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104044, U said he WILL have the #s to make the case for GOAT regardless of rings
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Jun-03-15 05:15 PM
>couple of days without you smearing my name
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>c'mon fam, you better than that (I hope)
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>what I said, and follow me here, I'm going to type it out
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>read slowly, I'm tired of re-explaining it
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>EFFICIENCY will be his legacy
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>if you PROJECT his career
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>he has A CHANCE at being
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>#1 in points, all-time
>top 10 in assists, all-time
>and top 20 in rebounds, all-time
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>add those up, and it equates to the most efficient player of
>all time.
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>in the era of analytics and stat geeks

No, it equates to the biggest stat stuffer of all time. Jordan's efficiency stats are actually better with a higher PER and WS/48 than lebron. And bron's efficiency #'s will only continue to decline going forward.


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>that will be their case for Bron and GOAT (+ all the hardware,
>you are aware he's won about every award possible at this
>point in his career, including rings)
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>in case you aren't, here's what he's done at 30 Y.O.:
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>2× NBA Champion (2012–2013)
>2× NBA Finals MVP (2012–2013)
>4× NBA Most Valuable Player (2009–2010, 2012–2013)
>11× NBA All-Star (2005–2015)
>2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2006, 2008)
>9× All-NBA First Team (2006, 2008–2015)
>2× All-NBA Second Team (2005, 2007)
>5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009–2013)
>NBA Rookie of the Year (2004)
>NBA scoring champion (2008)
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>yes, rings may not be his legacy*
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>rings are Bill Russell's legacy, for NBA history
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>rings are MJ's legacy, in the modern era, based on his
>incredible runs

Rings AND numbers + hardware are MJ's legacy. Or are you forgetting that he won a record 10 scoring titles, 5 MVPs, DPOY, and has the highest career scoring average in NBA history?

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>given that Bron will probably not execute 2 3-peats in his
>career
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>or win 11 chips
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>and I'll go out on a limb here and say NO ONE WILL
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>that will always give MJ the edge based on JUST rings <---
>that's HIS legacy

No. His legacy is the totality of all his accomplishments (some briefly mentioned above.) the rings are his trump card.

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>now if we consider a player in his 11th season, playing in his
>6th finals
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>I think it's safe to say he gets some more chips
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>how many...IDK
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>*but there is a possibility that he does end up with 6
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>an outside chance, but still a chance
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>so if he does retire ranked all-time in those stats I listed
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>the question is
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>not how many does he win
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>but how many does he need + the stats to be GOAT?

Yeah, that's not what you said.


>BYE!

Bye, liar.