I'm curious.

Anyone know approximately how many copies of "the minstrel show" were sold in its first week?

Think I just got the answer to my own question.

18000.

56 billboard.

Is 18 a good first week for their situation?

Not sure how artists like them should do...

18k is pretty bad.

except that according to them, they are not in the hole to atlantic for much because the album was done before they were signed.

Thus, since atlantic did not kick out much to put together album etc, they would realize profit much faster on this release and not need mega numbers to do it. 18K not great, but I dont think LB is under the same pressure other atlantic artists (read: bigger names, greater expectations) are under.

At least, that is my understanding of how the system works

dont get me wrong, im rootin for these cats, but thats not a great sign..... especially since everyone said this album is where they blow up.

for what they are 18k is a hell of alot.
I don't think they have any commercial appeal at all so to be on the billboards for what they do is pretty crazy.

nice to see them almost crack the top 50, but they gotta repay their advance, music videos, promotion,etc,etc,etc before they see any money, and 18k can't even be CLOSE to what they need to sell...but conversely, the label doesn't really seem to be doing their job pushing the record

Amen. The label isn't doing much for this record. They don't know how to push style and substance rather than a shallow gimmick.

If Dilated and SV do bigger numbers, why can't LB. I think they would have if "Lovin It" got some burn. The BET thing hurt them. Believe it.

>I don't think they have any commercial appeal at all

um... really?

- - - - -

"ask beavis, i get nothing but head" - big l

peace & love

sure.

i was talking to craig yesterday about 30 mins and i told them

dont be discouraged. build them cats. yall saw them for the first time at bbkings

and didnt know they had such a strong show. (lyor NONE OF THEM knew)

i said it took us 4 attempts to build fan base.

so on both ends...

work has to be done.

LB is going to have to SLAVE!!!! even when they dont think it will make a sound...MORE percy records...

MORE exchange joints

MORE 9th beats

MORE side projects.

atlantic on they end has to investigate on the scenic route to get LB to a safe non tsunami ground--

internet internet internet promotions....

pay for showcases.....

if lyor knows someone with LB's fanbase is touring (hello kanye!!!) then let little brother open....

but some innovative shit like pay to set a stage up in the lobby and let LB perform in the lobby of kayne's shows....

do shit that is out the box.

this is how the roots got over.

then maching NEVER let up

EVER.

and 4 albums later....we "arrived"

18 is great for first week lb.

for this album to see 200 is great.

no radio

no tv

just two good reviews in xxl/source to run with (atlantic should blast the reviews in the trades)

fuck radio and viacom

the labels are going to have to find OTHER routes to the finish line. there are....


we just need to pan together.

>dont be discouraged. build them cats. yall saw them for the
>first time at bbkings
>
>and didnt know they had such a strong show. (lyor NONE OF THEM
>knew)

i bought the first album and was a lil disappointed after all the hype.. but then i saw them at BB Kings early 04 and then i became a fan. They had a great show and were so happy on stage not with some big front like so many hip hop artists.

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>sure.
>
>i was talking to craig yesterday about 30 mins and i told
>them
>
>dont be discouraged. build them cats. yall saw them for the
>first time at bbkings
>
>and didnt know they had such a strong show. (lyor NONE OF THEM
>knew)
>
>i said it took us 4 attempts to build fan base.
>
>so on both ends...
>
>work has to be done.
>
>LB is going to have to SLAVE!!!! even when they dont think it
>will make a sound...MORE percy records...
>
>MORE exchange joints
>
>MORE 9th beats
>
>MORE side projects.
>
>atlantic on they end has to investigate on the scenic route to
>get LB to a safe non tsunami ground--
>
>internet internet internet promotions....
>
>pay for showcases.....
>
>if lyor knows someone with LB's fanbase is touring (hello
>kanye!!!) then let little brother open....
>
>but some innovative shit like pay to set a stage up in the
>lobby and let LB perform in the lobby of kayne's shows....
>
>do shit that is out the box.
>
>this is how the roots got over.
>
>then maching NEVER let up
>
>EVER.
>
>and 4 albums later....we "arrived"
>
>18 is great for first week lb.
>
>for this album to see 200 is great.
>
>no radio
>
>no tv
>
>just two good reviews in xxl/source to run with (atlantic
>should blast the reviews in the trades)
>
>fuck radio and viacom
>
>the labels are going to have to find OTHER routes to the
>finish line. there are....
>
>
>we just need to pan together.


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puttin it down like it burned my hand

>llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllylllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll6lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll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- - - - -

"ask beavis, i get nothing but head" - big l

peace & love

how you can get up into these record labels and help them with advertising...
I'm a copywriter, and there are different low budget things you can do to get noticed in music. And nobody ever does them. Where do I start?

jill scott did 18k her first week

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/lifthalegend_music.htm

"u wanna play ball or u wanna fight?" -- ray brown in the gym

I'm not sure what the numbers did, but I know the album is incredibly dope. That's exactly what hip-hop needed was hip-hop not that other flip-flop that's being put out to try and overshadow this kind of music. Big up to Little Brother for bringing an album that the world needed. I would love for the album to do big numbers because that would mean people are buying something serious for a change. The industry is backwards, they promote less talent for big $$$. If you feed em trash they will eat trash but not real hip-hop heads.

is it?
cause if so, then what does Little Brother do next, after this hype dies down?
I heard Dilated is dropping next spring... but on what label?
ABB or Capitol?

rap is outta control.



www.supremebeingunit.com
(daily updates of hip hop insanity... news from a new perspective, and other lovely surprises)

"tell the Queen of England to return the Royal stolen jewels/
fundamental justice is overdue/
spoken word destroying until every wa

i think it'll do well with SOME kinda exposure. the album is good. and like someone mentioned earlier if they start opening for some of these already established artist...LB will go places...bring back some dope hip hop.

Considering The Listening sold 35,000 copies with no advertisement at all (NONE!!!), this isn't too bad. I didn't expect them to do more than 25,000 in their first week when their only promotion is a video that doesn't get played and internet popup ads. I really hope they don't owe Atlantic more than $3 for their promotion budget

okay...they're well on their way!

>i think it'll do well with SOME kinda exposure. the album is
>good. and like someone mentioned earlier if they start
>opening for some of these already established artist...LB will
>go places...bring back some dope hip hop.

Yeah radio play is real soft. They played it like three or four times on 100.3 here in Philly, what pissed me off was they always said "This is real hip-hop you guys need to hear this.." and then go back to not playing it.

I hate the radio.

(or maybe they have, i haven't heard it) and they're performinig here. i guess they should keep doing what they doing.

They would have sold 18,001 if Atlantic had released the vinyl!

word!

-the sicknature begins here-

..Diatomic Elements..

everyone keeps saying no promotion, but for the record, i have seen two commercials for the minstrel show.

them on 106 and park or trl. I may burn a song here and there for people. I don't give up the whole album. Otherwise they are going to get lost in the shuffle and I will have all of the 50 cent and Ying Yang Twins that i can handle.

Even if you downloaded The Minstrel Show, get your ass off that computer chair and spend the 12 bucks supporting the JL movement

______________________________

R.I.P. - The Curse

Let's hug it out bitch
www.lhiob.com

1918-2004

NEW ENGLAND...FUCK YEAH!!!
http://www.myspace.com/strongliketauro

. . .and I`ma buy him a copy, since he`s made it clear that he has no intention of purchasing it himself. And I`ll continue to do this: whoever I put on to `em, I`ll buy `em a copy, cause niggas are broke nowadays. I`m not the richest guy myself, but hip hop does that to you, I guess.

If something is good then you gotta buy it, it should be a law. I bought The Listening, The Minstrel Show, both Chittlin Circuit mixtapes, NC State of Mind and The Singles Files (Thanks HipHopSite). I'm still looking for someone in NC to hook me up with copies of the Just Us mixtapes (I have all 9 but in MP3 and curious into what the covers of these look like cuz some of them are ancient history).

I could look into some sources for you.

Acting like those numbers aren't from the "internet bums"

Where's the video?
Mag ads?
Airplay?
Push?

Yall need to stop blaming downloads and look at the source.

Grow. Get Free. Fly.

http://www.jdaveybaby.com/

September is Prov's Sanaa Lathan Month

No message

she did 13k
WITH BET & RADIO!


just thought i'd give u another side

I imagine that their numbers will actually increase as the weeks go on instead of the typical decline that albums undergo. Like it was said earlier, Jill Scott sold 18K in her first week and she went Gold in 8 weeks (and won a Grammy!). Even if they didn't make a big splash their first week out, I expect LB to consistently sell 30-40K over the next couple months (Too early to start banking on a plaque tho)

Jill Scott video was played on all the major networks....i'm still waiting for Lovin' It to be on BET or MTV1 for that matter....People said they seen it on MTV2 and VH1 Soul but what about the other ones.