-method has and always will be sick w/ the wordplay. i've always thought of him & red as one in the same, while tending to favor meth' on some love of wu-tang 'ish- and while i will say that redman's lp's are way better, i can't agree with you basically saying that meth' fell off. it's just like i said, you know what to expect from him. both of them for that matter, but the man does know how to compose a verse. both of 'em do. and again, dre's cool, but he's not among the elite. come to think of it, he doesn't excell THAT much over big boi....