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44306, RE: please tell me
Posted by JIHAD, Tue May-16-06 08:37 PM
dog,please...

come with some uptempo shit, with a bassline o.k. ?

I talked to a straight hip-hop dummy who summed the Roots up perfectly, and I quote:

"These guys stuff is all mid-tempo, it's not soft, but it's more like wallpaper,nothing ever jumps out, the beats are COOL, the rhymes are COOL...but it's usually pretty flat"

I feel that that dummy spoke for once with some serious insight.
He's right.
Y'all play it a little too safe (BPM/Dynamic wise).
You get a lil' crazy and it's like Scooby ate too many pot brownies (Water)

Now I'm really not trying to crack, cuz you posed the question.

I remember when Late Registration came out, my first reaction to "Crack Music" was I would love it if "the Roots" sounded like this (as a band...in a room with a mic) on a track.

This joint sounds like you and Kamal collaborated two individual pieces into a beat. Where's Hub? Where's Knuckles?, Where's Capt. Kirk?

If it's gonna be like that...just let Thought shine over the Dilla beat. That has a bassline, a dope beat, and is UPTEMPO.

and I'm not trying to rake you over the coals,player.

It seems you're trying to please more than one master.

If you gotta do radio...blow radio away. This track ain't gonna blow radio away. This is gone Ghostface and not even be on the radar by the time the album drops.

I ain't saying you gotta go club single, but y'all do too many tracks for the "bitches" (that's that mid-tempo shit again)...I consider it the "Apple Martini Movement".

If y'all niggas ain't got nothing that sounds like a BAND freaking the "jungle boogie" sample on some Bomb Squad/Dilla ish with Thought ripping it...then fuck it...you gonna be grumblin' about Gnarls Barkley eating your dinner and Andre and Big Boi wearing your shoes this time next year.

I wish you'd hear me though.


>what in the world is on radio today that sounds like this.
>
>for real.
>
>no bait-o
>
>and i SWEAR i aint tryna engage the naysayers into anytype of
>debate---ie yall being afraid to say what's on your minds.
>
>but if you gonna make a point i want that shit to be
>bulletproof.
>
>pushing hip hop?
>
>what is pushing hip hop.
>
>first of yall you can't dismiss that most of yall are
>streaming this song listening on small ass computer speakers
>(in other words i doubt you are banging this in the whip where
>the shit truly counts)
>
>wow i really had cats wrong on this.
>
>i avoided the e

asy chipmunk route
>i avoided the cymbal crash emphasizing the hook ie just blaze
>i avoided the "yall do the same shit over" thing with no
>rhodes/dilla isms
>no shuffles or stop on the dime club rhythms ("Fatty Girl"
>"fiesta")
>even took my trademark snaps out just so i would'nt get
>accused of biting something i been doing on my records since
>day one.
>
>what breakbeat on radio does this sound like?
>
>like did i bite a pattern?
>
>or did you mean the girl?
>
>but yet and still i doubt you'd scoff at mary j singin "you're
>all i need to get by"
>
>and even at that this aint even a love song! lol
>
>so i beg of all you cats. step from out the shadow of the
>alias (why are all the naysayers under 1000? lol) like help me
>understand what you expect from us.
>
>(shrugs)
>
>maybe you just outgrown us.
>
>i dont know what more to say.
>
>this shit bangs the fuck outta my ride. kicks are deep and my
>snare pops. and as far as being "impressed"
>
>what trick do you want?
>
>yall looking for tricks to keep you entertained.
>
>for real...i want a real known okaycritic to come with
>something concrete that i can understand.
>
>
>go wake up buildingblock. play him this so i can unnderstand
>what standard yall putting me in...i'll be damned if i get
>raked over the coals for doing EASILY the closest thing to the
>anti roots "break you off"/"dont say nothing" shit i knew yall
>were gonna hate.
>
>
>if you looking for "tricks" (wow! he can scat and rhyme at the
>same time!! cool!!!!)
>or "personality" (wow! the way he said "raaaow raoow like a
>dungeon dragon!!!!" cool!!!)
>or the i know its coming "where's hov?" "where's nas?"
>"where's ghost?" "where's kanye?" post...i mean that to me
>reads "easy". i enjoy the art of all my label mates but that
>to me is starting on the wrong foot.
>
>why can't we just be consistant on our 3 pointers? like we
>gotta 360 monster jam shit from the half court EVERYtime?
>
>"wow you hear that drum and bass thing on you got me?"
>
>sorry folks...that was called "a trick"---look "innovative" or
>"cutting edge" but at the end of the day that was a seaworld
>"trick".
>
>the beauty/coolness of "you got me" was that it was a great
>song. not "the drum shit at the end". that was my dave
>letterman stupid human trick/cherry on top.
>
>keep em coming, we might as well debate now before the album
>comes out.