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27890, Thought cleared it up, N/M
Posted by spirit, Thu Dec-16-99 01:55 AM
>>In many circles, "bitch" is used with <BR>>>the same amount of comfort as <BR>>>"nigga". I know I do it. <BR>>>I speak on "bitches" when I'm <BR>>>speaking to a group of female <BR>>>friends; <P>>Congratulations, you think it's okay and your <BR>>female friends think it's okay...a lot <BR>>of people do NOT think it's <BR>>okay and Thought himself said he <BR>>was "not the average savage that <BR>>curse queens". That word has way <BR>>too much negative history to get <BR>>tossed around in casual conversation like <BR>>it's an ordinary noun... <BR>>>To be so bothered by the use <BR>>>of "bitch" is a little absurd <BR>>>to me.<P>>To YOU! To a skinhead, saying "nigger" <BR>>is no big issue, "hey everybody <BR>>in this here hick town calls <BR>>blacks niggers...or monkeys...depnding on how they <BR>>feel" but what seems normal to <BR>>some people is offensive as hell <BR>>to others...the thing is, Thought expressed <BR>>in verse that he feels the <BR>>use of this word is wrong, <BR>>so it seems like he's on <BR>>the sister's side in being offended <BR>>at the use of the "b" <BR>>word to describe women (assuming that <BR>>queens is synonymous with women). <BR>> He was sharing his <BR>>>thoughts, and speaking freely. Let's not <BR>>>overlook Black Thought's past lyrics that <BR>>>big the ladies up!<P>>We're not. We're holding him to that <BR>>high standard. Positive peer pressure can <BR>>hopefully have some effect on cats <BR>>being more aware of their words...at <BR>>one point in our history "black" <BR>>was an insult, hell almost fighting <BR>>words. After the "black is beautiful" <BR>>movement, that died down...there was a <BR>>positive peer pressure towards appreciating the <BR>>black aesthetic...not sure how clear I'm <BR>>being here, but the point is, <BR>>hell yeah we should hld everyone, <BR>>not just artists, but everyone to <BR>>high standards...if we only get halfway <BR>>there, at least we elevated, nahmean? <BR>><BR>> Now he <BR>>>says bitch in an interview and <BR>>>he's irresponsible? <P>>Well, yeah, basically. One should think before <BR>>they speak in interviews. That's rule <BR>>number 1. <BR>>>I don't think he was irresponsible at <BR>>>all. If that's the case you <BR>>>all should have posted a long <BR>>>time ago about Thought's use of <BR>>>"nigga" in his verses.<P>>Well, you can't dictate what she should <BR>>post about....she may be opposed to <BR>>use of that word as well...I <BR>>am... <BR>>> Don't take <BR>>>it so personally. Always take a <BR>>>look at self first. How careful <BR>>>are YOU with certain words? <P>>That's the point. We should all be <BR>>careful with our words. Words have <BR>>power. words help us define our <BR>>existence. I think the first step <BR>>towards creating a better world is <BR>>verbalizing what you want that world <BR>>to be...now, if you want a <BR>>world of bitches, that's on you... <BR>><BR>>Peace, <BR>>Spirit <a href="http://amphibians.iuma.com" target="_blank">http://amphibians.iuma.com<;/a> <a href="http://infiniteloop.iuma.com" target="_blank">http://infiniteloop.iuma.com<;/a> DC hip-hop is on <BR>>the rise... <BR>>"High grade when I create beats/if I <BR>>don't get signed/I'ma be the most <BR>>dope bum that ever walked the <BR>>streets" - Aychell (HL, of <BR>>Khemystery) <BR>>"If it walks like a duck, quacks <BR>>like a duck, and looks like <BR>>a duck, it's probably a tool <BR>>of the conspiracy" - unknown <P><BR>Peace,<P>Spirit<BR><a href="http://amphibians.iuma.com" target="_blank">http://amphibians.iuma.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://infiniteloop.iuma.com" target="_blank">http://infiniteloop.iuma.com<;/a><BR>DC hip-hop is on the rise...<P>"High grade when I create beats/if I don't get signed/I'ma be the most dope bum that ever walked the streets" - <BR>Aychell (HL, of Khemystery)<P>"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a tool of the conspiracy" - unknown