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100720, So A-Hern taken into custody this morning
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Jun-26-13 09:10 AM
Kind of a cysey statement by his lawyer the other day, then this. They must have found something after all that damn searching of his crib. The dudes on NFL Live were saying he will never play another down as a Pat. What yall think at this point.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9424056/aaron-hernandez-new-england-patriots-arrested
100721, He will never play another snap in the NFL, nevermind the Pats.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 09:12 AM
Mufucker is going to jail. They found *some* shit. Took a week to build a solid case. He's done. And he's a fucking moron piece of shit for it. Too bad too cause I really loved his game. Tough to find that type of athlete hybrid TE. Has no one to blame but himself. Fucking clown.
100722, Damn first Fat Joe, now the Make It Rain Hernandez? PR having a
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 09:19 AM
bad week of PR
100723, Officially Released from the Patriots... WOW
Posted by rjc27, Wed Jun-26-13 09:25 AM
honestly did not see that coming this quickly
100724, i was just coming in to post this....
Posted by bleekgilliam_420, Wed Jun-26-13 09:28 AM
i really didnt see it coming either. i wonder if this means more than an obstruction of justice charge is coming, bc usually teams will just suspend a player.
100725, based on the team statement, I think they have a feeling it's a big charge
Posted by rjc27, Wed Jun-26-13 09:30 AM
specifically mentioning that condolences go to the young man who lost his life
100726, the way they brought him in is a bad sign.
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 09:30 AM
plus, it doesn't seem like he's made friends through this process.
100727, FIFTEEN BAGS OF EVIDENCE
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 09:33 AM
100728, everybody this morning said it was grandstanding from the DA
Posted by bleekgilliam_420, Wed Jun-26-13 09:49 AM
still yeah, something isnt adding up.
100729, Should have probably stopped shooting people
Posted by cantball, Wed Jun-26-13 09:25 AM

____________________

Behold my works,ye mighty
100730, didn't even let him put on a shirt on before the cuffs
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 09:27 AM
dude's done
100731, btw I never liked this motherfucker
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 09:30 AM
100732, Hope it was worth it, you stupid piece of shit.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 09:33 AM
100733, Classy move by the Pats
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Wed Jun-26-13 09:45 AM
100734, I hope justice is served.
Posted by KosherSam, Wed Jun-26-13 09:46 AM
100735, got damnnnnnn they released him this is crazy
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 09:49 AM
100736, I Thought This Meant Police Released Him
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jun-26-13 10:06 AM
They didn't hold him so he got released from police custody after a couple of hours

Then I read closer...the PATS released him...holy shit...and these muthafuckas take on head cases left and right
100737, $7.5m cap hit
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 10:04 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/26/pats-will-take-at-least-a-7-5-million-cap-charge-for-hernandez-in-2014/

One of the obvious questions that arise in the aftermath of the Patriots’ decision to cut tight end Aaron Hernandez is the cap consequences, if any, for the move.

While it’s trivial in comparison to the fact that this all stems from the death of Odin Lloyd, it’s relevant information moving forward for the Patriots.

For 2013, the Patriots will carry a $2.5 million charge for the portion of his $12.5 million signing bonus, paid last year. Hernandez’s base salary of $1.323 million is fully guaranteed, and so the cap number will remain $4.073 million unless and until the Patriots can finagle a way to avoid paying him. (Chances are they’ll try.)

Because the move comes after June 1, the balance of the cap charge will apply to 2014. That’s $7.5 million in signing bonus money, and possibly another $1.137 million in guaranteed salary. That’s $8.637 million that the Patriots will carry for Hernandez next year.

The Patriots can, in theory, reduce that money by blocking the guaranteed payment(s) or recovering signing bonus money. As to the bonus money, however, the Patriots have to recover it before they get the cap credit. Also, the decision to release Hernandez could prevent them from getting a penny back in signing bonus money.

The broader question, which we’ll address separately, is that the Patriots made this move without caring about the financial or cap consequences.
100738, Damn @ this picture
Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jun-26-13 10:08 AM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130626103339-hernandez-arrested-t1-wide.jpg
100739, Urban Meyer guy
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 10:13 AM
100740, took you long enough
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jun-26-13 10:18 AM
100741, Was doing due diligence
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 10:18 AM
100742, lol
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 10:25 AM
100743, i mean everybody kills people, murders people, whatever
Posted by 3xKrazy, Wed Jun-26-13 10:39 AM
.
100744, Pats kinda on some bullshit with releasing him, IMO
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 10:16 AM
I don't think they even said what the charges are, officially

and they release him

kind of fucked up IMO

he'll make bail

skate

and who knows when or if this goes to trial

same for the florida incident

nobody knows for sure what's going on

kind of presumptuos IMO

and bitchmade

I'd put money on him playing for another team

before seeing jail time behind any of this
100745, really?
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 10:18 AM
100746, ^
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:19 AM
100747, RE: ^
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 10:20 AM
if this dude got me DEFENDING THE PATRIOTS ...
100748, Hahaha - this made me laugh out loud.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:20 AM
100749, Ha.
Posted by Buck, Wed Jun-26-13 11:02 AM
I'm with ya.
100750, I'm sayin
Posted by Lach, Wed Jun-26-13 11:03 AM
100751, REALLY
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 10:24 AM
how much of their decision was based on media reports?

I would say all of it

because there still haven't been any facts released

and I would think your employer would start with what you've been charged with

?
100752, LOLOLOLOLOL
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:29 AM
>how much of their decision was based on media reports?
>
>I would say all of it

Wait you really think an organizationlike the Patriots would just release a player like that based on word of mouth, without doing their diligence? They know something bro. Just because it hasn't been released to the media doesn't mean more information hasn't been made available or found out by parties that need to know.

You don't pay too much attention to sports do you.
100753, k it's clear you haven't been keeping up with the story
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 10:30 AM
100754, lolz
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 10:21 AM
100755, his star don't shine as bright as ray ray unfortunately
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 10:21 AM
The ravens didnt release ray ray and stood behind him bcz he was a superstar player.. Hernandez is apparently replaceable
100756, His star ain't as bright, for sure, but...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:23 AM
I wouldn't go as far as to say the Patriots think (or that he is) "replaceable". Hard to find that kind of athletic ability and hybrid ability. I'd go as far as to say there hasn't been a player like him in years.
100757, he also DESTROYED EVIDENCE
Posted by thejerseytornado, Wed Jun-26-13 10:24 AM
and likely shot another dude and fuck this all.


-----------
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.
100758, RE: and likely
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 10:28 AM
wouldn't you want to know

for sure?

didn't an NFL player just go through an arrest for an assault or something

just to have the charges dropped later

100759, Dogg people are falsely charged all the time...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:30 AM
most of them don't go destroying cell phones and security cameras and acting all brazen with the cops when questioned, tho.
100760, Destroying Evidence Is The Patriot Way Though
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jun-26-13 11:31 AM
j/k
100761, You wrote JK... but you're not wrong, lol.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Jun-26-13 12:02 PM
That was like a softball underhand lob for that punchline. Can't fault you for taking it.
100762, http://i.imgur.com/1WrX6bL.gif
Posted by Jayson Willyams, Wed Jun-26-13 10:24 AM
>kind of presumptuos IMO
>
>and bitchmade

http://i.imgur.com/1WrX6bL.gif
100763, the pats are a shifty, stealthy org
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-26-13 10:27 AM
if you think their directory of security, doesn't have a degree of separation from the police, and in one way shape form or another they don't know what he's charged with, you're nuts.

the team knows.
100764, like seriously. lawyers talking to lawyers. not to mention AH DROVE
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 10:32 AM
to Gillette Stadium during all the nonsense

suppose he was just trying to get some weights in?
100765, Bob Kraft is a billionaire. Pretty sure he can get access to case details
Posted by KosherSam, Wed Jun-26-13 10:28 AM
I would wager a substantial amount of money that the Pats front office knows CONSIDERABLY more of the details surrounding Hernandez's involvement than you do.
100766, THEY BASED IT OFF WBZ'S COVERAGE!
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 10:30 AM
THEY SO STUPID.
100767, I envision Kraft sitting in front of the TV with his young GF...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:32 AM
watching WBZ News. Sees the helicoptor catch cops arresting a guy in a white t-shirt who looks like Hernandez. Screams "HONEY GET ME THE PHONE". Call to PR guy..."send out a press release. Aaron's gone. I don't like where this might be headed".

The fuck dude.
100768, i would love nothing more
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 10:38 AM
for this to be a mistake and Hernandez is innocent and the Patriots look dumb.

But that's not going to happen.
100769, Of course it's not.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:50 AM
100770, Thank you.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:30 AM
100771, probably has nothing to do with Kraft having access to information
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 10:47 AM
(access to what? they're still building the case probably)
and everything to do with the fact goodell probably told him A.Hen is going to be suspended for multiple seasons regardless
Hernandez might not even face jail time over this even if found guilty if he agrees to testify against his boys...
so it's mainly about the scope of power of the league's ambiguous code of conduct rules and what goodell has probably already decided is going to happen to hernandez regardless of trial outcome
100772, Now *this* isn't a bad point. At all.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 10:51 AM
Goodell is the worst of the worst.
100773, it looks bad for dude but the patriots moved VERY fast on this shit
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 10:33 AM
like you said , who knows when the trial will even begin
or whether or not he possibly ray lewis's his way out of a guilty verdict
this may be a way for the pats to try to get out of the guaranteed money he's owed from the gate
100774, see above, cap hit stays.
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 10:36 AM
100775, Cuanto cuesta?
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 10:42 AM
>I'd put money on him playing for another team
>
>before seeing jail time behind any of this
100776, co-sign, i'm down for this bet
Posted by veritas, Wed Jun-26-13 12:20 PM
100777, Only on OKP. SMFH.
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 11:04 AM
You don't think that Patriots did their own digging into this? I'm sure they knew about the other incident as well where Hernandez SHOT SOMEONE IN THE FACE. Good for them for being proactive. I think they have to know he's going to take a heavy charge or that at the very least he was heavily involved. You don't want to be associated with a MURDER in any way if you are an NFL team. Hernandez also isn't Ray Lewis and he also handled this in the dumbest way you possibly can and he pissed off the authorities enough where they went in and combed his house for every morsel of potential evidence they could find. They're gonna go hard after him.
100778, a couple of things..... obstruction of justice on a murder charge
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 11:51 AM
is a pretty serious crime...


The other thing...Hernandez isn't cooperating with the investigation...


just on the strength of his lack of cooperation, Billichek was right to cut him.

100779, I think people are over reacting to my post...TOKP
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 11:57 AM
my issue is with the Pats cutting him

before anything was made official

the obstruction of justice charge was what was reported

they hadn't officially charged him with anything

before the Pats cut him

and for everyone saying they had inside information

that makes even less sense

why would you act on inside information

and make it so obvious

oh he's in bracelets = deuces

because Bob Kraft is like the dude running the town in RoadHouse or Walking Tall

not only has all of the reports in his hand

but can so blatantly act on them and face no repercussions

c'mon

I think it was bitchmade for them to try to make whatever statement they were going for

when the case hadn't even been presented yet

it feels like they are trying to save face as best they can

at all cost

when they will never change the fact that he was a Patriot

that all

whatever your opinion on Hernandez is

I don't see the benefit in cutting him before he even gets booked

other than completely cosmetic

a couple weeks ago he was family

today he's out with the trash

but as post said below

that's class!
100780, Wow.
Posted by Buck, Wed Jun-26-13 12:02 PM
100781, there was 1 way for Hernandez not to get released because of
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 12:03 PM
this...

that would have been for him to completely cooperate with the investigation, and directly tell the Pats management his involvement.

If they would have felt confident in his explanation they would have just put him on the PUP list and supported him....

Aaron trying to handle this shit on some no-snitchin gangster shit...and the Pats dealt with him like that.
100782, This is a stupid post.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 12:04 PM
The Pats wanted to wipe their hands clean of this mess before it got worse. "Inside information" is the wrong term. The move is not bitch made at all. It's smart to move on before it affects your team. They may have known some things that the media and public were not privy to yet, as they have a right to. Rather than let the questions continue to pour in while the rest of us await an official announcement, they decided to rid themselves of the distraction. It is a smart business move on their part, and not bitch made at all.
100783, since when do NFL teams have to answer to for cutting a player?
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jun-26-13 12:09 PM
they cut anyone they want for any reason they want and even the players union has barely a say in the matter.

and "We didn't want to deal with the media distraction" is a perfect excuse, anyways.

100784, *signs Tim Tebow*
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 12:13 PM
>and "We didn't want to deal with the media distraction" is a
>perfect excuse, anyways.
>
>
100785, i knew that was coming
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jun-26-13 12:27 PM
surprised you beat cere to it though.
100786, well, they need a tight-end or two to start the season
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:30 PM
100787, they don't, but since when can't I have an opinion
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 12:16 PM
man ya'll acting like some bitches

you think this just goes away for the Pats because they cut him?

FOH

this is the slow news cycle for sports

I would expect this story to dominate the headlines this summer

and continue through the upcoming season

this is the beginning
100788, Of course you can have an opinion, and it can be wrong.
Posted by Buck, Wed Jun-26-13 12:18 PM
>you think this just goes away for the Pats because they cut
>him?

Why wouldn't it?

>I would expect this story to dominate the headlines this
>summer

For what reason?

>and continue through the upcoming season

Why?
100789, since when can't I disagree with your opinion?
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jun-26-13 12:34 PM
>man ya'll acting like some bitches

lol.

>
>you think this just goes away for the Pats because they cut
>him?

pretty much.

>
>this is the slow news cycle for sports

that exists?

>
>I would expect this story to dominate the headlines this
>summer

sure, because it involves a high profile person and murder/destruction of evidence, but that has nothing to do with the pats. it'll come up, but there will be A LOT less questions for the coaches and players about this since the org. has disowned him already. they saw a shit storm coming and bailed as soon as possible. can't blame 'em.
100790, base but you probably knew what the reaction was going to be when
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 12:24 PM
u posted it
or at least u should have lol
it's the day of the arrest and the tone was set in this thread before u even replied
under certain circumstances replies on this board are very predictable
thus "TOKPR"
that being said a couple ppl from boston in my feed are irked about the speed of the decision
but it prolly doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things
nigga was getting suspended and cut regardless
like u said the timing is more about them creating distance , as is their right imo
100791, The NE Patriots have no comment on an ongoing poilice investigation
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 12:51 PM
and will defer comment until all the facts of the case are revealed

We hope Mr Hernandez will be cleared of the accusations brought against him

and we leave his fate in the hands of the law...

They could have easily made a statement like this

which is what we typically see in legal cases

but they jumped right in with both feet

immediately

I don't see how that benefits NE

regardless of previous replies

its NOT going to make the situation disappear

its NOT going to make the media frenzy go away

and the story is just going to build from here

as the facts do come out

can you imagine what a shit show this could turn into if other players become involved

or were ever at his house, etc...

I'm sure members of the Patriots will be contacted for testimony, etc...
100792, The sooner they cut him, the sooner it disappears off their radar...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:03 PM
will it happen right away? No. But had they waited til September when he is convicted, it will only prolong the questions they have to answer. Cut him now, and hope that by the time he's convicted they are no longer answering questions since they cut ties with him months prior.

It's common sense, really.
100793, he is now FORMER PATRIOT TE AARON HERNANDEZ
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:08 PM
Not "Patriot's TE Aaron Hernandez."
100794, Exactly.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:12 PM
I honestly can't believe we are still having this conversation.
100795, How much did you pay for your Delorean?
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 01:18 PM
nothing they do now will change the fact that he was a NE Patriot

if this goes to trial, players, coaches, sheeiit, The Almighty Bob Kraft himself will be called to testify

you think they just say, well we cut him, so fuck your subpoena

c'mon

only thing this did was make a public statement that they don't condone his actions

and as WC posted above

perhaps they advised him on how to conduct himself during the investigation

and took issue with how he acted

I mean, it's not like they didn't know about the shooting in February

if they were really on some moral high ground

why not cut him then?

they did this to save face in the court of public opinion

which IMO

is kind of bullshit and bitchmade

they had no problem with dude, until everybody knew about his issues

remember, Bob Kraft is the Almighty

he had to have known about the shooting incident early this year

why not do this then?

Aaron will always be associated with the NE Patriots

NOTHING will change that

unless you want to jump in your Delorean and not draft him
100796, RE: How much did you pay for your Delorean?
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:24 PM
>nothing they do now will change the fact that he was a NE
>Patriot
>
>if this goes to trial, players, coaches, sheeiit, The Almighty
>Bob Kraft himself will be called to testify

Wait wait wait - the entire organization is going to testify about a crime they had no knowledge of nor involvement in? What the hell are you talking about??


>you think they just say, well we cut him, so fuck your
>subpoena
>
>c'mon
>
>only thing this did was make a public statement that they
>don't condone his actions
>
>and as WC posted above
>
>perhaps they advised him on how to conduct himself during the
>investigation
>
>and took issue with how he acted
>
>I mean, it's not like they didn't know about the shooting in
>February
>
>if they were really on some moral high ground
>
>why not cut him then?
>
>they did this to save face in the court of public opinion
>
>which IMO
>
>is kind of bullshit and bitchmade
>
>they had no problem with dude, until everybody knew about his
>issues
>
>remember, Bob Kraft is the Almighty
>
>he had to have known about the shooting incident early this
>year
>
>why not do this then?
>
>Aaron will always be associated with the NE Patriots
>
>NOTHING will change that
>
>unless you want to jump in your Delorean and not draft him

You're just blabbering at this point. Worthless to continue this conversation with you. None of what you're saying makes any sense whatsoever. You are alone in this opinion. What's the temperature on your planet?
100797, why not cut him after he shot someone in the face?
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 01:27 PM
simple question
100798, you're a confused person in general aren't you?
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:28 PM
100799, It would seem so.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:32 PM
100800, Because he wasn't arrested and the claim was unfounded at the time.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:31 PM
Now, why the hell would the entire Patriots' organization be summonsed to court to testify in the case of a murder they had no involvement in or knowledge of ?
100801, oh, they were waiting for actual proof...Okay Player
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 01:35 PM
well like I said

we don't know any of the details of this case

I'd venture to say the defense may call some professional associates as character witnesses

I'm sure Belicheat and Krafty did some kind of evaluation and interview of Hernandez during the draft process

and offering him a contract extension

do we know if he associated with players off the field

if they were guests at his house

anyway, like I said, this is the beginning

cutting him doesn't change his association with the Patriots

and as the legal proceedings get underway

the story will continue to involve the Patriots

to what extent is to be seen

you know, as actual evidence becomes available

they need proof for the Florida incident

but not the Mass incident

FOH

they cut him because it became public

that all
100802, RE: oh, they were waiting for actual proof...Okay Player
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:41 PM
No, they were waiting for him to be arrested. Did you ever hear anything in the media about this shooting in February? No, you didn't. Patriots therefore weren't dealing with a media shitstorm.

>well like I said
>
>we don't know any of the details of this case
>
>I'd venture to say the defense may call some professional
>associates as character witnesses
>
>I'm sure Belicheat and Krafty did some kind of evaluation and
>interview of Hernandez during the draft process
>
>and offering him a contract extension
>
>do we know if he associated with players off the field
>
>if they were guests at his house

All speculation. I would bet you the fact that they cut him makes this a non-issue for the Patriots going forward. But I'd rather not deal with you in the future so I won't officially make a bet offer.

>
>anyway, like I said, this is the beginning
>
>cutting him doesn't change his association with the Patriots
>
>and as the legal proceedings get underway
>
>the story will continue to involve the Patriots
>
>to what extent is to be seen

Yep. You said it yourself. All speculation.


>you know, as actual evidence becomes available
>
>they need proof for the Florida incident
>
>but not the Mass incident
>
>FOH

They needed an arrest. You cannot read.


>they cut him because it became public
>
>that all

They cut him because he got arrested. Were they to only cut him when "it became public" he would've been cut June 17.

You ARE confused, aren't you?
100803, do you think the pats have had a convo with hern since this popped off?
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:42 PM
have you?
100804, WC posted that assumption above
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 01:55 PM
again, I'm not questioning the Patriots right to cut him

or even doing so

I'm questioning when they did it

the post we are replying to reads

TAKEN INTO CUSTODY

he wasn't charged with anything yet

and I'm not as polished on my legal jargon as some

but does that constitute an arrest?

or does he actually have to be charged with the crime before it becoming an official arrest

as you can see from the timeline in the replies

the Patriots cut him the second he was in bracelets

= public image

I'm not really buying any other spin

including the obstruction charges

because that was news days ago

if they cut him because he disregarded their advice

that would have already happened

if they cut him because he was arrested

well, that acually hadn't happened yet

Krafty pulled the trigger when the image was on the TV

and it became the news story of the day

that all
100805, Who in here denied it was for PR reasons?
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:56 PM
And who can blame them for doing it for that reason above all else? They are a multi-million dollar organization. They have things to protect. PR is a huge part of that.

You are all over the place bro. Just give it up. Seriously.
100806, they cut him after they talked to him.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:57 PM
maybe hernandez told them he did it? lol

whatever the case, the pats ain't like it and cut him. Completely understandable unless you know what was said.
100807, Thing Is Though
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jun-26-13 12:54 PM
He shot his boy in the face a WEEK before this shit hit the fan
There's only so much the team is gonna tolerate

Not to mention that he wasn't the most liked dude in the locker room. His talent was the biggest reason he was still on the team
100808, I have questions about that case too...
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 12:58 PM
This incident happened in February?

and is there no criminal charges being filed in that case

as I understood it

dude was suing him

but f'd up the paperwork

and is refiling

I would think there would be criminal charges for shooting someone in the face?
100809, lollerskates
Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Jun-30-13 03:15 PM

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100810, #81 jerseys.............gone. http://t.co/ps03z3uFvH
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 10:34 AM
Pats aint fkn around.. http://t.co/ps03z3uFvH
100811, GATDAYUM!
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jun-26-13 10:38 AM
I AIN'T FUCKIN PLAYIN!! (c) Redman
100812, Patriots: "Collaborative decision"
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 10:43 AM
Kraft, Bill key decision makers.
100813, I wonder how Hernandez found out about being cut by the Pats...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 11:15 AM
I envision the cops listening to 98.5 The Sports Hub while they drove to the station. They announce it and the cops in the front seat look back like "ouch...welllll this is awkward.....why don't we just put on Matty in the Morning eh??....."
100814, I'm sure the detectives will use that as a grilling tactic
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 11:19 AM
BELICHICK'S NOT HERE TO PROTECT YOU ANYMORE HERNANDEZ

NOW TELL ME WHERE THE MURDER WEAPON IS
100815, Haha - word to this.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 11:22 AM
100816, that is a hilarious image
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 11:48 AM
Learning about it from Gresh and Zo.
100817, The Pats waived all rights to recoup money...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 11:19 AM
for bonuses paid or salary under the CBA. WOW.
100818, Kinda classy move on their part
Posted by EmDub, Wed Jun-26-13 11:32 AM
100819, ^^^ FOLKS WE FOUND THIS POST'S ONE OPTIMIST
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 11:33 AM
of course he's from Boston lol
100820, That was kind of a joke
Posted by EmDub, Thu Jun-27-13 02:30 PM
I'm not a Patriots/football players can do no wrong kind of guy.


----------
I Love That Dirty Water...Boston Your My Home
100821, That's serious hand-washing. They're doing him like Chris Benoit.
Posted by Buck, Wed Jun-26-13 12:07 PM
No records left unscrubbed.
100822, Hernandez being held without bail. This is bad.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 11:25 AM
He is a murderer.
100823, don't know if it's without bail until AFTER his arraignment.
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 11:52 AM
100824, ^Perry Mason
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 11:53 AM
100825, The arraignment was to take place in Attleboro, MA...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 11:56 AM
*prior* to his being taken to Bristol, CT, to be held without bail.
100826, being arraigned sets your bail. The arraignment ain't happened
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 12:00 PM
yet.
100827, I stand corrected. My bad.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 12:05 PM
100828, The Bengals on Line 1.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Jun-26-13 12:03 PM
100829, Line 1 of what?
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 12:08 PM
100830, Nah, not yet. He hasn't been convicted of anything.
Posted by Buck, Wed Jun-26-13 12:08 PM
100831, Gresham and Eifert says fuck no!!!
Posted by MaxPtah, Wed Jun-26-13 07:54 PM
100832, He casually spit into some bushes on his way to the car.
Posted by Drizzit, Wed Jun-26-13 12:11 PM
JOURNALISM!

GUILTY!

(yougottabefuckinkiddinme)
100833, Any word on whether Pippen's daughter was hidin in them bushes?
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 12:49 PM
100834, now the dumbass is willfully giving evidence.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:32 PM
:-)
100835, according to this story, he has to clear waivers
Posted by Playa_Politician, Wed Jun-26-13 12:28 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/patriots-release-aaron-hernandez-significant-salary-cap-financial-154044125.html


can team pick him up on the cheap? like the patriots have to pay out all this dough and a team can pick him up for just his base salary, no bonuses?
100836, what team? the Walpole Warriors?
Posted by new jarooz ryan, Wed Jun-26-13 01:00 PM
>can team pick him up on the cheap? like the patriots have to
>pay out all this dough and a team can pick him up for just his
>base salary, no bonuses?
100837, word is Craft was gonna do this regardless....
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 01:09 PM
they were not happy with the lack of cooperation Hernandez was showing in this.... Regardless of the charges, or the arrest..the Pats were ready to move on once the opportunity availed itself.
100838, It's KRAFT like the mac and cheese you eat for dinner.
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:11 PM
100839, I don't eat mac and cheese out the box...the wife makes homemade
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 01:16 PM
she could win master chef with it...lol.
100840, shit, send me some.
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:23 PM
100841, lol @ this exchange
Posted by CyrenYoung, Wed Jun-26-13 01:44 PM

*skatin' the rings of saturn*

..and miles to go before i sleep...
100842, I had a bet going with my friend to this effect...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:14 PM
I said that Belichick may not agree, but the Krafts would cut his ass regardless of whether he ever got arrested or not. My friend said fuck that, why not let the legal system play out. I said it's just not how the Krafts roll. We had $100 on it. Unfortunately he was arrested first so the bet was void.
100843, The reports I've seen say
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:16 PM
"if" he was arrested:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/26/patriots-decided-last-week-to-cut-hernandez-if-he-was-arrested/

who knows
100844, Word.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:25 PM
100845, live feed of court room
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:23 PM
http://www.necn.com/pages/necn_streampage
100846, I'm watching. This whole sitch is still surreal
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:33 PM
100847, are they gonna let him put his arms in his sleeves?
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:33 PM
100848, we'll find out
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:34 PM
100849, Bubbalicious Blue Cotton Candy Gum & a pack of Black & Milds
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 01:53 PM
Keepin it thuro
100850, posession of large capacity firearms? is that what i heard?
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:42 PM
TWICE?!
100851, they charged this man with murder my GOD
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:42 PM
100852, pats shoulda cut him NOOOOOW!!! (c) bentagain
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:43 PM
100853, Hahahahaha - exactly. Fucking clown.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:46 PM
100854, RE: Hahahahaha - exactly
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-26-13 03:12 PM
Exactly

had they waited a couple hours

I wouldn't have had any issues

I don't think anybody thought he was going to be charged with murder

this escalated real fast

so I'll chill for now

...for now

100855, RE: Hahahahaha - exactly
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-26-13 04:45 PM
>Exactly
>
>had they waited a couple hours
>
>I wouldn't have had any issues
>
>I don't think anybody thought he was going to be charged with
>murder
>
The Patriots probably did at the latest by the time they came to his house & arrested him, which not uncoincidentally was shortly before the time they decided to cut ties despite the financial hit they'd be taking doing so.

>this escalated real fast
>
>so I'll chill for now
>
>...for now
>
>
100856, found with keys to the car registered to Hernandez
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:48 PM
Found five bullet shells from semi-auto weapon.
100857, murder is the case that they gave him
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:42 PM
100858, IT'S MURDA!!!(c)Ja
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:43 PM
100859, ruh roh.
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-26-13 01:44 PM
a semi-auto
multiple gunshot wounds?

nigga....
100860, BREH
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:44 PM
100861, I mean we all agree he probably did this right
Posted by Tiger Woods, Wed Jun-26-13 01:44 PM
100862, i can tell by the look on his face right now.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:46 PM
100863, the look on his lawyer's face too
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 02:08 PM
100864, dude is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Wed Jun-26-13 01:48 PM
murder plus gun charges plus the connections here.

i wont go so far as to say that he did it, but his chances of acquittal aren't looking so hot.
100865, Yea of course he did.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:48 PM
Bertrand on 98.5 The Sports Hub out of Boston made a good point earlier. The narrative on Hernandez his whole career so far has been "immense talent, questionable character, hangs out with the wrong people...". But what hasn't gotten enough attention has been the possibility that he, himself, IS that "wrong person"...nahmean? Turns out it's probly true.
100866, Prosecutor: Police have #Hernandez on tape with firearm
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:51 PM
and saying "you can't trust anyone anymore" before picking up Lloyd.

WHAT THA FUCK
100867, and they finna use his surveillance equip against him? SHIT
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-26-13 01:48 PM
100868, I've never seen an L rolled with a black and mild
Posted by Tiger Woods, Wed Jun-26-13 01:50 PM
100869, Aahahahahaha.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 01:52 PM
100870, I was thinking that same thing...
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jun-26-13 02:21 PM
Everyone that I know that smokes Blacks, also smokes weed.
And a lot of people I know that smoke weed, aren't necessarily opposed to Blacks...
But I have never heard of anyone rolling weed in a B&M.
100871, i'm no expert
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:51 PM
but they pieced together a lot of evidence here.
100872, dude they've got everything. I've never seen anything like this.
Posted by Tiger Woods, Wed Jun-26-13 01:52 PM
100873, the text messages tho got damn
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:53 PM
100874, NSA
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 01:57 PM
100875, I know, right! Cell towers and surveillance cameras tracking.
Posted by Ausar72, Wed Jun-26-13 01:56 PM
Crazy!
100876, they got his gum.
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 01:59 PM
100877, Bubblalicious though?
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jun-26-13 02:22 PM
What adult chews that?
100878, Bubblalicious is still the bomb @ any age bruh
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 02:34 PM
>What adult chews that?
100879, too many calories
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 02:58 PM
100880, no such thing
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 05:14 PM
100881, GATDAYUM! They Pulling Shit From CELL TOWERS?!
Posted by RexLongfellow, Wed Jun-26-13 03:55 PM
They trying to catch him AND Stringer Bell
100882, Will the court take into account how well he catches football tho?
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 01:51 PM
100883, judge gonna postpone case until after the season, then drafts AH in his
Posted by Playa_Politician, Wed Jun-26-13 02:25 PM
FFL league
100884, and homeboy sent his sis a text w/ NFL. Just so you know.
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-26-13 01:53 PM
SHIIIIIIIIIIT.
100885, What does that mean?
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 01:53 PM
100886, he was telling his sis who he was with
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 01:54 PM
he sent her "with Aaron Hernandez" or something and she said "who?" he replied "NFL" and "just so you know"
100887, OH SHIT!! I came in late and thought those were from Ahern
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 01:55 PM
got it now.
100888, Idiot prosecutor said it wrong
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 02:08 PM
I KNEW I heard that right.

100889, nah the dude was texting his sis
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 11:24 AM
100890, Right but he said defendant and corrected it to victim at the end
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 10:31 PM
When I came in I was mad confused
100891, they shot him in his nipples?
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:55 PM
that's cold.
100892, Cameraman gettin them reaction shots
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 01:58 PM
classy
100893, the shell casings matched? JESUS CHRIST.
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-26-13 01:59 PM
100894, wait, what was the relevence of the blue bubblescious gum
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 01:59 PM
how the hell do you spell bubblelicious anyway?
100895, Haha. Bro they found his gum chewed. It's relevant.
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 02:00 PM
n/m
100896, I think they found it in the car with a shell
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 02:01 PM
and in a dumpster with a shell

dumbass. (him, not you)
100897, Sidenote: I've never had non-watermelon flavored bubblicious
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jun-26-13 02:06 PM
Everytime I go to grab some, I take a sniff of the watermelon and it's a wrap.
100898, I used to always get blueberry or strawberry
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 02:08 PM
100899, cotton candy is nice
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 02:08 PM
100900, I always go with Starwberry
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-26-13 02:25 PM
It's probably the only type of gum I chew, and I only get some right before I get on a plane. The pressure change during the descent always fucks with me something terrible.
100901, they aren't as good
Posted by thejerseytornado, Wed Jun-26-13 05:34 PM
watermelon is the best by far.

-----------
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.
100902, They got his fingerprints on some stray Big League Chew
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 02:38 PM
found in the vehicle

and a roll of Bubble Tape with gunpowder residue was recovered from his residence
100903, lol
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 02:47 PM
100904, some of his DNA on the Lik-M-Aid they found
Posted by J_Stew, Wed Jun-26-13 04:14 PM
mixed with the gunpowder. some of his urine on a half eaten pack of gummi bears in the trunk too
100905, Authorities were not able to recover any fingerprints from a large
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 04:52 PM
unopened tub of black licorice, but a yankee cap and a patriots jersey both recovered from the trunk link the rental car to Hernandez' hometown in CT
100906, coroner noted abrasions consistent with licorice whips.
Posted by poetx, Fri Jun-28-13 12:03 PM
this nigga the real life version of the lollipop gang from the wizard of oz. twistin niggas up w/ all kindsa candy and goodies an shit.

muhfucka, i will break your jaw w/ a pack of jawbreakers. shank you with a sharpened chic-o-stix type nigga.

don't make me go to the trunk for the jolly ranchers. UON'T want that.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
100907, IT'S MURDA (c)
Posted by vik, Wed Jun-26-13 02:00 PM
somebody get ja on the phone

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9424056/aaron-hernandez-new-england-patriots-charged-murder
100908, Well that escalated quickly. Cotdamn, not looking good for Aaron
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jun-26-13 02:02 PM
Obviously it's all circumstantial evidence but there's almost an overwhelming amount of links.
100909, this dude got rid of some of the evidence and said "good enough."
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jun-26-13 02:04 PM
100910, fully loaded rifle. this modern warfare ass nigga.
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-26-13 02:04 PM
100911, were the other 2 dudes arrested too?
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 02:05 PM
ray lewis was charged with murder too in his situation
at this point shit boils down to whether or not hernandez can convince one of the other two dudes to eat the charge then make a deal for obstruction of justice charge
100912, I was trying to figure that out
Posted by B.J.S.301, Wed Jun-26-13 02:08 PM
Seems like they might still be looking for the other two....
100913, It's pretty clear that the other two doods are cooperating...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 02:09 PM
and indicating him at this point. Not sure they'll all of a sudden agree to side with Hernandez and help a brotha out.
100914, thought i heard the prosecutor in the bail argument say
Posted by themaddfapper, Wed Jun-26-13 02:11 PM
that one of the reasons he needs to have no bail is that he allowed 2 individuals to flee the jurisdiction.

100915, I thought I heard that too. We all just need a recap lol
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jun-26-13 02:11 PM
100916, They are still looking for the other two. According to the stream...
Posted by B.J.S.301, Wed Jun-26-13 02:26 PM
100917, Hm didn't hear that, you may be right...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 02:12 PM
100918, link?
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 02:15 PM
how is it pretty clear?
most of the articles i'm reading aren't even mentioning the other 2 dudes at this point
hernandez is the story obviously, when ray lewis shit happened it was the same spin basically
just wondering if those guys are suspects at this point
if 4 guys got in the whip then i'd imagine the 3 living dudes are all suspects (or should be)
100919, Yea I'm actually gonna backtrack...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 02:32 PM
as I didn't hear them right. Turns out these other two guys may have skipped town. I heard wrong. My b.
100920, Wait nevermind. I will not backtrack...
Posted by Brew, Wed Jun-26-13 02:46 PM
all they said was that Hernandez assisted in allowing the other two to "flee the jurisdiction," which means back to CT where they're all from.
They still could have cooperated since then. Nothing indicates that they haven't. Clearly I'm speculating but some of the evidence they presented (i.e. conversations had in the car between the 4 doods) could only be obtained from the other 2 guys.
100921, They haven't found the two guys yet.
Posted by B.J.S.301, Wed Jun-26-13 03:53 PM
They still need other witnesses to make the case more concrete. What you are talking about there is information they gathered from cell phone records.
100922, I don't recall Ray Lewis ever being charged with first-degree murder
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-26-13 02:30 PM
and being held without bail.

LOL @ this dude being able to convince someone to eat a murder charge for him.
100923, u right....he was charged with two first degree murders (swipe)
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 04:30 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/01/10/ray-lewis-baltimore-ravens-atlanta-murder-2000/1566198/
http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-raylewis,0,798489.storygallery
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2000/01/31/lewis_murder_ap/
http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-lewisbail020200,0,65054.story(he was denied bail too...don't remember that but...)

at least google the shit before you run up in the spot loud and wrong as usual
100924, LOL-he GOT BAIL & they WERE NOT 1st degree, @ least read the shit u link
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-26-13 04:37 PM
for those details before babbling some devil's advocate bullshit.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-lewisreturns021500,0,7505343.story
100925, from ur link....
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jun-26-13 09:47 PM
"Lewis, who has been held without bail since Jan. 31 in the deaths of two men"

stop being dumb dude
100926, from your post.....he was charged with two first-degree murders
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-27-13 08:14 AM
when? where?

that was a fight that ended in a stabbing death of two men.

this is a premeditated murder with a timeline.

they were holding Lewis to get him to cough up information.

here all signs point to Hernandez actually being the ringleader & the triggerman.

That's the difference(c)
100927, Originally held without...the on appeal got out
Posted by EmDub, Thu Jun-27-13 07:43 AM
I think they said $1 million bond.

Which will probably happen here too, they said the judge was being cautious with the original no bail.
100928, be happy to wager against him getting bail before this trial, lemme kno
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-27-13 02:15 PM
>I think they said $1 million bond.
>
>Which will probably happen here too, they said the judge was
>being cautious with the original no bail.
100929, lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 02:25 PM
100930, I have no horse in this race
Posted by EmDub, Thu Jun-27-13 02:28 PM
Just stating a fact about Lewis.

Also, a prominent attorney from Boston was on the radio this morning and laid out a pretty good case to give him bail.

Apparently his lawyers made sure to let the cops know his every move after they got involved as a premeditated measure to request eventual bail. Now the new info may change things.
100931, neither do I but I'm happy to make the 'no bail' one my horse
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-27-13 03:40 PM
if you wanna put up on it. This dude ain't getting out pre or likely post-trial.
100932, I hope your right
Posted by EmDub, Fri Jun-28-13 07:27 AM
Hope he never sees another day of freedom.
100933, The other 2 dudes are on the run son
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 02:37 PM
>ray lewis was charged with murder too in his situation
>at this point shit boils down to whether or not hernandez can
>convince one of the other two dudes to eat the charge then
>make a deal for obstruction of justice charge

They aint eatin shit but fast food on the low
100934, He looks like he would like to shoot the prosecutor in the nipples
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 02:07 PM
Then leave the gun in the urinal after he pees on it
100935, lmao
Posted by KosherSam, Wed Jun-26-13 02:12 PM
100936, *dead*
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 02:49 PM
100937, Let's not jump to conclusions people
Posted by Kira, Wed Jun-26-13 02:13 PM
Aaron has a legal team ready to fight this.
100938, He ain't that rich....
Posted by B.J.S.301, Wed Jun-26-13 03:59 PM
That motherfucker is going to jail. If they catch the other two and they start talking, he's done for.....
100939, Pinch and roll
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 02:14 PM
you all saw that
100940, no bail
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 02:14 PM
100941, Not even Adam Vinatieri can bail out this Patriot.
Posted by Oak27, Wed Jun-26-13 02:20 PM
100942, should the pats have cut him now or still too soon
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-26-13 02:49 PM
100943, they need to stop being so bitchmade
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 02:51 PM
at least see what shape he comes to training camp in
100944, lol
Posted by Lach, Wed Jun-26-13 03:05 PM
100945, Guilty until proven broke - Johnny Cochran
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 02:52 PM
and this nigga does not have that Orenthal money
100946, all circumstantial...until
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 02:57 PM
them other cats start SNITCHIN!!!!!!
100947, they already snitchin....prosecutor is talking about what was said
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 08:57 PM
during certain conversations...that can only come from his boys telling

100948, smh @ the DA asking anyone w/ info to send an "anonymous text"
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 03:01 PM
cmon son
100949, pretty much established that there ain't no such thing
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 03:09 PM
100950, right?!?! & if lloyd was killed for snitchin on that other incident...
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-26-13 03:19 PM
...sorry DA you're on your own w/ this one
100951, http://www.cityofboston.gov/police/crimeprevention/crimstop_mobile_terms.asp
Posted by laizquierda, Wed Jun-26-13 04:36 PM
http://www.cityofboston.gov/police/crimeprevention/crimstop_mobile_terms.asp

Privacy

No mobile phone information is collected by the Boston Police
Department as part of this program. Your text tip is completely
anonymous to the Boston Police Department and is only traceable by you
via a six-digit tip code that will be provided to you. Any information
you submit is shared with the Boston Police Department Crime Stoppers
Unit and relevant Boston Police Department investigative officers.


it's anonymous by rule, not by technical ability
100952, THE RENTAL CAR HAD CASINGS IN IT?
Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jun-26-13 04:43 PM
How is this man so fucking stupid?

How did he even make it this far in life?
100953, chill they always hit it with the heavy duty vaccuum when you return it
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 04:53 PM
plus I bought the $15 per day basic insurance
100954, lmao
Posted by Buck, Wed Jun-26-13 05:03 PM
100955, sad part is he probably said that out loud when returning it
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jun-26-13 05:17 PM
100956, he probably anonomously texted it to his girlfriend.
Posted by thejerseytornado, Wed Jun-26-13 05:34 PM

-----------
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.
100957, i'm shocked he didn't check in on Foursquare
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 06:42 PM
"Aaron Hernandez is at INDUSTRIAL PARK BEHIND HIS HOUSE"
100958, RE: i'm shocked he didn't check in on Foursquare
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jun-26-13 06:50 PM
@AaronHernandez: Just smashed my security cams, should b good now, lol. good night twitter.
100959, i bet a dead body looks cool on instagram
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 07:00 PM
vintage filter and shit
100960, on FB asking friends the best way to get bloodstains out
Posted by J_Stew, Wed Jun-26-13 08:01 PM
100961, tagged both his buddies in it
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 08:12 PM
and the victim
100962, Lol. You guys are killin me
Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jun-26-13 11:18 PM
100963, LMAO!!!
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Thu Jun-27-13 07:23 AM
100964, staus - chillin at the crib. might go murder some ni&&as.
Posted by poetx, Fri Jun-28-13 12:09 PM
dude casual af about the shit.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
100965, lol...man, shut yo ass up...you wildin
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Jun-26-13 05:29 PM
.
100966, POST JACK: List your A-Hern themed fantasy football team names
Posted by Deebot, Wed Jun-26-13 05:27 PM
I'm claiming the rights to "A-Hern's Murda Goons"
100967, Aarenthals Juice
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 05:50 PM
100968, Nice!
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 06:53 PM
I like it. ::golf clap::
100969, Aaron Out Catchin Cases
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 07:08 PM
100970, Pat Down Projects
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 07:12 PM
100971, Spygate Karma Police
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 07:13 PM
100972, 81 Problems and a Snitch Is One
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 07:17 PM
100973, Hern Gully: The Last Rain For Us
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 07:18 PM
100974, +1
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jun-26-13 09:31 PM
100975, Blue Bubblegum Killaz
Posted by Deebot, Wed Jun-26-13 07:22 PM
100976, Rainman's Redzone Gum Drops
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 07:26 PM
100977, GunGum Style
Posted by Tiger Woods, Wed Jun-26-13 07:29 PM
100978, yes
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Wed Jun-26-13 09:38 PM
100979, Boston Bubblegum Bandits
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Jun-26-13 07:30 PM
100980, Aarons Incriminators
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 08:08 PM
100981, North Attelboro Cleaners
Posted by JS, Wed Jun-26-13 11:52 PM
100982, A-Hern Do It Yourself Rentals
Posted by blueeclipse, Thu Jun-27-13 12:04 AM
Can't believe we missed this one. lmao.
100983, Bristol Bloods
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jun-27-13 12:05 AM

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
100984, How to Kill Friends and Give Influence to Tebow
Posted by J_Stew, Thu Jun-27-13 01:33 AM
100985, Crazy as a foxbororo
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Thu Jun-27-13 07:27 AM
.
100986, wouldcha su woo woo woo
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Thu Jun-27-13 07:30 AM
100987, lulz
Posted by JohnnyKilroy, Thu Jun-27-13 02:41 PM
100988, Bubbavicious
Posted by jigga, Thu Jun-27-13 10:56 AM
100989, Tight End No More
Posted by gusto, Sun Jun-30-13 01:37 AM
nh
100990, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNuDROsCQAA5VgY.jpg
Posted by Metal Face, Wed Jun-26-13 06:18 PM
Texts going back and forth from Hernandez to his friends to "get your asses up here". Hernandez says in the house that "he can't trust anyone anymore" shortly before they leave. Left the house, bought stuff at a gas station, arrived at Lloyd's home. Lloyd got in the car, proceeded down Fayston St(caught on video), tracks the car through the city of Boston, got on 95, went back to North Attleboro. Hernandez is upset with Lloyd after the previous night at the club, can't trust him, is mad at what Lloyd is telling people, Lloyd sends text to his mom and sister saying did you see who i am with after 3:22, sends another text to his mom saying Just so you know who I am with NFL, 3:22 am they go by Seekonk Supply, they go by Metal working near his home but they go a different way behind the industrial buildings. Car is down there at 3:23 AM. Between 3:23 and 3:27 AM people working in buildings hear gun shots approx. 5. 3:28 N Attleboro Electric Department picks up video of him. Distance of home to homicide site is 2 minutes. 5 shell casings recovered from scene. Rigor mortis and position of body found is consistent with this timeframe and nature of where the crime was committed. Dug under his body and found that he had been shot when he was down on the ground after initial gunshots. 45 caliber weapon casings found and matched to the gun. At 3:27 AM when Hernandez left, the direction he traveled was consistent to the direction he need to go in order to go home. Surveillance shows him and 2 associates leaving the vehicle upon arrival to home. Hernandez seen carrying the gun and goes to walk through home with it. All go down to basement and they shut off the surveillance. 5:30 pm they go to the car rental to return car and there is damage to car but was not damage earlier in the night. Denies all knowledge of damage. Trade in rental for Chrysler 300 and go home. 2 guys with him leave in that car. Found shell casing under the drivers seat and gum he offered rental attendant. They call cleaners over to clean house and car. Police seized dumpster where everything was thrown out and found a shell casing. Evidence shows Lloyd was killed right as he left the car. Tire marks match Nissan Altima Hernandez rented. His friends tried to get rid of the gun under a car
100991, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waf46eBajkw
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-26-13 06:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waf46eBajkw
100992, i love how he apparently
Posted by cereffusion, Wed Jun-26-13 06:41 PM
has the idea to shut off surveillance but not before carrying a gun around his house.
100993, looks like he remembered to stop right quick and take a selfie
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 06:47 PM
before getting rid of the murder weapon..in the mirror like..

"I DEEED THAT!!!"
100994, jesus christ, shortest fucking trial ever.
Posted by KosherSam, Wed Jun-26-13 07:00 PM
100995, Reminds me of the "orgy of evidence" scene in Minortiy report
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jun-26-13 10:22 PM
But this isn't a setup...and real fucking life.
100996, They gonna get him on a bribery charge w/ that gum too
Posted by jigga, Thu Jun-27-13 09:44 AM
Found shell casing
>under the drivers seat and gum he offered rental attendant.
100997, hern was probably trying to frame him.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:46 AM
When the attendant said no, his plan was blown to shreds and he had to improvise.
100998, oh fuck me LMAO I have tears in my eyes
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 10:22 AM
100999, i wonder what the house cleaners had to say to the cops
Posted by gusto, Sun Jun-30-13 01:39 AM
101000, RE: So A-Hern taken into custody this morning
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jun-26-13 06:59 PM
http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/EDIRPUA/hernlastboyscout_zps20cca133.gif
101001, *coughs up ham sandwich*
Posted by Deebot, Wed Jun-26-13 07:31 PM
101002, I'm curious what was so bad he had to cover up that he had to merk dude
Posted by icecold21, Wed Jun-26-13 07:31 PM
Said he couldn't trust him anymore. Trust him with what?

Crazy how stupid this guy is.
101003, I dunno, but I'm sure it was worth throwing away his life and pro
Posted by Deebot, Wed Jun-26-13 07:38 PM
football career for!
101004, they keep sayin he was fratinizing with some dudes a hern had beef with
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 07:50 PM
in the club... i just knew it had to be over his bidge or some shit..like he hit some other broad and dude knew about it or some shit..not no dumb "beef" type of shit...
101005, anyone else think it was related to that other shooting?
Posted by KosherSam, Wed Jun-26-13 08:14 PM
the guy who got shot in that one was originally keeping his mouth shut, then something happened and suddenly he's suing hernandez.

what if Lloyd said something to the wrong person, which led to the lawsuit, and Hernandez murked him because he was a witness to that shooting and/or for snitching?
101006, probably so..... because that case would have
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 09:39 PM
ended his career too.... if that came out...it would have ruined him...

so I could see that being something that could prompt him to be defensive about.
101007, 204
Posted by jigga, Thu Jun-27-13 09:48 AM
>the guy who got shot in that one was originally keeping his
>mouth shut, then something happened and suddenly he's suing
>hernandez.
>
>what if Lloyd said something to the wrong person, which led to
>the lawsuit, and Hernandez murked him because he was a witness
>to that shooting and/or for snitching?

first thing i thought of
101008, Don't see how Hernandez can let this go to trial....
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 08:54 PM
from the the prosecuter was saying ....it's obvious that the guys who were with him when he shot dude are talking as the prosecuter was detailing what was said during the conversations at the house...and in the car...

plus with the video of him having a gun in his hand at his house...plus the text messages....and the video from the site of the murder that show a certain number of people walking to the area...and then 1 less person leaving the area...

looks pretty cut and dry in particular if guys who were with him are telling and will testify...

that being said.... Hernandez should probably accept a plea bargain that will at least give him the possibility of someday getting out of jail.... 25 to life rather than life without parole...

its a shame though...I mean this is obvious a guy who had issues for a while...was able to avoid pitfalls that would have stopped him from getting a college scholarship on to going to the nfl and getting a major contract. But eventually those things caught up with him and he made some really wrong self-destructive choices.

another subject other young people may be able to learn from seeing how much he fukked off his life.


101009, why would the DA offer a plea deal? they have him dead to rights
Posted by KosherSam, Wed Jun-26-13 10:39 PM
usually they offer a deal if there's an opportunity to testify against an accomplice, or if there is a risk they might lose at trial.

they have the other accomplices ready to testify against him, and a conviction seems certain. why would they offer him a deal? to avoid trial? the DA is probably jerking off thinking about all the publicity he'll get during and after this trial.
101010, there is nothing worse for a DA's office than losing a high profile case
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 11:50 PM
you offer a plea to get a conviction ...you go to trial...you spend a lot of money and risk losing...


usually they offer a deal if there's an opportunity to
>testify against an accomplice, or if there is a risk they
>might lose at trial.


>they have the other accomplices ready to testify against him,
>and a conviction seems certain. why would they offer him a
>deal? to avoid trial? the DA is probably jerking off thinking
>about all the publicity he'll get during and after this trial.
>


Doing 30 years as opposed to life without parole has an appeal to a guy Hernandez age. It seems like he got people talkin to the police on him.... in these types of cases your only chance is to claim self defense....or insanity....or claim someone else did it..... If he tries any of those and loses, he could spend the rest of his life in jail...

or he could plead guilty to aggrivated murder ...take 25 to life and take his chances ....

DA's don't want to lose high profile cases...it's a career killer.


There was a benefit to Rae Carruth going to trial as having the people he was involved with testify allowed some of the blame to be put elsewhere..thus he was able to get a sentence that gave him the possibility of going home one day...

it doesn't look like the guys who were with Hernandez are looking at murder charges like he is..or like the others in the Carruth case were. they can freely tell on this muthafukka...with conspiracy...premeditation....all that shit. There is no benefit to him having a trial.

Him accepting a plea that gives him the chance to come home possibily one day works for both sides...
101011, Trials are a crapshoot
Posted by Kungset, Thu Jun-27-13 12:32 AM
Avoiding a trial in and of itself is often enough to get a plea deal, especially if you have a strong legal defense team. Something crazy like 90% of cases are settled by plea, I'm sure a ton of those cases were rock solid as well
101012, they found the gun yet?
Posted by will_5198, Thu Jun-27-13 01:19 AM
my years of watching L&O makes that seem important for a first-degree charge.
101013, Nope & that's Hern's only hope...even w/o it he's probably fucked
Posted by jigga, Thu Jun-27-13 10:04 AM
101014, it is too early to say, plus there are other cases potentially
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jun-27-13 01:42 PM
they got him maybe connected to this drive by. nothing criminal in the other case with the guy he allegedly shot in the grill, at least.

i think we could see a deal but it will be so shitty that a hern is better off hoping for some circus trial and a miracle. it's not like the death penalty is on the table here. so if they offer him 20 years instead of 30, fuck it, might as well go to the mat.
101015, When someone shoots someone to death, that's not a shame for shooter
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jun-26-13 11:41 PM
101016, it's a shame when anyone choses to take someone else's life,
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jun-26-13 11:55 PM
and ruin their own life and all those around them..

the consequcnes of Hernandez actions extended beyond the ending of a life...and the ruining of his own.... and there is nothing good about what is left behind.
101017, RE: it's a shame when anyone choses to take someone else's life,
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 02:48 AM
Not if the person was trying to blackmail them,which is what lloyd was trying to do....

Blackmailing is a form of putting someone's life in detriment...You can't blackmail someone and not expect some form of retribution.

In the words of Omar, "it's all part of the game." ....
101018, Hahah you know these guys personally?
Posted by Brew, Thu Jun-27-13 07:26 AM
Where are you getting this random information?
101019, I think him and bentagain are hern's connecticut. goons.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 07:44 AM
101020, RE: Hahah you know these guys personally?
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 08:32 AM
well, the reports are saying that lloyd was associating with aaron's rivals, and that he was talking to them about aaron, which, I guess, led to aaron stating" I can't trust anyone" ...possibly him worrying about his rivals using info against him, or thinking that he was being set up?

bottom line, for lloyd to be executed the way that he was, he had to have violated something, considering aaron's association with gangs and lloyds association with aaron.

the shit was definitely gang/domestic related....

101021, That's one hell of a leap bro...
Posted by Brew, Thu Jun-27-13 08:49 AM
The prosecutors said Lloyd was speaking with people Hernandez didn't like at a club, and you jump to:

"Not if the person was trying to blackmail them,which is what lloyd was trying to do...."

Slow your roll.
101022, RE: That's one hell of a leap bro...
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 08:56 AM
what Im saying is that aaron can play that angle, sorry if I didn't make that clear....regarding blackmail or his rivals using information against him, or lloyd siding with them.

The defense could roll with that, and could in fact say that aaron was actual the victim and took the gun with him because he feared for his life, considering lloyd was associating with his rivals....

101023, lol no...this is what you said
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:02 AM
RE: it's a shame when anyone choses to take someone else's life,"
In response to Reply # 271

Not if the person was trying to blackmail them,which is what lloyd was trying to do....

Blackmailing is a form of putting someone's life in detriment...You can't blackmail someone and not expect some form of retribution.

In the words of Omar, "it's all part of the game." ....


in response to a post about its a shame when someone's life is taken.

in any event what you are saying seems like more motive for premeditated murder as oppposed to some hernandez defense.

101024, RE: lol no...this is what you said
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 09:10 AM
again, I apologize if I didn't make that clear...I was speaking on a perspective that aaron could take and think of, and present it in that manner..or at least that was my attempt.


101025, do you realize that what you said provides the prosecution
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:20 AM
with motive as opposed to a reasonable defense for hern.

He was scared b.c Odin was fraternizing with his rivals or being blackmailed by Odin. So he calls 2 of his boys from conn to come down at 2 in the morning and picks up Odin, meanwhile odin is texting family to let them know who he's with. So Hernandez, his 2 boys and a gun in hernandez possession is driving to a deserted spot b/c Ahern is scared of Odin?

What happens next that wound up with Odin dead? and the other 3 running away or destroying evidence?
101026, RE: do you realize that what you said provides the prosecution
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 09:31 AM
You still have no proof of premeditation. why is that so hard for you to fathom?

Do you understand that the prosecutors have to prove that he PLANNED and ORDERED the killing of LLoyd in order to get aaron convicted of First Degree. EVen if they prove that Aaron did it, aaron could still walk if first degree is not proven.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED TO, THAT PROVES FIRST DEGREE MURDER...NOTHING

He could argue that he called his friends up for protection because he feared for his life, and that LLoyd was conspiring with his rivals to do him in .....He met with lloyd to talk things over, but the conversation became aggressive and he killed him in the exchange of the battle, and totally lost it and continued shooting him ....still not premeditated!


Like I said, they will probably get him on obstruction, or they are going to have to come with other charges .....He will possibly get 10-15 years, and up for parole in 8 ...or he could beat the entire case.


He knows what he is doing....Didn't cooperate, and never, really, left his house.....He is doing what all gang members and mob members do: HE IS KEEPING HIS MOUTH SHUT, AND HIS LEGAL TEAM WILL DO THE REST.


101027, I didn't say what was posted PROVES premedtitation
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:38 AM
like everyone in here, I don't have all the facts.

What I am saying is that what you posted gives more evidence to premeditation than it does to non-premeditated murder.

Does it PROVE premeditation?

no.

Did I say it did?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f036fff9a48fc6f0c9ed7df47c9499ad/tumblr_mnfcifuuJK1rcny7ko1_250.gif
101028, lol... if you a grown man making millions...you shouldn't have
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Tue Jul-02-13 03:13 AM
enemies...

you should be posted at the crib with your bad chick ..you kids...and only real cats around you that you've known..and who ain't about no bullshit...

if Hernandez offed dude to protect getting put on blast for the dirt he was doing.... the tragedy beyond the loss of a life is the choice a guy made who was given the opportunity very few are given, to risk all of that over some street shit..

101029, Yep yep yep yep yep - preach.
Posted by Brew, Tue Jul-02-13 07:25 AM
Preach on. He's an idiot and that's not even remotely close to a strong enough word to describe how fucking dumb he is.
101030, Yes, it is. n/m
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jun-27-13 12:07 AM
----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
101031, oh my bad.
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 07:50 AM
101032, cops only catch the dumb ones (c) a crim. justice prof i had in college
Posted by Flash80, Wed Jun-26-13 09:29 PM
his own house cameras...

the text msgs...

the shell casings...

the body one mile away...

hell, doing the job himself.

shout out to bentagian tho...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2YbY9eYmdM
101033, and this nigga is dumb, exceptionally
Posted by liveguy, Wed Jun-26-13 09:51 PM
101034, it almost seems like this fool tried to get caught to cover for someone
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 10:06 PM
cant nobody be this dumb cuh
101035, its truly sad event there for all involved
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Jun-26-13 10:38 PM
bad for Hernandez, bad for the victim and bad for the patriots.

just bad news all the way around and its going to get even more ugly as this thing goes forward.

as for on the field Hernandez never was a good fit there is a reason why they tolerate Gook.
101036, Oh shit that's his new nickname now
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jun-26-13 11:55 PM

>as for on the field Hernandez never was a good fit there is
>a reason why they tolerate Gook.

He looks more like a Zipperhead but that's cool
101037, Brady back with a five-step drop...
Posted by colonelk, Thu Jun-27-13 12:23 AM
Pump-fakes right... looks... and throws, Gook open in the end zone... Touchdown, GOOK!
101038, You're a complete idiot, Hernandez is a BEAST. Arguably
Posted by isaaaa, Thu Jun-27-13 01:47 AM
the best TE out the SEC in 10 years.

All American, All SEC, NFL Pro Bowler & All-Pro...


Long Live John Africa!


Take advantage of 25% off www.karmaloop.com w/ rep code JR9103 | Nike, G-Star, Adidas etc.
+ a full line of Women's wear.
101039, a broke Tony Gonzalez who never lived up to his potential
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Jun-27-13 03:20 AM
with the patriots. atletic and versatile, however who don't look good playing with Brady?

even if this turkey gets out of this situation, he would be a slightly better than average player say if he was in cleveland. i wasn't feeling that cat.
101040, Ocho, Bethel Johnson, Chad Jackson, Brandon Tate, Taylor Price..
Posted by JayEmm, Thu Jun-27-13 07:45 AM
..the list goes on. you're wrong as hell on this point

> however who don't look good playing with Brady?
101041, Did you just say Taylor Price?
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 08:23 AM
cmon.
101042, 3rd RD pick
Posted by JayEmm, Thu Jun-27-13 09:20 AM

101043, cmon
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 10:00 AM
101044, he was never an All-Pro
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-27-13 08:18 AM
>the best TE out the SEC in 10 years.
>
>All American, All SEC, NFL Pro Bowler & All-Pro...
>
>
>Long Live John Africa!
>
>
>>Take advantage of 25% off www.karmaloop.com w/ rep code JR9103
>| Nike, G-Star, Adidas etc.
>+ a full line of Women's wear.
101045, FIRST MEAL.: American Chop Suey, portion of green beans, slice of bread
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jun-26-13 10:43 PM
no seconds
101046, Did he think he was gonna murk somebody and play football
Posted by Tw3nty, Wed Jun-26-13 11:08 PM
Like nothing happened?
101047, that'd be so great on hard knocks
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Jun-27-13 12:07 AM
"offseason was cool. you know, shot this cat. the usual."

him and gronk are a combined 46/47 yrs old and there might not be that many iq pts between em.
101048, lol like 3 hours after the dude got killed
Posted by Kungset, Thu Jun-27-13 12:03 PM
he was telling people "good morning" on twitter
101049, it's not what you know. It's what you can prove.
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 02:15 AM
With a good defense, he can walk...and more than likely he is not going to accept or deal with a plea-bargain.

Defending the Murder Charge
SI WIRE: Hernandez charged with first-degree murder
While the evidence articulated by McCauley paints Hernandez in a guilty light, law enforcement will now have to share evidence with Hernandez's attorneys as part of the pretrial discovery process. Hernandez's attorneys will scrutinize all aspects of the evidence, including how it was obtained, examined and stored. They will look for any ways to cast doubt. Also expect his attorneys to challenge the police's alleged timeline of events. Along those lines, defense counsel will probably offer an alibi as to Hernandez's whereabouts when Lloyd was killed. Hernandez also has the financial resources to hire DNA experts and others with technical skills who will rebut the prosecution's science. Remember an obvious point but crucial: Hernandez does not have to prove that he is innocent; he only has to provide enough doubt that jurors don't believe the prosecution's case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Consider some of the specific evidence mentioned in the arraignment and how Hernandez's attorneys might challenge it.
First, no gun has been found. While defendants have been convicted of murder without the murder weapon being found, it makes the case more difficult for prosecutors. If Hernandez goes to trial, his attorneys would stress to jurors that the absence of a gun should give them pause for doubt. After all, how can they be sure Hernandez shot Lloyd when the gun was never recovered?
Second, be prepared to hear the phrase "taken out context" mentioned repeatedly by Hernandez's attorneys. Every piece of evidence that portrays Hernandez as guilty will be regarded as "taken out of context." Here are some examples:


• A videotape where Hernandez is shown walking with a gun on the night of the murder. His lawyers will likely assert commonality, that this is not unusual behavior by Hernandez. Perhaps they can show with some corroborating evidence or testimony that Hernandez walks around with guns with regularity to protect his property.



• A text where Hernandez says "you can't trust anyone anymore" right before he picks up Lloyd. Hernandez's lawyers might maintain that while he was perhaps unhappy with Lloyd he was not planning to kill or hurt him, especially since they knew each other. Records of other texts where Hernandez uses that type of language and didn't commit crimes would be helpful.


• Hernandez's home was cleaned the day after the murder. If his home is professionally cleaned regularly then even if the cleaners had the effect of interfering the police's work it does not show Hernandez's intent to harm.


• Hernandez lied to the police. Hernandez's lawyers can argue that any lies had no effect on the police's investigation and therefore caused no legal harm. They might also assert that Hernandez had a constitutional right under the Fifth Amendment to not incriminate himself in conversations with the police. Along those lines, much has been said of Hernandez being "uncooperative", but he's protected from self-incrimination and thus had a right to not answer certain questions.


The bottom line is there will be aggressive attempts by Hernandez's attorneys to explain away every piece of evidence that looks bad. Some will be more persuasive than others.
ROSENBERG: Hernandez couldn't distance himself from his past
Third, witnesses and alleged accomplices who implicate Hernandez will be portrayed as mistaken in fact or observation, or as motivated to pin the murder on Hernandez in order to escape their own punishment.
Fourth, Hernandez may be able to avoid a conviction on first-degree murder if he can show he did not set out to kill Lloyd. There are different types of murder charges and they vary widely in Massachusetts as elsewhere. First-degree murder centers on premeditation -- that Hernandez planned to kill Lloyd and did it. If prosecutors cannot show there was a plan, it would be difficult to convict Hernandez of first-degree murder. Second-degree murder is murder with intent but not premeditation, while voluntary manslaughter is killing in the heat of the moment.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130626/aaron-hernandez-murder-charge-legal-analysis/#ixzz2XOlkpmHM
101050, RE: it's not what you know. It's what you can prove.
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 02:27 AM
I also think that the fact that the DA charged him with first degree murder , it might actually hurt them than help them since the evidence is so weak in my opinion regarding premeditation.

also the fact that hernandez didn't answer any of the police's questions regarding the murder, he can basically come up with any story as far as what happened in the car. He could actually say that he took the gun with him to protect himself from lloyd, and that he used the gun in self-defense, and that he lost his control afterwards( explanation for the multiple shots) if it actually comes down to that.


there are so many holes in the case that dude might not even have shit to worry about - considering his defense is solid as hell, and regardless of what the accomplices do or don't do.
101051, you meant to edit this part too right?
Posted by jigga, Thu Jun-27-13 10:25 AM
>there are so many holes in the case that dude might not even
>have shit to worry about - considering his defense is solid as
>hell, and regardless of what the accomplices do or don't do.

If you think he's got his feet kicked up in the cell blowin bubbles w/ that cotton candy gum like it's all good you're crazy
101052, Hernandez destroyed his phone and surveillance equipment
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 07:49 AM
Defense can argue that Hernandez did this regularly. He is a multi-millionaire, and when he gets tired of his current phone or surveillance equipment, he usually destroys it. They can offer bats and hammers in his home as items that he possibly could have used to destroy this equipment on a regular basis. Video of him destroying video surveillance equipment would be extremely helpful.
101053, RE: Hernandez destroyed his phone and surveillance equipment
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 08:15 AM
Technically, the defense could argue that he was upset or angry from his conversation and meeting with lloyd, and from there he broke the equipment.....or the equipment was not working properly, which agitated him and led him to destroy the equipment.

I don't think he is as dumb as a lot of people think that he is.....

- he took the fifth ..no information can come back to haunt him in court, so he can make up any story that he feels he needs to

- there is no evidence that proves he set out to kill LLoyd. There is nothing that says "killing", "im going to kill him", or "i need you to kill him"

- casing and gum still does not prove premeditation.


- accomplices testify against him....the defense lean on their credibility and crime record.....so that isn't even a sure slam dunk..plus they can say that the DA is going after Aaron because he is a high profile person, and that the DA would get a lot of attention and notoriety from it.


I say he walks on the first degree charges, and gets time and parole for obstruction.

I just don't see the DA being able to prove First Degree, with or without the murder weapon. The defense will easily be able to prove second degree or manslaughter if the DA does not have SUPER STRONG evidence, allowing aaron to walk.
101054, RE: Hernandez destroyed his phone and surveillance equipment
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 08:15 AM
Technically, the defense could argue that he was upset or angry from his conversation and meeting with lloyd, and from there he broke the equipment.....or the equipment was not working properly, which agitated him and led him to destroy the equipment.

I don't think he is as dumb as a lot of people think that he is.....

- he took the fifth ..no information can come back to haunt him in court, so he can make up any story that he feels he needs to

- there is no evidence that proves he set out to kill LLoyd. There is nothing that says "killing", "im going to kill him", or "i need you to kill him"

- casing and gum still does not prove premeditation.


- accomplices testify against him....the defense can lean on their credibility and crime record.....so that isn't even a sure slam dunk..plus they can say that the DA is going after Aaron because he is a high profile person, and that the DA would get a lot of attention and notoriety from it.


I say he walks on the first degree charges, and gets time and parole for obstruction.

I just don't see the DA being able to prove First Degree, with or without the murder weapon. The defense will easily be able to prove second degree or manslaughter if the DA does not have SUPER STRONG evidence, allowing aaron to walk.
101055, oh nooooo lol
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jun-27-13 09:19 AM

>Video of him destroying video surveillance equipment would be
>extremely helpful.
101056, this could be a hate crime
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Jun-27-13 03:12 AM
sad to say however it has that strong possibility.

i always thought he was a decent player, however nothing memorable.
101057, LOL. How?
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jun-27-13 06:25 AM

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
101058, he said get this nigga.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 07:50 AM
defense will argue he was saying get this nipple.
101059, wtf son
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jun-27-13 08:23 AM
101060, He's hatin on a semi-pro football player?
Posted by jigga, Thu Jun-27-13 10:31 AM
101061, I'm sorry. I'm still blown away by this.
Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-27-13 07:46 AM
The level of stupidity exhibited over & over again is truly legendary.

HE DIDN'T CLEAN THE RENTAL CAR THAT WAS IN HIS NAME.
101062, this is where I'm at... it's fascinating to think about the level of stupidity
Posted by rjc27, Thu Jun-27-13 08:08 AM
displayed here
101063, yeah. I keep re-reading details like really...really...REALLY?!
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 08:48 AM
I know most of the documents were sealed to the public but I need another play by play of that court appearance yesterday
101064, he left a dead body a mile from his crib w/ keys to his rental car
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Jun-27-13 12:00 PM
101065, it's stupid sure, but
Posted by Kungset, Thu Jun-27-13 12:06 PM
i'm more blown away by how big of a sociopath he is if all this is true. i mean the fact that he was so stupid about it kinda shows how little thought he put into murdering someone
101066, I don't know about sociopath
Posted by smutsboy, Thu Jun-27-13 02:37 PM
He seems like your run of the mill remorseless violent criminal.

Shocking, but not uncommon.
101067, I think Aaron might get bail
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 09:17 AM
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9428173/aaron-hernandez-case-aaron-hernandez-due-back-court-thursday-bail-review-hearing

The judge is set to review his bail......I can't see why he shouldn't get. He isn't a threat to society, plus:

- His fiance and child lives with him
- he is a high profile character-
- and has not shown signs of wanting to flee or trying to flee
101068, c'mon...seriously who are you?
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:21 AM
>He isn't a threat to society, plus
101069, lol
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-27-13 09:31 AM
101070, RE: c'mon...seriously who are you?
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 09:34 AM
He has yet to be convicted of murder, and has never been convicted, so he is not a threat, nor is he a flight risk

Please forgive me for being a person of the law and believing in the system:

A MAN IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY AND IS ENTITLED TO DUE PROCESS.

101071, dont be stupid...being offered bail is not part of due process
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jun-27-13 12:17 PM
101072, Source: Hernandez investigated in Boston double-killing
Posted by JayEmm, Thu Jun-27-13 09:26 AM
BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) -- FOX 25 has learned exclusively that investigators are looking into Aaron Hernandez as a possible suspect in a double murder that happened on July 16, 2012 in downtown Boston.

According to the Boston Police blog from that date, officers responded to the intersection of Shawmut Avenue and Herald Street just after 2 a.m. When they arrived, they found three people had been shot, two fatally, as they sat in a car at a traffic light.

The men were identified as Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu. The FOX 25 source said the men, who worked at a cleaning company in Dorchester, had just left a bar in the area.

Furtado and Abreu were sitting in the front seat of the vehicle when witnesses said the occupants of a gray or silver SUV with Rhode Island plates opened fire on it. The surviving victim was in the back seat. Investigators believed two others in the car fled the scene.

The source said that investigators were looking into Aaron Hernandez's connection to the killing.

On Wednesday, Hernandez was charged with murder in the death of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd, of Dorchester.

An investigation is ongoing.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22702430/2013/06/27/source-hernandez-investigated-in-boston-double-killing#ixzz2XQWP13Hr
101073, Who knew WeeBey could play football?
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 09:34 AM
101074, He'll claim Whitey Bulger's murders for a pit beef w/horseradish.
Posted by Jayson Willyams, Thu Jun-27-13 09:39 AM
101075, Sheee-it, Hernandez isn't even Savino status.
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-27-13 10:54 AM
You think Wee-Bay would've used a cell phone? Or dropped a body a mile away from where he lived?
101076, ^^^not a threat to society
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:40 AM
101077, RE: Source: Hernandez investigated in Boston double-killing
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 09:40 AM
So are they going to investigate him for every homicide in boston?

they are reaching now to stain his image more than what it already is and to really paint him as a dark figure...

good strategy by the DA....I'm pretty sure they are going to pull out all the punches to darken his image and make him into a gruesome killer
to leave no doubt in the minds of the jurors.


A counter-move on his bail attempt as well
101078, bentagain^^
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 09:43 AM
101079, http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2201361&mode=full#2202047
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:44 AM
All that's left is for SPM to play his contrary to common sense role and cosign him
101080, or it could just be SPM
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Jun-27-13 11:53 AM
101081, lol good point.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 11:55 AM
101082, I'm sure thats all it is.Heard hes a suspect in the Marathon bombing too
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 09:43 AM
aka stfu


>So are they going to investigate him for every homicide in boston?
101083, he had been retweeting tzokahr on twitter
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 09:46 AM
-
101084, RE: I'm sure thats all it is.Heard hes a suspect in the Marathon bombing too
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 09:57 AM
a report being given citing no evidence whatsoever, just that he is being investigated based on a source.

whether he is guilty or not, it just baffles me how easily the masses will believe anything that is reported or disclosed......

A person can be easily painted guilty or innocent and the population will fall right in line with it with no further investigation or curiosity.
101085, that is true...too bad you said this.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:02 AM
>So are they going to investigate him for every homicide in boston?

hence the pile-on jokes.

Is it possible that this story can disappear never to be heard of again?

of course.
101086, RE: that is true...too bad you said this.
Posted by thePENofMAN, Thu Jun-27-13 10:10 AM
clearly, I was being sarcastic.
101087, clearly so is everyone else replying with jokes.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:22 AM
101088, No, the article swiped here just mentions the two.
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-27-13 09:44 AM
>So are they going to investigate him for every homicide in
>boston?

Or did you have more information about additional homicides?
101089, he owns/owned a silver SUV with RI plates, apparently
Posted by KosherSam, Thu Jun-27-13 12:21 PM
101090, Tsarnaev brothers >>>>>>>>>>>>Aaron Hernandez
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jun-27-13 09:58 AM
101091, Shouldnt take long to close this one
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 10:10 AM
Im sure there is a silver SUV that Enterprise has with gun casings in the trunk that Aaron returned the day after the shooting.
101092, wrote about it on his livejournal.
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 10:13 AM
101093, Has anyone checked his Vine account?
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 10:15 AM
101094, lol right.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:24 AM
>Im sure there is a silver SUV that Enterprise has with gun
>casings in the trunk that Aaron returned the day after the
>shooting.
101095, this is unreal....almost comical
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 10:11 AM
minus the people being murdered part you know
101096, WHERE'S WALLACE, HERNANDEZ? WHERE'S WALLACE?!?
Posted by thejerseytornado, Thu Jun-27-13 10:43 AM

-----------
It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.
101097, LMAO!!!
Posted by zigbfree, Thu Jun-27-13 12:59 PM
101098, taking a page out of the springfield police dept book
Posted by Drizzit, Thu Jun-27-13 12:14 PM
Officer Eddie: (reading Steve Sax's license) Well well, Steve Sax, from New York City.
Officer Lou: I heard some guy got killed in New York City and they never solved the case. But you wouldn't know anything about that now, would you, Steve?
(Lou and Eddie laugh)
Steve Sax: But there are hundreds of unsolved murders in New York City.
Officer Lou: You don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you, Saxxy Boy?
101099, Post where you think hern has hid the gun?
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:05 AM
.
101100, belichecks hooodie.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:07 AM
101101, the police station itself
Posted by pretentious username, Thu Jun-27-13 10:09 AM
they'll never expect to find it there!
101102, Threw it in the river
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 10:12 AM
But it was inside his Patriots issued back pack with his name and number on it.
101103, In his fridge, in a brown bag labeled
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 10:13 AM
MURDER WEAPON
101104, RE: In his fridge, in a brown bag labeled
Posted by pretentious username, Thu Jun-27-13 10:23 AM
>MURDER WEAPON

"DON'T EAT"
101105, lmao
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:24 AM


>A. HERNANDEZ
>
>MURDER WEAPON
>
>"DON'T EAT"
101106, I just snorted so loudly
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 10:54 AM
101107, I don't know what I expected
Posted by cereffusion, Thu Jun-27-13 11:19 AM
101108, LMAO!
Posted by im_freshhh, Thu Jun-27-13 12:01 PM
101109, *snorts*
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jun-27-13 01:25 PM
.
101110, hahahahahahaha
Posted by b2thej, Thu Jun-27-13 02:04 PM
101111, the cookie jar
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jun-27-13 10:21 AM
101112, Candy drawer conspicuously underneath a pack of Bubbilicious
Posted by jigga, Thu Jun-27-13 10:53 AM
101113, Now being investigated for a double murder
Posted by josephmurf2384, Thu Jun-27-13 10:27 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/27/report-hernandez-is-being-investigated-for-july-2012-double-murder/

They trying to put every unsolved murder in the city of Boston on this dude. Reminds me of the Simpson's episode where they solved all of the unsolved murders by pinning them on Steve Sax.
101114, lol @ this and 379 both referencing Steve Sax on the Simpsons
Posted by KosherSam, Thu Jun-27-13 12:20 PM
101115, "You wouldn't know anything about that, would you?"
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-27-13 12:47 PM
-
101116, SELFIE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:28 AM
from 2009 tho.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1214267/original.jpg

101117, motherfucker's hairline is incredible
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jun-27-13 10:31 AM
101118, Cosign.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Jun-27-13 11:59 AM
101119, no. looks more like a Sine wave. definitely a sine.
Posted by poetx, Fri Jun-28-13 12:26 PM
maybe a co-secant.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101120, loooool
Posted by T Reynolds, Fri Jun-28-13 02:55 PM
101121, Livestrong
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 10:47 AM
101122, lolz
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 10:47 AM
101123, Son got Spaceley Sprockets glued to his t-shirt?
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Thu Jun-27-13 11:22 AM
101124, The caption on this picture on his MiGente.com profile was
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jun-27-13 12:00 PM
The Bedazzled Bandit
101125, "....when you all alone you pose wit guns in the mirror, yo" (c)Prodigy
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jun-27-13 01:26 PM
.
101126, Roger Goodell would have suspended him for a season
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Jun-27-13 01:37 PM
had he gotten a hold of that picture...

101127, still doesn't top rae carruth...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jun-27-13 10:31 AM
..but its close

this fool is gunnin' for the title



*skatin' the rings of saturn*

..and miles to go before i sleep...
101128, It is possible, though, that he's being set up.
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-27-13 10:37 AM
If you take the position that no one could possibly be as stupid as Hernandez, that surely he at some point watched at least one episode of L&O or CSI or NCIS or any cop show or movie, ever, then the only explanation is that he's being framed.

Or, I guess, he was just arrogant, and thought he was untouchable.
101129, ^^writes for SVU^^
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jun-27-13 12:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8lDYrvTILc


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

..and miles to go before i sleep...
101130, Yeah, but only Detective Munch's dialogue.
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-27-13 12:51 PM
101131, it reeks of arrogance
Posted by hardware, Thu Jun-27-13 12:20 PM
101132, http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m92fguqCU91qgxy6bo1_400.jpg
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-27-13 12:33 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m92fguqCU91qgxy6bo1_400.jpg
101133, i had the same thought ... what is tebow's alibi?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Jun-27-13 02:45 PM
101134, he's in court now trying to get bail
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 01:03 PM
101135, link
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 01:17 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/27/aaron-hernandez-bail-review-murder-odin-lloyd-court/
101136, fool might get bail.. Lawyer was workin that jelly
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 01:18 PM
made some good points tho
101137, oh he'll nah prosecutor came out swinging HARD
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 01:20 PM
this nigga is cooked
101138, didn't know Hernandez' BM is a sista
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 01:11 PM
101139, Ahhh the condo!! He has an evidence condo
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 01:20 PM
when you dont wanna leave stuff at home take it to the condo, they'll never find it there.
101140, lmao @ "evidence condo"
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-27-13 01:22 PM
That's a thing, I see.
101141, lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 01:23 PM
101142, I can't stand him anymore man lmao
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 01:24 PM
like he CANNOT be serious
101143, i'm dyin. he rode there on the escape goat. it was a rental, tho.
Posted by poetx, Sat Jun-29-13 03:06 AM

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101144, this prosecutor soounds like he's a jets fan.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 01:24 PM
101145, lol
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 01:27 PM
101146, I think he's a Giant Fan, he's about to own this dude
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-27-13 03:53 PM
101147, nice lol
Posted by RaFromQueens, Fri Jun-28-13 03:17 PM
101148, This fool bout to do that J Bo Walker time
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 01:25 PM
101149, Prosecutor broke that shit down like weight
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 01:30 PM
101150, First degree murder defendants don't walk the streets (c) the judge
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 01:36 PM
101151, lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 01:39 PM
101152, A-Hern's theme music....
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jun-27-13 02:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaRnE0l36CE
101153, Pats fans handling things well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=onWraqsTRaI
Posted by Jayson Willyams, Thu Jun-27-13 02:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=onWraqsTRaI
101154, Fall River...nuff said
Posted by EmDub, Thu Jun-27-13 03:04 PM
I don't know one person that is defending him in any way.


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I Love That Dirty Water...Boston Your My Home
101155, http://www.maryellenmark.com/images/375px/228K-111-003.jpg
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-27-13 04:04 PM
http://www.maryellenmark.com/images/375px/228K-111-003.jpg
101156, That Chris Herren low expectations having flow.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jun-27-13 07:48 PM

Sad

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
101157, My theory
Posted by EmDub, Thu Jun-27-13 03:02 PM
The third guy involved in this turned and is working with the cops.

He told them everything that happened in this case and let the cat out of the bag about the double murder last year too.

They will hide him until the case where he will testify to all of this. The latest murder was tied to Lloyd talking to the wrong people and running his mouth about last years murders (both in Boston nightclubs).

He going under the jail.



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I Love That Dirty Water...Boston Your My Home
101158, reasonable.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jun-27-13 03:13 PM
101159, https://www.whitelionbailout.org.au/web_images/ads_423.gif
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jun-27-13 03:52 PM
https://www.whitelionbailout.org.au/web_images/ads_423.gif
101160, Police found SUV connected to 2012 murders
Posted by Metal Face, Thu Jun-27-13 05:56 PM
and say AHern rented it.
101161, this fucking guy.
Posted by pretentious username, Thu Jun-27-13 06:21 PM
>and say AHern rented it.
101162, RE: Police found SUV connected to 2012 murders (swipe)
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 07:19 PM
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/06/police_believe_aaron_hernandez.html

Police believe Aaron Hernandez rented SUV used in 2012 double-homicide in Boston, according to reports

An SUV Boston police believe was rented by former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez links the football player, who already faces a first-degree murder charge, to a pair of 2012 killings, CNN is reporting.

The Boston Police Department found a silver SUV with Rhode Island tags that they have been looking for in the July 16, 2012, killing of two people who were shot at a traffic light on Boston's south side. A source close to the investigation told CNN that Hernandez is believed to have been renting the SUV at the time.

Hernandez was denied bail Thursday after being arraigned in the killing of 27-year-old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd, who was found dead a mile from Hernandez's house June 17.
101163, He's done
Posted by Lach, Thu Jun-27-13 07:23 PM
101164, Gangsta 101: dont be renting cars in your own name
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 07:31 PM
do not damage the rental...you dont want NO problems on the return, get that shit DETAILED before the return (all dope dealers know this shit)...i mean this is first level G shit...this fool rented multiple cars in his own name and was very sloppy withem.
101165, dude thought he was untouchable for real. mad young & naive
Posted by Lach, Thu Jun-27-13 08:45 PM
101166, man leaving a shell casing is BEYOND sloppy....
Posted by guru0509, Thu Jun-27-13 10:33 PM
>do not damage the rental...you dont want NO problems on the
>return, get that shit DETAILED before the return (all dope
>dealers know this shit)...i mean this is first level G
>shit...this fool rented multiple cars in his own name and was
>very sloppy withem.


i cant even begin to come up with a word to describe that carelessness
101167, unfuckingbelivable
Posted by CherNic, Thu Jun-27-13 08:41 PM
101168, Shit I was joking and was spot on
Posted by Ceej, Thu Jun-27-13 10:37 PM
This dude should singlehandedly make Florida lose its accreditation
101169, SEC-SEC-SEC-SEC!!!!!!!
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jun-27-13 10:53 PM
>This dude should singlehandedly make Florida lose its
>accreditation
101170, mannnn. I'm hearing all types of stuff from my folk back home
Posted by Lach, Thu Jun-27-13 07:16 PM
I didn't even know he had been parading around some parts of my town.
101171, You gonna leave us hanging like that?
Posted by Metal Face, Fri Jun-28-13 10:57 AM
spill the beans
101172, More please..
Posted by EmDub, Fri Jun-28-13 12:36 PM
101173, Any1 hear that caller on D&C who claims to've gang banged w Hern?
Posted by Jon, Fri Jun-28-13 11:49 AM
If true, he had some gems

Said Hernandez gang name was Chino

Also said his own nickname when asked, which I'm hoping for his sake was a lie lol

But he went into some interesting detail

Also, I hope "Chris" is safe lol
101174, Was he the one that claimed to go to prison
Posted by EmDub, Fri Jun-28-13 12:38 PM
Because his friend stabbed someone in the knee?

If so I caught the end, what else did he say?

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I Love That Dirty Water...Boston Your My Home
101175, nah that was a different dude. i heard him too. this guy was
Posted by Jon, Sat Jun-29-13 10:25 AM
an italian member of the Latin Kings who was breaking down Hern's tatoos and why he could be both Latin King and Blood and where Hern would go to bang back in the day, who they'd be fighting, who their allies were, etc.

He talked at length about the prison system in Massachusetts, especially as it pertains to someone like Aaron aka Chino. Talked about the showers, said he's never seen anyone raped in a MA prison, said it must be a southern thing, and there's enough gay inmates that anyone who wants it can get it, etc lol ...said Concord has communal showers, but Hernandez won't ever end up there.

Talked about how Max is the safest and nicest type of place to do your time. Nobody bothers anyone, trouble makers are too afraid to start shit, etc. Said he had some of his best times in prison. Told a story (in a cheery manner) of one time there was this young new inmate at 3am making a "tink tink tink" sound in his sink shaving. An older inmate told him to stop, nobody can sleep, there's no girls to impress here, and if he does it again he's gonna get stabbed. Next evening, "tink tink tink" the caller thinks "this kid has balls" and then the older dude runs over to him and stabs him 40-something times. He told it as if it was funny and Dennis and Callahan, per usual with their classless asses, were laughing.

He described Aaron as someone (paraphrasing from memory) who'd go handle whatever he was supposed to handle, attack whoever they needed him to, did what he was supposed to do for the gang, "a solid kid" ...at which point D&C (and most reasonable listeners probably) laughed at the "solid kid" remark.

Dude also said he was gonna try and get "Chris" to call in, who is apparently this dude who's way on the inside of the Bristol area gang system and knows everything there is to know. They asked the caller, going by the fake name "Joe", what his nickname was and he told them lol.

I can't remember everything that was said, but it sounded like he had so much info he didn't know where to even start.
101176, I refuse to listen to that show
Posted by cereffusion, Fri Jun-28-13 05:20 PM
give me 985 ALL DAY
101177, i typically can't stand them either...super ignorant
Posted by Jon, Sat Jun-29-13 10:28 AM
101178, SEC: SPEED(Y TRIAL). Shameful. God knows how much
Posted by Castro, Fri Jun-28-13 12:42 PM
dirt he did in CT...but I'm sure anything that is under the rug will come out now too.
101179, Guy he shot in Fl says A hern left him to die (swipe)
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Jun-28-13 12:59 PM
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2472709

by Lindsay H. Jones, USA TODAY Sports

The lawyer for the Connecticut man suing Aaron Hernandez now believes Hernandez intended to kill his client after a night of partying in Miami.

Alexander Bradley, 30, filed a civil complaint in a U.S. District Court in South Florida in which he accused Hernandez of shooting him in the face on Feb. 13. Bradley was found alone and bleeding from the face and arm in a Riviera Beach, Fla. industrial park, about an hour north of the strip club where he had spent the previous evening with Hernandez and others.

"I think he was left there because they thought he would be dead," attorney David Jaroslawicz told USA TODAY Sports on Friday.

Jaroslawicz initially filed the complaint on Bradley's behalf on June 13, four days before the body of semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd was discovered in an industrial park less than a mile from Hernandez's home in North Attleborough, Mass. Police arrested Hernandez on Wednesday on a charge of first-degree murder in that case, and he is being held without bond while awaiting formal indictment.

Police in Boston are now investigating whether Hernandez was involved in a double-homicide in July 2012, the Boston Globe has reported.

"You can't make this stuff up. When I filed this simple lawsuit for Mr. Bradley's injuries, the last thing I expected was they would find a dead body near his house and he'd be under investigation to two other dead bodies," Jaroslawicz said. "That's not what I expected when we filed our simple lawsuit."

According to the civil complaint, in which Bradley is seeking more than $100,000 in damages, Bradley said he was shot while in a vehicle with Hernandez and two other men after leaving a strip club called Tootsies, while en route to Palm Beach. Bradley ended up losing his right eye, has diminished use of his right hand and arm, experiences significant pain and will require further surgeries, he said in the complaint.

Jaroslawicz said Bradley had known Hernandez for several years and had worked for him.

"He thought they were friends," Jaroslawicz said.

Bradley was initially hospitalized in West Palm Beach, Fla., and while there, he offered police only a vague description of his assailants, telling an investigator he only knew he was shot by "black and Hispanic" men, according to a Palm Beach County Sheriff's report obtained by USA TODAY Sports. The officer who interviewed Bradley wrote that when Bradley refused to cooperate further, the case was listed as inactive.

Now Jaroslawicz and the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office are at odds about if and how a criminal case against Hernandez should proceed.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Teri Barbera told USA TODAY on Friday that the department will restart an investigation without cooperation from Bradley, adding that he could call the violent crime division to begin that process.

Jaroslawicz said the fact they have filed a suit against Hernandez in federal court should be enough for the sheriff's office to investigate Hernandez on their own.

"They know who did it. They have a sworn statement filed in federal court that Hernandez shot me. What more do they need, a picture?" Jaroslawicz said.

Meanwhile, police in Gainesville, Fla., where Hernandez played three years at the University of Florida, said they will not conduct further investigation into a 2007 shooting. Hernandez was interviewed by police after that incident in which two men were shot in a vehicle on a night following a Gators' football game.

"The description of the shooter was a black male. It was not even remotely close to Mr. Hernandez's color or build," Gainesville Police officer Ben Tobias told USA TODAY Sports. "We did a thorough investigation at that point, and it did not lead to him whatsoever."
101180, I will not be surprised with anything that comes from this case
Posted by EmDub, Fri Jun-28-13 01:15 PM
If they turn up ten more bodies, if he videotaped a murder...anything. I am sure we are going to get stories trickling out of Foxboro from teammates and others there.





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I Love That Dirty Water...Boston Your My Home
101181, GATDAYUM! How Do You Say Wee-Bay in Spanish?
Posted by RexLongfellow, Fri Jun-28-13 02:39 PM
101182, this dude loves industrial parks, huh?
Posted by Bombastic, Fri Jun-28-13 06:49 PM
>http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2472709
>
>by Lindsay H. Jones, USA TODAY Sports
>
>The lawyer for the Connecticut man suing Aaron Hernandez now
>believes Hernandez intended to kill his client after a night
>of partying in Miami.
>
>Alexander Bradley, 30, filed a civil complaint in a U.S.
>District Court in South Florida in which he accused Hernandez
>of shooting him in the face on Feb. 13. Bradley was found
>alone and bleeding from the face and arm in a Riviera Beach,
>Fla. industrial park, about an hour north of the strip club
>where he had spent the previous evening with Hernandez and
>others.
>
101183, well at least he picked one with some distance:
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Jun-28-13 07:06 PM

>Fla. industrial park, about an hour north of the strip club
>where he had spent the previous evening with Hernandez and
>others.
101184, fuck no new friends man no friends PERIOD
Posted by CherNic, Fri Jun-28-13 08:23 PM
101185, so, even if he said he had a murder addiction, he'd violate nfl
Posted by poetx, Sat Jun-29-13 03:14 AM
substance abuse policy.

its like, you do your FIRST murder, you go into the diversion program.

2nd murder? we got to sting your pockets. pay a fine, and now you are required to undergo random murder testing. (hello? a-ay-ron? this the NFL. you murder anybody this week, dawg?)

3rd murder? 1 year ban and no team activities.

4th murder? lifetime.

so this cat got maybe one murder, another possible 2, and then an unfinished face shooting / incomplete murder.

come the fk on, yo.

dude is a murder fiend. he gonna be murderin folk in prison, too.

jack the set tripper ass serial murker.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101186, next they gonna report he was behind the paul pierce stabbing
Posted by gusto, Sun Jun-30-13 02:20 AM
101187, lol 9 years old stabbing PP
Posted by bezel021, Thu Jul-11-13 09:26 PM
it makes sense at this point
101188, they got the 2 dudes he was wit.
Posted by themaddfapper, Fri Jun-28-13 02:34 PM
one cat caught in conn. being shipped to mass., and the most recent cat caught in so. fla.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h0IMoZ1PEQ
101189, notice how the brotha got the entire fuck out of new england
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Jun-28-13 02:57 PM
Still got caught tho..lol
101190, He Got ALL THE WAY to S. Fla
Posted by RexLongfellow, Fri Jun-28-13 03:04 PM
He was not messing around

Should've made that swim to Cuba though
101191, Safe to say he's ABOUT THAT LIFE?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jun-28-13 03:19 PM
101192, Safe to say he's earned a big 3 letters at the end of his name
Posted by T Reynolds, Fri Jun-28-13 03:32 PM
Aaron Hernandez, BtL
101193, Safe to say if you a "friend" of Hernandeez, don't need no enemeez?
Posted by jigga, Fri Jun-28-13 05:01 PM
How many of his so-called friends has he shot?

101194, a hern prolly in there gettin his snitch on too
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Jun-28-13 05:08 PM
he seem like the type.
101195, he should try to get on that Whitey Bulger Program
Posted by Bombastic, Fri Jun-28-13 06:51 PM
>he seem like the type.
101196, NYTs article about Odin Lloyd and his relationship with
Posted by smutsboy, Sat Jun-29-13 12:15 PM
Killa Hernandez



N.F.L. Star and Murder Victim: Where Diverse Paths Crossed
June 28, 2013
By BILL PENNINGTON

BOSTON — Odin Lloyd did not own a car, so, just after dawn, he would pedal his bicycle from his Fayston Street home past blocks checkered with overgrown yards and rusted fences in one of Boston’s roughest neighborhoods.

Mr. Lloyd, 27, would be on his way to work as a landscaper, or sometimes to an odd job when he could find one. A gifted high school athlete, he had not abandoned his childhood dream of playing pro football. He played with a semipro team, the Boston Bandits, sometimes on high school fields — even if he could not always afford the $75 dues.

Forty-five miles away in the suburbs, Aaron Hernandez lived in a four-story mansion with an in-ground pool. A former college and high school football all-American, he drove a $75,000 car and played tight end for the New England Patriots before sellout crowds. Last year, when he was just 22, he signed a $40 million contract extension.

Mr. Lloyd and Mr. Hernandez had virtually nothing in common, other than a love for football. But their lives did cross, and now Mr. Hernandez is in jail, charged with Mr. Lloyd’s murder.

Interviews with more than a dozen friends and relatives of both men reveal a complicated relationship that offered Mr. Lloyd a glimpse of a rarefied corner of professional sports, but was also filled with constant reminders of the vast gulf between the two athletes.

Mr. Lloyd’s murder and the subsequent revelation that Mr. Hernandez is being investigated in a separate double homicide have tarnished the Patriots organization, which holds itself up as a model franchise, and delivered the latest black eye for the National Football League, a league that has long coped with players who commit violent crimes.

But on Fayston Street, where Mr. Lloyd lived, and in Bristol, Conn., where Mr. Hernandez grew up, the murder and its fallout have come as shocking, and tragic, mysteries.

Mr. Hernandez and Mr. Lloyd might never have met but for two sisters from Bristol. Mr. Hernandez and one of the sisters, Shayanna Jenkins, were high school sweethearts. Last year, when she became pregnant with his daughter, he bought a sprawling house in North Attleborough, Mass. Their daughter was born in November, and Mr. Hernandez began calling Ms. Jenkins his fiancée.

Sometime in the last 18 months, Mr. Lloyd began dating Ms. Jenkins’s sister, Shaneah. At Jenkins family gatherings, the men became acquainted. Mr. Lloyd, of course, knew all about Mr. Hernandez’s football career. But Mr. Lloyd did not discuss the Boston Bandits with Mr. Hernandez, at least at first.

“When they first started dating, I asked Odin, ‘Does he know that you play football?’ ” said Cliff Anderson, a player on the Bandits. “He goes, ‘No, I didn’t mention it to him; there’s no need for me to mention it.’

“He didn’t want to make it like he was a groupie, that he was trying to use him in any way.”

Over time, Mr. Lloyd and Mr. Hernandez started spending time together away from the Jenkins sisters. They arranged their own outings, and Mr. Hernandez’s towering presence — he is 6 feet 2 inches and 250 pounds — and his expensive cars were spotted in Mr. Lloyd’s rough Dorchester neighborhood.

Mr. Lloyd, his friends said, was the kind of football player who danced onto the field, took command of the huddle and always had his teammates’ backs during games. Born in St. Croix, he spent a few years in Antigua and was raised in Dorchester. At 5-11 and a sturdy 215 pounds, he was a hard-hitting linebacker. He attended John D. O’Bryant School of Mathematics and Science, and in 2003 the previously downtrodden football team contended for the league championship, in part because of his energy.

“He was my best hitter on the team that year,” his coach Jeff Venter said. “He was pretty much feared.”

Mr. Venter said he thought Mr. Lloyd had the skills to play Division I football. But his grades were too poor for him to be a prospect, and they even caused him to miss much of his senior season. Mr. Venter called the loss “heartbreaking.”

When Mr. Lloyd graduated in 2005, he was admitted to Delaware State University but never attended classes, apparently because of financial problems, according to one of his uncles.

Football, however, remained a constant. He joined the Bandits, who play home games in front of fans who pay $6 for a seat, with children admitted free. Mr. Lloyd seemed to thrive in the low-profile world of semipro football.

“He didn’t care about material things or what other people thought of him,” said Kerome Coley, a friend. “That’s why so many people gravitated to him.”

Another teammate, Dee Hodge, said Mr. Lloyd knew his big-time pro football dreams would never materialize.

“We don’t have no agent,” Mr. Hodge said. “Nobody is calling us or nothing. We are in a grown-man Pop Warner league.”

But Mr. Hernandez, the star tight end featured on ESPN highlights, offered a unique chance to touch the glittering stage of professional football. “You were there with someone who is in ‘The League,’ ” Mr. Coley said. “You see him on TV. You admire this person.”

A Football Family

In 2005, the year Mr. Lloyd graduated from high school, Mr. Hernandez eclipsed the lofty athletic legacies of both his father and older brother. In Bristol, his father, Dennis, had earned the nickname the King when he lettered in three sports at Bristol Central High School in the early 1970s. Dennis Hernandez went on to play at the University of Connecticut, as did Aaron’s older brother, D. J.

As a high school sophomore, Aaron Hernandez kept with family tradition and verbally committed to UConn. But in his junior year, he set state records for receiving yards and touchdowns and posted eye-catching statistics, like 376 receiving yards in one game. College coaches from the around the country came to Bristol, a hardscrabble city of 60,000 once known for its clock making but now better known as the home of ESPN.

Mr. Hernandez switched his commitment to the University of Florida, after visiting the campus and staying with Tim Tebow, then the Gators’ star quarterback. The decision shocked people in Bristol, but by then most had seen a change in Mr. Hernandez. His father, Dennis, had died in January 2006, just after Aaron’s junior season at Bristol Central.

The death ended epic backyard football games, and Aaron, the youngest son, appeared to withdraw into himself.

“Everyone in town knew Aaron, and he was a cool kid that made you feel good,” said Andrew Malak, 18, a relative of the family. “He was still nice after that, but just quieter.”

In a 2009 interview with USA Today, Aaron’s mother, Terri, recalled the effect her husband’s death had on Aaron: “It was a rough process, and I didn’t know what to do for him. He would rebel. It was very, very hard, and he was very, very angry. He wasn’t the same kid, the way he spoke to me.”

Mr. Hernandez began hanging around with a tougher crowd. He graduated early from Bristol Central — he was only 17 — so he could enroll at Florida and prepare for his college football life.

But trouble followed him to Florida.

During his freshman year, before he turned 18, Mr. Hernandez was arrested after a fight with a bouncer at a bar. He received deferred prosecution after being charged as a juvenile. In the fall of that year, The Orlando Sentinel reported that Mr. Hernandez was questioned by police about a shooting that injured two men. Friends from Connecticut were with Mr. Hernandez that night, the Sentinel reported.

And as a sophomore, he was suspended for the season-opening game, apparently because of a positive test for marijuana, Mr. Hernandez later acknowledged.

By his junior year, Coach Urban Meyer was saying that Mr. Hernandez had been rehabilitated with daily Bible study sessions that the coach conducted personally.

But N.F.L. teams were unconvinced when Mr. Hernandez turned pro, skipping his senior season. A first-round talent, he was drafted by the Patriots in the fourth round, and even that was viewed as a risky move given Mr. Hernandez’s track record. There were reports that he had failed multiple drug tests.

Still, Mr. Hernandez was embraced by Bristol as a hometown hero. Many city residents made pilgrimages to watch him play for the Patriots.

This week, many of those residents could not reconcile the Aaron Hernandez they knew as a youngster and the one they have seen this week in handcuffs.

“It looks like he just fell in with the wrong crowd,” Mr. Malak said.

But even that is not enough of an explanation for those in Bristol who thought they knew Mr. Hernandez best. They say they do not recognize the young man who took a picture of himself with a handgun when he was a college student at the University of Florida. They say they can’t understand how Hernandez can be sitting in jail, charged with murder.

“I guess you never know anyone,” said Jerry Coyne, whose son Matt was the quarterback on Mr. Hernandez’s high school team.

A Trip in a Rented Car

On the Saturday night before he was found dead, Mr. Lloyd drove to a Bandits scrimmage in a Chevy Suburban that belonged to Mr. Hernandez, with whom he had been partying at a club a night earlier. Mr. Lloyd usually bummed rides from teammates to practices. This time, he pulled up next to Mike Branch, a Bandits coach who had also coached him in high school.

Mr. Branch wanted to know whose car it was, because, as he said Thursday, “I knew he didn’t have no Suburban.”

Mr. Lloyd answered succinctly: “You know whose car it is, coach.”

A little more than a day later, in the early morning hours of June 17, Mr. Hernandez and two friends rolled up to Mr. Lloyd’s home, this time in a rented silver Nissan Altima.

At 2:29 a.m., according to prosecutors, Mr. Hernandez texted Mr. Lloyd, saying, “We’re here.” As Mr. Lloyd left the house, his sister casually glanced out the window at the Altima. But this was not a prelude to another visit to an after-hours nightclub. Mr. Hernandez, prosecutors say, was angry with some of the people Mr. Lloyd had talked with at the club Friday night. Irritated, he talked about how he could no longer trust Mr. Lloyd. Roughly 40 minutes later, apparently worried about Mr. Hernandez’s intentions, Mr. Lloyd texted his sister from the Altima.

“Did you see who I was with?” he asked. There was a pause of a few minutes; his sister’s phone had lost its charge.

“Who?” she finally replied.

“NFL,” Mr. Lloyd texted back, then added, “Just so you know.”

Odin Lloyd was not referring to his childhood dream. He was identifying the big-time football star he had once gravitated toward but now feared.

Mr. Lloyd’s text was sent at 3:22 a.m. Prosecutors said surveillance video from businesses in the industrial park where Lloyd’s bullet-riddled body was found showed the Altima heading for a undeveloped section of the industrial park at 3:25 a.m. Shortly after, night shift workers in the park heard multiple gunshots.

At 3:27, the Altima was visible again leaving the secluded area. Two minutes later, prosecutors said, Mr. Hernandez was seen parking the Altima in his driveway less than a mile away and stepping out of the vehicle, pistol in hand.

Mr. Hernandez has pleaded not guilty to all charges. His lawyers Thursday said they looked forward to testing the quality of the prosecution’s evidence, which they described as a “theory.”

Interviewed outside her Fayston Street home on Friday, Mr. Lloyd’s mother, Ursula Ward, said: “I just want my son back. I just want him to be able to rest in peace.”

Steve Eder contributed reporting from New York; Ben Shpigel from Boston; and Joe Drape from Bristol, Conn.
101197, yeah, SUV is gonna have a field day with this one...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Sun Jun-30-13 12:33 PM

*skatin' the rings of saturn*

..and miles to go before i sleep...
101198, RE: NYTs article about Odin Lloyd and his relationship with
Posted by TRENDone, Mon Jul-01-13 11:33 PM
either AH told Mr. Lloyd to do some "work" for him and Lloyd got punished for not getting the job done (like a hardcore gangbanger)

or

AH didn't like that Lloyd was actually becoming a pillow-talking groupie, maybe started telling people he was BFFs with AH, and killed him (like a punk)
101199, OR
Posted by smutsboy, Tue Jul-02-13 08:13 AM
AH is a narcissistic, irrational murderer.
101200, Pats are allowing fans to trade in their Hernandez jerseys
Posted by Wonderl33t, Sat Jun-29-13 12:43 PM
Classy.

http://espn.go.com/espn/print?id=9433751&type=story

The New England Patriots are offering anyone with an Aaron Hernandez jersey the opportunity to exchange it for a free jersey of comparable value, the team announced.

The exchange will be offered only during the weekend of July 6-7 at the Patriots Pro Shop.
Earlier this week, Hernandez was charged in the murder of an acquaintance and released by the Patriots.

"We know that children love wearing their Patriots jerseys but may not understand why parents don't want them wearing their Hernandez jerseys anymore," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said in a statement. "We hope this opportunity to exchange those jerseys at the Patriots Pro Shop for another player's jersey will be well received by parents."

The pro shop will be open from 10 a.m.-9 p.m. July 6 and from 10 a.m.-7 p.m. July 7.
101201, hope they dont hit them with the okp right today comparable value
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sat Jun-29-13 02:33 PM
>Classy.
>
>http://espn.go.com/espn/print?id=9433751&type=story
>
>The New England Patriots are offering anyone with an Aaron
>Hernandez jersey the opportunity to exchange it for a free
>jersey of comparable value, the team announced.
>
>The exchange will be offered only during the weekend of July
>6-7 at the Patriots Pro Shop.
>Earlier this week, Hernandez was charged in the murder of an
>acquaintance and released by the Patriots.
>
>"We know that children love wearing their Patriots jerseys but
>may not understand why parents don't want them wearing their
>Hernandez jerseys anymore," Patriots spokesman Stacey James
>said in a statement. "We hope this opportunity to exchange
>those jerseys at the Patriots Pro Shop for another player's
>jersey will be well received by parents."
>
>The pro shop will be open from 10 a.m.-9 p.m. July 6 and from
>10 a.m.-7 p.m. July 7.
101202, Getting these kids Rae Carruth jerseys
Posted by cantball, Sat Jun-29-13 03:17 PM

____________________

Behold my works,ye mighty
101203, This is a team respecting their kiddo fans
Posted by dgonsh, Sat Jun-29-13 05:01 PM
The pats have earned a lot of respect in my book for telling the youth fanbase "bout that life" is nothing to be proud of or to be martyred for.

Hernandez is an embarrassment to his fans. Whether or not he is guilty of what he is accused of, he has shown absolutely NO remorse or willingness to cooperate with the police/media.

If you're innocent, dont look like you could care less. Issue a press release telling your fans "i am innocent. this is a horrible mistake. i will do everything i can to assist the authorities in bringing this issue to a successful conclusion.

eff this guy.
101204, From My Man Lesson24
Posted by RexLongfellow, Sun Jun-30-13 02:12 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ij0ti8.jpg
101205, lmao
Posted by Cenario, Sun Jun-30-13 08:18 PM
101206, ole literal unfriending ass ni&&a.
Posted by poetx, Mon Jul-01-13 03:57 AM
clearly, the hood has yet to fully come to grips w/ social
media.

Disliking ninjas with the 4-5.

I finally read a story w/ some of the evidence in it. Come the fuck on. Only thing he didn't
do was lick off a flare gun and dance outside his crib holding the gun wearing a matching
tshirt and hat that said "I DID IT!"


dumbest. criminal. evar.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101207, he's gonna write a book.. Dam right I did it!! What?
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Jul-01-13 07:34 AM




>clearly, the hood has yet to fully come to grips w/ social
>media.
>
>Disliking ninjas with the 4-5.
>
>I finally read a story w/ some of the evidence in it. Come the
>fuck on. Only thing he didn't
>do was lick off a flare gun and dance outside his crib holding
>the gun wearing a matching
>tshirt and hat that said "I DID IT!"
>
>
>dumbest. criminal. evar.
>
>
>peace & blessings,
>
>x.
>
>www.twitter.com/poetx
>
>=========================================
>** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101208, Kellen Winslow watching this whole saga unfold and probably thinking.....
Posted by guru0509, Tue Jul-02-13 07:57 AM
"its not a war bro, you're not fucking a soldier."

101209, Kevin Garnett watching, like "oh, THAT's what a real thug is like"
Posted by KosherSam, Tue Jul-02-13 09:04 AM
101210, lol
Posted by guru0509, Tue Jul-02-13 09:23 AM
.
101211, RE: Kellen Winslow watching this whole saga unfold and probably thinking.....
Posted by guru0509, Tue Jul-02-13 09:22 AM
"youre not a fucking soldier"


lmao


i hate posting from a phone
101212, i was like "uh..."
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Jul-02-13 09:53 AM
101213, Hernandez investigated for involvement in JFK assassination
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Jul-03-13 02:27 AM
Jeez!!
101214, on some Anachronistic Thug shit. ain't enough ni&&as to kill in this
Posted by poetx, Wed Jul-03-13 02:57 AM
timeline ass ni&&a.

sloppy ass fucking up entire dimensions by leaving rental cars and bubblicious at the scenes of crimes in times when they don't belong.

in one such parallel universe, bubbalicious became the first huge flavored bubblegum. mikey never died from eating hubba bubba w/ spider eggs in them, and therefore grew up to become president. but he was an evil dictator who ushered in a worldwide hegemony.

he executed his whole cabinet when he suspected his secretary of state tried to kill him by lacing his New Coke with pop rocks.

that's a bleak ass timeline.

thanks, a-hern.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101215, lol.
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jul-03-13 09:28 AM
>timeline ass ni&&a.
>
>sloppy ass fucking up entire dimensions by leaving rental cars
>and bubblicious at the scenes of crimes in times when they
>don't belong.
>
>in one such parallel universe, bubbalicious became the first
>huge flavored bubblegum. mikey never died from eating hubba
>bubba w/ spider eggs in them, and therefore grew up to become
>president. but he was an evil dictator who ushered in a
>worldwide hegemony.
>
>he executed his whole cabinet when he suspected his secretary
>of state tried to kill him by lacing his New Coke with pop
>rocks.
>
>that's a bleak ass timeline.
>
>thanks, a-hern.
101216, nah hes not the grassy knoll type...but
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jul-03-13 03:29 AM
i'm fingering him for the tupac shit...yup yup...i bet that Lac from the strip is in a garage like 3 blocks from this fool house...
101217, so yeah....Aaron Hernandez seems to just like shooting people
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jul-03-13 03:29 AM

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
101218, nah this can't be serious....Investigated for Gainesville 07 shooting
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jul-03-13 08:18 AM
Hernandez role in '07 shooting probed

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Authorities in the Massachusetts murder case against former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez have reached out to the police in Gainesville, Fla., in hopes of determining if Hernandez had any role in a 2007 shooting that left two men wounded, a source with knowledge of the murder investigation told ABC News. One of the men was shot in the back of the head, according to a police report of the shooting obtained by ESPN's "Outside the Lines."

At the time of the 2007 shooting, Hernandez was a freshman on the University of Florida football team. Hernandez is being held without bail in Massachusetts after being charged June 26 with first-degree murder of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd and five weapons-related counts. Prosecutors called Lloyd's killing an execution-style shooting orchestrated by Hernandez because Lloyd talked to the wrong people at a nightclub. Authorities said Lloyd was shot three times at an industrial park as he twisted away in a futile attempt to avoid gunshots and then was shot two more times on each side of the chest.

The 2007 Gainesville shooting happened on Sept. 30, when Hernandez was a 17-year-old freshman with the Gators. The two men and a friend of theirs had left a nightclub and were in their car stopped at a light blocks away when their vehicle was fired upon, according to the statements two of the men gave to police. Corey Smith, a 28-year-old at the time who was sitting in the front passenger seat, was shot in back of the head. Justin Glass, the 19-year-old driver, was shot in the arm. Randall Cason, sitting in the back seat behind Smith, was unharmed.

While several witnesses told police the shooter was a black male, Cason said there were two suspects.

Cason, then 20, told police that shooter was a "Hawaiian" or "Hispanic" male who had a large muscular build, stood about 6-foot-3 or 6-foot-4, weighed about 230 or 240 pounds and had a lot of tattoos. Cason said there was also a black male with the shooter, and Cason identified the black male as Reggie Nelson, a former Florida Gator who was a rookie with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Nelson, in an interview with the Gainesville police, said he had been at the nightclub earlier but denied he was even on the same street as the shooting.

"As they were waiting for the light to change, the Hawaiian football player and Reggie Nelson walked up to their car on the right side," according to the police report, which cited what Cason told detectives. "Then without saying a work , the Hawaiian pointed a small handgun in the front right window and fired five quick shots. Cason saw Smith slump over with blood coming out of the back of the head, at which time the Hawaiian and Nelson took off running towards McDonald's."

The police report says that Nelson and Hernandez had been in The Venue nightclub along with two other Gators players, Mike and Maurkice Pouncey, twin brothers who now both play in the NFL. After the shooting, investigators interviewed Cason at Shands Hospital. Cason is described as distraught and emotional, and an officer indicated Cason said several times "it should have been him that had been shot and not Cory ." Cason told investigators that a week earlier his brother had gotten into an altercation with several Florida football players.

Nelson told investigators that he was at The Venue with several friends that night. He said he later saw Aaron Hernandez and the Pouncey twins, and Hernandez told him that one of the twins had his necklace snatched by Cason. After the club closed, Nelson said, one of the twins confirmed the story to him. Nelson said he went to speak to Cason, advised that he didn't want any trouble and the two parted on good terms. He said he was not on West University Avenue, the street where the shooting took place, when Smith and Glass were shot.

Two days after the shooting, Gainesville police Lt. Keith Kameg was quoted in the Orlando Sentinel as saying neither Hernandez nor Nelson were suspects. Police have also said that they briefly interviewed Hernandez about the shooting. But, according to the police report, Hernandez declined to speak to Gainesville police nine days after the shooting. Hernandez's name is redacted from the report because he was 17 and considered a minor at the time. However, there is one reference to Hernandez in which his name is not redacted. In that section under "Aaron Hernandez," the report says detectives attempted to speak to Hernandez on Oct. 9 but that "he invoked his right to counsel."

That same day Cason, who had originally said Nelson and the Hawaiian or Hispanic male were the suspects, "rescinded his identification of Aaron Hernandez and Reggie Nelson," according to the report. While Hernandez's name was redacted in the document, it was the first time the report indicated that Cason had positively identified Hernandez as the shooter at some point.

"Outside the Lines" left messages for Cason, Glass and now retired Gainesville detective Patty Nixon, but they were not returned.

Smith said he suffers from seizures as a result of the shooting. "God is good," he said. "I'm here for a reason. I just want to know what happened and who did it so I can go forward with my life."

Associate producer Simon Baumgart contributed to this story.
101219, lol @ "he mighta been hawaiian"
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jul-03-13 09:46 AM
no wonder he was gettin away with murders

cats didn't know what race he was

my boy tells me I should pursue crime because people have the same problem with me

101220, this nigga a professional killer.
Posted by Below The Mason Dixon, Wed Jul-03-13 02:22 PM
101221, a failed professional killer
Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-03-13 02:51 PM
he's the Tebow of murderers.

101222, Man...they draggin the homie Reg in this smh
Posted by VonClay, Tue Jul-09-13 06:02 PM
101223, That Urban Meyer runs a tight ship
Posted by BennyTenStack, Wed Jul-10-13 08:50 AM
This was during the time where they had about 20 arrests per season. I hope there is a 30 for 30 about all this one day.
101224, D.J. Hernandez is mistaken for brother, Aaron Hernandez
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jul-03-13 08:36 AM
surprise! this dude looks like an older version of Aaron Hernandez...

http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/3/36/4508402/167123-330-0.jpg

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2013-07-02/aaron-hernandez-brother-dj-hernandez-iowa-fight-diner-mistaken-identity


101225, Gold Roc Diner
Posted by emeyesi, Wed Jul-03-13 04:37 PM
Good eats!
101226, Man who police wanted to talk to about Aaron Hernandez dies in car accident
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jul-03-13 09:42 AM
I laughed....this shit can't be real life

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/man-police-wanted-talk-aaron-hernandez-dies-car-012034083.html

If you don't think the Aaron Hernandez story can get any weirder, wait a few minutes, and it will.

The Hartford Courant has a story that is sure to get imaginations running. Thaddeus Singleton III, an associate of Hernandez's with whom police wanted to talk, died in a one-car accident. The report said the car shot through the air and hit the Farmington Country Club six feet off the ground. Hernandez is being held on a charge of first-degree murder, and police are also looking into any possible involvement the former New England Patriots tight end had in a 2012 double murder in Boston.

The Nissan Maxima in the accident involving Singleton was registered to Andres Valderrama, Hernandez's uncle. Singleton was married to Hernandez's cousin, the story said.

No matter whether this was a mere coincidental accident or not, the whole Hernandez plot is starting to seem like it came straight from "The Sopranos."

Singleton is from Bristol, where Hernandez grew up. The Hartford Courant said Massachusetts authorities have asked Bristol police for help in the investigation of the double murder.

Singleton was 33 years old. A female passenger, Tabitha Perry, was injured in the accident, the Courant said.
101227, i just hope lifetime doesn't get the movie rights.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-03-13 09:48 AM
101228, Taking Law Abiding Citizen to new levels
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jul-03-13 09:51 AM
101229, lol
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-03-13 09:57 AM
101230, !!!
Posted by pretentious username, Wed Jul-03-13 12:43 PM

>The Nissan Maxima in the accident involving Singleton was
>registered to Andres Valderrama, Hernandez's uncle. Singleton
>was married to Hernandez's cousin, the story said.
>
101231, muhfuckas gettin Final Destination'd
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Jul-03-13 02:33 PM
.
101232, bristol iz active nm
Posted by vik, Wed Jul-03-13 09:48 AM
101233, If they call Waterbury, CT "Dirty Water". Bristol would be what...
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jul-03-13 09:52 AM
the Grisly Brist?

Pistol-totin Bristol?
101234, Oh, you didn't know about my secret flop house?
Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jul-03-13 04:13 PM
This was really considerate of him. Now the police won't have to drive all over town looking for evidence, they can just hit up his other apartment where he keeps his ammo.

http://tracking.si.com/2013/07/03/aaron-hernandez-rent-secret-apartment-murder-nfl-patriots/?sct=hp_t2_a2&eref=sihp

The evidence continues to mount against former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez.

After being charged with first-degree murder in June for the execution-style shooting of acquaintance Odin Lloyd, and subsequent findings of links to other shootings and incidents, the 23-year old Hernandez is now reported to have rented a secret “flop house,” a place typically reserved for minimal services such as storage.

According to a report Wednesday from the Associated Press, Hernandez, who is now one of 29 NFL players arrested since the Super Bowl, had reportedly leased a $1,200 per month apartment in Franklin, Mass., where state police found boxes of ammunition, a sweatshirt and a baseball cap, among other items.

Police found out about the apartment from Carlos Ortiz, one of Hernandez’s friends, who said he was with the former NFL star the night he allegedly made plans to shoot Lloyd. The articles of clothing recovered from the apartment are similar to what Hernandez had worn the night of the crime, June 17. According to the AP report:

“The white sweatshirt could be used … to assist in linking Hernandez to the scene of the crime,” wrote Trooper Michael Bates, in an affidavit in support of one of the search warrants.

“The baseball hat could help provide the whereabouts of Hernandez on the Friday night before the homicide,” Bates wrote.

The Boston Globe and Boston Herald have the list of items recovered, which include:

A white hoodie “consistent in color and type with the sweatshirt that Hernandez is observed to be wearing on surveillance cameras the night of the homicide.
A red baseball cap worn by Hernandez to a nightclub on the Friday night before the murder. Prosecutors had previously said Hernandez’s anger at Lloyd could have been sparked by an incident at that club.
Five boxes of .45 ammunition (the caliber of the shells found on Lloyd’s body), five boxes of rifle ammunition, and one box of .22-caliber ammunition.
Keys to a brand-new Hummer registered to Hernandez.
Paychecks from the Patriots and Puma.
A bag from Kay Jewelers.
A valet receipt from the W Hotel in Boston.
A Western Union receipt.
A Hertz car rental agreement

(Hat tip to DeadSpin for compiling the list)

Lloyd, who was dumped at an industrial complex about a mile from Hernandez’s North Attleboro (Mass) mansion after he was killed, reportedly had inside information about Hernandez’s involvement in a 2012 double-homicide in Boston.

Hernandez’s attorneys say the items recovered from the Franklin apartment is circumstantial and added that he’s eager to clear his name from the murder charge.
101235, see, this shit seems almost too obvious to be what it looks like
Posted by Jon, Thu Jul-04-13 11:57 AM
maybe that was his tactic, to make it look like he was framed lol

prolly just a dumb 23 year old gangsta-jock though
101236, "Lloyd kept Hernandez in his phone under the name "Dis N***a."" (swipe)
Posted by MothershipConnection, Tue Jul-09-13 05:38 PM
I had to post this on OKSports pretty much solely for that line.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-text-message-conversation-aaron-192146255.html

Investigators released the results of a search warrant against Aaron Hernandez this afternoon.
It gives further details of the prosecution's claim that Hernandez, along with two associates, picked up Odin Lloyd at his house in Boston, drove him to an industrial park less than a mile from Hernandez's home, and shot him five times.
Police released the specifics of the text message conversation that Hernandez had with Lloyd on the night of his death.
Here's the conversation as it appeared in court records (via Brian Ballou of the Boston Globe):
Hernandez (9:05 pm): "I'm coming to grab that tonight u gon b around I need dat and we could step for a little again"

Hernandez (9:34 pm): "Waddup."
Lloyd (9:37 pm): "Aite, where."
Hernandez (9:39 pm): "idk it don't matter but imma hit u when I'm dat way like Las time if my phone dies imma hit u when I charge it which will be in a lil."
Lloyd (10:00 pm): "Aite idk anything goin on"
Hernandez (10:13 pm): "I'll figure it out ill hit u on way."
Lloyd (12:22 am): "We still on."

The court records also show that Lloyd kept Hernandez in his phone under the name "Dis N***a."
Investigators say Hernandez picked up Lloyd at 2:33 a.m.
It's unclear what Hernandez was referring to when he said "grab that," but Hernandez's girlfriend reportedly told police that Lloyd was a marijuana dealer before Hernandez told her to stop talking to investigators.
101237, wow
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Jul-09-13 05:45 PM
.
101238, This case keeps giving and giving and giving
Posted by CherNic, Tue Jul-09-13 10:25 PM
Lloyd probably rolled his eyes when "dis nigga" popped up on the phone screen
101239, sweet baby jeebus I hope this case never ends.
Posted by smutsboy, Tue Jul-09-13 11:08 PM
101240, ^^^ Dis N***a ^^^
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Jul-09-13 11:24 PM
101241, Its actually reversed in the court docs, which is even funnier
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jul-10-13 07:38 AM
101242, First name: Dis. Last name: Ni**a. Contact list: Ni**a, Dis
Posted by Buck, Wed Jul-10-13 10:09 PM
101243, wowsers.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-10-13 07:44 AM
101244, i'm not looking forward to defense witnesses trying to explain
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-10-13 08:43 AM
that "dis nigga" is a slang term for respect in the african american community.
101245, lol prosecution gonna have witnesses talking bout
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Wed Jul-10-13 11:12 PM
how it could also be disrespectful if said a certain way/

>that "dis nigga" is a slang term for respect in the african
>american community.
101246, incredulous.gif. lmmfao. if i wrote that in a book, ppl would not
Posted by poetx, Wed Jul-10-13 06:46 PM
believe it.


DIS ni&&a.

wow.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101247, i mean, that completely sums up my feelings about this dude and
Posted by poetx, Thu Jul-11-13 08:10 PM
and this case.

perfectly.

Dis Nigga.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
** i move away from the mic to breathe in
101248, incredible
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Mon Jul-15-13 06:14 AM
101249, yo i'm dying
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Mon Jul-15-13 12:53 PM
101250, PDF of the documents...156 pages
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jul-10-13 07:26 AM
http://assets.espn.go.com/pdf/2013/0709/hernandez_docs-7-9-13-r.pdf

I'm 98% sure I'm going to print this out and pore over it

101251, Damn they pulled some Law & Order tactics in the interview room
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jul-10-13 07:34 AM
The look they all must have had when his phone rang musta been nuts.
101252, lol i know what i'm doing on my train ride home.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-10-13 07:44 AM
101253, if I was the dude who heard the 3 gunshots, John Medeiros
Posted by rjc27, Wed Jul-10-13 08:12 AM
I'd be a little uneasy to be associated with this case in anyway...
101254, the dumbest murderer in recent history is in jail now
Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-10-13 08:38 AM
unless you trip and fall into some bullets, 'dat Hernandez won't get ya.
101255, what about the dude that had the mystery car accident tho
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-10-13 08:41 AM
101256, pretty sure Hernandez was trying to keep him safe
Posted by smutsboy, Wed Jul-10-13 09:36 AM
and instead killed him.

101257, lol
Posted by rjc27, Wed Jul-10-13 09:43 AM
101258, lol
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-10-13 09:46 AM
101259, lmao
Posted by CherNic, Wed Jul-10-13 09:51 AM
101260, A-Hern was reached at his cell for comment
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jul-10-13 06:48 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/2f24806882a6694374d3a22faf2fef06/tumblr_mlm8fmloZd1r0ptf1o1_500.gif
101261, pg 68 - 70 wtf am I looking at?
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jul-10-13 08:56 AM
101262, great rug
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jul-10-13 09:09 AM
101263, it really ties the room together
Posted by KosherSam, Wed Jul-10-13 07:35 PM
101264, Odds a dead persons blood was cleaned off that rug?? 8:3??
Posted by Ceej, Wed Jul-10-13 08:18 PM
101265, ah nice... pg 114 he went to Gillette to dump more evidence!
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jul-10-13 09:03 AM
101266, pg 133 I've had enough. Disgusting. Really disgusting.
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Jul-10-13 09:13 AM
A-Hern still smoking Black & Mild's

101267, this case is *fascinating* to me for reasons I can't fully articulate
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Jul-10-13 06:49 PM
>http://assets.espn.go.com/pdf/2013/0709/hernandez_docs-7-9-13-r.pdf
>
>I'm 98% sure I'm going to print this out and pore over it
>
>
101268, I wanna be interested but he seem like a basic psychopath to me
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Jul-10-13 08:13 PM

So I've stopped caring
101269, DIS NI**A bout to do J Bo Walker time....
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Jul-10-13 09:21 PM
101270, someone should print a number 81 jersey with DIS N***A on the back
Posted by Jon, Thu Jul-11-13 01:48 PM
asterisks included
101271, that would be fkn awesome
Posted by LAbeathustla, Thu Jul-11-13 01:53 PM
101272, lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jul-11-13 02:14 PM
101273, What A Coach Could Never Say (swipe)
Posted by j0510, Wed Jul-10-13 10:53 PM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/07/10/bernstein-what-a-coach-could-never-say/

Bernstein: What A Coach Could Never Say
July 10, 2013 10:41 AM

By Dan Bernstein-
CBSChicago.com Senior Columnist

(CBS) In the wake of Aaron Hernandez’s arrest for murder, his now well-publicized history of violent outbursts and connections to previous crimes have raised questions about what his coaches knew about him, and whether or not they cared.

Urban Meyer was defiant, lashing out at those who would blame him as an enabler. Patriots owner Robert Kraft drew groans of disbelief when he claimed that “Our whole organization has been duped.” And Bill Belichick has been unavailable for comment while vacationing in Italy.

Here is what a brutally honest, self-aware former coach could really say, if unburdened of legal ramifications, unconcerned about future job prospects, and free of the powerful omerta that rules the subculture of the game:

* * *

No, I’m not surprised. Sad and disappointed, sure, but I’m not stupid.

Of course I was worried that he was capable of this. The concern never went away, it just diffused over time like it always does.

It never was really something I thought about amid the day-to-day routine, but we knew what we were dealing with when we decided to bring him in. I knew. How could I not? We looked at everything, talked to people who know him, got all the reports.

But you should have seen this kid move. Big, fast, fluid…just seeing his workouts had x’s and o’s crackling in my head, seeing matchup wins all over the field against man or zone. You find a way to rationalize the rest of it, justify the bad stuff as correctible, or merely a thing of the past.

And he’s not the first, believe me.

At this level we are involved with some dangerous people, and that’s the plain truth. I spout all kinds of cheesy slogans about football family, codes of honor, or the proud traditional ways of our organization, but that just makes people feel like something more important or noble is going on.

I guess all the empty rhetoric helps me be less anxious about it, too. I start to believe that stuff after a while, and it makes it easier.

Whenever I need immediate shelter from negative press about a troubled player, though, I merely invoke religion. Nothing soothes the masses like talk of bible study or prayer, deflecting attention from police reports. It’s amazing how eagerly people eat that stuff up, and it never fails to buy time until things blow over. Instead of just a guy with a whistle and a clipboard, I’m a shepherd of men on a path to a divine life. Or something. But it works, here.

I’d be lying if I told you I was thinking about anybody else when the home phone would ring late at night, or too early in the morning. In the stillness of those hours, removed from the organized chaos of drills and meetings, my mind would picture bad things completely beyond my immediate control. There was nothing but relief when even a minor crisis involved another player, instead.

I have a well-practiced understanding with my assistants, too. As ironic as it is for a pathological control-freak like I am, there are things I don’t need to know. There is so much I don’t want to know. Not just for any kind of plausible deniability, but to keep me from going crazy confronting the disquieting duality of my work.

Despite all the grandiosity that surrounds my job — the ridiculous money, the inflated significance, the unhealthy place this all has in people’s lives – I’m just a football coach, and nothing more. What matters to me is winning, and I am forced to compartmentalize everything else in that pursuit. When it comes to choosing players strong and fast enough to help me succeed, I will always need to make questionable compromises, tell half-truths and sadly, potentially imperil innocent people in our community.

Our fans now – conveniently, after the fact — say they want me to care about quality of character, but that’s the last thing they want. They want me to win championships, and I am doing my damnedest to get that done, in all that may mean.

If we lose games, I get fired, and my family goes with me. I end up as a coordinator in Saskatchewan or coaching some smaller college where I fight with the AD over budgeting for a new blocking sled. If we win big, I’m paid to speak at conventions, putting my name on steakhouses and posing in a dark suit for the cover of my book that offers useless football banalities as some kind of primer on your business.

I will always need some rough customers to be good at my job. I will tell everyone otherwise, wrapping the whole endeavor in glory and God because that’s the unspoken agreement with people whose entire self-worth is connected to the fortunes of a football team.

I know what this all is, and I know what I do. I have to live with that, and it is a conscious choice I have made to do so.

It doesn’t always feel good.
101274, yeesh
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jul-11-13 02:22 PM
101275, Someone wasted an awful lot of time writing this crap.
Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-11-13 02:33 PM
This was pointless.
101276, it's "If I were a poor black kid" levels of bad journalism
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jul-11-13 02:52 PM
101277, lol yeah, i read the explanation of what it was and was like nooope.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jul-11-13 02:54 PM
101278, you know what I'd love to see?
Posted by KosherSam, Thu Jul-11-13 10:51 PM
in this shit piece where he's pretending to be a coach, he (as the coach) claims "of course I worried that he was capable of this."

In his next column, writing as himself, I would love for him to name other players that he thinks are capable of this, since it's so obvious to tell who's secretly a murderer.

I'd especially be curious to see which token white guy he puts on the list to make it seem like he's not racist. Is Jerramy Stevens still in the league?
101279, This piece has nothing to do about Hernandez
Posted by j0510, Fri Jul-12-13 09:02 AM
It's all about the coaches (Meyer, Paterno, Alford), the so-called "Educational Institutions" (Florida, Penn. State, U. of Iowa), the owners/organizations (Kraft/Patriots or Chicago Bears in the Sam Hurd case) refusing to tell the truth about who and what they are. Guys like Meyer try to paint themselves as some holier than thou figure but they don't give a damn about the players background or history. All they care about is winning, which gains them more notoriety, which gains them more money. All these coaches/owners/organizations talk about doing their due diligence when recruiting players, about how they only want or will only accept the most outstanding character players. They have PIs, or former law enforcement officers investigate player backgrounds but in reality they do accept guys with questionable histories, which makes them look stupid (Kraft saying "Our whole organization has been duped"). Football and winning rules above all, e.g. Penn. State child rape case and the Stubenville rape case, where the coach knew about what happened and defended the perpetrator.

I will post up some links that were written by the same author about Steve Alford. (Please read and give your opinion).

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/03/31/bernstein-ucla-hired-a-scumbag/

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/03/bernstein-alford-already-lying-at-ucla/

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/11/bernstein-alford-apology-just-another-insult/
101280, Sure. It's still a stupid, pointless article.
Posted by Brew, Fri Jul-12-13 10:55 AM
Of course all these organizations care about is winning. They make money from winning, their brand is better when they win, winning solves everything.

You really think an owner or coach would ever come out and say "yes I knew this guy had some indiscretions, we swept them under the rug and tried to rehab him but it didn't help and now there's a dead guy that we may potentially be partly responsible for"??? I mean c'mon. Everyone knows that large organizations (and corporations, and America and the world in general) sweeps shit under the rug to save their own faces and keep things moving. This is nothing new. Doesn't make it any less fucked up, but it's reality and this article does nothing to "expose" it or even make any kind of reasonably good point.

The article was actually awkward and uncomfortable to read it was so stupid.
101281, and once you pinpoint your potential murder
Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Jul-12-13 03:40 PM
>In his next column, writing as himself, I would love for him
>to name other players that he thinks are capable of this,
>since it's so obvious to tell who's secretly a murderer.

how do you prevent said player from murdering? kicking the player off the team is going to save the day? kicking maurice clarett out of school sure didn't help prevent him from spiraling down a destructive path of drugs and violence. im sure there are too many other examples of this to list.

coaches want to win but i also believe deep down that ALL coaches care about their kids/players and want them to succeed in life and off the field. the idea that coaches don't give a shit when their players are violent threats to the community is a pretty reckless suggestion.

when dealing with troubled kids you don't always have the foresight to know when to turn your back on them or to try and save them by keeping them on a path to earn a degree and possibly a pro career. but usually violent offenders get kicked off the team and out of school. saban didn't waste any time kicking his players out for violent crimes. if coaches are covering up violent crimes then they deserve to fry. see penn st.

I'd also like to know why blame is only starting at the college level. did Hernandez have a HS coach? teachers? Junior high coaches, pop warner, etc etc. If we're gonna play the blame game then spread the wealth.
101282, this post def needs to wind up in the archives
Posted by Cenario, Thu Jul-11-13 02:55 PM
101283, guaranteed...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-11-13 02:58 PM

*skatin' the rings of saturn*

*GLSC*

..and miles to go before i sleep...
101284, http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad346/rattlehead666/Fark1/aaronhernandez_snoopkentst_zps74d934bb.gif
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Jul-11-13 05:32 PM
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad346/rattlehead666/Fark1/aaronhernandez_snoopkentst_zps74d934bb.gif
101285, this is poor
Posted by CherNic, Fri Jul-12-13 09:50 AM
101286, That's a little...much
Posted by BennyTenStack, Fri Jul-12-13 10:07 AM
101287, I think the Pouncey twins may have done some dirt w/ Hernandez
Posted by laizquierda, Mon Jul-15-13 05:08 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/14/pouncey-twins-show-their-support-for-hernandez/
101288, basically showing their asses
Posted by smutsboy, Mon Jul-15-13 01:06 PM
and how fucking stupid they are.

it's amazing people that fucked up can be that good at football.
101289, idiots smh
Posted by BennyTenStack, Mon Jul-15-13 01:46 PM
101290, Dis Nigga
Posted by themaddfapper, Tue Jul-23-13 09:31 PM
Hernandez focus of grand jury probe into 2012 killings

Prosecutors have begun making the case to a Suffolk County grand jury that former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez should be charged in the shooting death of two men on a South End street last July, according to two law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation.

“The case against Hernandez appears to be strengthening,” one of the officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

The proceedings are conducted behind closed doors so details of the case against Hernandez are unknown. But the very fact that the case has gone to a grand jury indicates that the investigation of the killing of two Cape Verdean immigrants is now more narrowly focused on Hernandez. Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu were shot early on July 16, 2012, in the South End when someone in a sport utility vehicle with Rhode Island license plates pulled up next to their car and began firing.

Hernandez’s lawyer, Michael Fee, did not return e-mails or messages left for him at his office.

The grand jury proceedings also raise the troubling prospect that Hernandez, a talented tight end for the Patriots, might have been playing football last season after he had killed two people.

Boston police made a connection between Hernandez and the South End double murder after he came under scrutiny in the June 17 killing of Odin Lloyd, a 27-year-old Dorchester man.

Hernandez, who has pleaded not guilty to the Lloyd murder charges, is being held without bail at Bristol County House of Correction; he is due Wednesday in Attleboro District Court for a probable cause hearing.

Law enforcement officials have told the Globe that investigators believe Hernandez drove Lloyd to an industrial park in North Attleborough, then shot him because he was worried Lloyd had information about the South End double homicide and might talk.

During the drive to North Attleborough, Hernandez told Lloyd he was “ ‘chilling’ with people that he had problems with,” according to an affidavit unsealed Tuesday in Bristol, Conn. The affidavit said investigators learned this from Carlos Ortiz, one of the two men with Hernandez the night Lloyd was shot.

Boston police declined to comment on the Suffolk grand jury, as did Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley, whose office is overseeing the investigation.

“The grand jury proceedings are by their nature confidential, and we do not comment on them or on open investigations,” said Jake Wark, Conley’s spokesman.

One of the officials with knowledge of the Suffolk grand jury said that investigators are not in a hurry to charge Hernandez with the killings of Furtado and Abreu because he is being held without bail.

The motive behind the killings of Furtado and Abreu, friends who worked together for a cleaning company, remains unknown. Their relatives have said the men did not know Hernandez and neither man had a criminal record.

Furtado’s mother, Maria Teixiera, 59, said it is difficult for her to feel hopeful that her son’s case could be progressing.

“I just want to know for certain, that the person who did this has been caught. Until then, what is there for me to say?” she said, speaking in Creole, as she stood in the foyer of her Dorchester home, surrounded by her grandchildren. “I just want justice for him. If the police are close to finding out who killed him . . . well, I just want them to tell me when they actually catch the person. That’s what my family waits for.”

In Massachusetts, all those charged with murder must be indicted by a grand jury before they can be placed on trial. Often that happens after a suspect is arrested and arraigned in the district court system.

The grand jury is made up of 23 people picked from the same jury pool used to select jurors for public trials. Unlike those trials, however, there is no judge or defense attorneys. Grand jurors listen only to a prosecutor and any witness who receives a subpoena to testify. A grand jury in Suffolk will sit for three to four days a week for three to four months hearing evidence in multiple cases.

The grand jury hearing the Hernandez case is also hearing evidence in other, unrelated felony cases.

Grand jurors do not need to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that a defendant is guilty. They must only decide, by majority vote, whether there is enough probable cause to indict a defendant.

“It’s a very-one sided presentation,” said Michael Cassidy, a professor at Boston College Law School and former chief of the criminal bureau in the Massachusetts Attorney General’s Office. “The standard is probable cause, which is a fairly low standard. . . . There is an expression in law enforcement that a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich if the government asked it to.”

For the past several years, prosecutors have also used the grand jury process to strengthen their cases by obtaining evidence that would be harder to come by in a traditional investigation.

They can subpoena reluctant witnesses who would otherwise rebuff a detective who approached them on the street. Prosecutors can also use the grand jury process to subpoena evidence like the suspect’s DNA, or bank or phone records.

The grand jury process has helped prosecutors bring more solid cases to trial, said Stephen Weymouth, a defense attorney who has represented numerous defendants in Suffolk County.

“I think that the nature of the investigations and the quality of the cases has improved tremendously over the last decade,” he said.

In other developments in the Hernandez investigation Tuesday, a Connecticut judge unsealed three affidavits that were the basis for three search warrant applications connected to the Lloyd killing. Police searched the home of Hernandez’s uncle in Bristol, Hernandez’s hometown.

Authorities became interested in that address after Ortiz told investigators that he drove back to the house after Lloyd’s killing, accompanied by Ernest Wallace, the other man who was with Hernandez the night Lloyd was killed.

It was there that Boston police eventually tracked down the SUV that investigators believe was used in the 2012 South End double killing.
101291, popo searching Pine Lake in Bristol for murder weapon...
Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Jul-29-13 12:27 PM
popo driving down the lane right now about to Jerome Lane that bitch!!
101292, Moped crash kills another Hernandez uncle (swipe)
Posted by Buck, Sun Aug-04-13 02:37 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/08/04/aaron-hernandez-uncle-dies-in-moped-accident-bristol-robert-valentine/2616205/

A second freak accident has claimed another member of Aaron Hernandez's family.

In the early-morning hours Saturday, Hernandez's uncle, Robert J. Valentine, 49, died in a moped crash in Bristol, according to Bristol police.

Valentine is a brother of Hernandez's mother, Terri.

Police said Valentine, riding a 2012 Sunny moped, struck a curb on the right side of the roadway, was thrown from the moped, landed in a private driveway and struck a curb. He was not wearing a helmet and died at the scene, despite efforts by firefighters. A medical helicopter was dispatched but Valentine died before it could transport him.

In June, another Hernandez uncle, Thaddeus Singleton III, was killed when his car crashed into the Farmington (Conn.) Country Club while traveling 100 mph on a rain-slicked road.

Hernandez, held without bail, has pleaded not guilty to the June 17 murder of Odin Lloyd, Hernandez's friend and a 27-year-old semipro football player.

Police had said they had wanted to question Singleton as part of the murder investigation, but there is no indication Valentine had any connection to the case. Several family members have been drawn into the case, according to prosecutors, although no charges have been filed against them.
101293, Prosecutor is messing up big time, and
Posted by thePENofMAN, Sun Aug-04-13 02:56 PM
A Hernandez is the only one that is keeping it real.

It's looking more and more likely the he is going to walk, and the gun charges won't hold either because he has a permit to carry.

There is too much doubt, and the witnesses for the prosecution are all scumbags.

It's starting to appear that Hernandez wasn't even the trigger man.
101294, WHAT?
Posted by EmDub, Mon Aug-05-13 09:44 AM
He has no chance.

Not to mention the mountain of evidence that they have in the other case against him that is about to come out soon.

101295, Pretty sure that post was AHern trying to help his case
Posted by smutsboy, Tue Aug-20-13 01:28 PM
"no, uh, I'm totally going to walk. I mean HE'S totally going to walk."
101296, lol what?
Posted by Cenario, Tue Aug-20-13 01:25 PM
101297, keep on keeping on
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Tue Aug-20-13 01:23 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/police-locate-gun-used-double-homicide-alleged-connections-212230051.html


Police locate gun used in double homicide with alleged connections to Aaron Hernandez
By Jay Busbee | Shutdown Corner – 20 hours ago
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Massachusetts state police have located the gun used in a 2012 double homicide that may be connected to former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez, according to CBS 3 of Springfield, Mass.
Police discovered the gun following a June 21 car crash on Interstate 91 in Springfield, Mass. during an inventory of the wrecked car. The car belonged to Jailene Diaz-Ramoz of Bristol, Conn. A .38-caliber Smith and Wesson revolver was in the car's trunk inside a briefcase. Ballistics testing matched the gun with the bullets fired in the death of two men in Boston in 2012.
Hernandez is already facing a charge of murder in the death of Odin Lloyd, and that case led them to the as-yet-unsolved July 2012 double homicide of Daniel Abreu and Safiro Furtado.

Aaron Hernandez in June. (Getty Images)
CBS 3 of Springfield reported that the gun belonged to a friend whom Diaz-Ramos called "Chicago." She said "Chicago" is a football player, and that he and his friends wanted to leave the gun with her so that they didn't have to bring it with them. WBZ of Boston has tweeted a photo of Diaz-Ramos' mug shot.
Diaz was arraigned in Springfield district court on charges of illegal possession of a firearm and ammunition, and was later released on $1,000 bail.
Hernandez' possible connection to the murders of Abreu and Furtado remains under investigation. On July 16, 2012 Hernandez and his associates were allegedly involved in a fight with Abreu and Furtado at Cure, a Boston nightclub. Soon afterward, the two men were gunned down in their vehicle when an SUV with Rhode Island license plates pulled up alongside them and opened fire. Police believe that an SUV towed from the home of Hernandez's uncle was the one used in the homicides.
101298, poetic justice...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Tue Aug-20-13 01:37 PM

*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y


..and miles to go before i sleep...