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18313, 'dub Invitational Week Five: willi_dudat vs. Ezzsential....
Posted by hdub, Sat Mar-11-06 02:21 AM
After a long night on I-95 I've finally made it home only to find this tournament in shambles. As of right now we've got a 4-4 tie for Shakeet vs. Nile and a DQ for this week. I got a verse from willi but nothing from Ezzsential. I got to say Ezz, this is whack as hell--- why do you always agree to sign up for tourneys and then send nothing in?? I get psyched to see what you're gonna do and then you just don't show. You know I got nothing but respect for ya but this shit is just ridiculous.

Anyways here's what we're going to do to make the best of this situation. As of now Sha vs. Nile is in sudden death mode. The first vote that I get in here will decide the winner of that match. If nobody steps in and speaks their mind by next Friday at 8pm when I got to post the next round then I'm just going to have to go with my vote and give Nile the win. I know nobody wants that-- including myself so come on I know we got a few folks listening who haven't weighed in yet. I know this is a real tough decision to make and both these guys put on quite a show but there's can be only one winner in an event like this so speak now or forever hold your goddang opinion.

As far as this week's battle goes willi's advancing. I know there's nothing to vote on, but it's not his fault so please try and give him feedback. I know from my own experience in week 3 that it sucks to put in the work on an audio and not get any response 'cause the other person DQ'd. So here's willi's verse and link:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=501713&songID=3607661


adlibs...

(i know i got'chall wonderin/thinkin) i wonder what this one's gon be about (rpt)....well if you open up ya ears and ya close ya mouf,
i'mma tell ya what its all about...check!!!

so i aint moved enough units to brag like jay z,
cant do it like busta, that dude just crazy;
guess if you aint from the north then its tough to succeed,
and so i wonder where that places me: a ripe
product of this hip hop tree,
looks like i gotta be the one that fell a good ways from it,
cause i'm different doggummit,
and i'm also pretty thin so just imagine my patience,
when guys is puffin out the chest like cant be deflated:
brag about this and that like they cant be faded,
hope i get on and drop some bombs and leave them suckas berated;
tawkin nuff nonsense like they been thru perdition,
i knock they chin up and they curl up into fetal position:
but im not puttin this out to be a cry for battle,

and here's the schedule for the last week of this first round and what we've got so far for round 2. there's been a lot of great stuff in this thing especially last week's battle. I'm real dissappointed with this week's showing but I know I'm hyped as hell to see lif and ric throw down next friday

WEEK SIX Friday 3/17:

Miracleric vs. Prolif

********ROUND TWO********

WEEK SEVEN Friday 3/24

Zin vs. ((the winner of Shakeet Lohk Em vs. Nile))

WEEK EIGHT Friday 3/31

willi_dudat vs. blak_yukon

WEEK NINE Friday 4/7

hdub vs. ((the winner of Miracleric vs. Prolif))
18314, vote on sha vs. nile right in here....
Posted by hdub, Sat Mar-11-06 02:23 AM
......next vote decides the winner

just wanted to make extra sure that was clear
18315, my bad for not voting...
Posted by Prolif, Mon Mar-13-06 09:34 AM
..been tied up

ok, so at first i heard Sha's and was pleased. The flow was off a tad bit in some places. A couple of voice overs or doubles would have fixed that. The content (as most have mentioned) was definitely on point. I'm not a fan of re-using beats however, although it worked well for you.

so i was so frustrated with trying to get Nile's joint to play that i was like, "yo, this betta be good b/c i'm wasting way too much time trying to listen to this crap!" Turns out that it was worth the wait. Although some of the other tracks were better than the one u chose for the competition, the production, cadence, and mic presence were all very good. I can tell you feel comfortable in the booth. I think the "somen' somen' somen' somen' bout a thug" line got me...ill

this was really close...overall Sha had the lyrics and Nile had the flow. it's like, i wanna sit the youth down and play Sha's joint and say, "listen to this boy!" and then i wanna let them hear Nile's joint and say, "now this is a flow young'n"...i think it's a tie and they should go again, but since ties aint really liked that much around here, i'll give it to.......

VOTE: Sha


<----- my phone


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/lifthalegend_music.htm

"look! i DON'T tell the beat what to do....the beat is like my brother...i gotta listen and relate to him" -- raekwon
18316, RE: my bad for not voting...
Posted by hdub, Mon Mar-13-06 11:15 PM
>..been tied up
>


yeah you were one of those folks where i was wondering why you hadnt showed up on this yet. that's why i threatened to go all autocratic i figured it would draw at least somebody out. so that's settled, sha wins it. by far the best battle i've seen in a long long time. shit, maybe ever. like lif said part of me wants to give a win both guys but in this type of tournament that just wouldn't work. still congrats to you both for putting on a show and nile thanks for participating

so with that settled here's the rest of the schedule so far:

WEEK SIX Friday 3/17:

Miracleric vs. Prolif

********ROUND TWO********

WEEK SEVEN Friday 3/24

Zin vs. Shakeet Lohk Em

WEEK EIGHT Friday 3/31

willi_dudat vs. blak_yukon

WEEK NINE Friday 4/7

hdub vs. ((the winner of Miracleric vs. Prolif))

************************************
**********

some hot stuff comign up if i do say so myself
18317, hey...
Posted by willi_dudat, Sat Mar-11-06 04:20 AM
wtf? what happened to the rest of muh shi???

i spent a lotta time typin that hunter... c'mon doc... post the whole jammy jam...

18318, my bad...
Posted by hdub, Sat Mar-11-06 01:45 PM
...i was wondering why that was so short

im piggybacking on my neighbors wireless here so sometimes it only half loads stuff

here is the whole thing:

adlibs...

(i know i got'chall wonderin/thinkin) i wonder what this one's gon be about (rpt)....well if you open up ya ears and ya close ya mouf,
i'mma tell ya what its all about...check!!!

so i aint moved enough units to brag like jay z,
cant do it like busta, that dude just crazy;
guess if you aint from the north then its tough to succeed,
and so i wonder where that places me: a ripe
product of this hip hop tree,
looks like i gotta be the one that fell a good ways from it,
cause i'm different doggummit,
and i'm also pretty thin so just imagine my patience,
when guys is puffin out the chest like cant be deflated:
brag about this and that like they cant be faded,
hope i get on and drop some bombs and leave them suckas berated;
tawkin nuff nonsense like they been thru perdition,
i knock they chin up and they curl up into fetal position:
but im not puttin this out to be a cry for battle,
i just wanted to give you somethin to leave ya cages rattled;
bring you up outta slumber, a wake up call if you will,
cause some'a y'all could use a little time honnin ya skill:

(hook)-cause its getting a little ridiculous,
these guys get put on and dont take it serious,
these useless line reciters, spittin they bullchatter,
rhymin on about the same ol subject matter,
and im forced to sit and watched while they pockets get fatter,
its a cryin shame, man the think its a game,
we dish it out fresh them other guys is bunk,
we bout to knock em all out they creative slump:

(i guess) i dont tote enuff guns to roll wit g-unit,
rather get wit bun-b make a hit, then screw it;
some dudes be tryin'a rag me bout the way that i flow,
thinkin cause im from the south that everything should be slow:
tryin'a put me in a box and control my fate,
but imma keep them haters hatin everything i create;
i cant say there's watchers watchin every move that i make,
cause honestly i dont believe i even have a fan base:
thats ok, it'll all come together some day,
but in the meantime i aint just go sit here and wait;
while hustler rap about hustlin whatever makes em a dollar,
whatever happened to workin? i gotta faded blue collar:
dont claim to be a scholar neither book nor street smart,
but some claimin knowledge bout as sharp as a sweet tart;
some in the game, some ride the bench, the underground scrimmage,
i'll just chill til some'a these wack niggas finish:

(hook)

adlibs...

(yeah, thanks for checkin out what i do, but i cant leave y'all hangin... i gotta give you more... more fire!!! oh!!!)

yeah the stories are all similar we've all had it rough,
back when you'd get beat up, if you aint tough enough;
or couldn't keep ya mouf shut, or there's some chillen' thats willin to part wit a few bucks,
for the last standin up:
thats that nostalgic lyric tawkin bout back in the days,
all the devious things you did and all the daring escapes;
well thats enuff goin back im comin back to the current,
where all this rap sounds alike, i truly wish that they weren't:
usin the same producers, producers usin the same scheme as the next man to put a hundred grand in his hand,
and radio plays it all the way to japan,
or some country where most folks cant even understand:
i bet its true and im not even a gamblin man,
got the whole world sold on a barcode scan;
but i dont fret cause no one can rock it like i can,
"i'll take a muscle bound man and put his face in the sand":
to quote 'todd smith', i make em vomit when i drop it,
linguistic poisonin they beggin for me to stop it;
push haters off me like the strongest off in a mosh pit,
with flow so cold i'll leave the microphone frostbit:
you harmless and compared to du, you garbage,
switch the beat to 'house' and i'll 'blast the roof off it';
wont quit til im lifeless in a coffin,
endin niggas careers before they even get started:
leave em jobless, when i speak they nod to it,
and the beat willi dudat? yeah, i saw him do it;
he's nothin to screw wit, no homo, ya promo,
make a&rs say oh no! creative slump! no go!!:
18319, RE: 'dub Invitational Week Five: willi_dudat vs. Ezzsential....
Posted by sikstyle, Sat Mar-11-06 11:11 AM
beat was different, I mean that in a good way, felt it. lyrics were tight too, you had something to say, and you said it, I felt the last verse the most. good shit. for constructive crit, imo: I think more sharpness might work better in some parts, depending on what your talkin about. to me it just sounded like you kept the same tone for most of it. sucks about the DQ, but at least this was still entertaining, props homey
18320, RE: 'dub Invitational Week Five: willi_dudat vs. Ezzsential....
Posted by willi_dudat, Thu Mar-16-06 10:00 AM
>beat was different, I mean that in a good way, felt it.
>lyrics were tight too, you had something to say, and you said
>it, I felt the last verse the most. good shit. for
>constructive crit, imo: I think more sharpness might work
>better in some parts, depending on what your talkin about. to
>me it just sounded like you kept the same tone for most of it.
> sucks about the DQ, but at least this was still entertaining,
>props homey

yeah, this was my lab rat for a while... it was just an experiment i first did on my ol' ass dr-202 (which i still own and use)... it took two years to get the point its at... not like i worked endlessly on it... most of the lyrics were originally written two years ago, but i did a lil editin (ie the third verse was half and half--old and new)...

thanks for checkin it out... and i'll def work on being more variant in tone, even when i am tryin to convey a message...

peace
du
18321, this shit sounds fun,dude...
Posted by blak_yukon, Sat Mar-11-06 03:06 PM
the vocals are a bit flat, you tried to inject energy into'em but much like kanye. your production carried you through...


<--s'right--


me and the fellas would converge and heat up some Hot Pockets in preparation for Rap City. Roc

let's talk:
http://yukonmag.com
18322, DAMN!
Posted by FrontLIne, Sun Mar-12-06 10:05 AM
That beat iz crazy...I also like the subject on this joint...keep rappin'
18323, RE: DAMN!
Posted by hdub, Sun Mar-12-06 08:36 PM
haven't seen you around here in a while--- thanks for coming through and giving some feedback, this one's in sudden death mode if there's any chance you want to weigh in there as well:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=20&topic_id=18239&mesg_id=18239
18324, This was really really good
Posted by Whateva, Mon Mar-13-06 01:29 PM
The voice clarity could be better, but you surprised me on this willi. The cadence was on point and so were the lyrics. Good job.
18325, RE: This was really really good
Posted by willi_dudat, Thu Mar-16-06 10:01 AM
>The voice clarity could be better, but you surprised me on
>this willi. The cadence was on point and so were the lyrics.
>Good job.

thanks mayne, glad you like it...
peace
du
18326, The 3rd verse is where I felt it the most...
Posted by BarTek, Mon Mar-13-06 03:33 PM
As far as production is concerned.. I can hear what you are trying to do with the drums, but it's not working as well as you want it to. The drums don't compliment eachother and sometimes you lose the beat. It's a great idea, I have attempted it before, and it just needs a bit more practice but you'll get it. Did you EQ every drum the same or did you EQ them seperately? I think they need to be more cohesive and more on the beat. The way I do it is by programming a drum pattern with one kit, and using another kit to substitute some of the kicks, hats, or snares, as apposed to trying to lay a different rhythm. From this point, I get more experimental as you do all over this track. Finally, I pick drums which sound good together.. a hard clap, a softer clap. A hard kick, a softer kick. Good job, I really dig the lyrics and you really got on point on the last verse, that's a great way to leave a track. Peace

@}-,-`-

He looks determined without being ruthless
Something heroic in this man, there's a courage about him
Doesn't look like a killer
Comes across so calm, acts like he has a dream
Full of passion
18327, RE: The 3rd verse is where I felt it the most...
Posted by willi_dudat, Thu Mar-16-06 10:04 AM
>As far as production is concerned.. I can hear what you are
>trying to do with the drums, but it's not working as well as
>you want it to. The drums don't compliment eachother and
>sometimes you lose the beat. It's a great idea, I have
>attempted it before, and it just needs a bit more practice but
>you'll get it. Did you EQ every drum the same or did you EQ
>them seperately? I think they need to be more cohesive and
>more on the beat. The way I do it is by programming a drum
>pattern with one kit, and using another kit to substitute some
>of the kicks, hats, or snares, as apposed to trying to lay a
>different rhythm. From this point, I get more experimental as
>you do all over this track. Finally, I pick drums which sound
>good together.. a hard clap, a softer clap. A hard kick, a
>softer kick. Good job, I really dig the lyrics and you really
>got on point on the last verse, that's a great way to leave a
>track. Peace

post 15 explains the progression of the track being made... yeah, im strivin for that somethin else, y'know... i think imma find it too...

for the most part this was done on my 202 and transferred onto my laptop... i know i need plenty work on mixing, esp on vocals...

PSA: im workin on it y'all, bear with me... LOL...

but yeah, thanks for peepin...
peace
du
18328, Justus League-esque
Posted by Shakeet Lokh Em, Mon Mar-13-06 04:00 PM
That was hot yo. You sound like Chaundon too, with a real smooth track. And got that same swagger. I wish your vocals was clearer, but when you recordin from the crib you can only expect so much. LOL (speaking from experience)But all things being equal, I really liked it. Keep at it man, honestly.
18329, RE: Justus League-esque
Posted by willi_dudat, Thu Mar-16-06 10:06 AM
>That was hot yo. You sound like Chaundon too, with a real
>smooth track. And got that same swagger. I wish your vocals
>was clearer, but when you recordin from the crib you can only
>expect so much. LOL (speaking from experience)But all things
>being equal, I really liked it. Keep at it man, honestly.

thanks sha, appreciate the words...

peace
du
18330, RE: 'dub Invitational Week Five: willi_dudat vs. Ezzsential....
Posted by Prolif, Mon Mar-13-06 11:13 PM
i really wont feeling this will....i thought the lyrics were good though...but the drums turned me off from the jump....it was just too much going on in the track - overlapping each other....i know u can put together a more cohesive joint, so i look forward to hearing you next round kid

<----- my phone


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/lifthalegend_music.htm

"look! i DON'T tell the beat what to do....the beat is like my brother...i gotta listen and relate to him" -- raekwon
18331, RE: 'dub Invitational Week Five: willi_dudat vs. Ezzsential....
Posted by willi_dudat, Thu Mar-16-06 10:08 AM
>i really wont feeling this will....i thought the lyrics were
>good though...but the drums turned me off from the jump....it
>was just too much going on in the track - overlapping each
>other....i know u can put together a more cohesive joint, so i
>look forward to hearing you next round kid

didn't expect as many to really dig it as it turned out... thanks for checkin it out tho... hopefully you'll dig my next joint...
peace
du
18332, Willi~Willi~Willi ...
Posted by PhotoSynthesis, Tue Mar-14-06 05:28 PM
Your voice/flow kinda reminds me of MiracleRic's -- :)


I have to echo whatz been said already -- "This was an entertaining joint with head noddin' niceness, but clarity is missing -- (Sounds a lil' fuzzy in spots)


I enjoyed it tho!


18333, RE: Willi~Willi~Willi ...
Posted by willi_dudat, Thu Mar-16-06 10:10 AM
>Your voice/flow kinda reminds me of MiracleRic's -- :)

????

>I have to echo whatz been said already -- "This was an
>entertaining joint with head noddin' niceness, but clarity is
>missing -- (Sounds a lil' fuzzy in spots)
>
>
>I enjoyed it tho!

thanks photo... about the miracle ric comment... ive only HEARD him flow once so i don't follow... how are we even similar??? just askin...
18334, Actually ...
Posted by PhotoSynthesis, Thu Mar-16-06 08:24 PM
I haven't heard MiracleRic's flow innnna while -- But -- (if I'm recalling correctly) -- your "voice" reminds me of his -- (Maybe it's the depth or fullness of your voice, I dunnno) -- *shruggs*

But you sound like a new & improved version of his steelo, nahmean? -- (From what I can remember) -- :)


I believe he'll be on the circuit next go~round (AUDIO Style) -- In the tournament -- So we'll see.

I might wind ^UP^ eatin' my words -- *chuckles*




18335, Ezz...
Posted by willi_dudat, Thu Mar-16-06 10:12 AM
don't know what happened but i was lookin fwd to hearin from you... holla at us...

if you got sum'n done post it so we can hear it... if not, we understand...

peace
du
18336, oh shit.. i forgot about this..
Posted by Ezzsential, Thu Mar-16-06 11:50 PM

- I write battle verses to Mariah Carey songs...www.soundclick.com/ezzsentialsoul
www.myspace.com/ezzsentialsoul
www.webspawner.com/users/delicateaurasoul4/index.html

i love VH1 Soul & Adult Swim!
18337, Where in the world have you been yo
Posted by Shakeet Lokh Em, Fri Mar-17-06 12:45 AM
Wait...you just had a newborn. lol That would explain it.
18338, yeah so we know who won but um
Posted by Rajeniro757, Sat Mar-18-06 06:57 PM
Willi you did the damn thing shit i think i owe you money
18339, RE: yeah so we know who won but um
Posted by willi_dudat, Sat Mar-18-06 10:20 PM
LOL...

thanks for checkin it out, duke...

*refuses raj's money*

its all good...