-compared to what these clowns are throwing at us in debate, is he that bad? i mean, it's kinda' like when we say "i can always expect so & so to be so & so". take ja rule, for example. (i know. his name should be no where near this topic) ok, let's say ludacris. you always know what to expect from him. not in a bad way, but moreso in a sense that if you're a ludacris fan for whatever reason, he never let's you down. when speaking of the roots & tariq, i feel like the greatness that was captured on tfa had always been there, and hasn't gone away yet. if anything, they've evolved SO much more, contrary to popular belief. if you ask me, illadelph was just as superior as tfa, and anything before or after was growth....