Even Lloyd got a second single out :-/

Your Fellow Actor In This Drama Called Life,


"When you radiate, people gravitate..."---

"And then Jim Cavaziel will have had a chance to play two of the biggest fictional characters of all time."--- Devin Faraci on the recent Superman casting rumor

I believe "Stay Cool".

Your Fellow Actor In This Drama Called Life,


"When you radiate, people gravitate..."---

"And then Jim Cavaziel will have had a chance to play two of the biggest fictional characters of all time."--- Devin Faraci on the recent Superman casting rumor

no push. I saw the 12 inch at towers.

I forgot what the B-side was. I did notice that they didn't put accapellas on it though. BOO.

...detroit...what...

its on hiphopsite.com

anything but duck down, thats my least favorite track! the hook is horrible. i'd hope to see stay cool, or maybe star(but star isnt really a radio type song)

"Duck Down" would be a great 2nd single. It would kill in the clubs. I mean it might not be what you want to hear from The Roots but "Duck Down" can compete in a mainstream market with all this Lil' Jon stuff that's out there. The beat is sick!

duck down is the b-side to stay cool

Ugh, why the hell would they do that?

gotta "Stay Cool"...

luv that track...

and the one with Cody Chestnut...

thanks for the free drum ?uest...

Peace
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http://www.neogriots.com/vault/

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Your Fellow Actor In This Drama Called Life,


"When you radiate, people gravitate..."---

"And then Jim Cavaziel will have had a chance to play two of the biggest fictional characters of all time."--- Devin Faraci on the recent Superman casting rumor

Kimmel, or what?? I don't get it.

they did a 'star' video

Are u serious?!?! U GOT to be kiddin me! my goodness.. Where did u hear this?? Was it from that one poster who had that treatment? Cause that wasnt official..


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anyways...

if they get a second video or any push for Stay Cool or whatever the second single is.

i don't get it, i loved the album, i thought it was mad dope.

but commericially this probably their biggest failure because it got so much money put into it (remember the effin promo van). i wonder why this album didn't "tip"? i guess the masses really don't give a shit about lyrics (not that the beats were bad).

that's pretty good i would say.

promotion must be the problem, everybody i've ever played ttp for absolutely loves it. not that they then go out and buy it or anything but you know what i'm saying

I hope its duckdown but doubt it

Last year rap was at a all time low/too many ceo's picked up the mic,and the
just couldnt flow" DJJ

in virgin megastore new orleans yesterday, 9/1. i think duck down was the b-side

stay cool/duck down
i wish the radio edit of stay cool had "stay cool new york city y'all know the rules" since they can't say mothafucka.

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i played that and lean back at the same time to see how similar the beats really were to each other.

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How did it sound?

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i cant remember where but yesterday i heard someone say the edit for stay cool should be stay cool new york city yall know the rules. well i'm sure thats not it, the roots are from philly. but if they play it on the radio do they just blank out motha fuckas? or replace it with sumthing, i'd like to kno cuz if its blanked out it would just ruin the flow and coolnes of the song

only time they did "new york city" instead of mufuckaz was on Conan O'Brien, which is filmed in NYC, and at the J&R/BET taping in City Hall Park, which is also in NYC.

so much drama i can't even vent.....
something is coming...but....
the ball has been dropped so many times--
we will be lucky to "limp" to gold.
(can i get a witness shawn and label guy?)


just know one thing:

this is NOT our fault.
we did what was asked of us....
"keep it short"
"keep it simple"

check mate motherfuckers*


(to my coughcoughcoughlabelcoughcoughcough)

independent is the way after all this crap. (the day of the big label is shortly coming to an end, and I cant wait)

but not surprising, TTP is a seriously sick album too. The masses want ignorance I guess.

Atleast that's what the label thinks.

?uest aim a gun at the camara that's how black people sell records. Nothin' against 50 and them but do we all gotta look act and talk the same.

i feel for ya. when will the world/ labels wake up? and it was looking so good there at the beginning. it sucks they couldn't follow through.

Your Fellow Actor In This Drama Called Life,


"When you radiate, people gravitate..."---

"And then Jim Cavaziel will have had a chance to play two of the biggest fictional characters of all time."--- Devin Faraci on the recent Superman casting rumor

...we got your backs for what its worth....

big labels are effin wusses

i mean, DSN didn't take off like everyone hoped, so then they just give up on the LP? wtf?

i'm just amazed that TTP is going like kinda unnoticed (not in the pop-culture sense, but in the music scene sense), like i said before NO ONE listens to fuckin lyrics (not that music and beats are subpar or anything, but Riq drops some rhymes for the ages and no one seems to care)

that sucks

gets so much push and goes Plat(I think)but the Roots are getting any.....
TTP aint GOLD yet? WTF? if you one these muthafuckin' boards
choppin' it up n shit and rockin' a bootleg....FUCK YOU! SUPPORT THIS REAL SHIT! IT'S 12.99 @ BEST BUY YOU CHEAP DICKLESS FUCKS! BASTARDS!.........
go buy it if you haven't you vulture fucks....SUPPORT THE ARTIST YOU LIKE...MEANING GO SEE EM WHEN THEY IN TOWN, BUY THEY SHIT..how many folks are registered for this OKP
shit? huh? should have that time five , plus the folks who see
the Roots live.....it just baffles my fuckin' mind why this shit ain't sellin....it's fire....pussy on a triscuit.....BLAZIN'....bullshit..........
support this real shit or it will fuckin' disappear....
rant over....

"James Russel you husslin' sonnanuvahbitch!" .....
pussy on a triscuit.....
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jetblack y'all...

okayplayer = music/movie/multimedia snob, period....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/Accordian.html
DOOM TOON.....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/movement.html
TALKING BIRD...

gmail this man things....
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Audience has ADD, dunn...
And let's not get into another downloading debate, ok?

Your Fellow Actor In This Drama Called Life,


"When you radiate, people gravitate..."---

"And then Jim Cavaziel will have had a chance to play two of the biggest fictional characters of all time."--- Devin Faraci on the recent Superman casting rumor

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jetblack y'all...

okayplayer = music/movie/multimedia snob, period....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/Accordian.html
DOOM TOON.....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/movement.html
TALKING BIRD...

gmail this man things....
spikespeigel@gmail.com

... that can help control outbursts like that, Man. Relax a bit ...

Peace

halfthejob

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jetblack y'all...

okayplayer = music/movie/multimedia snob, period....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/Accordian.html
DOOM TOON.....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/movement.html
TALKING BIRD...

gmail this man things....
spikespeigel@gmail.com

co sign.


if all these so called okayplayers would buy albums these cats would have billboard top 50 (at least) but probably more like top 20 type #s. but again fuk majors and the sooner these cats realise the sooner they can make real moves. hell, q-tip is supposed to be on dreamworks. I can't find him on dreamworks or geffen's website. which means they must feel some sort of apprehension about his album. if he were indy he could drop it after setting up warehousing and distribution channels, and paying back studio time (recording and creating the master disk).


anyway on a lyter note nicolay's beat cd is sick. My man at work makes beats and I'm going to let him hold that to help him out.

and

when will the roots get a fucking break, lord?

We feel your frustration... labels always fuck the shit up, we're savy, we know its not the artist to blame.

Hopefully when the next single does drop, it will get more exposure and help push TTP over the top in sales. Its a crime that a great album like this has gone, for the most part, unnoticed in the mainstream.

when will motherfuckers learn that you guys are the shit??

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jetblack y'all...

okayplayer = music/movie/multimedia snob, period....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/Accordian.html
DOOM TOON.....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/movement.html
TALKING BIRD...

gmail this man things....
spikespeigel@gmail.com

its probably not you guy's fault. but, the fact remains is if you guys want $$$ you're either going to have to please your overwhelming white fan base (ala Black Eye Peas) or go indy. Sure, indy ain't going to make you guys millonaire, but with the right agreements and shit lined up indy will yield more royalty $$$$ and more freedom. Just, like beyonce's father hooked up w/ De La . That deal worked for both parties (this is all my opinion mind u) because dude wasn't trying to spend a lot of $$$ on a act, and De La needed a label foundation to distribute their albums for AOI records.

So, satisfy your contract and draw up a plan for creating your own label. I say this time and time again. Cats like

Q-tip
The Roots
Talib Kweli
Common
Mos Def
dead prez
De La Soul
etc should not be on a major. All of these acts and cats like them (Nas, Saigon, J-Live, Hiero, Kanye(maybe)) should be indy. Even if you disregard the money issue or the artistic freedom no one can deny that majors just don't know how to market cats like this. It's like what Ye said in xxl. The majors are like they said in kill bill vol. II "Superman views regular people as weak lame characters." That's how the majors see cats that ain't rappin' about killing niggas and calling black women out their name. So, if you guys ( the aforementioned list of my fav artists) want to keep getting punk'd by these majors go right ahead. Without a drastic change to your art/sound units will not be sold. Whether the records are sold indy or major or out the trunk of a car as long as you guys respective fan bases know that the product exists we will attempt to buy.


Make it happen captn.

Yeah, ?uest you guys just need to up your jerseys and gunplay raps, down the live band ish, trade Hub for Jermaine Dupri, and then you'll sell albums (sike!). STICK TO THE SCRIPT! YOU GUYS AIN'T STARVIN', AND THE FANS LOVE YOUR MUSIC...Each album a little more. don't dumb it down. don't point the gun at the camera either.

"I'm tired of chasing my dreams. I'm just going to find out where they're going, and hook up with them later" ~Mitch Hedberg

y'all should "force" these label niggas to get their shit together. ask the label why they will spend hella dough on an "artist" that is straight boo boo and y'all can't get no respect in that bitch. FUCK IT!!! Get me a job at the label and we'll make some shit pop off.

Or people will definately forget about da album. Da only reason why many haven't picked up "Tipping Point" iz becauze da few dat did pick up "Phrenology" are scarred of it being anotha one. Even though da majority can pre-listen to albumz at different storez before buyin' it, da blind micez are waitin' on da radio & club DJz to get behind anotha song frum da album first before copin' it. One thang dat pisses me off iz when people say "iz da album good, I've only heard one song off of da album". I tell 'em "well of courze you only heard one or two songs, da radio aint gonna play da entire phuckin' album for you"!

Your Fellow Actor In This Drama Called Life,


"When you radiate, people gravitate..."---

"And then Jim Cavaziel will have had a chance to play two of the biggest fictional characters of all time."--- Devin Faraci on the recent Superman casting rumor

but anyway, but just ask .

THE LESSONDARY.
TM, E, H, CG, J, BB, & E.

& (updated September 5th)

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jetblack y'all...

okayplayer = music/movie/multimedia snob, period....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/Accordian.html
DOOM TOON.....

http://www.geocities.com/jtblq/movement.html
TALKING BIRD...

gmail this man things....
spikespeigel@gmail.com

That's why everyone who supports these guys should be calling and harrassing their radio PD or local DJ and be demanding songs be played, I know I do.

>That's why everyone who supports these guys should be
>calling and harrassing their radio PD or local DJ and be
>demanding songs be played, I know I do.

I'm like one of da few outta of a couple of thousand in my town who callz da radio station ta request a real hip hop song & they automaticly know dat it'z me or think I put somebody up to request a underground rap song. Da sad part about it iz half of dem I know dat they listen to underground hip hop & will tell me they do but will say, sorry but they don't have it in their computer playlist. It getz to da point when I do call in now they almost sound like they're tired of katz requestin' good muzik or somethang.

Since he waz complainin' dat da album contained a few slight mistakez dat were noticiable to him but not to da listenerz, he might be more worried about gettin' dat album re-issued/remastered first before puttin' out da next single. Even though personally I think thoze two thingz shouldn't effect da otha except da order of priority to who'z eye Questo'z or Geffen. All I know iz both of dem betta not sit on their azzez too long on gettin' behind a new song out there to da radio stationz. The Roots can do sum under da table payola to certain key stationz across da country to let da label know dat da album still needz dat push.

Ever since I bought the cd, I've been debating with myself and others what the second single should be and I say "Stay Cool" should be it. I love the sampling, it always makes me wanna hear the De La jawn. But, it's been a couple months and I'm getting worried. Why can't the Roots get as much if not more respect (read: airplay)than these cookie-cutter, no flow havin', wack ass so- called MC's?????!!!!!