lord can i PLEASE master a record in the sony building and the shit turn out the way it should be?)

they sent the wrong parts.


this is the 3rd mixed "Don't Feel Right" mixed by timberlands engineer jimmy douglas (Slave too)


but the snare sounds soft

so the version on the album is NOT the version on "pre game"

so--well the few "complete" buffs we got. this was NOT the version i liked.

HOW our mastering guy mixed this with the album version i dont know.

the ONLY cool shit about this was the BASS BLURP is gone on the third verse (something i overlooked)

did i pull a jag by letting this out the bag?

lol---this is the wrong "here i come" too...lol

drums all low.

ugh

I'd still like to listen to them more than thirty seconds. But since I live in Europe I can't even spend my money for the Pre-Game - german iTunes doesn't offer it.

Wonder if the okayplayer store will ship the bundled package all overseas?

Thanks for TOURING Europe! Already got my ticket (Nov 24th).

(sorry for sending this via message, 15! This is my first post. Just didn't know how it worked)

who is the MC on bread and butter?

--you're right that snare is weak on Don't Feel Right

.....truck north......u aint heard homie...???....lol....
{*^YnG'^ *TkR*}

didn't recognize the voice

dope verse

---gza

(jokes)

See.....people like it.....lol
I need a lil fiasco.....
Kick and some push......
{*^YnG'^ *TkR*}

drove from sf to flagstaff az today and song made 5 playlist. sheeeits fresh mang, lovin the pre game yall. drum quality between the leaked dont feel right and now are crazy. look forward to the real final that will surface sometime

cause i think the drums were a bit soft on many of the tracks when they should be louder since it has that raw feel to it.

I noticed this too, hopefully it's not the fully mastered version

Either way, album still knocks.

I think that (unless it's unmastered) "Long Time" sounds a little digital and compressed, not as large as it should sound with the orchestration and all. Just throwing that out there.

almost posted this same thing earlier, Long Time sounds a little fogged over


if you suck your thumb yo, suck your thumb yo (c) Ghostface

if you're going for that Motown/soul sound. yall done nailed that sound!

but is there a single we can download on Itunes? is that the 'pre-game ep?'

we will have mastered this jawn 5 times across 3 different engineers.

this is what the press got. a lil "rush" version.---i think yall got the 2nd mastered version.

i got all noid when tom was breaking down the distortion on "dont feel right" so i used jay and b's masterer engineer.

but the album is way clearer and louder and banging

But I'm glad that you are a perfectionist ?uest, cuz in the end its the Fans that win!

Is the 'correct' version on the promotional vinyl Def jam sent out last week? (Still waiting for my eBay'd copy to arrive.)

You sound like you got some mastering woes for sure.

If you need some muscle to set these guys straight -let me know.

-Tom Hayes
http://www.therootsarchive.com

pssh where was Russ The Dragon??

btw where can i get pre-game @???

young guru is jay's engineer.

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can't wait for the album.
good to hear malik b. and trucknorth kills it on bread & butter.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1537230/20060726/tribe_called_quest.jhtml?headlines=true

Quest is at it again? NBA 2K7 featuring questlove for the second year in a row. Also A tribe Called Quest to head the Bounce Tour which the roots hosted last year.

so is it the pre-game EP that's fucked up, or are we talkin Game Theory itself?

i'm lost.

album is straight.
the "parts" sent to the factory for apple to use were wrong
they mixed up the titles (each song has been mastered and mixed a combined 10 times a song)

so im sure there was a mixup like



(looks at shelf with roots dats in a row)

dont feel right
dont feel right clean
dont feel right edit
dont feel right clean edit
dont feel right-4/3 recall
dont feel right clean-4/3 recall
dont feel right edit-4/3 recall
dont feel right clean edit-4/3 recall
dont feel right-j douglas
dont feel right clean-j douglas
dont feel right edit-j douglas
dont feel right clean edit-j douglas
dont feel right-j douglas recall 6/1
dont feel right clean-sony mix-recall 6/1
dont feel right edit-sony mix-recall 6/1
dont feel right clean edit-sony mix-recall 6/1
dont feel right-sony recall
dont feel right clean-sony recall
dont feel right edit-sony recall
dont feel right clean edit-recall


this is to give you an idea of what shelves and boxes look like when they get shipped to mastering.

and 100% its never this neat. you gotta go through dat after dat until you find

"dont feel right 6/15 recall, sony ahmir"

that is the approved album version.

they just grabbed one of the other jawns off the album

normally there is no need for alarm in this area cause if you say "i want "dont feel right 6/15 recall, sony ahmir" on the "pre game ep.

then you just trust they do it.

something told me to check "just to make sure"

glad i did.

too bad the ep fell apart but i'm glad the album is straight. for a sec there i thought we had a TTP-style fiasco on our hands, w/ everyone freaking out on the release date.

?uest said to himself, "hey sumthin don't feel right, let me check." don't feel right, feel right!

there was a rumor it cost almost 10 million to make.

This is one of, if not THE cheapest Roots album yet...

mixing 13(and maybe the 4 that were cut) songs 10 times each isn't free.
then you got the use of strings & choirs...
clearing the samples...
the art layout...
the mastering (which i guess they had to do twice because quest mentioned firing tom coyne)
the production of the cd's/LP's themself...
and then the video & promotion (but i havent seen either)

put down the moonshine

times have really changed on the money tip.
artists now pay for their own videos and get little if 0 help.
and somehow we managed to keep the budget under the water level
(well on the real a majority of this record was done during the 4 month
"blackout period" with no budget and us squeeeeeeeezing favors out the ass
--but nah. not ten.
most of our records cost somewhere in the area of 7 figs to make.

sheeet son, that's harsh.
7 figs seems pretty high, but hey, all the extra time, and unfortunatly money, goes for something right?

and as if it's taken this long, or this many takes, to master the whole LP. I don't think it's unfair to be annoyed at the engineers, they have to deal with crap all the time and try and 'fix' problems in the mix, their way. Each person is different, so I can see this being a rather tedious affair.

Keep up fam, it'll be worth it; mastering is what makes or breaks the majority of records, nowadays especially.

that aint new info buddy

well, it's news to me, and thx for the info.
I'm sorry if I don't know everything Roots related; I don't see why you gotta pounce like that.

Regardless, I still think it's fairly high, that's all. It makes sense and all, but still.

?????????????

not the mix

I could very well be wrong, but I've never seen Bob listed as the mastering engineer (sure he's done it somewhere along the line though)

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i kid.

Come to my pad over in Netherland. Now I got my American equipment and I transform them shits so you know the electricity is real dirty, all kinds of voltage fluctuation.
I got a real shitty tape recorder (I mean them shits clicks while not on play or record mode) and we can put it on good old type II's. Transfer them to my Boss CD900 recorder.
Shitty is pretty.
and I always make the snare peak just a tad just to make it snap a dirty whip.

so there's noone making sure the mastering plant only gets the right versions (by making a pre master compilation with the correct versions in the right order), or who sits in on the mastering sessions to make sure the right versions end up on the right album versions ???

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do you think "bread and butter" should be on the album? just kidding, is there any other way to be able to get this song other than the pre ep thing? maybe this could be a bonus track for the next roots come alive, which is coming out soon, right quest?

think its suppose to be on the european version of game theory as a bonus track, but don't think that is confirmed yet.

and i still aint downloading the leak. im gonna be anxious for this one, as ive have with all of your work.

people are going to think something is wrong with the ALBUM when the issue is with the EP.

sigh.

dude. we're trying to help you *maximize* your record sales. LOL.
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