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41173, muscles, please tell us about the night you battled krs one
Posted by buildingblock, Fri Sep-01-06 01:00 AM
and about that new music seminar battle where you allegedly took the belt from mikey d

i've only heard about them in passing and would like the real account
thanks
41174, *pulls up chair*
Posted by shockzilla, Fri Sep-01-06 02:47 AM
41175, *ears perk up*
Posted by phenompyrus, Fri Sep-01-06 02:49 AM
*ahem*
...
41176, * sits indian style on the floor, chin in hands..... *
Posted by MistaGoodBar, Fri Sep-01-06 08:47 AM
41177, *puts on jeans that has 'muscles' written across the bum*
Posted by rainbowchild, Fri Sep-01-06 09:00 AM
muscles! muscles! muscles!
41178, yeah, I would love to hear those stories
Posted by J_Sun, Fri Sep-01-06 09:13 AM

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41179, i remember this young Kris kid asking me to back off the turn tables.
Posted by Jon, Fri Sep-01-06 10:10 AM
thought it was an unfair advantage for muscles to have me as the DJ.

so muscles and i let his DJ do the whole thing. muscles still took the crowd with this kid's own DJ.

who knew that kid would turn out to be one of the greatest live performers of all time after that. bat crazy to boot.

its love

we need to bring love back into things

41180, is this for real?
Posted by jamesL, Thu Sep-07-06 04:56 PM
you tellin the truth?
41181, true that, please kick the truth
Posted by steelreserve40, Fri Sep-01-06 10:22 AM
shit, krs battles, any interesting stories. im starving for any stories/reflections/insights on the foundation of the culture.

41182, Push Up. GET IT?!?!? n/m
Posted by DVS, Fri Sep-01-06 05:10 PM
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41183, roasts marshmallows on the electric stove top,....
Posted by Zen_the_Jedi, Sat Sep-02-06 08:55 AM
Hands out kool-aid cups to everyone,.............





peace
41184, i heard he boxed willie d
Posted by lazyboi, Sat Sep-02-06 04:35 PM
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41185, RE: muscles, please tell us about the night you battled krs one
Posted by PDT, Sat Sep-02-06 07:36 PM
Hells yeah, we need some of them true school stories.
41186, RE: muscles, please tell us about the night you battled krs one
Posted by buildingblock, Sun Sep-03-06 01:12 PM
41187, *cues 'muscles' by diana ross* ^
Posted by rainbowchild, Sun Sep-03-06 05:54 PM
I wanna hear the answers to, when he gets back off tour.
41188, I heard the story on the Wake Up Show website a while ago...
Posted by TheMatthewMovement, Mon Sep-04-06 01:55 AM
http://www.sonypictures.com/screenblast/wakeupshow/
41189, RE: I heard the story on the Wake Up Show website a while ago...
Posted by Re_Alief, Wed Sep-06-06 06:13 PM
Just came from there...it's the 6th part where Kris talks about the battle.
41190, RE: I heard the story on the Wake Up Show website a while ago...
Posted by playSERIOUS, Fri Sep-15-06 08:50 AM
the link to krs-one's interview seems to be outdated.

anyone have a copy or other ideas on how 2 hear krs's take on the mele mel battle?






41191, *smiles with glee*
Posted by Origin05, Mon Sep-04-06 02:23 AM

Cannot wait to hear this!
41192, *Grabs a box of Crunch 'n Munch and some Gummi savers*
Posted by BIG-B, Wed Sep-06-06 10:29 AM
Really? I gots to see her about this one in detail because KRS is my MAN
41193, ^NORTH
Posted by jetblack, Wed Sep-06-06 10:09 PM
41194, yo, and can we call you Mel? 'Muscles' make me think of Ced The
Posted by poetx, Thu Sep-07-06 10:07 AM
Entertainer on some "I ain't callin no dude Delicious".

jokes, fam. but i'd like to hear about that. and even moreso about how it went down w/ Sylvia and Bobby and the politics behind recording "The Message".

also, my operating premise is that all the pioneers got jerked and ain't seeing paper off these compilations and rhino reissues (thank goodness for them, though). if you are getting paid off stuff you did on sugarhill, how do the points work out? (i talk to a lot of young kids about the economics and other considerations behind music and sports careers vs. math and science, this would be invaluable either way). plus, lemme find out you only getting a nickel off a 15 dolla cd and i'm like F.T.D.S., i'll burn it and paypal you 50 cent or somethin.



peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.
41195, ^
Posted by buildingblock, Sun Sep-10-06 03:19 PM
41196, ^
Posted by buildingblock, Wed Sep-13-06 10:56 AM
41197, hope springs eternal
Posted by buildingblock, Thu Sep-14-06 09:52 AM
41198, RE: muscles, please tell us about the night you battled krs one
Posted by MUSCLES, Thu Sep-14-06 11:03 PM
What’s up players? Back on the boards to address a few things that should be cleared up.

#1. Mele Mel vs. KRS-One

It was a Friday night in the Latin quarters & Boogie Down Productions were performing. Someone, who I choose not to mention, told KRS that I dissed BDP (which I didn’t). While they were on stage performing, KRS called me out. I jumped on stage. We both said a rhyme (I don’t remember who went first) and we agreed that we would come back the following Friday and square off for money (I don’t remember how much). That next Friday BDP had a show and the battle never happened. Shortly after that, Scott LaRock, KRS & I squashed the whole thing. Very anti-climatic. But, as legends go, we did battle, and 20 years from now the rumor will be that I shot him. Hypothetical result: He’d have a way better chance to take me now. I had way, way, way, way too many rhymes.

#2 Mele Mel vs. Mikey D.

As legends have it, we “battled”. In reality, the year before I won the The New Music Seminar battle for world supremacy (or whatever the f--- they called it). Me, Caz & King Sun were in the finals (best battle in the history of hip-hop). Prior to that year, everyone who had won came back the next year to defend their title, but for some reason, I was not allowed to. And, to add insult to injury, they took a year to give me the belt that I had won. So, what I did, to prove to Tom Silverman (the creator of The New Music Seminar) that I had just as much power in hip-hop as him, I challenged Mikey D. as a bluff to take both the belts. I was not really thinking about Mikey D., but was getting revenge on Tom Silverman for 1.) not letting me defend my title & 2.) waiting ‘till the next seminar to give me the prize that I had won a whole year before. In other words, I said a rhyme, Caz gave me Mikey D.’s belt & I walked out of the joint without security or anyone else doing anything to me. Mele Mel owns hip-hop.

#3 Mele Mel vs. Willie D.

It was at a celebrity boxing tournament. Me & Willie D. were in the ring. Round 1, we both tried to throw a punch and our heads clashed and we both went down. Willie D., whose head was much harder than mine, got up before me. When I got up, I was on queer street and they stopped the fight. Willie D. was declared the winner. He was a HEAD of his time. (lol).

So there it is players, all of the dirty details as told by the man himself.


41199, ^^^ That's whats up.
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Sep-14-06 11:08 PM
41200, thanks again for being on Okayplayer
Posted by auxyray, Fri Sep-15-06 12:22 AM
41201, preciate it
Posted by buildingblock, Fri Sep-15-06 03:12 AM
41202, i wish there was video for that
Posted by rl9, Fri Sep-15-06 09:32 AM
thanks for sharing those memories.
41203, Wow
Posted by The Provoken, Fri Sep-15-06 09:51 AM
Thanks for that
41204, This is the type of stuff I like to read about.......
Posted by MistaGoodBar, Fri Sep-15-06 10:30 AM
41205, Mele Mel vs. KRS-One
Posted by BIG-B, Fri Sep-15-06 11:26 AM
Well that's settled, I didn't even start on the Crunch n Munch lol

Shoot I'll take that word, Thanks Mele Mel.
41206, RE: Mele Mel vs. KRS-One
Posted by bassboy, Fri Sep-15-06 02:04 PM
Than's for the info glad to see you respond to all the questions so let's move on. Bring on the Muscles Album.
41207, RE: muscles, please tell us about the night you battled krs one
Posted by okhumboldt, Fri Sep-15-06 05:01 PM
nice
41208, Mele Mel is too humble
Posted by UniversalXplorer, Fri Sep-15-06 05:45 PM

Mel got onstage, did pushups onstage while mikey d was rhyming..

got the belt..stepped off the stage...walked into the audience,the crowd parted like the red sea and mele mel just walked right out of the venue...

one of the most unpublicized gangster moments in hip hop



>#2 Mele Mel vs. Mikey D.
>
>As legends have it, we “battled”. In reality, the year before
>I won the The New Music Seminar battle for world supremacy (or
>whatever the f--- they called it). Me, Caz & King Sun were in
>the finals (best battle in the history of hip-hop). Prior to
>that year, everyone who had won came back the next year to
>defend their title, but for some reason, I was not allowed to.
> And, to add insult to injury, they took a year to give me the
>belt that I had won. So, what I did, to prove to Tom
>Silverman (the creator of The New Music Seminar) that I had
>just as much power in hip-hop as him, I challenged Mikey D. as
>a bluff to take both the belts. I was not really thinking
>about Mikey D., but was getting revenge on Tom Silverman for
>1.) not letting me defend my title & 2.) waiting ‘till the
>next seminar to give me the prize that I had won a whole year
>before. In other words, I said a rhyme, Caz gave me Mikey
>D.’s belt & I walked out of the joint without security or
>anyone else doing anything to me. Mele Mel owns hip-hop.
41209, you should have to post a story or somethin like this
Posted by Goose, Fri Sep-15-06 09:49 PM
weekly... that would be excellent
41210, wow
Posted by _Spread_, Sat Sep-16-06 01:27 AM
this is one of my favorite okp moments ever
41211, ^^exactly^^
Posted by nocturnal, Mon Sep-25-06 03:42 PM
....
41212, RE: Mele Mel owns hip-hop.
Posted by , Sat Sep-16-06 02:05 AM
You sure do.
Thank you for this post.


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41213, RE: muscles, please tell us about the night you battled krs one
Posted by sandmann, Mon Sep-18-06 08:44 AM
Good stories Mel.....


I sat down and broke bread with Charlie Chase (Cold Crush Brothers) last night.... It was great hearing all the old stories he told

He was talking about when they battled you guys not so long ago (an oldschool event that Hot 97 promoted)
41214, Mel Speaks Truth.
Posted by apathetic, Mon Sep-18-06 05:18 PM
41215, Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by Airbreed, Sat Sep-23-06 12:33 PM
>#2 Mele Mel vs. Mikey D.
>
>As legends have it, we “battled”. In reality, the year before
>I won the The New Music Seminar battle for world supremacy (or
>whatever the f--- they called it). Me, Caz & King Sun were in
>the finals (best battle in the history of hip-hop). Prior to
>that year, everyone who had won came back the next year to
>defend their title, but for some reason, I was not allowed to.
> And, to add insult to injury, they took a year to give me the
>belt that I had won. So, what I did, to prove to Tom
>Silverman (the creator of The New Music Seminar) that I had
>just as much power in hip-hop as him, I challenged Mikey D. as
>a bluff to take both the belts. I was not really thinking
>about Mikey D., but was getting revenge on Tom Silverman for
>1.) not letting me defend my title & 2.) waiting ‘till the
>next seminar to give me the prize that I had won a whole year
>before. In other words, I said a rhyme, Caz gave me Mikey
>D.’s belt & I walked out of the joint without security or
>anyone else doing anything to me. Mele Mel owns hip-hop.

...u gotta repect him for that 'fam.

41216, RE: Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by playSERIOUS, Sun Sep-24-06 05:48 PM
how do u figure? muscles said that he did a rap & then walked out with both belts (mikey d's & mel's own from the year before).

who decided mikey was the winner?

tom silverman?
41217, RE: Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by Airbreed, Sun Sep-24-06 09:45 PM
>how do u figure? muscles said that he did a rap & then
>walked out with both belts (mikey d's & mel's own from the
>year before).
>
>who decided mikey was the winner?
>
>tom silverman?

son... you didn't pay attention to what he said.

mel said he walked out with both belts. he didn't say that he won.

its a known fact that mike beat him.
41218, RE: Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by playSERIOUS, Sun Sep-24-06 10:06 PM
that's what i'm sayin', how is it a known fact?

UniversalXplorer said that "Mele Mel is too humble"

and...

described what happened as ...

"Mel got onstage, did pushups onstage while mikey d was rhyming..

got the belt..stepped off the stage...walked into the audience,the crowd parted like the red sea and mele mel just walked right out of the venue...

one of the most unpublicized gangster moments in hip hop."


did you see something different?

how is it "a known fact" that mikey won?




41219, RE: Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by Airbreed, Mon Sep-25-06 12:34 PM
>that's what i'm sayin', how is it a known fact?

1. do your research.

2. because i know mike's crew.
41220, RE: Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by playSERIOUS, Mon Sep-25-06 01:31 PM
just cause you know mike's crew doesn't make your misguided opinion into being a "known fact"

yes, long after mele mel had left the building, tom sullivan (who was also repping mikey d.) declared mikey d. to be that years champ. he also later gave mikey d. another belt to replace the one that mele mel took from him.

a week later, mele mel saw mikey d. with the new "tom sullivan replacement belt" at a club. when mikey d. saw that mele mel had entered the club, mikey d. quickly hid his new replacement belt.

mikey d. was afraid mele mel was gonna snatch that one too!!! hahaha!!!

so where in all of this did mikey d. actually defeat mele mel at anything?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

just cause tom sullivan bought mikey d. a new belt, that doesn't mean mikey d. actually defeated mele mel. it just means tom sullivan bought mikey d. a new belt.

and, remember, this is the same tom sullivan who was pushing mikey d. at the time AND the same tom sullivan who didn't even invite mele mel into the competition that year despite mele mel being the defending champion.

truth hurts.

don't rely on "mike's crew" to give you a self-serving spin 20 years after the fact.

it all went down just like "UniversalXplorer" said it did.

do some REAL research before you start spitting some bullshit about "known facts".


41221, RE: Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by Airbreed, Mon Sep-25-06 03:03 PM
**LOL @ you getting defensive**

...after reading all of that, ive come to realize that your a complete idiot.

s'all good homeboy. carry on.




41222, RE: Now don't get all P.C. on us Muscles... Mike did win that battle.
Posted by playSERIOUS, Mon Sep-25-06 04:06 PM
lol at you for quickly snapping back at each of my replys.

lol at you throwing personal insults at me to avoid facing facts and for you being exposed as a mikey d. groupie.

lol at you for you doing all of this while pretending not to care.