the title says is it all.

MESSE
NGER
(hidden gem ?uesto style)

i like it

.

it reminds me of quest's custom shirts.

It is kinda weak, but I don't care. I'm not buying it for the art.

... And every album can't have art like TFA or TTP.

and im still behind on the pre-phrenology stuff

nah i think it's good work.

it is hard typo-art. graphers will like it.

which it probably is,

Practically everything you ever see on your computer screen is designed in an adobe app. what's your point?

yes sir

who the fuck is doing blue note esque covers but us?

i think you are a newbie to classic jazz covers from the 50s and 60s

this wasnt no "aaww lemme throw something together at the last minute shit"

it is a DIRECT reference to a classic blue note album cover.

youngins...cant teach em shit

(and dont come back on some "i aint no youngin i know my shit" and then try to explain that you dont think bluenote covers are classic)

game over.

fact questo.

example: http://cover6.cduniverse.com/msiart/0000216/0000216401_170.jpg

now im not gonna front and pretend like i caught this reference right off the bat, but either way i got to agree that these 2 covers are just not doing it for me

i like all of the other roots covers i've seen- i even have a few 12"s i also dig the okp logo

i like this jazz messengers one that this guy linked to better tho these could be cooler if there was photos of the band on the bottom like this and maybe if when you put them together it was a complete photo

like a from the back photo of the guys on stage in a cool venue (some opera house type features like on come alive) and when you put it together you had the 360 of the whole band

also the color scheme on volume 2 is not doing it for me

its like some thanksgiving shit i would have made in elementary school

still, i love that this is coming out and i definitely plan to cop both. i think that for a project like this the cover isnt necessarily AS important because in a way its for the hardcore fans to just bookend their collection, but in terms of getting actual beginner's hooked it's not nearly eye catching enough + if you're a beginner to the roots you sure as hell wont be getting 60's blue note references

still like i said before i love most of the artwork and design that the roots have on their shit and im a huge fan and i better not have people jump on me for being a hater

want to hear something funny? i remember 58impala's 1st post and a few more of his early one's. why do i remember them??? cause this dude was a major dickrider, like if ?uest had had allowed him to this guy would have relished the opportunity to take up permanent residence in ?uest's boxers and now folks are calling him a major hater.

funny, what a few months on these boards will do to a man lol

to posting on these boards, and claiming you remember this dickriding shit since Nov 08th 2004. prove it. yeah the roots are my favorite band, but they aint perfect.

you only asking for me to prove it cause you know theres no way to

im sure 99% of people on here remember their first post i know i remember mine

why do i remember yours A) just cause im nice like that and B) cause at the time i was still pretty new here (really a member since 6/2/04) and your post was the first where i had been here long enough to say "oh THAT is a newbie"

you were all like "the roots are so amazing the greatest band in the history of music i saw them once and creamed my pants when oh when please jesus will they come to miami and do a show that isnt 21+ god damn you promoters for keeping me from the man i love mr ?uestlove damn you kool cigarettes"

and we both know in our heart of hearts that im telling the truth

you gonna try to say youre not in miami?

that youre not underage?

it nothing to be ashamed about my first post was on some i love the roots seeing them live was amazing thank all of you guys

you just were a little past that line from big fan to dickrider you rode them so hard i remember it a year later

and it funny to me now to see how the board turned you from rider to a bit of a hater

the board seems to be conducive to breeding haters--- ?uest says this shit is like his ant farm-- me i participate a lot on here but i still observe and you my friend have been observed

more proof? your first avy was one of the stock ok shits i think but then you went on quickly to a cuban flag you were riding for a few weeks there and i was watching you

>you were all like "the roots are so amazing the greatest band
>in the history of music i saw them once and creamed my pants

umm, ok. the only roots show i have been to was during the summer, now you making shit up. i wasn't even hip to the roots live show until i explored the site some and found out about therootslive.com

>when oh when please jesus will they come to miami and do a
>show that isnt 21+ god damn you promoters for keeping me from
>the man i love mr ?uestlove damn you kool cigarettes"

when did i say damn you kool cigarettes? yeah i do remember making a post about the roots not coming down to south florida as much as they do with other places. however i didnt know anything about the promoters untill ?uest mentioned it

>and we both know in our heart of hearts that im telling the
>truth
>
>you gonna try to say youre not in miami?

yeah im north of miami, but dude it says that in my profile and in my myspace, you aint proving shit.

>that youre not underage?

im 19, as it says on my myspace page

>it nothing to be ashamed about my first post was on some i
>love the roots seeing them live was amazing thank all of you
>guys

think is i dont remember my first post at all, and right now i could care less about it (the post above was a typo)

>you just were a little past that line from big fan to
>dickrider you rode them so hard i remember it a year later

funny, i discovered this site only when i was doing research on the band (typed in theRoots.com and got this) on the band, trying to find out more info on them. casual fan wouldnt even describe me at that point.

>and it funny to me now to see how the board turned you from
>rider to a bit of a hater
>
>the board seems to be conducive to breeding haters--- ?uest
>says this shit is like his ant farm-- me i participate a lot
>on here but i still observe and you my friend have been
>observed

really you need to get a life if you are keeping track of all this okp shit, i barely know whats going on now with okps and ill prolly forget 95% of that in 2 weeks. your claiming to remember shit from november of 2004, thats a year ago.

>more proof? your first avy was one of the stock ok shits i
>think but then you went on quickly to a cuban flag you were
>riding for a few weeks there and i was watching you

ok who didnt have a stock okayAvy for they first started posting. I change avys every week or two, so yeah it was really likely for me to have a cuban flag for an avy since cubans and latinos in general are known to be reppin their flag HARD. pretty easy for you to say that since my myspace link say CUBANKEN right in it.

am i being watched as well?

*looks over shoulders*

no artist, no mod, no ^ok, not even a b-list poster.

people that even care about album covers will frown at the adobe photoshop-esque look to it...

just my opinion though, i wasnt aware of any reference to a bluenote LP

>people that even care about album covers will frown at the
>adobe photoshop-esque look to it...
>just my opinion though, i wasnt aware of any reference to a
>bluenote LP

and not sure if u were aware but...there's absolutely no photoshop work to homegrown.

the 'photoshop' look.

photoshop is industry standard

some use it more than others...
but this cover couldnt look less photoshopy if it tried

>who the fuck is doing blue note esque covers but us?

ok i give you some credit, since no other hip hop group is doing this, but the cover isnt orginal


>i think you are a newbie to classic jazz covers from the 50s
>and 60s

and i think you didnt get the hidden gem in the top post


>this wasnt no "aaww lemme throw something together at the last
>minute shit"

never said that

>it is a DIRECT reference to a classic blue note album cover.

i know that, look that top post. except this doesnt work as well as the messenger cover. and it is a classic cover for the controversy it caused, but doesnt make the home grown cover that creative

I don't see the similarities between "Homegrown" cover and Blue Note stuff from Fifties and Sixties.
Art Blakey
Miles Davis pre "Kind of Blue"

but i guess they want/have to put that on there ■

once again
yall need reference points.
study blue note covers

it does not do a(ny) cover justice imho ■

i like simple simple shit.

you seen that logo for 13 years...its simple and classy to me.

i mean sure...we coulda went the GRAFFITI route. or had some logo like the wu tang logo.

but that wu logo is just a 90s thing to me. like if i see it now....i just think.."oh .....93"

not that its a bad thing.

but just what i think.

i chose a very simple font because i wanted some timeless shit. and to me when you see this okayplayer logo 90 years down the line its simplicity will stand the test of time like a tux.

to me this logo serves the purpose for the roots and all of its covers.

>i like simple simple shit.

im all for that, but i always prefered the okp logo on the things fall
apart flyer. remember that one? "okay player" spelled in capitals w/
the "okay" in bold. that was dope imho ■

that logo has never changed.
i mean variations in bold letters and maybe color scheme but
shit aint changed.

http://home.planet.nl/~kroes484/okplogo.jpg

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thats whats up!
a proper idea of simplicity in aesthetics applied to any form produces pleasing and powerful results.

BLAH DOW

I agree dood, I have yet to see a blue note cover that wasn't totally awsome. I have yet to see the cover of "home grown" tho. The best blue note cover has to be "blue trane" i have a giant wall poster thats like 5'x4' of that...epic.

that reminds me, someone stole my giant steps cd. damnit.

>study blue note covers

...said it all for me. thats exactly what i think whenever i see the okp logo.

good job family.

Dude is solid. He's let me down in the past (Neighborhood Watch was dumb, and the inside of EC wasnt too far from corny.) but he's never let me down with Roots shit. (Phreno is going to go down as classic, and TFAs cover was a perfect fit for the album)

Yo if you don't mind me asking, who's idea was it to pair the Gordon Parks photo with the title Like Water for Chocolate? I would love to know the origins of that pairing, because it is.... its brilliant.


But yo I don't get why more people don't fuck with Brent Rollins. I have complete and utter blind faith in his work. I even wrote like a 5 page paper on the man last year. I would love to see a Roots album with the almighty Rollins' hand involved. Let Gravillis do the layout and the art direction, but give Rollin's the cover. His resume is monumental I'm talking- Blackstar, Nia, Blazing Arrow, The Platform, Full Clip and maybe even The Ownerz, and more recently the Maroons shit was rediculous.

Brent Rollins makes covers better than the records... on classic records.



but Kenny G. is dope too.



peace,
TotalRequestloveLive

I'm a photojournalism major so TFA is and I think always will be my favorite album cover. Thats one of many pictures that inspired me to pick up a camera.

br is the shit. ug design king.

as far as the roots joint. its ill, colors and the type work well.

i see a flock of haters on here that dont know design.

jump on a major.

*cough cough rootslivesplash cough cough*

no offense b.

but ive seen worse.

and with that being said, what diference does it make? is the cover gonna keep you from buying the album? ...if so, then youll be the only loser who didnt buy a dope album because of the album cover.

i think you should have a more constructive reason to not like it, rather than judge it by it's cover sonny.

but thats just me.

as much as i love the covers of TFA, phrenology and tipping point

imo most roots' covers are on point, except the ones of DYWM and IH, i dont really feel these two.

speaking of the homegrown cover. i like the combination of the color and font so much. when i first saw it i was like "this would look awesome if its printed on a t-shirt!"

I agree with you about IH and DYWM i wasn't diggin those but I gotta admit they kinda fit the times.

hmm, go figure.

the design is dope.

on another note, i would love to see an ernie barnes painting on a roots cover (see "i want you" by marvin gaye).

and i mean "classic" in the true sense of the word, not the way y'all use it to describe albums by The Game and every other fly-by-night chart-topper

>not the way y'all use it to describe albums by The Game and every
>other fly-by-night chart-topper

lol ■

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y.

I love the covers. Nice work, Mrs. 15.

http://heavysoul.blogspot.com

this has probably been covered, but you cats not know about blue note or something?

i mean even a dummy knows tha...whatever.

.

its hot

how is that at ALL cliche? i've never seen a single hip hop album cover that looks like that. i'd say it's creative and simple.

- - - - -

"ask beavis, i get nothing but head" - big l

peace & love

?

im still waiting on "The Roots: Ride or Die"....




(that was a joketitle made when people were discussing what to call the album that was eventually titled phrenology).

.

Whatchu guys think about a cover conetst for the Home Grown?
That would be funny.
Quest could allow the words and graphics, that have to be on the cover.
You give every Okay-"Artist" a time period of 2weeks.
After that a selected jury could decide, which cover art is the winner.
Why Not?

Holla

Because the album drops in 11 days

>Why Not?

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that was eerie

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Aight and what do the okay-moderators say?

you are MR. FUCKING NEGATIVE ON THIS SITE

shit is old son...

frank can back up his negative posts AND he has earned his spot on this site to be mr. negative (luv ya frank)

you are so random...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=3&topic_id=79719&mesg_id=79719&page=#80132

oh well...

JESUS CHRIST ON A STICK ASCENDING TO HEAVEN.

.

it doesnt win any awards

do you think before you think ?

damn.

.

nov. 11th!

you get a pass ;)

(1)Phrenology
(2)Do You Want More?!!
(3)From The Ground Up

Da rezt of da album coverz & EPz seem pretty lame, but I'm a muzik lover & what'z on da record iz what I'm gettin' it for not what da cover lookz like.

This cover looks just like a classic ECM record.

For instance: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:mr5j8qtpbt04

Anyone who would use the word 'cliche' to describe it clearly has no fucking clue what they are talking about.

I think it is beautiful. Good work one five.

~Andrea

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