Not even in the Ivy League.

My argument is not that he isn't clutch, or that he hasn't finally learned to cut down on the arm punts. It's just that, he has never had a single season comparable to his contemporaries that are in that elite class.

Best Giants QB ever, probably without a doubt. A guy you would want as your franchise QB? Yes.

Elite? No way.

He's probably closer to Brett Favre than anyone else.