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18528, RE: Attention all MC's, DJ's...
Posted by Re_Alief, Wed Mar-07-01 11:08 PM
>Let me say this first, so that y'all don't jump all over me. I think the beef if definitely two-sided. It is needless and could be easily squashed. And overall, I can't believe that y'all would take such a one-sided stance on the beef."
True, this has got to stop!

"Some misconceptions:
1.As a DJ, he is very talented and influential. You guys wouldn't know that though because he isn't from NY or on DFX."
What does being fromNY have to do with anything? Maybe U need 2 look @ profiles, a bunch of non NY heads have posted to this thread as well!

"He has independently released 36 mix-tapes. His blends are perfect. I have seen the man blend 2 jazz records, 2 house records, 2 whatever with ease."
From what little I've heard thus far, duke's ok, but his blending is not perfect IMO and he talks too much for a non-commercial dj.

"Secondly, i doubt any of y'all know him on a personal level.
While I think he would even admit some stubbornness,"
Some?? He's the one constantly posting this "more than a week after the fact" (his words)makes it look like he's trying to garner as much attention to himself as possible.

"Being new and young in the Chicago scene, 3rd has shown me love
and has been always willing to help. He always reciprocates the actions given to him."
It appears that you're letting your "friendship(?) get in the way of your judgement?! You have to admit that he is a little jaded by a perceived diss?

2. You don't see any hipocrisy in the arguments?"
Yeah, on both sides!!

"Because 3rd calls out Kweli on a message board that 15 people
post on, Kweli is justified to call him out in front of 900 people at the Metro?"
Hey, you man enough to air your beef on the net (that has the potential to reach "thousands" {his words again} of people)you should be man enough to deal with the consequences! He could have easily contacted Talib/his manager and settled this "beef" yo!

"3. How many of y'all have heard the phone conversation between
Kweli and 3rd on his show? This was a full-fledged tirade. 3rd put on Talib with the full intention of squashing beef. 3rd Rail could not get 10 words into the conversation. If Kweli really wanted to squash, 3rd was willing to admit some wrongdoing, if he was given the small opportunity."
The phone thing was after the fact! You can't really expect TK to be cordial after he felt that he was being shitted on! Like I said before, he could of handled things better on his end (just as much as TK could have too!)

"4. To the cat who commented on 3rd grammar and writing in comparison to 3rd, that is just some ignorant bullshit. That really has nothing at all to do with intelligence. As many extremely intelligent people are illiterate due to language
barriers, etc."
Word!

"5. People who mention Kweli's talent are absoulutely right. The man is talented. I was always a fan of his older material. Still, practice what you preach. I remember you saying on stage, "I'd like to see 3rd Rail come down here and say that", or some thing to that effect. Then what? So y'all can have a fist fight? That's gonna do alot of good."
Just because an individual is talented doesn't make him some kind of superior being! He has feelings just like any one else and is likely to let emotions take over.

"Why not squash it? Obviously, this beef isn't gonna hurt Kweli that much. He is gonna sell tons of units as long as his music stays on point. There is something to be said, though, about someone who preaches positivity and pacifism and then unleashes
a 20 minutes tirade on the phone over a fairly small beef."
Why not ask 3rd why didn't he make a genuine attempt to squash the beef instead of going on the air/online? He ebenifits from all the publicity. Another thing, he brought the whole "TK's dissing Chicago" into this un-called for "beef" IMO!

"I would recommend that alot of y'all brush up on some facts
before you take your hero's word as truth."
People with glass houses...It seems like you should take your own advice! How many heads were talking about boycotting TK based on what he was supposed to have done?

"If Kweli told y'all that he had beef with Common or D'Angelo or Questlove, would you take his word 100% or listen to their argument too."
I can only speak for myself: I waited for TK's response and made an opinion based of what's presented before me. 3rd seems a little big headed cuz of some diss. He needs to get over it and keep doing what's made him a well known person. I also feel that your relationship with 3rd has clouded your judgement somewhat. Would you be defending him if he hadn't shown you love?

I'd love for this thing to be over, but 3rd posting this shit over and over on his site ain't helping matters not one lil bit!

Peace2U,
Ré Alief ~~~> part-time poster

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