I heard some rumors about an alleged track dissing Common. I was skeptical. Well, a friend on Instant Messenger hit me with the track. And they didn't call out names, but it was obvious who they were talking about. I was disgusted. Reason being, they were supposedly upset about something Com said at a show in TX in like 96 where UGK opened up for him. Now, why wait until Com has a bigger name? Possibly to make a bigger name for yourself?? Man, that's wack.

The track is by Middle Fingaz featuring Bun B and it's called 'No Smiles' or 'Ain't No Games' or something if you want to download it (because I sure as hell wouldn't buy some garbage like this).

Any thoughts on this? I hate to be one to incite stuff like this but I just wanted some thoughts from the okaypeeps on this.

And I don't even know if this track is old news or what so if I'm late or something, please don't be too hard on me:-)
________________________________________
Peace to each and every one of you bitch ass suckers.

I'm going to marry Tyra Banks.

Austin appears in this thread courtesy of Grandma.

"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

Your signature is VERY thought provoking! There is nothing like some good a-- food for thought.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________
For other Blacks the question of identity is only now being solved by the realizaiton of those things that are their's...The words may be English, but the way a Blacks put them together and the meaning that he gives them creates a new language...

He has another language too, and that language is RHYTHM... It is obvious in musice but is expressed in the way he walks and the way he talks...

There is a music and rhythm to the way he dresses and the way he cooks....

"SOUL" is how things peculiarly Black are recognized by Black men in America...

"SOUL" becomes even more precious when it is remembered that the white man in America systematically tried to destroy every vestige of racial identity through slavery and slavery's lttle brother, segregaton.

It is a testament to the power of "SOUL" that it not only SURVIVED but THRIVED.

Julius Lester

I gotta read this book called Jazz Revolution by Kathy J. Ogren.

It pretty much explained the history of Jazz and the times during its rise...i was thinking throughout the period of reading it that if I were to replace the word Jazz, with "hip-hop" i would have been reading the EXACT same book.

You should also, if you havent seen it already, buy the Ken Burns' "Jazz" documentary. It's a 10 episode project, with the assistance of Wynton Marsalis, outlining jass from the civil war to present. Though he gave Miles and Coltrane less the attention they deserved, the entire piece is a must see. I rushed home every night and made sure the channel was on PBS an hour before the show just so I wouldn't miss it. Very empowering and educational. If you want to learn more, go to www.pbs.org/jazz. The site even has an interactive program so you can make your own jass compilation.


*Bask in your blackness. You r Beauty. You r strong* Kysla

"Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to dance." -Carl Sandburg


http://members.blackplanet.com/kysla

And they
>didn't call out names, but
>it was obvious who they
>were talking about.

oh really?

1st verse

"Aint no sense for common to flex/but now he know aint no comin back to tx"

2nd verse

"Aint no thang, aint no games bein played/common sense sound like a bitch that likes to sip lemonade"

"I got niggas on all sides that come from the south/so common fuck what you talkin about, cause nigga aint no games" (notice a trend here?)

4th cat comes in

"aint no love, no smiles, we aint no fuckin lames/I seen this kufi wearin bitch that put salt in his game/you used to love her/till cube fucked her and she moved down south/now we constantly got our dick in her mouth

the cat from ugk didnt rhyme about com, it was these other cats called middle fingaz

its one of the worst songs Ive heard in my soon to be 3 years down south, and trust me Ive heard some horrible stuff. Like that "we got our dick in her mouth" line, did they not hear the great ending that the song was about hip-hop? Or do they just wanna brag THAT much

song is trash

com need not even bother making a comeback record

this is like if immature woulda made a comeback record to "mcs be insecure/like them lil' ho niggas immature wearin bobs"

>bein played/common sense sound like
>a bitch that likes to
>sip lemonade"

lemonade was a popular drink and it still is!

<unless 'sip lemonade' is the new euphemism for fellatio...>

|peace.|mosaic|aim:treisdeuce|cruciverbalist|wst.phx|keepitsurreal|
--muddy.angel.syntactics--point.blank.bullettime--sleight.of.hand--

>its one of the worst songs
>Ive heard in my soon
>to be 3 years down
>south, and trust me Ive
>heard some horrible stuff.
>Like that "we got our
>dick in her mouth" line,
>did they not hear the
>great ending that the song
>was about hip-hop? Or do
>they just wanna brag THAT
>much

Yeah, that just pales in comparison to the brillant, "I heard a hoe say you her favorite rapper/so I had to slap her".

I just paid attention to Bun B's verse because I absolutely couldn't stand the other folks on the song. But I do remember those lines now that you bring them up.

But I agree with you. This isn't even worth acknowledgment from Com. In my eyes, they played themselves by making such a piece of trash record in the first place.

If Com is reading this, from a long time fan, ignore this piece of trash. It's obvious they're just trying to get some recognition off somebody with a bigger name.
________________________________________
Peace to each and every one of you bitch ass suckers.

I'm going to marry Tyra Banks.

Austin appears in this thread courtesy of Grandma.

>the cat from ugk didnt rhyme
>about com, it was these
>other cats called middle fingaz
>com need not even bother making
>a comeback record

i don't even know if he knows this song existed.

what is title?

we might have to bring the bitch outta someone again.

"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

Name of the song is "No Smiles". Bun B and Middl Fingaz (or some kind of fucked up spelling).

Please rip these motherfuckas a new one.

>we might have to bring the
>bitch outta someone again.

he didnt' dis you did he. they brought the shanaynay out of you i see.

opio

From what Ive heard the bitch in yoo may have been roots produced or in some way affiliated/encouraged (I read that there was only one verse until they encouraged him to do 2 more)

probly will be soulquarian produced is what i think was meant

Man, I feel what you're saying and I understand that shit like this shouldn't just be ignored but I think by acknowledging it, you're giving in to them.

I honestly hope Com and ya'll ignore this.

Who cares what 'they' say? Com's a bitch for not responding. I can see it now. Honestly, who gives a fuck besides them? I know I'd have even MORE respect for Com than I do now if he just let it pass.

'Fuck bein hard, Posdnuous is complicated'
- you know who
________________________________________
Peace to each and every one of you bitch ass suckers.

I'm going to marry Tyra Banks.

Austin appears in this thread courtesy of Grandma.

Reason being, they were
>supposedly upset about something Com
>said at a show in
>TX in like 96 where
>UGK opened up for him.

I seriously doubt Common (in 96 mind you) would be HEADLINING a show in Texas with UGK as openers. What I heard was that Com called Texas folk ignorant for sipping syrup. Well, if that's the case, Com deserves every verbal lashing he gets. All biases aside, if you think Bun B ain't got it in him to rip damn near any MC...

>Now, why wait until Com
>has a bigger name? Possibly
>to make a bigger name
>for yourself?? Man, that's wack.

Sure, UGK has to use Common to make a name for themselves. Really now.

You still cool peoples, Austin. BTW, I copped that "entroducing" on the strength of you. Good looking out.

a spitkicker freestyle line did go "wack mcs, they be sippin on some syrup" or somethin like that. But it wasnt the cat from ugk talking about him

What
>I heard was that Com
>called Texas folk ignorant for
>sipping syrup. Well, if
>that's the case, Com deserves
>every verbal lashing he gets.

he said 'wack mcs be sipping on syrup' - didn't DJ Screw die from a combination of sizurp and something else?


> All biases aside, if
>you think Bun B ain't
>got it in him to
>rip damn near any MC...

Ummmm, he's nice...but......


*****************************************************************
"I wanna give a shout out...to funkmaster flex and all the dj's across the world. I want to give a shout out to my n***a luke, I wanna give a shout out to my n***a suge knight,...to my n***a dr. dre, snoop dogg. I wanna give a shout out to..umm...ummm...ummm what's them n***as? Outkast!? I wanna give a shout out to ummmm them crazy n***as... that...in parts of the world that I never been to. I wanna give a shout out...to the eskimos! I wanna give a shout out to the submarines...I wanna give a shout out to th...uh the army navy airforce marines! Knowuhmsayin? Y'all playin my music...in the submarines, in the boats! Knowuhmsayin?!? Play that sh*t! Youknowuhmsayin?!? Called travelin' music bustin yo ass style! Yo Big Baby Jesus youknowhumsayin?!? One looove! I give a shout out to all the women! I give a shout out to alll the babies, all the munchkins all across the world playin hopscotch!! I give a shout out to all the schoolteachers! I give a shout out to uhhhhm....ummmm...myself!" - ODB "I Can't Wait"

>
>What
>>I heard was that Com
>>called Texas folk ignorant for
>>sipping syrup. Well, if
>>that's the case, Com deserves
>>every verbal lashing he gets.
>
>he said 'wack mcs be sipping
>on syrup' - didn't DJ
>Screw die from a combination
>of sizurp and something else?
>
>
>
>> All biases aside, if
>>you think Bun B ain't
>>got it in him to
>>rip damn near any MC...
>
>Ummmm, he's nice...but......
>

did die from that and I think it's beyond ignorant for anyone to sip on that bullshit... never really was too crazy about UGK to begin with...

>What
>I heard was that Com
>called Texas folk ignorant for
>sipping syrup. Well, if
>that's the case, Com deserves
>every verbal lashing he gets.

?!??!???!?!

Sipping on syrup IS ignorant. Are you defending that practice? Sipping syrup is unhealthy and there is some evidence that it might have led to Screw's death. Sipping on syrup is a practice that SHOULD be condemned (NOTE: Only a minority of folks in the HUGE state of TX sip syrup, but for those who do, that shit is stupid, I'm here to tell you, just like any other misuse of a drug is stupid...cough syrup is designed to suppress coughing, not to get high...isn't that common sense? (pun intended))

> All biases aside, if
>you think Bun B ain't
>got it in him to
>rip damn near any MC...

Bun B is very dope and I'm a fan, but Com would kill him.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

"I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me/While I ripped the flow/they lip synched the show hopelessly" Juice - "Sincerely"

"If y'all n----s don't feel me, then I'll blame it on your parents" - Tash "Smokefest"

>Sipping on syrup IS ignorant. Are
>you defending that practice?

No, I'm not. But if Com (allegedly) called EVERYBODY from Texas stupid for sipping syrup, he deserves to get got.


>> All biases aside, if
>>you think Bun B ain't
>>got it in him to
>>rip damn near any MC...
>
>Bun B is very dope and
>I'm a fan, but Com
>would kill him.
>

Thinking about it, I don't know. Com might surprise me, but on the here and now, I'm going with Texas' finest.

i never heard anything about the com/ugk thing...however, being that i am from texas (in philly now) and common is my favorite emcee...i'd be more than disappointed to hear him say EVERYONE from texas is ignorant. i know i'm not and i dont mess with cough syrup, weed, or get drunk (which com has done 2 of the 3)...i think it's all ignorant, but to each is their own.

here we have a case of people's mouths running away with them. No one said Common called EVERYONE from Texas ignorant, it was alledged and I believe that he was simply misquoted. I've heard the "wack MC's be sippin on syrup" line, but never has it progressed to everyone in Texas.

"the malice I use is comparable to a warlock." - Murdoc

"I never said that battlin me, would be impossible
I just think it's highly motherfuckin improbable
You talkin to a nigga that can split molecules
to subatomic particles, strong enough to stop a bull
Body-slam two oxes and drop a mule
Urinatin rocket fuel" - Canibus

>
>>Sipping on syrup IS ignorant. Are
>>you defending that practice?
>
>No, I'm not. But if
>Com (allegedly) called EVERYBODY from
>Texas stupid for sipping syrup,
>he deserves to get got.

Cuz, one of Com's best friends is Erykah, straight outta Dallas. Do you REALLY think he would call everyone out of Texas ignorant? Don't you think knowing Erykah alone shows him the wide variety of folks in TX? As I understand it, Com's words were "wack emcees, sipping on syrup" or something like that, which is basically a dis to UGKz and 3-6 NOT to Texas as a whole. They responded. Now maybe Com will respond back...we'll see. But I don't think Com would dis a whole state that one of his best friends is from.

>Thinking about it, I don't know.
> Com might surprise me,
>but on the here and
>now, I'm going with Texas'
>finest.

What battle rap has Bun written that compares to "The Bitch in Yoo"? Bun has ill lyrics, but I haven't heard him spit ill BATTLE lyrics. writing dope battle rhymes is a very specific skill that is different from writing dope verses in general.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

"I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me/While I ripped the flow/they lip synched the show hopelessly" Juice - "Sincerely"

"If y'all n----s don't feel me, then I'll blame it on your parents" - Tash "Smokefest"

"you need to walk straight master your high
son you don't know what's passing you by..."

-black thought's "water" the anti-sizurp theme.




"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

ignorance= a bad thing?


..peace

act like they on summin new.
syrup been around a long ass time in philly
red purple yellow(snot) and with xanax or percs its called pancakes and syrup!
water shots
cocktails
drink
whateva and that shit will have you sleep walkin and to make a song bout that shit is pure.......Texan like.

to motherfuckers who been seeing that shit it aint cute......syrup been around in philly since i was like 6!

"jay street uh huh uh huh "- Cartel



Nuwb or "blackness" is supreme balance before the chaos was introduced. It was a state of sound, right reasoning. That darkness was triple darkness, which is what you would call the absence of consciousness, or the state of being awoke. In actuality, the dream state is more real and peaceful than the chaos you meet once you are awake. A form of spiritual darkness responsible for the spark that turned on the light that is the life and intellect of all who breathe and think.
When the light is turned on again, the chaos begins. The differentiation begins. The separation begins. The rights and the wrongs, the goodness and the badness; the supreme balance is broken and the ego begins to verse the "I."

I guess they didn't learn from the whole Cube thing that Common ain't to be fucked with. Just let Com get another white label dis record out there directed toward UGK and see a lopsided competition. C'mon now. "Likes to sip lemonade?" I'm saying if you got a little beef with an emcee that is better than you, call 'em up and talk it out. Don't try and bring it to the mic.

-------------
.:dee ph!:.
Originator of the following:
1) Quote Months 2) Appreciation Posts
3) Ask Any Okayplayer Anything (the post that was too big to archive)

(aol/aim: Dee Phunk)
Visit my pimp-ish side:
http://members.blackplanet.com/DeePhunk_NYC/

5 Deadly Venom Spitters - No One Is Safe
Niggaz huff and they puff but they can't handle us. (c) L-Boogie

"You look like my boy Paco!"
-- Planet Asia (corner of W. 25th & 7th Ave)

...cancun...cancun...cancun...cancun...cancun...

I think Com should respond to this. They definetly take it to a personal level.

This should be good.

Who is the female that Cube supposedly fucked?

HIP-HOP!! He is personifying HIP-HOP as a woman.




"A child is born with a heart of gold
But the ways of the world makes his heart turn cold."

-Earth, Wind and Fire.

******the sigs to end all sigs******

"You hold my heart like the night does the stars.I love you."

I love you too!!!!

5 Deadly Venom Spitters - No One is Safe
Especially your stupid ass, bee-otch!!!!

"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

Whatever, who the hell is that cat dissing him anyways? Who cares, why the hell should Common waste his time dissing some cat who no one cares about or really knows about. If UGK put out a complete diss song to Common, than it's another story. Peace.

I know he's a deity here, but....


BunB will eat Commons ass alive. I personally hope there is a return record...


"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

on the real....i'd love to see common rip it...just for good ol' laughs

peace
Kyle

I walk the night in rhymin armor, bomb a nigga like a winter coat
Have him on Death Row searchin for an Interscope
Yet I sparkle like Irene Cara
Symbolize dope, like sirens do terror
Mariel just had a baby someone else decapitated
Flashbacks of past raps make me so glad I made it
Players is gettin traded
I drop a gem off, them who's style is jaded
My juice is grated
Shit is so bangin niggaz say it's gang related
On philosopher's rink of thought, I've skated with precision
Crews is gettin split like decisions
Com will let it ride in collision
Vision like Colleco or tele, I battle stars in stellar...
Regions, my thought scheme was my like my offspring
Now, it's teethin
My reason of rhyme applies to season and time
Season of mind , body and regions divine
In mom's cookouts, I'm leavin the swine
Verbal vegeterian, squashed beef with Ice Cube
Came in this rap life nude
Now I'm fully clothed with flows
You tricks can't hide behind expensive cars and clothes
Old niggaz I expose like Luke does hoes in videos
With classic material, imperial and rugged like
Got mag, but my slugs a mic
You fake like a smile, like a hug, I'm tight
Skip ladies, this is rip a muthafucka night
Oracle arouse, niggaz don't even run for cover right
Downtown interracial lovers hold hands
I breathe heavy like an old man, with a cold can of Old Style
Hold a Stone Isle profile
Mix between Malcolm X and Sef when I go wild
Hold mics like a second nut until the second comin
Hummin comin towards you with power like forest do
Hip hop, you my bitch and like a Ford, I'm Explorin you
So, wack niggaz be cool, with them, I stay cordial
Flowin room temperature, cats is presumed miniature
Like golf. Soft like Tiger Woods
And real nigga angles I've stood with ways that's geometric
Don't need to rob banks with dike broads to Set it
I levitate to the occasion, lounge like a lyricist
Rhyme wise, you a rest haven
You sat by the door spooked like I was Wes Craven
You need to do more deletin and less savin
A praise in hell, raisin heaven
Like the bill on my pager leavens
What you should have known from day one
You will on day seven

i think everyone here knows where that shit from
peace man woMAN child

should Com battle Bun B w/ this verse, he will lose.

is it hot? of course. Is it next level, of course.

but what it is not is lowest common denominator, the shit is complex, and would fly right over the head of many folks in the audience...sorry if thats not in line w/ your way of thinking but if this was what most audiences wanted to hear, then guess what?

most emcees would be rapping this way.


cant argue w/ #'s....



rap this verse in front of the typical hip hop "You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

UHHHH, Sir Binlahab please explain your reasons for coming to such conclusions, Some of us know of Common's credentials but Bun B........... please enlighten us.


______________________

Creased up like linen, with a soft spot for small women, green trees and Girbaud denim.

Now there goes a man with integrity.

>I know he's a deity here,
>but....
>
>
>BunB will eat Commons ass alive.
>I personally hope there is
>a return record...

...at best.

They messed up by making this record if Com does decide to retaliate. It was a sloppy record and Com could disect them and break them down in under three minutes.

And I'm talking Just Com here. Bun B pulled a bitch move by letting his whole crew get on a track and dis Com when it's just him that has beef. What would happen if Com got in the studio with his whole crew?

UGK would get ripped, not only by Com, but (potentially) by Black Thought, Mos Def, and Talib.

Again, if Com does respond, they'll realize that this was a mistake on their part.
________________________________________
Peace to each and every one of you bitch ass suckers.

I'm going to marry Tyra Banks.

Austin appears in this thread courtesy of Grandma.

get outta wack ass general and lets discuss bun b vs. com

I'll try to explain it in the littlle time I ahve but here is the jist:

Bun is 'realer' than Common.

Com is immensely talented, I'm not questioning that. but the bottom line is that, lyrically, Bun can hang w/ some of the best emcees out there (not on Mos level, maybe Del's...)

should the avergae listener compare, oh....'Pocket Fulla Stones' to 'Ghetto Heaven' I think they would come away, believing that Bun speaks more to their everyday existence.

not to mention, Bun seems like he has more heart. I dont think Com would knock a motherfucker out, or forbid someone from performing in their hometown, but....you'd ahve to think twice before fucking w/ Bun on that level...

I'll go find some lyrics, and we can compare and contrast all day.


"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

>not to mention, Bun seems like
>he has more heart. I
>dont think Com would knock
>a motherfucker out

Not to go into all the rumors I have heard about Com, but I think he would knock somebody out if provoked enough.

> or forbid
>someone from performing in their
>hometown, but....you'd ahve to think
>twice before fucking w/ Bun
>on that level...

Bun is Port Arthur TX. I'm sure he has a lot of people in H-Town. But could he really "forbid" COm from performing in H-Town.

(because, in all honesty, stopping someone from performing in Port Arthur wouldn't hurt their touring schedule very much)

>I'll go find some lyrics, and
>we can compare and contrast
>all day.

If you're looking for lyrics, find battle-related lyrics, because that's all that's gonna matter in a battle.

Based on "The Bitch in Yoo" alone, I think very few cats are seeing Com when it comes to writing battle songs.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

"I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me/While I ripped the flow/they lip synched the show hopelessly" Juice - "Sincerely"

"If y'all n----s don't feel me, then I'll blame it on your parents" - Tash "Smokefest"

it's good, but damn yall acting like it was "no vasaline" or something.

i don't know who would win in a battle, but based on biases on this site and an obvious ingnorance of what bun-b can do, this isn't even worth debating.

fuck it.

>it's good, but damn yall acting
>like it was "no vasaline"
>or something.
>
>i don't know who would win
>in a battle, but based
>on biases on this site
>and an obvious ingnorance of
>what bun-b can do, this
>isn't even worth debating.
>
>fuck it.

Dude, I'm from the South. I respect UGKz. I think Bun B is dope. But it ain't about who's dope, it's about who writes more battle verses. And of all the UGKz material I have heard, I can't recall Bun spitting anything I would call an 'ill battle rhyme'. Even on the song at issue, Bun is spitting ill lines, but his battle lines...shrug. This is coming from a native Southerner who has been battling on stages and street corners since 93. I have heard Com's battle material and it is pretty good. I haven't heard any battle rhymes from Bun. No one on here is able to quote any battle rhymes from Bun, including his fans on here. So...I would have to vote for Com based on what I *do* know.

Personally, I think Saafir would rip both of them, based on the Hiero/Hobo battle. Ha...

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/miscellaneous_flux.shtml (Flux's "Sad Sunshine" is currently an editor's pick at http://www.washingtonpost.com/mp3)

can u have doubts after hearing that?

yall wanna hear some of the joints?

'with you'
http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/7moonz/with%20you.rm

'just another hookless thought'
http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/7moonz/ht.rm

'it's like'
http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/7moonz/il.rm

'the vow'
http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/7moonz/vow.rm

http://www.7moonz.com
http://www.rebirthmag.com

First of all, since when is someone's skill on the mic determined by their aptitude for violence? Even more so, if you're so much "realer" why start a battle with a subpar verse that in all probability will result in a loss for you? If you're that "real" why not just swing on the offender and be done with it? Second, if you really ARE (big ol' if - bordering insuated prevarication) a better MC, then why is it even an issue to band someone from performing? If you're that much better, prove it and let the audience decide. Lastly, what are you Bun B's A/R manager? Did you sit down with him in a coffee shop and watch him knock someone out? Who are you to determine or even judge an MC's realness? I'm a common fan and I'm not disputing your claim that Bun B is a better MC (matter of opinion), but I don't believe he is. What I am CRUSHING is your reasoning. Realness? You hypothesize victory for Bun B based soley on an arbitrary concept as listener measured "realness?" Real, is the @$$-whoopin that Common put on cube. Common's track record speaks for itself.

"the malice I use is comparable to a warlock." - Murdoc

"I never said that battlin me, would be impossible
I just think it's highly motherfuckin improbable
You talkin to a nigga that can split molecules
to subatomic particles, strong enough to stop a bull
Body-slam two oxes and drop a mule
Urinatin rocket fuel" - Canibus

'realness' as a qualifying measure of an urban artists talent IS perceivable. I'll try to break this down for you, with out sounding too ignorant.

Both of these two artists make music for other people, they dont just sit in the bedrooms and record only for their own pleasure, correct? Com has changed and gone to another level in his sound, attracting a different type of listener. Bun B has not. He doesn't rely much on metaphors or wordplay, he's much more straight forward then Com is or was. The beauty of a Com verse was that you had to listen to it, a few times, to catch everything the cat was trying to get across...Bun is more lowest common denominator, there is no second level or varying degrees of depth to his lyrics, he says whatever and thats exactly what he means. Ppl can relate easier to Bun than they can to Com. The typical hip hop listener, on hearing tracks from either of these two, would be more inclined to remember one of Buns lines, than one of Com's simply because they didn't have to figure it out.

"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

Common's
>track record speaks for itself.


ONE GODDAMN SONG AGAINST AN AGING WEST COAST PIONEER BACKED BY WC OF ALL PEOPLE!!!

SO
FUCKING
WHAT.

We have yet to see what Com can/will do, but damn, get off "the bitch in yoo"'s nuts.

>We have yet to see what
>Com can/will do, but damn,
>get off "the bitch in
>yoo"'s nuts.

can someone, ANYONE, post battle lyrics from Bun B? Stop saying 'ignorance begone' and start providing some information.

And we know damn well what Com will do based on "hungry" and "the bitch in yoo". who gives a fuck who the lyrics were aimed it, the shit was popping...and "I met a ho who said you were her favorite rapper, so i had to slap her" ain't super-complex...Com doesn't spit these incomprehensible verses in his battle rhymes...besides, a lot of it is emphasis and attitude (that's why when you see battles, the lines that get the most applause aren't necessarily the tightest...it's mostly about how you spit it).

Can *anyone* throw up Bun's tightest battle lyrics? Otherwise, this is all speculation...

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/miscellaneous_flux.shtml (Flux's "Sad Sunshine" is currently an editor's pick at http://www.washingtonpost.com/mp3)

I'll give you that.

But he can't fuck with Com. Neither could Cube. Neither could 85% of the niggas in the game.

The Infamous DVSJ

1/4 of THE GENESIS EXPERIMENT

The album "ORIGIN UNKNOWN" is completed and coming soon!!!!

The nigga is nicer than Com..



"I gets twisted like a pretzel/U rappers cryin the blues/cause I make this shit look way easier than tying my shoes" Bun B

If you're trying to impress me with Bun B's skills with that line, you've failed. I give Bun props, but as I said before, Com's on another level.

"the malice I use is comparable to a warlock." - Murdoc

"I never said that battlin me, would be impossible
I just think it's highly motherfuckin improbable
You talkin to a nigga that can split molecules
to subatomic particles, strong enough to stop a bull
Body-slam two oxes and drop a mule
Urinatin rocket fuel" - Canibus

It was part of my sig...U are brainwashed on this site man...Com aint even the best in Chicago...OOps..he vanished...Twista would knock his ass out...Back in the day Com had shit on lock..But after his change...No way..Bun B has kept it real from DAY ONE and would whup com's ass...



"Ooohh venom/cross my heart hope to die/stick a needle in my eye/If you didn't have Suga Free/you'd have to invent him"~Suga Free

"We stay on point like Stacy Adams"~Kokane

"I know when you'll change your mind/that's when your rent is due (when your rent is due)/and you're many months behind/How's that to treat your friend/with that attitude/you can leave it all behind"~Raphael Saddiq

come on now....


"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

>come on now....

How you figure? Just b/c of his rhyme style? Twista was never heavy on the content

Plus all com would have to do is talk about back when 'Tung Twista' was all afrocentric and shit. His oldest material is comedy!

Cats kill me sayin com can't bring it anymore....

*****************************************************************
"I wanna give a shout out...to funkmaster flex and all the dj's across the world. I want to give a shout out to my n***a luke, I wanna give a shout out to my n***a suge knight,...to my n***a dr. dre, snoop dogg. I wanna give a shout out to..umm...ummm...ummm what's them n***as? Outkast!? I wanna give a shout out to ummmm them crazy n***as... that...in parts of the world that I never been to. I wanna give a shout out...to the eskimos! I wanna give a shout out to the submarines...I wanna give a shout out to th...uh the army navy airforce marines! Knowuhmsayin? Y'all playin my music...in the submarines, in the boats! Knowuhmsayin?!? Play that sh*t! Youknowuhmsayin?!? Called travelin' music bustin yo ass style! Yo Big Baby Jesus youknowhumsayin?!? One looove! I give a shout out to all the women! I give a shout out to alll the babies, all the munchkins all across the world playin hopscotch!! I give a shout out to all the schoolteachers! I give a shout out to uhhhhm....ummmm...myself!" - ODB "I Can't Wait"

Com cant compete w/ Twista fro simple 'how'd he say all that' factor.

and his topics all @ least make sense.


"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

Get clowned for his present style...Twista would eat his ass up without breaking a sweat..



"Ooohh venom/cross my heart hope to die/stick a needle in my eye/If you didn't have Suga Free/you'd have to invent him"~Suga Free

"We stay on point like Stacy Adams"~Kokane

"I know when you'll change your mind/that's when your rent is due (when your rent is due)/and you're many months behind/How's that to treat your friend/with that attitude/you can leave it all behind"~Raphael Saddiq

>Get clowned for his present style...Twista
>would eat his ass up
>without breaking a sweat..

Really, and Twista's renowned dis record is.........? Correct Non-existent. Quite simply Com would kill b/c of his superior lyrical intellect. Twista or just about anyone else would get carved up like Cube did.

again...cats kill me saying that Com can't bring it. Like he fell off or something

yall will even bring up a 3rd stringers like Bun B and Twista. I guess Project Pat will be rippin Com soon too.

Losers.


*****************************************************************
"I wanna give a shout out...to funkmaster flex and all the dj's across the world. I want to give a shout out to my n***a luke, I wanna give a shout out to my n***a suge knight,...to my n***a dr. dre, snoop dogg. I wanna give a shout out to..umm...ummm...ummm what's them n***as? Outkast!? I wanna give a shout out to ummmm them crazy n***as... that...in parts of the world that I never been to. I wanna give a shout out...to the eskimos! I wanna give a shout out to the submarines...I wanna give a shout out to th...uh the army navy airforce marines! Knowuhmsayin? Y'all playin my music...in the submarines, in the boats! Knowuhmsayin?!? Play that sh*t! Youknowuhmsayin?!? Called travelin' music bustin yo ass style! Yo Big Baby Jesus youknowhumsayin?!? One looove! I give a shout out to all the women! I give a shout out to alll the babies, all the munchkins all across the world playin hopscotch!! I give a shout out to all the schoolteachers! I give a shout out to uhhhhm....ummmm...myself!" - ODB "I Can't Wait"

adrenaline rush, 2nd verse:

pullin up and bailin out like we're carsick, I'm ready to start shit
start up buryin some heads like an ostrich and unload the whole
cartridge and throw the shells out the garbage
the hardest of motherfuckers could never achieve what Ive accomplished
yungbuck's my accomplice
located his existance with my 6th sense like a compass and starting on a
journey established to stop this
rushin up the hearts of the niggaz to get em charged whats the real
reason
all you haters try to murder me so now its kill season
and even though I'm still bleedin I comin after you cuz I'm still
breathin
and y'all can't trace me I bury my victims in the wall like gacey
too lyrical
and since its nipple my umbilical these flows is critical this music is
miracle like I'm biblical
killin like I'm nuttier than buddy love and still wouldn't leave a
bloody glove and start the truck up
and speed the fuck up getaway smokin this blunt dump the adrenaline
eruptin my viens I'm pumped up

show me one verse of Com's that can fuck w/ the previous, guaranteed I can find another Twista verse to eat it up.

far as I can see, NO ONE in the game is fucking w/ Twista...continue the hate.


"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

Invocation


"Envisioning the hereafter, listenin to Steve Wonder
On a Quest for Love like the Proceed drummer
I strike like lightning and don't need thunder
Inhale imagination and breathe wonder
That's your lady, I used to run up in her and G weed from her
It's a cold world and niggaz need summer
At times my going forward seems like retreat
As I rewrite rhyme after rhyme and throw away beats
Growing into my britches, outgrowing the streets
There's a thin line between war and peace, whores and jeeps
Ignore MCs like beeps, scribblin freedom on pages
My third eye is like pink eye, seemin contagious
Redeemin the ancients with ageless rhyme jargon
I feel Mexican, hip hop is my garden
Don't give a fuck where you chartin, certain shit I can't honor
It ain't that you sellin, it's your karma
Rappers I monitor like a chaperone, you large and haven't grown
Poetically perform fly-bys, another rapper gone
The stage becomes a catacomb, I rap like a mummy
Not for the money, I could have sampled Diana Ross a long time ago
My mind of flow is like motor key 20
Youngblood said he had dimes, I prayed that he see twenty
Hollerin at the brothers, either you gon be a thug or a man
Flip drugs and get land, I can see my man Rashad
As he described how the bucks hit him
And said slugs was still stuck in him, when it rained, it fucked wit him
This bucket interrupt wisdom and asked when my album was comin
I said it's here
It's here (*echoed*)"

There's more where this came from.


"I wanna give a shout out...to funkmaster flex and all the dj's across the world. I want to give a shout out to my n***a luke, I wanna give a shout out to my n***a suge knight,...to my n***a dr. dre, snoop dogg. I wanna give a shout out to..umm...ummm...ummm what's them n***as? Outkast!? I wanna give a shout out to ummmm them crazy n***as... that...in parts of the world that I never been to. I wanna give a shout out...to the eskimos! I wanna give a shout out to the submarines...I wanna give a shout out to th...uh the army navy airforce marines! Knowuhmsayin? Y'all playin my music...in the submarines, in the boats! Knowuhmsayin?!? Play that sh*t! Youknowuhmsayin?!? Called travelin' music bustin yo ass style! Yo Big Baby Jesus youknowhumsayin?!? One looove! I give a shout out to all the women! I give a shout out to alll the babies, all the munchkins all across the world playin hopscotch!! I give a shout out to all the schoolteachers! I give a shout out to uhhhhm....ummmm...myself!" - ODB "I Can't Wait"

we have complete opposite opinions of what makes a verse dope.


"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

I've never heard Twista's stuff, but that verse was pretty good. If I use that verse as a template, all it seems like to me is that he's looking to put as many words as posible in a line that rhyme. Kinda like he takes a word, takes all of the words that rhyme with it, and then sit down and create a line.

On the other hand, I appreciate Com's verse because it's more complicated for want of a better word.....I don't know...like you said, different strokes for different folks.

Peace,
Phil

*******Quote for the day**********
Hey Yo, i'm stuck up, pretentious, egotistic, conceited, so when you said you wasn't feelin it I ain't believe it. - Oracle: SPEC

!!SOULIGOS!!!

It's all lies, we're fucking Whores.
*Giving you true smut August 23rd to September 22nd*

no doubt.

I appreciate the cat, every time I listen to his lyrics, I have to rewind in order to fully get @ where his mentals are, and thats good shit.

HOWEVER, in a straight battle. Put Coms sample verse, against Twistas, and throw them in front of a crowd.


Twist wins. Period.


P, try to say Twists verse. I mean say it out loud. To say that many words, and have them all make sense, and to never run out of breath, and to get involved w/ the music (u said u had never heard Twist, I recommend it HIGHLY) like he does....Com is nice, no doubt about it. For sheer imagery, he's got it.

but in a battle....I dont think so man...my opinion.


"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

>HOWEVER, in a straight battle. Put
>Coms sample verse, against Twistas,
>and throw them in front
>of a crowd.

I think that goes back to what you said about what people want to hear...the "realness" aspect of it. I think that people are more into Twista's subject matter than Com's and they'e eat that up, but I wouldn't put it past Com to come nasty too, I think he's versatile enough to do that.


>P, try to say Twists verse.
>I mean say it out
>loud. To say that many
>words, and have them all
>make sense, and to never
>run out of breath, and
>to get involved w/ the
>music

I thought of that when I was reading it, I'm sure it is hard to do.

>For sheer imagery, he's
>got it.

I think that is the word I was looking for...I think Com's imagery is what I like more than Twista's ish.

>
>but in a battle....I dont think
>so man...my opinion.

This is like one of those superman vs luke skywalker debates you had when you were a kid. haha

Peace,
Phil

*******Quote for the day**********
Hey Yo, i'm stuck up, pretentious, egotistic, conceited, so when you said you wasn't feelin it I ain't believe it. - Oracle: SPEC

!!SOULIGOS!!!

It's all lies, we're fucking Whores.
*Giving you true smut August 23rd to September 22nd*

far as I can see, NO
>ONE in the game is
>fucking w/ Twista...continue the hate.

So Twista's the best out there? You're Nuckin Futs. Crack kills.

*****************************************************************
"I wanna give a shout out...to funkmaster flex and all the dj's across the world. I want to give a shout out to my n***a luke, I wanna give a shout out to my n***a suge knight,...to my n***a dr. dre, snoop dogg. I wanna give a shout out to..umm...ummm...ummm what's them n***as? Outkast!? I wanna give a shout out to ummmm them crazy n***as... that...in parts of the world that I never been to. I wanna give a shout out...to the eskimos! I wanna give a shout out to the submarines...I wanna give a shout out to th...uh the army navy airforce marines! Knowuhmsayin? Y'all playin my music...in the submarines, in the boats! Knowuhmsayin?!? Play that sh*t! Youknowuhmsayin?!? Called travelin' music bustin yo ass style! Yo Big Baby Jesus youknowhumsayin?!? One looove! I give a shout out to all the women! I give a shout out to alll the babies, all the munchkins all across the world playin hopscotch!! I give a shout out to all the schoolteachers! I give a shout out to uhhhhm....ummmm...myself!" - ODB "I Can't Wait"

...have you ever seen a battle? that shit you quoted isn't really registering in a battle. punchlines like "I'm burying heads like ostriches" ain't winning it. Unlike all this speculative shit, I have heard Com on tape battling cats face to face (Wake Up Show versus Wu Affiliates) and on studio-finished battle rhymes ("the bitch in yoo"). we're not talking about who is the nicest poet, we're looking for the illest with battle rhymes. You can be a dope rhyme writer, but might not necessarily have the illest battle rhymes.

Example: I don't think that Canibus is anywhere near the best songwriter in hip-hop, but he most certainly writes some of the illest battle verses.

Battling is about ripping your opponent, not speaking on random shit, no matter how ill the randomness sounds. It all comes down to who comes up with the coldest insults...with the wicked flows (twista's flow is super-sick though, let me say that).

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/miscellaneous_flux.shtml (Flux's "Sad Sunshine" is currently an editor's pick at http://www.washingtonpost.com/mp3)

twista?!? hmmm...he won't fuc with common kid...sorry to mk your dick go soft but.twista ain't messing with com...period! twista blew jay-z out tha water on is that yo chick(orignoo version) why tha helll you think jayz gave that shit to bleek....couldn't stand another cat outshining him on his own shit which was a weak nigga move indeed


wild 100's
chi-town, illanoize

U say how Twista cant fuck with com(UNTRUE) and then go on about how Twista kills Is that yo Bitch...

come on now...Com is cool and all..But he aint fuckin with Twista



"Ooohh venom/cross my heart hope to die/stick a needle in my eye/If you didn't have Suga Free/you'd have to invent him"~Suga Free

"We stay on point like Stacy Adams"~Kokane

"I know when you'll change your mind/that's when your rent is due (when your rent is due)/and you're many months behind/How's that to treat your friend/with that attitude/you can leave it all behind"~Raphael Saddiq

that's an easy answer. i hate jayz plain and simple dickwad. what tha fuc do twista killing is that yo...have anything to do with twista and com,and saying 100 words per minute don't make you dope or betta than tha next mc. hey yo...i don't like twista either just to let YOU know dickwad...but if a cat shines, he shines and i'll give props to that.



quote from my all-time worst wrestler
choke on that slap nuts!

I would like to challenge U to make a sentence that one can comprehend..It can NOT be that difficult for you...U are another Brainwashed one here I see..Twista doesn't go the 100 words thing all the time..he can switch it up..Dont get mad at me cause in a battle Twista wins..period..


"Ooohh venom/cross my heart hope to die/stick a needle in my eye/If you didn't have Suga Free/you'd have to invent him"~Suga Free

"We stay on point like Stacy Adams"~Kokane

"I know when you'll change your mind/that's when your rent is due (when your rent is due)/and you're many months behind/How's that to treat your friend/with that attitude/you can leave it all behind"~Raphael Saddiq

but it sounds humorous..
I find comedy in the lyrics. But since Bun B didn't actually say anything about COM,according to Atruhead, then I have to ignore it...


peace...

for borrowing Maxwell's look...

peace..

what is the title of the track?

typing in bun b as the artist worked for me

somebody brought up the point that it wasn't just one person dissing Com on the track, but a whole damn crew. now, i have all faith that Com could rip them boys a new one all by himself, but just imagine if he called in his friends like Thought, Mos, Talib, Pharoahe, etc. It would be like the all-star team. Now that is something that i would love to hear!!

------------------------------------------------------------
"Being famous is just like having big ol' titties. When you got big ol' titties everybody be like 'Look at them!' When you famous and you on tv everybody be like 'Look at him!' " - chris rock

"If you ever bump into me on the street, and then you bump into Jay-Z. I got $293,000 more dollars in my pocket, cuz he got a Bentley and i roll an Altima." - chris rock

"some signatures are just too damn long!" - me

UGK...I grew up on those boys...Ever since I was a "youn-gun". I gotta represent them boys, cause they represent me. Southern Playas worldwide.

Common...I've admired that boy from afar for awhile, remember him from when he was "Common Sense." Always thought he was a dope lyricist. I bought LWFC and absolutely went wild!

I say all that to say this, I think both are very good lyricists for their niches. You start mixing those niches up, it's straight up nasty. It's not meant to happen. But if it came down to it, I gotta side with UGK. Although they might not have the lyrical prowess of a Common, they still my diggas forever...So if it has to get down to it, I'd be rooting for UGK, knowing they couldn't touch Common lyrically...

"Why do I use my real name? So you'll get used to seeing it on the regular. Trust me, you will...And I don't mean for no bull either." - Alan Duval, entertainer

Bun could not approach Com's lyricism. If 'real' refers to Bun's capacity to kick every day average insults like "I'll kill you if I come to your town" and battle in the vein of tupac (fuckyoupussypunketetc) then sure he's 'real'

but if you wanna talk skills....Com will kill...Plus he can take it from the metaphorical to the literal to the double meaning levels

Bun B would be killed.

*****************************************************************
"I wanna give a shout out...to funkmaster flex and all the dj's across the world. I want to give a shout out to my n***a luke, I wanna give a shout out to my n***a suge knight,...to my n***a dr. dre, snoop dogg. I wanna give a shout out to..umm...ummm...ummm what's them n***as? Outkast!? I wanna give a shout out to ummmm them crazy n***as... that...in parts of the world that I never been to. I wanna give a shout out...to the eskimos! I wanna give a shout out to the submarines...I wanna give a shout out to th...uh the army navy airforce marines! Knowuhmsayin? Y'all playin my music...in the submarines, in the boats! Knowuhmsayin?!? Play that sh*t! Youknowuhmsayin?!? Called travelin' music bustin yo ass style! Yo Big Baby Jesus youknowhumsayin?!? One looove! I give a shout out to all the women! I give a shout out to alll the babies, all the munchkins all across the world playin hopscotch!! I give a shout out to all the schoolteachers! I give a shout out to uhhhhm....ummmm...myself!" - ODB "I Can't Wait"

'go read a book you illiterate son of a bitch, and step up yo vocab'

that's a dope line

what's so dope about it? i say ish like that to my friends when i'm kidding around. now that i think about it, maybe i can be a rapper!

------------------------------------------------------------
"Being famous is just like having big ol' titties. When you got big ol' titties everybody be like 'Look at them!' When you famous and you on tv everybody be like 'Look at him!' " - chris rock

"If you ever bump into me on the street, and then you bump into Jay-Z. I got $293,000 more dollars in my pocket, cuz he got a Bentley and i roll an Altima." - chris rock

"some signatures are just too damn long!" - me

his cadence when he spits that shit. most of the time lyrics aint all that they are hyped up to be, it how the artist spits the words.


the edge bun-b has over common is his flow. while i love com's lyrics, it's like he has a tough time finding a rhythm, he does a good job but it's still obvious. with bun-b his cadence and his voice is what makes him dope. the edge com has over bun-b is the fact that he has deeper insight in his lyrics. but this doesn't make any one better than the other. just different.


opio

I made a post a long time ago regarding this. But Pimp C dissed the Roots a while back for the "What they do" video on Meen Green's album "Smokin Section"

Obviously the UGK boys don't take a liking to the Soulquarians sound, since it don't "bump in the trunk" opinions are assholes tho, everybody got one.

>I made a post a long
>time ago regarding this.
>But Pimp C dissed the
>Roots a while back for
>the "What they do" video
>on Meen Green's album "Smokin
>Section"
>
>Obviously the UGK boys don't take
>a liking to the Soulquarians
>sound, since it don't "bump
>in the trunk" opinions are
>assholes tho, everybody got one.

actually, several gangsta cats had problems with the "what they do" video because they saw it as hating. i seem to remember biggie taking that song the wrong way too (or the right way, depending on our viewpoint). it ain't about the beats, it was more about the message of the song/video.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

"I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me/While I ripped the flow/they lip synched the show hopelessly" Juice - "Sincerely"

"If y'all n----s don't feel me, then I'll blame it on your parents" - Tash "Smokefest"

Unfortunately, I don't think Com is gonna answer because as I remember, he had to sqaush the beef with Cube with the help of Nation of Islam after all the Eastcoast/Westcoast drama (the one b4 Biggie and Tupac - yes it's always been around) And he promised not to go that route anymore. Also understand that this conincided with the change in his direction to the present album. At the time he started the progression to being more spiritual and more mature and honest with his lyrics.

So that's why most folks don't think he can still bring it but he damn sure will if he had to. And Bun B would not stand a chance. Shame that it might not happen - anyway Eminem got enough drama going on for me, thank you.

I don't think the folks who are backing Bun B know Common like some of us do or they trying to forget.

_____________________________

Y'all stop sleeping on Common - Me

Creased up like linen, with a soft spot for small women, green trees and Girbaud denim.

I have never heard Bun B spit a battle rap, and he only really got nice on the Riding Dirty album. But I have not heard any of the TX underground material.
Com we all know about Com.. so my edge will go to come..

but it want be easy..

peace

Vann Damme that means some of you havent heard that song where ugk disses the roots. but kill all that non sense cant we just have peace in hip hop sheesh!!!??!!!!

Hiphop is kinda stagnant to me roight now. So it's nice to hear some ruckus. Unfortunately the parties involved are not always guaranteed to keep it responsible and not take it to barbaric levels. Heathly competition is always good but let's be careful aight,

"Those who seek revenge must remember to dig two graves".
(Chinese proverb)

Creased up like linen, with a soft spot for small women, green trees and Girbaud denim.

<<<<Reason being, they were supposedly upset about something Com said at a show in TX in like 96 where UGK opened up for him.>>>

Okay, before we clobber UGK and Middle Finger-whatshisname, mayb we should review tha facts. What tha hell did Common say about these niccas that would make em so upset that they would resort to "dissin" him 5 years later??? If Common did say sumthin....he started so there's no need 4 us to bitch and moan about it. I pray he didnt say anything, because who tha fuck disses their opening act? thats rude as hell....if he did that to me, i'd get bac at him too.

peace

¬_¬

me.
http://www.ohsonappy.com

we have excuse to bring com and pete rock on another track to bitch out some wack fuck diss again.

since bitch in yoo... back then Com didn't have that much material out for Cube to dis him about... whereas Cube had several albums, movies, etc. out there in the open

now it's flippes... Com that has changed his image... and truthfully some of the ish he's wearing these days would not be hard to throw into a battle rap

I still think Com can get to levels where other rappers can't in battles... and think he can slay anyone (i also admit don't know ish about bun b, but the name alone is weak)... but i'm just saying he doesn't have the up-and-comers advantage anymore


** Chicago - Home of the 2nd Annual Okayplayer Reunion - The 1st True Reunion, minus the ()**

** (Un)Official slogan of the 2001 Reunion- Let's do it again y'all (c) Common**

"I live and die for a just cause, not just cause" - J-Live

Play Okay Sports!

I saw Common spit that freestyle, dude did it here in Cincinnati, but just as a joke, 'cuz like it was on a roll from the shit that he was doing in his rhyme. lol....I'm trippin' off the fact that ya'll would think that dude would be sayin' "whack emcees be sippin' on some sizzurp" to diss Texas, I know it's a popular practice in Texas and whatnot, but 3-6 Mafia from Memphis made that joint as ya'll know. And fuck whoever dudes name, why be concerned? If it came out on a national level than it'll be different, it's not Cube-Comm status yet.

Peace.

....never bet on a cat named 'bun b' to win at anything.
Peace,
Naz

Http://www.bluechip-productions.com
BlueChip Productions, LLC.

your sleeping.



"You wanna live broke, I'd rather die rich, nuff said." ~ S. Carter


'hyperdermic people poking fun at the living...' ~ pattern against user; @ the Drive In

pass the P's like they used to say...' ~ DeLa

fin.

> ....never bet on a cat
>named 'bun b' to win
>at anything.

but come on, do you think MC Shan thought "KRS-One" was the name of the guy who was gonna end his career?

I think Com will win, but not cause dude has an old school sounding name.

(if you think about it, most names in hip-hop are wack)

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux - click for instant audio gratification

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
- b-boy soul music for the world to
uprock to...

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/miscellaneous_flux.shtml (Flux's "Sad Sunshine" is currently an editor's pick at http://www.washingtonpost.com/mp3)