>i mean the MAIN gripe yall been giving us is "it dont sound
>like a band"
>
>i mean i fell back on the album yall like the least ---now
>THAT should tell you something.
>now aint the time to point fingers but i guarantee you that
>any highlight of a roots album most kayplayers ever had i had
>something to do with. i made this place and i know how mofos
>think simply because i am one of you.

i know, your making my point...you'll see

>
>if i put my hand down i wouldn't have a group...i'd have
>slaves
>
>but in a group situation you must work well with others.
>
>and i see it as a positive thing. sometimes balance is needed.
>let's breakdown the record yall swore i controlled from start
>to finish:
>
>@-very minimum input (gave my drum sounds to be sampled)
>@@-mild input, spiced up the situation so as to at least
>attempt to "sound like us" as opposed to the current climate
>the song was in
>@@@-had more to do with it in terms of the mix in which i was
>able to get "the roots" sound out
>@@@@-did fair share of the work, co anchoring the situation,
>probably had the last say from the mixing standpoint
>@@@@@-my baby
>
>
>rock you-@
>!!!!!!!!!!!-@@@@
>sacrifice-@@
>rolling with heat-@@
>thought@work-@@@@1/2
>the seed-@@@@
>break you off-
>i) video version in which d was involved-@@
>ii) day of mastering noticing this shit sounds dry and needs a
>"SPIKE" redo album version-@@@@@
>water-@@@@1/2
>quills-@@
>pussy galore-@
>complexity-@@@@
>something in the way of things-@@@@

of the 15 songs you listed. my personal favorite riq moments from that album (i was the 1 that got and enjoyed it first go 'round) are 1(shoulda been a single dammit), 4, 5(shoulda been a single dammit), 14, 15 and 16. thats 2 out of my favorite 6 that had little quest input. i had no idea of your involvement...interesting

i can spit rock you and water from memory becasue i be checking for the lyrics not checking for the beat (c) digga digga. but what is water known for...

im not saying your involvment is a bd thing. you make great music. its just that your music tends to outshine riq.
>
>
>

>
>i turn up the production because i want THE most superior
>sound i can get.
>
>i dont overdrum ever (see the 1,234,234,543,345,234 why dont
>quest do fills posts)
>i mean "water" was an art piece to musically show what its
>like in the head of malik....but despite the hell part i think
>riq's letter is THE most profound part of the song.
>
>i mean i think the "only" time i ever stole the show was the
>drum and bass part of "you got me"--besides that i
>dunno.....would you rather me fall back on doing the string
>part on "love of my life"?---last i checked that almost
>brought tears to a few eyes....

love of my life was all you? yeah i could see that and yeah it almost brought me to tears...im not ashamed to admit it.

you can't see it, but it happens. double trouble, and shit most of game theory especially that suite from in the music - living in a world, its all you. and its not a bad thing, it just outshines riq. riq was almost a trafic cop to you musical decisions.

an example of a producer oudoing an emcee: show me what you got. el presidente got out ryhmed by his instrumental (to paraphrase phonte). just didnt mean it, it just happened. he brought his A game and his A game just so happened to be better than His Agame that day.

but back on point.

>
>>maybe im imagining things, but put riq with another producer
>>and he blows people away....wth you, he's just another
>>instrument in the band...
>
>
>
>the average person dosn't see riq as engaging
>because...well...he aint.

true, but only on record. he has moments of brilliance on record compared to constant brilliance on stage. (granted his moments are superior to his peers).

>he still a craftsman...but...well--again i think people are
>judging based on the offstage shit. im the dude on okayplayer
>posting at 4am when probably someone is down the hall getting
>head from two fillipino chicks--no one is setting a standard
>like this ---so i look like the leader.

you group dynamic, although interesting to some doesn't change the music.

>but you have to see (and i have to say even in your case---and
>none of this is coming hard....just having a convo)---
>
>
>people cant blur the lines between judging us on the actual
>talent we display and the standard for which they set their
>templets and thresholds.


>i outdo riq because im more accessible than him.


your outdoing of riq has nothing to do with off stage antics . or even with as with engagability. it has everything to do with the work (for me at least). i dont stop for autographs after shows or stare during your dj sets (as long as the jams keep coming, i'm happy to groove with my folks). i'm a fan but not a stalker. its all on record and on stage. on stage riq is like no other and honestly that is where i can see the band being the background and riq taking charge. even if you are pulling the strings, his master of ceremony skills are in full view and he is mos def in charge. but on record...he blends in.

perfect examples: web and quills

the web on ttp is a great exercise in lyrical dexterity. but web live or from giles' show...a completely different animal.
the same goes for quills live. on giles riq is loose dynamic, but on record, i appreciate it differently. its hard to explain.

but look it might be hard for you to see yourself as outdoing your boy when you know how great he is. you never mean to do it. water was an art piece and a truely beautiful song. but come on man...the second half free-jazz section. the carter/nightmare portion of the record was way oever the top, and the reason the song gets mentioned. as heart felt and open as riq's open letter to malik was...what got more pub in every siongle review and interview...the length of the song and the chaotic ending. you..again.

at the end of the day your gonna do what you do, becasue its your record and you want to be rememebred and such. im just telling you how i see as a long time supporter and fan. you said once that your formula was going to be simple. out bang everybody and out spit everybody. yeah, you can outbang anybody, and riq can outspt anybody...just not at the same time.

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