Can you believe that he did not win a single award?!!!!! Imagine Best Video going to Mystikal's "shake ya ass" - that's exactly what happened. So much for representing uplifting black music.

(snicker)

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D'angelo makes music for primarily black people.There nothing worse than making music and your own people not getting it. It such a shame that black people are so adverse to change esp. when it comes to music. They like it quick and ready i.e music with no depth.

>D'angelo makes music for primarily black
>people.

d'angelo makes music for people, it just so happens that it's black music

There nothing worse than making
>music and your own
>people not getting it.

soul train ain't all black anyway, why are u surprised?

It
>such a shame that black
>people are so adverse to
>change esp. when it comes
>to music. They like it
>quick and ready i.e music
>with no depth.



like i said, i'm sure d is just torn up about this. `

There's no need to get sarcastic you're prone to doing that .If you don't want to hold a discussion about this then don't bother posting. I definetely regard soul train as a black awards show and if they can't honour him then there's a problem that needs addressing whether or not D'is concerned about this or not.

trying? am i insulting u or something?

>There's no need to get sarcastic
>you're prone to doing that

don't even try to stereotype me, i'm not even being sarcastic, i'm replying to what u said. what am i supposed to grab a box of kleenex and light a candle with you cuz your messiah d'angelo didn't get a soul train award?


>.If you don't want to
>hold a discussion about this
>then don't bother posting.

i thought i was holding a discussion. but u say it's sarcasm. well whatever the fuck, sarcasm is dialogue too.

I
>definetely regard soul train as
>a black awards show and
>if they can't honour him
>then there's a problem that
>needs addressing whether or not
>D'is concerned about this or
>not.

it's not a problem, IT'S AN AWARD'S SHOW! a problem would be d'angelo getting no airplay, not being able to record. he just won two grammy's for chrissakes. do u know the prestige one of those grammophones hold? do you? in and outside of the black community a grammy is as good as god giving you accolades. i'm not saying a st award isn't significant, i'm saying that soul train for the last decade and a half has been "un-black". if u don't see that then i can't show u

The problem is when similar or like minded artists do not get recognised by our own people. What message do you think this sends out to our youth? If you're not bling-blinging in videos or
singing about cars and booty you're not honorable.

>The problem is when similar or
>like minded artists do not
>get recognised by our own
>people.

similar & like minded to whom?


What message do you
>think this sends out to
>our youth?

musicians aren't leaders

If you're not
>bling-blinging in videos or
>singing about cars and booty you're
>not honorable.


are u using the st awards as the standard by which to measure honor and acclaim?

where do you live?

>>The problem is when similar or
>>like minded artists do not
>>get recognised by our own
>>people.
>
>similar & like minded to whom?

Your Erykahs, Bilals, Jills, Macys, Maxwells, etc.


>What message do you
>>think this sends out to
>>our youth?
>
>musicians aren't leaders

Don't be silly!!! Do read properly b4 replying. I meant soul train sending out the message

>If you're not
>>bling-blinging in videos or
>>singing about cars and booty you're
>>not honorable.
>
>
>are u using the st awards
>as the standard by which
>to measure honor and acclaim?

No matter what you think artists appreciate being honoured in - be it the grammys or the st awards and I'm sorry these(neo-soul) artists are no exception. Plus do you know D' personally? How do you know he's not smarting over this.


>where do you live?

What does this have to do with anything?

>Your Erykahs, Bilals, Jills, Macys, Maxwells,
>etc.
>

why can't mystikal win anything? is there some anti-mystikal law on the books?

>Don't be silly!!! Do read properly
>b4 replying. I meant soul
>train sending out the message
>

since fucking when, within the last decade has a soul train show sent out any message that was anti-titties, ass, clothes & jewelry? please cite the show and date and i swear on my unborn children i'll send u 1,000 dollars.


>
>>

>
>No matter what you think artists
>appreciate being honoured in -
>be it the grammys or
>the st awards and I'm
>sorry these(neo-soul) artists are no
>exception.

huh? please, one more time for the people in the balcony


Plus do you know
>D' personally? How do you
>know he's not smarting over
>this.
>

maybe

>
>>where do you live?
>
>What does this have to do
>with anything?


alot

u think the industry is tryna raise our kids?



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That's it, i'm done. BITCH MODE officially BACK in full effect. Got 'tude? Brang it!

Gonna be a riot out this mutha.........


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heads are used to it.

damn U brainwashees kill me...He lost..I am sure he aint losin sleep..


"Perving, swervin rannin all into the fuckin curb and/If I get one more D.U.I. then it's curtains"~E Feezy

"Uhh, rappers sport my style like they sport clothes/then have the nerve to say they made it up, now that's some hoes"~E feezy

"I was that little muthafucka showin out in the back of the church/my momma was quick to hit me wit a switch and i'd say 'that hurts'"~E Feezy

Voodoo wasn't a very good album anyway. It was okay, but it definitely wasn't great. It was way too bass heavy, and you could barely understand what he was saying. The brightest spots on the album was "Untitled How Does It Feel" and "Africa", but they were so much of a Prince bite that he should give Prince production credit. D'Angelo is still a good artist, but Voodoo was kind of disappointing. People shouldn't give the album high praise just because he uses real instruments. Although, real instruments sound better, the music still has to be good. Voodoo was not great at all. Erykah's album ia an example of a great album. She will rack up awards for Mama's Gun. Not that awards matter so much, because the people themselves have shown her during her performances that they absolutely LOVE Mama's Gun.

>Voodoo wasn't a very good album
>anyway. It was okay, but
>it definitely wasn't great

I have been screaming this since it dropped...


"Perving, swervin rannin all into the fuckin curb and/If I get one more D.U.I. then it's curtains"~E Feezy

"Uhh, rappers sport my style like they sport clothes/then have the nerve to say they made it up, now that's some hoes"~E feezy

"I was that little muthafucka showin out in the back of the church/my momma was quick to hit me wit a switch and i'd say 'that hurts'"~E Feezy

He was not nominated in the best album category anyway so the fact that u don't think it was not a good album is such a cop out.His perfrmance of "Untitled" was great whether you think it was a Prince rip-off or not.Also VIBE, B.E.T and A healthy amount of the population couldn't have been wrong when they voted it video of the year.

>>Voodoo wasn't a very good album
>>anyway. It was okay, but
>>it definitely wasn't great
>
>I have been screaming this since
>it dropped...


Okay bullshit does stink...i never really smelled it untill reading these two post saying that VOODOO was not a good album. first of all if u feel that way we must ask...by what standards do YOU judge a good album by? because an albums merit in my view, is judged by production (whether live instrumentation or not counts for something too), overall lyrical content, overall creativity (is it groundbreaking? or just the same 'ol shit?), and to what degree i can use my imagination/instincts/personal experience to relate to each song on the album. those are just SOME of the criteria i use when rating an album. but most importantly i said MY criteria, because i can only judge an album from my OWN personal veiw. thus to say that an album is "not great" u must ask urself...not great to whom? cuz platinum is a status that not many acheive, and many that do...dont deserve it. but futhermore, if YOU ppl cant find VOODOO to be a good innovative album, and YOU find it lacking...then we must ask another question, is it the album that is lacking or is it YOU that is lacking the neccessary knowledge and faculties to contemplate what the album is about? think about it...and shut up lol.

~1~

Sorry...i just didn't feel it...I am entitled to say so..


"Perving, swervin rannin all into the fuckin curb and/If I get one more D.U.I. then it's curtains"~E Feezy

"Uhh, rappers sport my style like they sport clothes/then have the nerve to say they made it up, now that's some hoes"~E feezy

"I was that little muthafucka showin out in the back of the church/my momma was quick to hit me wit a switch and i'd say 'that hurts'"~E Feezy

The release of this monumental piece of music called Voodoo, made it possible for people like Erykah, Jilly, Musiq, etc. to release their respective albums. It got the public ready to recieve the full brunt of the neo-soul revoulution that was too come. And as we know in revolutions the people on the front lines sacrifice themselves, so the second wave can wipe out opposition.

Brown Sugar got D' more accolades because it was very R&B. People didn't have to do any work. He just gave you some live ass R&B songs to chill with. Brown Sugar had surefire "singles" on it. Songs that would individually define the album even if you never heard it. Like you'd be like "Oh shit, that's lady of D's new joint." But with Voodoo you can't really do that. Because it's a complete work. Every song is tied in with the other. It's kinda like Prince Paul's joint. You can't listen to the 35 tracks in just any order. The only way it really makes sense is if you can appreciate it as a complete work. And even though Brown Sugar couldn't hold Voodoo's jock, it will always be seen as a better album by the masses, point blank.

Voodoo isn't a piece of music that you just listen too and like. Voodoo to me is an understanding. You have to understand the fades on "One Mo Gin", and the hook on "The Root", etc. And for those of you who may ask...yes it is that deep. Because if you don't understand this work, then you won't really feel it. You don't like Mama's Gun or Jill's Album because you can play it in the club. You appreciate it because you can feel the artist put a piece of theirself into the song that you're listening to. Everybody may not feel it like that. And it's cool. But to say it's not that good is just being silly. It's just you haven't elevated to the point that you can truly understand.

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Do you think that's air you're breathing? --Morpheous

It wasn't me. --Shaggy

"Voodoo isn't a piece of music that you just listen too and like. Voodoo to me is an understanding."

This is an amazing way to explain how tight Voodoo truely is. It is more than "just music".
TIGHT!

Peace

preach on... damn, somebody finally summed it up. thank goodness!


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both of u lick a shutup lollipop!

too bass heavy, u sound crazy! take that shit to npgonline

LOL!!!
> take that shit to
>npgonline


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Voodoo is the shit..it's better than Brown Sugar and Brown Sugar earned him an arm load of awards...ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, whatever.

oh well... onward to James River we go.


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how'd ya git ta be soo sweet?
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"you wear a disguise to look like human guys. but you're not a man, you're a chicken-boo."(animaniacs)

Uuuh, I agree with your assessment of Voodoo in that aspect, BUT, it still is a great album. It really showed how D'Angelo elevated himself musically compared to Brown Sugar. Hey, if moving to the next level for D'Angelo is UP to the level where he can comfortably bite Prince's ass, so be it! Not many people can make it THAT far.....


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I would give my right arm to hear the Root live.

Voodoo as a live show was for the fans. I would not have attended as many shows as I did for the music if the record had not triggered something in me.

Voodoo is not for lazy listners.


I think it's time to move on about the awards because they don't validate anyone. Yes, Voodoo has it's limitations, but there are so many other aspects of the record that he should be praised for as well as the other musicians who contributed to the recording. I think Charlie Hunter said it best when he stated that it was ashame Voodoo had to be produced in the current climate of the recording industry. It's like casting pearls before swine.

Voodoo is not black music, it just d's expression.

It is unfortunate that Untitled/video overshadows the whole album.

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When I see green...I be thinkin... --Ghostface Killah

Do you think that's air you're breathing? --Morpheous

It wasn't me. --Shaggy

I agree. Even though I opted to miss my very important study group to see the grammys, I only learned that my music taste has surpassed grammy standards. Even though there's a tendency for black folks to feel that the Soul Train Awards honors OUR best artists, I've had to let it go also. Some artists may let awards validate them, but others are concerned with making good music.
Why is everyone surprised that he didn't win? Voodoo lovers know that it's some next level ish and I don't expect (nor want) everybody to feel it the way I do.


"How you figure that your team can effect my cream?"-Biggie

I can't believe he didn't at least win the video award..sheesh, WHEN is this video gonna get some props??

It seems like a little bit of a reversal of fortune since Jill did win best female album (beating out Toni Braxton) and Eminem was shut out of his two categories.

Maybe this will please some of the folks who were crying foul this time last week.





"Don't you know that last night/ turned to daylight/ and a minute, became a day/ last night/ all my troubles/ well they seemed so, so far away/ searching my reflection/ for a glimpse of, another me/ I've got to get away from/ all these high times/ cause these high times/ are killing me" -Jay Kay (Jamiroquai), "High Times"

True True.

WE ALL KNOW THAT!!!

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"Mama don't 'llow no music playin' in here. Mama don't 'llow no music playin' in here. I don't care what Mama don't 'llow...I mo' play my music anyhow."--nostalgia

"If you hear any noise, it's just me and the boys"...:-):-):-)--George Clinton

"We be clubbin', everybody like when the girls shake somethin".--Ice Cube

"Bad, the girl is Bad!!! Real Bad
We scream, we shout, we turned that
Mother out!!!"--George Clinton

can somebody just tell me if Carl won an award?


That Girl
d-nice78

Carl got shut out even though he had three nominantions. That joint was definitely one of the top R&B albums of the year though.

that definitely sucks! Emotional was THE album of the year, to me that is.

That Girl
d-nice78

So visuals, cinematography, etc. come into play.

They didn't say untitled was not as good a song as Shake that Ass - they said Shake That Ass had a better video.

how about origninality and imagination????????
as in not the same ol shit we see in any other video

I'm not saying which video was better...I'm saying best video encompasses a lot of things.

what videos were up against "shake it fast?"
-AO