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21504, Like Water For Chocolate ?uestions
Posted by khimes, Thu Sep-14-00 03:06 AM
I know this is kinda old, but I been listening to Common a lot more these days, and it's got me wondering. When Voodoo first came out, and even to this day, we had a lot of behind the scenes information. Jam sessions, ideas, funny stories, etc. We didn't have half of that for LWFC. I read the archives and still didn't find too many rare tidbits. So, my question is, what were some of the unique experiences during the making of LWFC? Examples...

1. Jam sessions with other artists
2. Other MCs coming through to laugh, rhyme, etc.
3. SOngs that never made the final cut

"Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix
21505, Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
Posted by qoolquest, Thu Sep-14-00 04:34 AM
hmmm com's album was more sacrifice for me than anything. enjoyed it nevertheless.....

-missed mtv awards at the metro (99) to spend the night at the studio to work on a song that didn't make it ("day in the life" our tribute to amerikkka's most wanted's "what they hittin' foe?"......i hope that's the title "fucking around in a crap game, niggas think i'm soft, because i'm in a rap game. cause i don't hang out as much, bang out dope cuts, standing onstage and i'm grabbin my nuts....")

-working on the definitive "chicago" song at jay dee's crib in december of '98 only to get snowed in for 3 days in 5 feet of snow. that was the same week that com kept buggin me about this beat jay had tin which he "thought had potential":
"what do you think?"
hmmm i dunno. pretty non descript for jay dee. don't even sound like him.
"but i think it sounds cold"
man, i dunno, you prepared to make no loot?
"how you figure?"
he's damn near scratching the whole record on the chorus, no way in hell cats gonna fall for this song.

-made me master and sequence his record on my birthday. a 16 hour process.









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the answer to magnolia is 82.
21506, RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
Posted by Brownsugar, Thu Sep-14-00 05:06 AM
I gotta go buy that one, dear!!!:-):-):-)!!!
21507, you don't have lwfc? n/m
Posted by lazyboi, Fri Sep-15-00 01:13 AM
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i can't believe he/she said that shit:

"i'll take a picture of myself naked and put it on the okp directory page"
-lay z boi

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21508, RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
Posted by khimes, Thu Sep-14-00 08:25 AM
What are some of the more innovative tricks or techniques you learned or perfected or witnessed during LWFC? During Voodoo I remember you talking about the...

-patented trick you do with the rhodes
-Charlie Hunter playing guitar AND bass AT THE SAME TIME (by the way, what is the most brilliant thing you've seen Charlie play with by himself?)
-D doing background singing 101
-D morphing through multiple styles on one song (The Line)
-etcetera

Were there a lot of highlights like that during Com's album making??

"Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix
21509, magic moments
Posted by qoolquest, Fri Sep-15-00 12:51 AM
well, alot of "firsts" were done with d, so by the time we were doing "chocolate" record we were way into the last stages of voodoo. so by this point com's record was somewhat of a breather from the tense process of recording d's record (whom by that point, we was feeling mad heat for not delivering a record to the label.). so the most i could say was there was just a family vibe going on. lot of brotherhood (and sisterhood) bonding.

listen to when roy first does his horn jawn in "coldblooded", you can hear us howl in amazement.

we also did that on "time traveling" (which i severely edited from it's original 12 minunte version)

but alot of magic occured off the 2 inch tape. namely watching jay make beats from scratch.






september is paul thomas anderson endorsement month:

"feel feel feel feel feel.......feel my heeee--ee-eeeeat!"
-dirk digler

the answer to magnolia is 82.
21510, They Still Have Soul...
Posted by khimes, Fri Sep-15-00 03:16 AM
How has the process been for the Soultronics live album? I saw you post about making sure the liner notes are tight. I always loved the liner notes from TFA. Please, on the live album, make sure you include a list of who plays what for the entire band. Unfortunately, I have yet to see D live, so I wouldn't know.

"Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix
21511, RE: They Still Have Soul...
Posted by Brownsugar, Fri Sep-15-00 05:20 AM
>How has the process been for
>the Soultronics live album? I
>saw you post about making
>sure the liner notes are
>tight. I always loved the
>liner notes from TFA. Please,
>on the live album, make
>sure you include a list
>of who plays what for
>the entire band. Unfortunately, I
>have yet to see D
>live, so I wouldn't know.
>
>
>"Have you ever been to Electric
>Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix



21512, 3 More ?uestions...
Posted by khimes, Sat Sep-16-00 07:17 AM
1. What were the firsts on Voodoo?
2. Will you include some of the unreleased material on the live album?
3. How's your new project going?

"Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix
21513, RE: 3 More ?uestions...
Posted by qoolquest, Mon Sep-18-00 08:29 PM
>1. What were the firsts on
>Voodoo?


too many to name. just read my "voodoo" record review in the "???" section of the roots. that pretty much sums it up.


>2. Will you include some of
>the unreleased material on the
>live album?
>3. How's your new project going?
>
>
>"Have you ever been to Electric
>Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix


tribe quote:
"when i see that nigga, imma beat the shit outta him"
-guess who over you know what?


september is paul thomas anderson endorsement month:

"feel feel feel feel feel.......feel my heeee--ee-eeeeat!"
-dirk digler

the answer to magnolia is 82.
21514, That's Why I Asked...
Posted by khimes, Tue Sep-19-00 05:34 AM
Trust me. I walk around with a printed copy of that review in my notebook to every class I go to. I read all the archives at least 3 times. I read every D'Angelo article I have at least twice a month, in depthly. Only one part keeps making me ask these questions. During the notes for "The Root", "Spanish Joint", "Feel Like Makin Love", and "Greatdayndamornin", it says too many technical things to go into. Then you tell us something like Charlie Hunter played the bass and the guitar at the smae time!! How do you expect us not to still be curious? Please whet our appetite, because I know I ain't the only one who wants to know some inside info. It's like when you wrote about you and D tryin to outPrince each other (I wonder who won?). Once you told some of the secrets, I went out and bought PARADE. I heard Brown Mark's baseline on "I Wonder U" (ill!), I heard him spell p-u-s-s-y on "New Position" ("...I want to P Ur S-S-Y" or something of the sort). I also heard the solo on "Mountains". Knowing the secrets makes you understand the music a little more. Just know that I have a hunger for your music like you have for that of Prince. Please, help a little Black boy out!! Even if you only go into 1 thing in great detail, I'll be happy. Puh-leeeeeease!!

p.s. "Do U Lie?" is my fave song right now!

"Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix
21515, that hurts
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Sep-15-00 03:19 AM
>we also did that on "time
>traveling" (which i severely edited
>from it's original 12 minunte
>version)


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Silly rhyme in my head for the moment:
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21516, If You Don't Mind, ?uest...
Posted by khimes, Mon Sep-18-00 01:52 PM
I responded back twice. There's some new questions, only 3 or 4, and I'd like to save this, so cold you please complete it for me. Then I'll ask to have it archived.

"Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix
21517, RE: magic moments
Posted by thebigfunk, Mon Sep-18-00 04:00 PM

>we also did that on "time
>traveling" (which i severely edited
>from it's original 12 minunte
>version)

12 minutes of time traveling? Man... the heat emanating from that joint must have been severe. Seriously though... the beat is so intense. Easily one of my fav joints on the album... in fact, songs 1-5, to me, are the best sequence. From sweet travelin, to the absolutely jawdropping 'heat', to the horn/funk madness of 'cold blooded' to the rick james bass line of 'dooinit' to the absolutely brilliant caldwell cut-up on the light... all the beats are so solid, lyrics all phenomenal. I have yet to get tired of hearing those tracks, ever. Period.

-thebigfunk

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21518, RE: magic moments
Posted by BrainChild, Tue Sep-19-00 02:33 PM
having heard Bobby Caldwell's "The Light", I no longer can give Jay Dee the extensive props that I had in the past...

he didn't chop up that sample nearly as much as I was led to believe... the chorus is taken straight from one of the verses... the music itself is just the chorus filtered and looped for about 4 bars...

add a few scratches here and there.. and voila...

hmm.. maybe I should try and recreate the song like I did with "Dooinit"

--me--
Viva La A Tribe Called Quest!
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21519, RE: magic moments
Posted by BrainChild, Tue Sep-19-00 02:34 PM
>having heard Bobby Caldwell's "The Light",

doh.. that should read "Open Your Eyes" not "The Light"

my bad

--me--
Viva La A Tribe Called Quest!
"Help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, Muhammad!" -- Midnight Marauders
21520, HUGE favor...
Posted by khimes, Thu Sep-14-00 10:39 AM
I know I be asking a lot of you, because damn near every post I've made has been indirectly directed to you. But, whatever happened to the "T.H.E.M." post? I looked everywhere. If it hasn't been deleted yet and you could tell me where to go for that, I'd appreciate it. Or give us the current status of "T.H.E.M."

Oh yeah, thanks big guy! You finally responded to me. I'm gonna save this once it's finished!

Read the "D'Angelo and his finicky recording taste" post, ?uest!!!!!!!

"Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix
21521, from what i remember
Posted by guest, Fri Sep-15-00 12:55 PM
dream hampton convinced ?uest to stay with soulquarians, rather than THEM, or something else

sh:ock
21522, RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
Posted by guest, Fri Sep-15-00 12:51 PM

>com kept buggin me about
>this beat jay had tin
>which he "thought had potential":
>
>"what do you think?"
>hmmm i dunno. pretty non descript
>for jay dee. don't even
>sound like him.
>"but i think it sounds cold"
>
>man, i dunno, you prepared to
>make no loot?
>"how you figure?"
>he's damn near scratching the whole
>record on the chorus, no
>way in hell cats gonna
>fall for this song.

hehehe
glad that you came round, quest

sh:ockisabrightandshiningstar



21523, What was that track
Posted by guest, Tue Sep-19-00 03:09 PM
That came on as a bridge right before thelonius??



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21524, RE: Like Water For Chocolate ?uestions
Posted by guest, Thu Sep-14-00 11:55 PM
i want to now that too





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