous year (if this sounds familiar, it's virtually word-for-word ripped from Barnwell's piece last week: http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/75860/the-inevitable-benching-of-josh-freeman).

I'm not arguing with you--you never said he DIDN'T have a fabulous year at one point. And I give not a shit about the whole saga in TB, and whether or not anything is objectively "fair" to anyone involved.

I just think it's worth noting that the list of QBs who got a MUCH longer leash than Freeman and never, ever had a season as good as his 2010 is a loooooooong one.

All of your points are valid and others have gotten a longer leash.

But we can also both name a ton of QBs who had 1 great season and were pretty bad otherwise.

It remains to be seen if that 1 season was potential that can be tapped into, or the peak. Who is to say he isn't just Derek Anderson with 1 magic season?

>Who is to say he isn't just Derek
>Anderson with 1 magic season?

Derek Anderson, Fitzpatrick, etc were gunslingers

Freeman was calm, collected, perceptive and responsible

Big difference

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Your nonstop insisting he is fabulous is making me hate this guy,

Just admit he has played average and just had 1 really good season and then we will agree that he got a raw deal in Tampa and deserves a better chance.

However, I'm not thrilled with our OC, WRs, and O-line this year. It could go either way for him.

I need 38-0 Cam to show up more though...if the OC let him play than its gonna be curtains...

I've always thought Cam did better scrambling than with those designed runs, even though he's money on 3rd and short. If the WRs aren't open, let him use his legs, which usually gets him in a rhythm.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/fifth-quarter-week-10-russell-wilson-colin-kaepernick-060843742--nfl.html

Tannehill got more passing yards than Luck, RG3, Kaep, Cam, and Russell Wilson, a better completion % than all of them save for Russell, and only Cam and Russell have more TDs than him.

Cam, Luck and Tannenhill are fight it out for 2nd


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

>Tannehill got more passing yards than Luck, RG3, Kaep, Cam,
>and Russell Wilson

The first three have all gone thru streches where they've straight sucked...the latter two like to run the ball too

, a better completion % than all of them save for Russell

more than twice as many picks as russ too

>and only Cam and Russell have more TDs than
>him

& more than 25% points behind in QB rating




















I guess this runner up race is kinda fun for yall tho

>>Tannehill got more passing yards than Luck, RG3, Kaep, Cam,
>>and Russell Wilson
>
>The first three have all gone thru streches where they've
>straight sucked...the latter two like to run the ball too

>
>I guess this runner up race is kinda fun for yall tho

I'll take it

>>I guess this runner up race is kinda fun for yall tho

Because he and Russell are the only under-25 QBs with higher QB ratings than Stafford, and I KNOW Eagles fans inexplicably hate Stafford.

YARDS, Fat Stafford, STATford, etc.

>Because he and Russell are the only under-25 QBs with higher
>QB ratings than Stafford, and I KNOW Eagles fans inexplicably
>hate Stafford.
>
>YARDS, Fat Stafford, STATford, etc.

Their breath is bad

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

It'll be fun to see them give Foles the Jrue Holliday treatment in 2014.

Now:

"He's better than your QB/PG, and possibly Top-5."

6 months later...

"He's garbage, our new savior is WAY better than him."

nobody fucked with foles and nobody was big upping bradford.

dunno what this jrue thing is about. he was the lone bright spot on a bad team, but we were all well aware at the hosing hinkie put on new orleans, and that was before the damaja was constantly damaj'ed.

i'm glad he's succeeding, but i'm not sure yet that he's not a product of chip's system. if he finishes strong, cool, he's our guy and i'll ride for him. but if he tails off, i still want us to draft a franchise guy in the first round.

>if he finishes strong, cool, he's
>our guy and i'll ride for him. but if he tails off, i still
>want us to draft a franchise guy in the first round.

keeping an open mind is considered bad

Take your stance now, do not be logical and understand that a few games is enough to make a forever judgement about someone.

>Because he and Russell are the only under-25 QBs with higher
>QB ratings than Stafford, and I KNOW Eagles fans inexplicably
>hate Stafford.
>
>YARDS, Fat Stafford, STATford, etc.

Don't look at the gaudy stats just watch him play.
_________________________________________

Lately I've had the strangest feeling.... that you were GOOOONNNNEEEE

>Don't look at the gaudy stats just watch him play.

The Lions D-Line just dominated the Packers, so I'm hoping we can smack Foles in the face. But the Eagles' O-Line has been very good, and our D-Line is equally as capable of disappearing for 2 weeks at a time as they are of dominating a game, so who the hell knows what will happen.

I actually had forgotten that they play this week before throwing out the Foles-bait, so that will almost certainly bite me in the ass.

And extra onions

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Flashbacks of the Detmer brothers and.. *gulp* The Great Hoying Tragedy is still fresh in our hearts.

Yeah I know NFL record for no picks but TD's in his sights & all and I'm personally excited that he still have more improving to do.. but there nah fuck that. I'M BEING PATIENT, SO STFU!!! >;O

We already had died down the "OMG DREAM TEAM DREAM TEAM DREAM TEAM!!!" hype which also epicly jinxed us for the past couple years we had to struggle to before this season. We're not gonna go from that flavorless humble pie to "LOL OUR QB SHITS ON YOU!!" that quickly...naaaaaaaaah,

...

...well, not until we destroy the souls of Dallas Cowdung come the last Sunday.. and maybe even the week leading to that inevitable beatdown we'll flex

Guess who

Wilson won this won

on some http://images-2.domain.com.au/2011/03/16/2235833/art_battlelosangeles-420x0.jpg

Not with the *skins but in the NFL, that he just doesn't have the talent to make it.

I don't understand why black QBs are still looked at as disposable. It's rare they're given the chance to grow. They have to be a super star or out of the league.

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for them survival tactics and how to stay pulling a check.

naw, knee issues aside, griffin out of the league at age 25 seems a bit extreme. there's still a place for him as a starter, just probably not in the un-endearing spotlight of the beltway/northeast when things go south.

i wouldn't mind the 49ers giving him a look actually. ironically harbaugh recruited RGme in high school to be half of a two-headed QB monster with luck at stanford.

>I don't understand why black QBs are still looked at as
>disposable. It's rare they're given the chance to grow. They
>have to be a super star or out of the league.

He extended his career with the Steelers, who actually
give black people fair chances

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Coaching is holding him back...

I better not see Deangelo Williams ever get another carry as a Panther...

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Malzahn's system has a lot more power running (blocking) for the QB. Seems like a better fit for Cam than Chip's zone style, but the option reads are very similar. Reading zone blocking is kind of an instinctual thing that cant be taught, but id imagine they could make it work even if Cam isnt great at it.

Malzahn also seems to like the deep ball a little more than Chip. But then again Chip never had a QB with Cam's arm.

Definitely interesting thought.

When he's healthy, cam is still a beast. He's just not healthy right now

More than most in this thread can claim.

Hi

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Lolololol
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http://i.imgur.com/Gj5Wy56.jpg

got cut by the Calgary Stampeders.

the rest of those are y'all's tho

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

he might end up the best out of all of them...

I'll take myL on that one

Russell won a ring before Cam and went to another Super Bowl so no. However, Cam is making the case for at least the number two spot. Meanwhile Luck fell off, Kaep and RG3 about to get ran out of town.

It was basically Luck vs Cam vs RG3 with a bunch of side discussions and cyses.

I'd give that one to Bags.

I had Luck/Cam/RG3. Close. Maybe Luck is salvageable going forward.

No one wanted to admit it tho

grand opening, grand closing.

I had Cam, Russ and RGIII (with an injury caveat) vs. Luck
Don't know why I left out Kap at this point, but good.

Hi
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

http://tinyurl.com/hlswqaf

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

(not adjusted for garbage time)

wilson:
7-2-1
66% completions, 11 TD's, 2 INT's
79 yds rushing, 2.0 y/a, 1 TD

kap:
0-5
53% completions, 7 TD's, 2 INT's
260 yds rushing, 7.2 y/a, 1 TD

luck
5-5
63% completions, 19 TD's, 8 INT's
246 yds rushing, 4.8 y/a, 1 TD

cousins:
6-3-1
67% completions, 17 TD's, 7 INT's
47 yds rushing, 2.4 y/a, 1 TD

cam:
4-5
57% completions, 11 TD's, 7 INT's
268 yds rushing, 4.3 y/a, 4 TD
MVP: post-game sulking

2. Newton
3. Luck
4. Cousins
5. Kaepernick

Luck and Newton have nearly identical passing production; Newton gets the edge due to his rushing numbers and Super Bowl appearance. they both have lost years (2015 Luck, 2016 Newton) on their resumes.

Wilson got a lot of credit for a great situation his first two years, but with Lynch gone everything now runs through him. his game at New England was phenomenal.

>Wilson got a lot of credit for a great situation his first two
>years, but with Lynch gone everything now runs through him.
>his game at New England was phenomenal.

for sure.

i know carolina's D probably relaxed a little bit in the second half of the divisional game, up 31-0, but the way wilson put the game on his back and clawed back in it made me a permanent believer.

both are inconsistent and benefit from the talent around them. I guess if Cousins wins a playoff game this year he gets the nod.

Not to mention all the other QBs in this post who aren't even playing now.

Not surprised the peanut gallery would rather just sweep it under the rug.

to make plays in the fourth quarter to get comeback wins. (Even though even at that time he had a good number of fourth quarter comebacks.)

Anyone who said that is a moron

Today he even gave up a pick six on purpose so he could win and add another 4Q comeback to his resume...

but didn't bother to edit again... since he had at least a two-year head start on any guy still active, has a substantial career allocation of empty stats, and relationally has done the least in the 'offs versus time as a starter.

i give him a joker jail clap for this year, tho.

Penalize him for the inept franchise he represents if you would like

But that still doesnt change my headline

Mobile black QB wins the Heisman
Mobile black QB wins the Maxwell Award
Mobile black QB wins the Davey O' Brian Award
Mobile black QB wins the NCAA title
Mobile black QB wins the NFC West
Mobile black QB wins the NFC East
Mobile black QB wins the NFL Rookie of the Year
Mobile black QB wins the NFC Championship
Mobile black QB wins the NFL MVP
Mobile black QB wins the SB

LaMarcus Jackson, DeShaun Watson. Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, J.T. Barrett


TV rating will go down b/c of butt-hurt white folks.

Anyways, on a scale of furious-to-furious tell me how MAD he makes your fellow white brethrens? (It's just b/w you & me)

.

AWKWARD!!!!!