when he threatened to punch people from Seattle? or when he decided to say "I don't have time for this"?<P>And about the "established artists" is bullshit. How can anyone sit there and say the likes of Alkaholiks are not established? None of their albums have reached gold (one of the pre-requisites in "qoolquest"'s mind on what an "established artist" is) and they don't have 6 albums out (the other pre-requisite he mentioned). An ESTABLISHED ARTIST IN the industry is an artist with an album out on the shelves. Don't believe me? Ask someone in the industry.