Attention all MC's, DJ's and people who participate in hiphop culture - It has come to my attention that 3rd Rail is asking people to boycott my records after I dissed the hell out him at my show in Chicago. I also thoroughly explained why I dissed him. I even called 3rd Rail on his show and explained it again after I heard his homeboys were all trying to figure it out. I didn't leave room for misinterpretation. I said, if you don't talk about me, I won't talk about you. Simple, ... right? Now he's spreading lies about me and asking people to not play my shit. Once a bitch, ... right? Now I have to defend myself again. Before anyone starts taking sides, you need the facts.

Back in November, 3rd Rail wrote a letter on his website talking about Fuck Kweli, fuck Hi-Tek, ... Reflection Eternal is wack. Before you judge what I had to say in response to that letter, you should get a copy of it. I'm not really into the Internet like that, but I'm sure y'all can find it somewhere.

Here are the facts:

1) Me and Hi-Tek did 3rd Rail and V-Funk's show last year. They showed us mad love, we had fun, it was all good. I do hundreds of radio shows that I don't remember, but I remember this one.

2) I came back to Chicago as a surprise guest on the Lyricist lounge tour that Mos Def headlined. I wasn't even billed to be there and I performed for 15 minutes. Apparently, Rawkus called 3rd Rail that day and asked him if I could do the show that same night, but they didn't offer him tickets to the show (Lyricist Lounge). Even though he has a radio show Sunday nights and could not have gone anyway, he was personally offended that Rawkus overlooked his invitation. He didn't ask for a ticket, he was just upset that he didn't get one. In response, he decides to retaliate by saying I can't come on his radio show.

I was looking forward to coming on the show and knew nothing about his ticket woes, which really have nothing to do with me. To say I can't come on the show because of that is a bitch move, ... period. But whatever. So anyway, the day I come back into Chicago for the Okayplayer show, my Rawkus rep calls 3rd Rail at the last minute to set up an in-store at the store he worked at. Problem was, they forgot to tell me about it until the last minute. I had already done 2 in-stores that day, I was tired, and it was getting close to showtime. When I heard people were waiting though, I was on my way.

Then I hear that it was 3rd Rail's store. Not two months earlier 3rd Rail said I couldn't do his radio show because he didn't get tickets to a show I wasn't even on the bill for. I'm thinkin', "I'm about to go out of my way for his in-store? Fuck That!" I turned the car around, said fuck 3rd Rail, took a nap and rocked my show with the Roots, Slum Village, Bahamadia, dead prez, Flo, the Jazzys, Jag and all the real fans who don't bitch and moan about the humanity of their artists.

For all the fans who were at the in-store ... I'm sorry, but shit happens. Schedules conflict, people give out false info. If you take that kind of shit personal, that's your issue. I never agreed to do that in-store, Rawkus set that up. And if it's a choice between doing an in-store and getting enough rest so that I can rock properly, I gotta take care of myself. If I don't rock, ya'll don't buy the records, and there is no in-store.

Now, I definitely said fuck 3rd Rail to myself, but I would never cast a public judgment on somebody. If I think he's a dick, it's not my job to try to make you think that. Obviously, he sees shit differently. Without EVER having a conversation with me about it, he decided to get back at me by writing about me on his website. The same way he did about What What and BadSeed (brooklyn MCs) when they canceled a show in Chicago because Seed was sick. Him and V-Funk dissed my record, said they are not playing my shit, and wrote fuck Kweli, fuck Hi-Tek, all over this ticket and in-store business.

People said I should not have dissed 3rd Rail on stage, but it was only in response to him dissing me on his website. Which is more public? This letter from V-Funk and 3rd Rail, this public display of assumption, ignorance and hate, is why I dissed 3rd Rail. That was some sensitive little bitch shit. Nigga sounding like a crying little girl because he can't get tickets, so he takes it out on me? Hi Tek really don't have anything to do with this, but he said fuck Hi Tek too? Hi Tek has the right to smack the shit out of him. 3rd Rail made a conscious decision to put himself out there, so I called him on it. His boys is mad at me because they have a bitch in they crew. Who is he to say that I don't care about my fans because I didn't come to his in-store? Fuck 3rd Rail! What kind of man acts like that? A bitch ass nigga! After I read that shit, I found out he was mad at Bahamadia for not getting him tickets for our show. You see ya'll this is something he does. He feels like since he plays our records, that we should be more grateful and be getting him into shows. When I come to Chicago, I have mad names on my guestlist ... MY PEOPLES NAMES. I don't know 3rd Rail like that. Y'all see a pattern with this guy?

For those of you that like and respect 3rd Rail, I'm sorry, but I call 'em like I see 'em. He's a bitch, no ifs ands or butts. Who is he to assume why I didn't make that in-store? I don't make records for 3rd Rail, I make them for myself and I share them with the world. The hard reality is, as a DJ, you don't owe me shit. As an MC, I don't owe you shit. If you play my record, I appreciate it. You don't have to play it. Out of the thousands of DJ's, why does 3rd Rail think he is special? What's wrong with him? Fan, artists, MC, DJ, whatever, if I want to see a show, I buy a ticket and I go. I took what he said about me personal. I did not respond over the Internet, I came to his city and responded on stage in front of his people. Contrary to what you may have read, if you were there, you know I still rocked that motherfucker. Chicago was live as usual and they gave it up for the truth. That night, when he gave his half ass one sided version of the story on his radio show, and his boys were makin idle, laughable threats, I called his show and told him why I thought he was a bitch. He couldn't really respond because I was dealing with facts and he was dealing with assumptions and his own insecurities about his place in hip-hop. If you don't believe me, get a tape of his show from that night and listen to how I told him about himself for almost an hour on his own show. It's ridiculous that I'm still responding to this, because my reasons have been very clear. Just because you are on the Internet does no give you the right to cast judgments on people. He did that. I checked him. These are the facts, it has nothing to do with hip-hop, it has to do with respect. I never told anyone to not do his show, I never said don't buy his mix tapes. He had a communication problem with someone at Rawkus and decides to put fuck Kweli and Hi-Tek on the Internet? This is the second time he's tried to get folks to boycott my music. He is trying to take food out of my babies mouths. NOW we have beef! If y'all wanna boycott me because I ain't make the fucking in-store and because Rawkus neglected 3rd Rail when they made their guestlist for some show, go ahead. But that makes you more of a bitch than he is, and real men know that this is a business, not to be taken personally. Telling people that I don't care about my fans and telling them not to buy my shit makes you my enemy. Anybody who's met me and been to my shows knows that I love and respect this culture. This will be my last response until I see 3rd Rail. One love to the real. Death to the Fake.

Talib Kweli

P.S. Somebody would boycott his punk ass if it was worth it, but it's not. He's fucking himself up.

Talib Kweli!
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Arnold:
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"Where is the NHK TV Camera? Hello Tokyo!" -- Piston Honda

"Its like a modern day slave trade but only it's mase from de la... and not kunta kinte.. and he's getting paid for it... and it's not picking cotton.. hell.. it's not like a modern day slave trade at all." -- Okayplayer Brainchild in regards to Maseo's EBay DJ lessons.

for setting it straight here, and for everything you've done for hip-hop music and the people who listen to it. We need more following your example.


Thank you, too, for your all of your invaluable help in building the Hip Hop Congress.

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http://www.hiphopcongress.com creepin up on ya....

bitch shit like this almost doesn't even need a response.

i was in chicago about 2 years ago.
dj 3rd rail is a big deal down in chicago.
but don't ever punk out for some dj that figures he'll diss u.

stay real bro


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Arnold:
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"This Means You and Copa Cabanga remix"
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jose3030@acuradriver.com

I hope that clears everything up for everyone.


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now imma read dis shit.....




"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

wait, is 'thirdly' a word??

hmm, I don't know.

I'm at confusion with certain ish I think are established words.

just like I thought 'branded' was a word.

...I don't know, blame the corona.

but yo, I'm at agreement with you kwa.

don't let that "good mourning" talk fool y'all, son'll get down for his!

The proof is in the pudding,
e-Factor

One man's simple is another man's huh—David Stone, 1979

I'm fucking a blind hermaphrodite icon and convincing you that its justice—El-P of Company Flow, 1999

I put my lifetime in between the paper's lines—Prodigy of Mobb Deep, 1999

Peace and love to all the zodiac signs—Zion of Zion I, 2000

Honestly, she looks like a Jewish concentration camp prisoner—babysa of okayplayer.com (on Erykah Badu), 2001

Everybody's time come to be embraced by the light, your only scared to die when you ain't living right man—Talib Kweli, 2000

>wait, is 'thirdly' a word??
>
>hmm, I don't know.
>
>I'm at confusion with certain ish
>I think are established words.
>
>
>just like I thought 'branded' was
>a word.
>
>...I don't know, blame the corona.
>
>
>but yo, I'm at agreement with
>you kwa.
>

One would be IN agreement, not AT agreement. Don't jone on another's grammar when yours is suspect.

"Where is the NHK TV Camera? Hello Tokyo!" -- Piston Honda

"Its like a modern day slave trade but only it's mase from de la... and not kunta kinte.. and he's getting paid for it... and it's not picking cotton.. hell.. it's not like a modern day slave trade at all." -- Okayplayer Brainchild in regards to Maseo's EBay DJ lessons.

Hehe, you got mad props for that reply.


-Ryan

"Police don't sweep to get the dust out
They want your name in the system,
I need to mention the death penalty is
legal lynchin
People listen, they got teenagers up in
the line up
To fill the new facility they built,
they need the crime up
Please, the war on drugs is really war
on the youth
War on the people
War on the truth
The violent crimes rise,
the silent dies as sirens cry through
the night
People fight for what's left and not
what's right"

-Talib Kweli

Talib
You are a fuckin punk ass. You are dissing 3rd and you dont know him.. I dont know you either but you dissed Chicago so I say FUCK YOU TALIB!!! I hope your career vanishes because you don't live up to what you say you are going to do and dissing a big ass city like Chicago shit.. thats just asking to have your shit drop from all the shelves in Chicago..HAHA The real heads will realize that you are the bitch and have no love for your fans.
The Real Steve Dave

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU A TRUE CRAB IN THE WORLD OF HIP-HOP....THE POST ABOVE MINE IS TRULY IDIOTIC AND MORONIC THAT IT'S ALMOST ONE OF THE FUNNIEST THINGS I HAVE EVER READ IN MY WHOLE LIFE....THIS IS JUST PROOF THAT EVEN BITCHES HAVE FOLLOWERS TOO! THINK ABOUT IT 3rd RAIL IS ONLY CITY-WIDE AND TALIB IS WORLD WIDE....THE GREAT ONES WILL NEVER VANISH! REMEMBER THAT TALIB WILL FOREVER BE A LEGEND....POTNA!!!

To be me is to be free/I do that Cre8ively/leavin fools in the dust/lettin 'em sit/like a car with no wheels and full of rust/you lost at yo own cost/i'm da boss/head hostess and keepin my focus/not gettin caught up in yo hocuspocus/that would have to capativate me/captivation has no room for the word FREE!!!!!

LOVELACE

this dude's a fool. i couldn't figure out where he thought talib was dissin' chicago.what an idiot.what posessed you to write that? talib's one of the best writers and performers we have today,and you're going to act like a herb because he's got beef with some bitch who has a radio show in your city? okayplayer.com's a ill site, but i knew it wouldn't be long before the busters showed up and started making noise....they always do. but the joke's on you, i bet being in your weak mind is hell and there's no saving you from that.

this random view askew quotation is just to remind people that jay & silent bob strike back is coming

august 10th

(did i just post-jack talib)

(shit)

fuck 3rd rail

(better)

sh:ock

...that was nice!! Hahahaha..."just cuz a guy reads comics you think he can't start some shit?!" LOL "That kid is back...on the escalator!!"


HUSSA

Well, glad you came on to explain your side of the story.

I hope you brothers work this out.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"I don't denounce writtens, but freestyling at its essence is improvising. It's spontaneous, uncut, mind, thought, travel, energy - all at the same time...the thing is to be at a peak where your freestyle sounds like your writtens and vice versa" - Aceyalone on freestyling (Rappages, Sept. 95)

>Well, glad you came on to
>explain your side of the
>story.
>
>I hope you brothers work this
>out.
>

yeah.

we don't need any more folks resorting to bs over some deverging.

too many brothers get caught up in that whirlwind.

its time to weather all that yo.

niggas getting all chinky over nothing. and something as petty as an invitation??

wtf man.

what type of sense does that make, right?

I think kwa honestly put his mark in on all this hoopla concerning the two of them, and I hope that 3rd rail does the same and the both of them can put all this behind them and keep it moving.

this whole invitation/in-store/shit talking/public retaliation thing is something I hope no other dj rings on to.

for 3rd rail to expect so much really says a lot about his persona.

and from what I understand, its pretty ugly.

peace though sprit.

Deep rooted,
e-Factor

Fuck platinum, I'm going diamond—Me, 2001

Honestly, she looks like a Jewish concentration camp prisoner—babysa of okayplayer.com (on Erykah Badu), 2001

Thanks for setting it straight.

Fuck 3rd Rail!

yo brandard no need to add
negativity



bitch

your side. it sucks that people are fueling this and gossiping aobut shit thats not even their business. the 'beef' wouldnt have escalated to this level if so called fans of you and third rail just let shit die.

its good to hear your side though. peace to you


******the sigs to end all sigs******

"You hold my heart like the night does the stars.I love you."

I love you too!!!!

5 Deadly Venom Spitters - No One is Safe
Especially your stupid ass, bee-otch!!!!

so called fans of talib and third rail didn't HAVE to go off on little known facts and spread the beef endlessly...
if you had been to the artist page...DJ3RDRAIL starting his posting frenzy on his website and on Okayplayer....and wouldn't let it die...talib showed more poise by just ending this shit simply. If you read the posts...surprisingly, 'fans' weren't really perpetuating much.

Much love,
Kyle

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between my legs baby...now dock that shit.
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man...who is talib ending it simply, calling him a bitch or whatever??? mik is right, hes basically stooping to his level.. he could have explained his shit and ended it. and unless 3rd rail is posting under about 10 different okp names...other people (presumably fans) are perpetuating i with posts, and talib fans are pushing them up with support.

i mean, dude was acting like a bitch,true, but as we all have learned, pests go away when you usually ignore them. talib knows hes in the right....so does 3rd rail and he obviously isnt going to change his mind, so if he feels like he does, hes going to keep on doing what hes doing until people stop listening and following.

and calling hima bitch isnt going to speed that up any.

It's kinda hard to let shit die when the two parties involved make it a public issue. I live in Chicago, but I'm not taking sides on the story. I didn't even know about the situation until I was at the Metro and Talib Kweli decided to make it a public issue by addressing it the way he did in front of all the people who were in there, many of who were just as surprised as I was.

Talib could have kept it to himself until he talked to 3rd Rail, but NOOOOOO, he had to call dude out and call him a bitch ass motherfucker, bitch ass nigga, bitch this, bitch that, talking about if he wants to take it somewhere, Talib is ready to go there with him.

Now, I am a huge fan of Talib Kweli. I don't know 3rd Rail, and if he walked past me on the street, I wouldn't even notice. But, the fact is, I didn't know about the situation until our favorite so called "conscious" rapper gets up on stage and starts sounding like your average thug-mafioso type. It was a very ugly side of Talib. And anybody who wasn't there really can't comment on it.

I can't comment on what 3rd Rail did, because I didn't witness it. What I witnessed was one of mny favorite rappers showing a side of himself that kinda went against everything I thought he represented. A side that was never reflected in any song that I heard or any interview that I've ever read. And anybody who wasn't there really can't comment on it.

Otherwise, it was a decent show that I enjoyed, but somehow there is still a sour taste in my mouth from the whole thing.

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I don't know anything about 3rd Rail or even who he is, and i don't shitlist folk i know nothing about, but sounds like he's making some bitch moves... I sure as hell ain't boycotting good shit cuz of beef regardless of who did what.

if his call for a boycott is having any effect, it's to let more people know who Talib Kweli and Hi-Tek are.

(Food outa my babies' mouths... Kweli should show Dre wtf that means)

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>if his call for a boycott
>is having any effect, it's
>to let more people know
>who Talib Kweli and Hi-Tek
>are.


Um... 3rd Rail is not exactly Eminem. If you've heard of DJ 3rd Rail, you've heard of Talib Kweli. Kweli isn't getting any mainstream publicity cuz of this.


-Ryan

"Police don't sweep to get the dust out
They want your name in the system,
I need to mention the death penalty is
legal lynchin
People listen, they got teenagers up in
the line up
To fill the new facility they built,
they need the crime up
Please, the war on drugs is really war
on the youth
War on the people
War on the truth
The violent crimes rise,
the silent dies as sirens cry through
the night
People fight for what's left and not
what's right"

-Talib Kweli

typical male with ego problem drama
guy thinks hes shafted cuz he thinks he deserves everything. becuase he still thinks like a 5 year old I want I want I want. Then goes on some fuck u im better than u shit cuz he thought u were on some holier than thou shit. All because his bitchass can't put 2 and 2 together since hes too busy trying to suck his own dick. damn i almost sound pissed.

-Contagious

honey you blew it, if my website, ain't on your favorites.

http://www.thejawn.com hiatus dec 4th 2000 - dec 8th 2000

"i can tell their looking at us" -d'angelo

he went runnin' off at the mouth to his cronies that "Yo, Im gonna get us all into the show because I have a big dick and the whole world knows it including Rawkus and I'm the fucking man...." and then his ass and his get-a-long-gang ended up out in the cold for two hours or some shit.....

BWWWAAHAHAHHAHAHHWWWAAHAHAHAHAH.....dont nobody owe you shit bro.....Im a college DJ too....and a pretty well respected one too to be honest......but Ive paid my dues and shit still happens that is out of my control.....so quit crying and retire or something.....and I read your little message board on your website and if you think your hot because you have a little groupie following....just remember that from the looks of their replies, I think they are all sharing about 5 brain cells......

one.

"Twenty five years ago, there were no rap records, no samples, and no break beats. Then came the Bronx boys--the original b-boys--a generation of young men from one of the most desolate urban landscapes in the 70's America. Within five years, they had created one of the world's most potent pop cultures...."

Im
>a college DJ too....and a
>pretty well respected one too
>to be honest......but Ive paid
>my dues


Yeah ok with that dj name you must play somme gay ass shit (DJFLYGEAR what the fuck is that)

anyway

Talib showed his true colors that night at the Metro( where more than 80 % of the krowd was there to see ms.Badu not talib {Yuppies}) I guess that's what u get from Mr. Conscious Hip-Hop.
What's this about takin food from yer babies mouths? pleez man you fuckin swear I mean you got yer fuckin tours here and international so you ain't gotta worry that is unless Rawkus like every other major label (yeah that's right rawkus ain't been undergroun for a minute ya know) and takin all yer money and givin you 10 cents a cd and 5 cents a tape. I hope yer consciouys ass didn't get dicked like that , I can see that rawkus does fuck people over in the way they handle the whole communication of this situation.

Personally I think that as far as the instore goes you should have went regardless of 3rd rail werkin there shit it ain't his store . You were talkin bout you did 2 other instores and you were tired and needed a nap man I've done show with the flu and I 'm the fuckin dj having to rock the party for 4 to 5 hours man shit an instore ain't shit but chillin . All you had to do was be the BIGGER MAN about this and do YOUR FANS the honor of signin some shit and lettin them meet you shit grab a fuckin red bull if yer so tired but that wasn't it it was just cuz of some little beef you and 3rd had and that ain't CONSCIOUS at all.

Anyway if you actually make some good music in the future I might consider buyin it and if your wak ass label actually puts out something descent for a change I might consider buyin that too.

Lyricist Lounge 2 highly anticipated Highly dissapoointing why the fuck wwas JT MONEY on there ????????

Well got that out of my system to every one that says fuck third SUCK a phat one wack emcee dickriders

Shit Talib, which is it, did you miss the instore because you were tired or because it was the store 3rd Rail worked at?

I would really recommed that you avoid going back to Chicago anytime soon -- you may find out what a bitch really is, since you won't squash it.

Is 3rd Rail a relative of yours?

Damn "what is hip hop if it doesn't have violence?"

New answer - Biggie and Pac would still be alive.

Talib didn't go b/c he was tired AND it was 3rd Rail's place of employment. Why overextend himself to do a favor for someone who disses him?

Seems like 3rd rail is just trying to get some notoriety here. Urging me to boycott b/c of your personal beef, nigro please.

Both of you should just squash that shit and stop the dick swinging pissing contest.

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>Is 3rd Rail a relative of
>yours?
Nope.

>Damn "what is hip hop if
>it doesn't have violence?"
>
>New answer - Biggie and Pac
>would still be alive.
3rd tried to squash it, but it seems Mr. Kweli does not want to.

>Talib didn't go b/c he was
>tired AND it was 3rd
>Rail's place of employment. Why
>overextend himself to do a
>favor for someone who disses
>him?
Favor?, Rawkus ask 3rd to do it.

>3rd tried to squash it, but
>it seems Mr. Kweli does
>not want to.

having read 3rd rail's posts--he seems to be saying "it's no big deal..." on one hand, but then brings up the idea of a boycotts and says that people can join in, but they don't have to--but if they don't, that they're not down with him...wtf is that?

and that's not just vouching for Kweli, that's genuine befuddlement on a cat who probably knows that this beef could put him in the spotlight more than it does for Talib.

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After reading this post and about 1/2 of the replies, I think Mosaic makes the best point. This muthafucka is trying to show Kweli how big his dick is and that shit is straight gay.

Boycott, WTF????

Boycott Cash Money Records & No Limit for consistently putting out brainless bullshit that goes nowhere like pork in ya intestines!!!

REAL Hip-Hop (RE:, Roots, etc. shit, you fill it in!) has a hard enough time surviving with the few DJ's across this country that play, support and promote it. Furthermore, if this cat (3rd Link, Rail whatever)is as heavy as niggas say he is (and in Chi-Town no less), he should KNOW that shit was business and not personal.

Being that I worked at a record store before, I know a little about how this game works. The artists themselves are usually not in control of when schedules are made, they get very little notice of events that they are to show up at and if they happen to get advance notice, nobody takes into account how many of those events were scheduled for that day or if they're tired or anything.

Even after Kweli goes on the cat's show to rap to him man-to man about the shit and clear it up, he still pulled bitch rank. Above all, that's the most fucked up thing right there.

All in all people, look at 3rd Rail and look at Kweli (& Hi-Tek):
These cats is doing what they love to do, they're hella good at it, and here this 3rd wheel nigga is trying to fuck up their program because he couldn't get a hookup. If I was where homeboy was and I couldn't get the hookup, I would've bought tickets and further more contacted Kweli (or tried) while he was in town to find out the deal.

Plain & simple, there was a better way to handle all phases of this shit and 3rd track took the low road.

He should change his to name to DJ Stan. It's eating him up that him & Kweli can't be together :-)

That's my 2cents.

gREG bASS (now known as datcatdeycalltREBLEFREE)
Former Questo-Endorsed Player Of The Week...




For the moment, the following is the greatest hook/rhyme/line ever written:


Don't everybody like the smell of gasoline?
Well burn muthafucka burn american dreams...
Don't everybody like the taste of apple pie?
Well snap for yo slice of life I'm tellin' you why....
I hear that Mother Nature's now on birth control....
The coldest pimp be lookin' for somebody to hold....
The highway up to Heaven got a crook on the toll...
Youth fulla fire ain't got nowhere to go, nowhere to go....
-Possum Alliwishes Jenkins aka Andre3000

>Boycott Cash Money Records & No
>Limit for consistently putting out
>brainless bullshit that goes nowhere
>like pork in ya intestines!!!

thank you.

>REAL Hip-Hop (RE:, Roots, etc. shit,
>you fill it in!) has
>a hard enough time surviving
>with the few DJ's across
>this country that play, support
>and promote it. Furthermore,
>if this cat (3rd Link,
>Rail whatever)is as heavy as
>niggas say he is (and
>in Chi-Town no less), he
>should KNOW that shit was
>business and not personal.

this is the line that got me. HE SHOULDA KNOWN IT WAS THE BIZ! SPEAK!



love and respect,
El Rey

My roots band: http://www.wemba-music.org

how I spit: http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/1308/1308180.html

http://www.mumia.org FREE MUMIA!
http://www.lpsg-co.org/ FREE LEONARD!

http://www.blackgrrrlrevolution.org
cuz yer either down with the revolution or not ...

Y'all can't have it both ways...

either an artists is responsible for his words & deeds or he isn't.

what's up with the double standards? Kweli can take control of his schedule, just like he can makes decisions on what type of music he chooses to make.

don't care about this beef, but the way people react & make excuses depending on who's being judged is amazing.

Carl"Maximus"Holmes
lit mo info and be decisive

To be me is to be free/I do that Cre8ively/leavin fools in the dust/lettin 'em sit/like a car with no wheels and full of rust/you lost at yo own cost/i'm da boss/head hostess and keepin my focus/not gettin caught up in yo hocuspocus/that would have to capativate me/captivation has no room for the word FREE!!!!!

LOVELACE

that was like ........so amazing to read....!!!!!

matter of fact...

imma stop writing so i can laugh.

whoo wee! that was cleveroscious!



"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

>whoo wee! that was cleveroscious!

Making up words...*shakes head*

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unga01

I don't have the stamina to hang wit you dudes. You tour, go to other Soul Aquarian show (Erykah)- two nights in a row, make up words, and post 3 times inthe top 100. Dude when do do sleep????

Speaking of sleep... I got work in the morning. Is Talib Sleep? Shiiiiit! I'm gon have to get me a Red Bull to do this on the reg.

Peace,
Mecca 2001 A.D.

"I'm thinkin', "I'm about to go out of my way for his in-store? Fuck That!" I turned the car around, said fuck 3rd Rail, took a nap and rocked my show..." ~~Talib Kweli 03/08/01

"no in fact, when growing up her parents instilled in her that love is black and only black. if u see white love anywhere, KILL IT!" ~~fire 2/19/01

"this just in!"
"Jill Scott went on the Morton Downey Jr Show and was asked what she thought about white people. She said, "I'd rather drown Ossie Davis in lighter fluid than have a white girl get her hole spackled by a brother to one of my songs!" ~~Mosaic 2/19/0

i am still in the eletric dungeon working on song number 32 (not complete, but demos before we start writing) for massa's "waterbaby" record.

i need some entertainment. cable got cut off in the studio.

anyone know who won sixers game tonight?




"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

hehe ...

love and respect,
El Rey

My roots band: http://www.wemba-music.org

how I spit: http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/1308/1308180.html

http://www.mumia.org FREE MUMIA!
http://www.lpsg-co.org/ FREE LEONARD!

http://www.blackgrrrlrevolution.org
cuz yer either down with the revolution or not ...

... ha.. ha

is that supposed to mean? who me?

oh wait... maybe if I would have followed the thread... my bad... I'm just so fucking tired. At this hour all of those little lines look like one giant line.

I know... then why don't I go to sleep... I'm afraid that if I close my eyes... I might miss something. :'(
Help me Uncle ?uest!!!! Please!!!!!!


Peace,
Mecca 2001 A.D.

"I'm thinkin', "I'm about to go out of my way for his in-store? Fuck That!" I turned the car around, said fuck 3rd Rail, took a nap and rocked my show..." ~~Talib Kweli 03/08/01

"no in fact, when growing up her parents instilled in her that love is black and only black. if u see white love anywhere, KILL IT!" ~~fire 2/19/01

"this just in!"
"Jill Scott went on the Morton Downey Jr Show and was asked what she thought about white people. She said, "I'd rather drown Ossie Davis in lighter fluid than have a white girl get her hole spackled by a brother to one of my songs!" ~~Mosaic 2/19/01

I guess it is hard to tell cuz so many other responses are there already.

Jay Smooth
WBAI 99.5 FM in NY
http://www.hiphopmusic.com

"A smile is the chosen vehicle for all ambiguities" - Herman Melville

It clearly said he was already tired but when he found out that it was Third Rail's store (a person who already dissed him twice) he decided not to go out of his way. I don't blame him. Do you break your neck for crab niggas?

Shut the hell up!

Talib Kweli is my hero!
--------------
wanna know what your girlfriend is doing when you're not around?

ooooh let me tell ya!

http://www.trickology.com

Obviously, this shit has you really pissed. But fuck a boycott, hope y'all niggas work this out, and holla at a nigga next time you come to NC.

....and in case you forgot, ALBUMS YOU NEED TO OWN:
1.Yahzarah- "Hear Me"
Debut album from one of Erykah Badu's bag ladies.
With beats by Eccentric and guest appearances by The Honorable T. Gravious.
Seekers of truth music....YOUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!
Coming March 2001 on KEO Music Recordings

2.Phonte-"Goddamn Paper In My Pocket"
Coming August 2001 on KEO Music Recordings....you BITCHES!!!
Featuring appearances by TJ Swan, Suga Free, Pimpin Ken, Bishop Don Magic Juan, and a remake of "The Real Slim Shady" featuring Whitefolks.

3.U.S.-"The Story of U.S."
The critically acclaimed and nationally renowned comedy CD
Rated @@@@1/2 by Viv Shocklee of the Jawn Squad and laughed at by Talib Kweli on Feb. 28 at around 12:52AM after his show in Carrboro (shameless plug...no, HOPELESS is more like it)
Available on Napster or for the low, low price of $10
Send mail order info to taygravy@hotmail.com

Note the post by talib and the various posts by third rail. Notice the punctuation, spelling and use of capitalization.
Notice a difference?
LOL



Peace,
Steve
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"I was born in the year 1972 / my mom said the planet ain't ready for you" - Black Thought

>Note the post by talib and
>the various posts by third
>rail. Notice the punctuation, spelling
>and use of capitalization.
>Notice a difference?
>LOL

let me try to figure out what your noticing.

Honestly,
e-Factor

Fuck platinum, I'm going diamond—Me, 2001

Needs to go back to grammar school!!

There/Their Here/Hear

I believe those are called homonyms, and he needs a real lesson on how to use them correctly!! Didn't we learn this in 3rd grade Mr. 3rd Rail?!?!?

}>

mdfaggarty


oops


guess us windy city ppl can't use proper
homonyms or correct spelling

don't twist it...


i'll say it again


talib and 3rd



both acting like


bitches


i didn't get tickets so i dissed him


oh when i found out it was his store
i turn around
(plz add girly voice to BOTH stmts please)

na'mean


xzibit got a song that i will snd out
to the both of yall



this DNA feat snoop

When y'all niggaz stop actin like bitches
bitches stop actin like niggaz we can all clock figures
Hoes on my dick, niggaz on my dick
They all on my dick, FUCK THAT SHIT!



choke on that slap nuts...

Eye sed that duud dont noe how too right!!!!!!!!

Bitch, don't get it twisted!!!

i nva sd you did dick for brains

i know you didn't dick for brains


i just happen to be from chi


so i made and analogy



crumb

You didn't make an analogy....

a·nal·o·gy

n. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar

Example: That spelling test was a bear!

Btw, How DID you know I have a dick for brains....Is that an analogy??? Naw....:)

TWIST THAT SHIT UP....LOL OR UN-TWIST IT... WHUTEVA. IT WAS JUST FUNNY...DUUD...NOE...RIGHT...THATS JUST COMEDY!!!

To be me is to be free/I do that Cre8ively/leavin fools in the dust/lettin 'em sit/like a car with no wheels and full of rust/you lost at yo own cost/i'm da boss/head hostess and keepin my focus/not gettin caught up in yo hocuspocus/that would have to capativate me/captivation has no room for the word FREE!!!!!

LOVELACE

Carl"Maximus"Holmes
we got to hold brothas accountable for the words action they take so 3rd rail should have not had runs of the mouth. and he should have expected a response from Talib. Talib is playin it cool.

third rail is not a brother, in case you didnt know.

"PUSH THE CULTURE"

ONE

>Needs to go back to grammar
>school!!
>
>There/Their Here/Hear
>
>I believe those are called homonyms,

the above words are not homonyms. If you don't know what a "homonym" is, be wary before questioning the grammar of others.

>and he needs a real
>lesson on how to use
>them correctly!! Didn't we
>learn this in 3rd grade
>Mr. 3rd Rail?!?!?

I learned what a homonym was in third grade. The antonym of homonym is antonym. ;-)

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"I don't denounce writtens, but freestyling at its essence is improvising. It's spontaneous, uncut, mind, thought, travel, energy - all at the same time...the thing is to be at a peak where your freestyle sounds like your writtens and vice versa" - Aceyalone on freestyling (Rappages, Sept. 95)

Maybe you need to be wary before you start calling out my grammar corrections!!! :)

I do have an English Degree, therefore, I could be considered an expert on the matter.....Here are the two options we have for words like here/hear and there/their....Have a nice day!

hom·o·nym
n. One of two or more words that have the same sound and often the same spelling but differ in meaning.

hom·o·phone
n. One of two or more words, such as night and knight, that are pronounced the same but differ in meaning, origin, and sometimes spelling.

The antonym of homonym is antonym. ;)

You're wrong!!!

The antonym of synonym is antonym!!!!

antonym: a word of opposite meaning

synonym: one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses

well, you're right and I'm wrong. whoops! i apologize for questioning your grammar mastery.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"I don't denounce writtens, but freestyling at its essence is improvising. It's spontaneous, uncut, mind, thought, travel, energy - all at the same time...the thing is to be at a peak where your freestyle sounds like your writtens and vice versa" - Aceyalone on freestyling (Rappages, Sept. 95)

the antonym of homonym is unmeaningness...
can you feel it?

I was thinking the same shit..


"the Haterade pitcher should be empty by now"

*******and dat's all I got to say bout dat******

too bad bitch ass motherfuckers ain't gonna let petty shit like this "beef" slide yo!

Peace2U,
Ré Alief ~~~> part-time poster

"it feels good to feel good" - Sugah
http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli


http://hiphopmusic.com/index2.html
http:/www.TankGreen.com
http://cubiclegirl.diaryland.com/010121_71.html
http://hiphop.thatbitch.com/
http://www.blackbutterfly.net/everclear
http://www.recordkingdom.com

if only i kept the message that i wrote here. no need though prolly just make things worse instead of better.

-Contagious

Bitching about not getting free tickets is petty shit. But trying to get Kweli's album boycotted is pretty damn serious.

this is wild long and i got add...

but this line was funny...

"Hi Tek has the right to smack the shit out of him."

bottom line is that this is only doing what 3rd rail wanted it to do, it's getting him notoriety... i'd never heard of him and now i have. never been to his site, now i have....

oh well.

you keep doing it and I'll keep buying it.
peace
----------------------------------------
"we put language in zoos to observe caged thought and toss peanuts and p funk at intellect. and motherfuckers think these are metaphors, i speak what i see, all words and worlds are metaphors of me" -saul williams
----------------------------------------

this has to be one of the most thorough run downs of beefs that i've ever seen. when i get large and people want to have static with me, i hope i have as good a memory...noonch.

|peace.|mosaic|aim:treisdeuce|cruciverbalist|wst.phx|keepitsurreal|
--muddy.angel.syntactics--point.blank.bullettime--sleight.of.hand--

This seems more logical

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i go away and play some Madden, and I come back and see this?

whoa .. nice response. appreciate the clarification - rumors and assumptions are a bitch, and i guess they are what got this whole situation started in the first place

-zero¹

ba da boom
--------------
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ooooh let me tell ya!

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thanks for clearing this up...
We appreciate you.




"Thank you all for comin' out-
God Bless and goodnight"


R.
Peace

duke seems like a straight up bitch to me yo! After reading his comments at his board, he goes out of his way and airs beef about some petty bs and then asks for said beef to be squashed? (http://pub19.ezboard.com/fdj3rdrailgeneraldiscussion.showMessage?topicID=688.topic) Crying cuz heads didn't jump to his defense and shit! What a fucking pussy!! Why is he bringing Chicago into it? WHAT!? He's the fucking king of Chi town or something? LOL If you got beef, you got beef, stop being a bitch by playing yourself by asking your "fans" to join in your silly lil bitch fest! "OHHH, he dissed our city, no more records bought by me! Y'all wit me...right??" He dissied YOU, not Chicago. Maybe if you had been man enough to reach out to him, one on one and not via the web or radio, shit would be squashed by now...YA HERB!

Peace2U,
Ré Alief ~~~> part-time poster

"it feels good to feel good" - Sugah
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http://hiphopmusic.com/index2.html
http:/www.TankGreen.com
http://cubiclegirl.diaryland.com/010121_71.html
http://hiphop.thatbitch.com/
http://www.blackbutterfly.net/everclear
http://www.recordkingdom.com

Give Sugah a hug and a kiss for me

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I'll tell Sugah U said what's up yo.

DAMN, I miss the days when heads got together and just built/partied/chilled/whatever...fuck "beef"

Peace2U,
Ré Alief ~~~> part-time poster

"it feels good to feel good" - Sugah
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http://hiphopmusic.com/index2.html
http:/www.TankGreen.com
http://cubiclegirl.diaryland.com/010121_71.html
http://hiphop.thatbitch.com/
http://www.blackbutterfly.net/everclear
http://www.recordkingdom.com

"You are a retard, but your fucking followers are bigger retards. Why hate a man because he has problems with someone you like? Why hate his superb music, his album is spectacular, there's no reason to have to forget about it. You don't have to grab 3rd's dick (No disrespect) do what you like! Why don't you try to figure the situation better, don't jump to conclusion, or better yet, FUCK THE SITUATION!

Kweli is a gem, and to not like him because of this situation is "FUCKING GAY".

PEaCE. "

3rd rail replied like 50 ties to this one post!

on okayplayer if you diss the artist their not gonna waste their time with you, this dudes gotta get back to work cuz hes got WAY too much free time.

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
- Hectik One out the F.E.C

Fourth Element Crew comin' to a town near you
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

backpackers are people too - me

"lick you like a lizard when im slizzard/ or so-ber/ six million ways to fold ya/ like noah/ i get twos of of you and you get PRETTY D" - big boi

"i feel like selena/ the president of my fan club wants to kill me" - el-p

Do it up FUNKY - me (and a whole lotta other people)
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

ELLAVA PANTA RE MALAKA!!! PONTOS!!! KOMNIMA!!! (greeks know)

was priceless.


"Where is the NHK TV Camera? Hello Tokyo!" -- Piston Honda

"Its like a modern day slave trade but only it's mase from de la... and not kunta kinte.. and he's getting paid for it... and it's not picking cotton.. hell.. it's not like a modern day slave trade at all." -- Okayplayer Brainchild in regards to Maseo's EBay DJ lessons.

I just hope no 3rd Rail, nor Kweli fan takes it on him/her to do some stupid shit now cos they feel their hero has been dissed.

Wouldn't be the first time ...



krewc
HOME : http://www.vinylators.com

which is why i held back on another reply i knew someone would have taken it out of context and it would lead to more ish when it wasnt meant to.

-Contagious

honey you blew it, if my website, ain't on your favorites.

http://www.thejawn.com hiatus dec 4th 2000 - dec 8th 2000

"i can tell their looking at us" -d'angelo

An hour after the fact and tensions are still high!

Yo Kwa... it's good you got to vent, but I hardly think this 4Trail cat is worth so many words.

Baby... rest your fingers and rest your head. It's gon' be alright.

Peace,
Mecca 2001 A.D.

"I'm thinkin', "I'm about to go out of my way for his in-store? Fuck That!" I turned the car around, said fuck 3rd Rail, took a nap and rocked my show..." ~~Talib Kweli 03/08/01

"no in fact, when growing up her parents instilled in her that love is black and only black. if u see white love anywhere, KILL IT!" ~~fire 2/19/01

"this just in!"
"Jill Scott went on the Morton Downey Jr Show and was asked what she thought about white people. She said, "I'd rather drown Ossie Davis in lighter fluid than have a white girl get her hole spackled by a brother to one of my songs!" ~~Mosaic 2/19/01

First things first, I love the music Talib Kweli and Hi-Tek create. Simply beautiful.

3rd Rail used to be one of my favorite DJ's, but not because of what transpired with him and Talib. Here is why. I go to the University of Illinois at Chicago and live in the dorms. I have been able to catch 3rd Rail's shows on WCRX since '97 (pre-Internet transmission days), since the radio station he is on is down the street from my school. You can only reach the show if you are in the vicinity or driving around in your car. I've tried both. He used to play the dopeness and hip me to some new stuff. I would listen every Thursday while finishing my Accounting homework that would last the whole show. But now he talks for like half the 3 hour show and plays the same material everyweek. He alsways brags about the show being live, which is cool and often disses WGCI. He mixes pretty well, the blends are on. When he tries to do tricks, it is a different story. The man can't juggle. I respect that he tries, but dude needs practice, AT HOME. God forbid someone say that he isn't good at it, then he might erupt and spend the whole show dissing the caller for his constructive criticism. 3rd Rail's ego has gotten way to big. He always brags how he got back from Tokyo, New York, Canada or somewhere else collecting records for his mixtpaes. I congratulate the fact he has put out 35 editions of the "Subway Hip Hop" mixtape, but who cares. Quit bragging like the crap is groundbreaking, I've heard better blends and play selection. Always bragging about being in the subway tunnels the past weekend. Grow up man. Aren't graffiti artists supposed to remain unknown? That's the mystery and appreciation for the art. Everytime I see a piece, I'm like, "That's dope, who did that?" You never want to know, you just admire the artwork. 3rd Rail is always commenting how he ducked the transit police. Calm down, dude. It's not that serious. Just play the records!

I used to go to his functions. I remember he had one back in like '97 when he had Defari. It was in the basement of the IIT campus. Defari wrecked it. He put me on to Defari, but he acts like he is responsible for Defari blowing up or something, always reflecting on that accomplishment. Fact of the matter, I would have heard of Defari if 3rd rail never played him. He had a video on BET for God sakes. I just would never have heard of him the Year before his video came out. I stay connected and probably would have heard some of Defari's stuff on the internet somewhere.

My point being that 3rd Rail has lost touch with reality, just a bit. Homie needs a reality check like finally graduating from Columbia College instead of paying for semesters just to have a radio show (WCRX). Cache 22 is better than him and his show got moved form the time slot before 3rd Rail's. Cache 22 should have gotten his spot.

No disrespect...

A former fan,
Martian


"Logos backwards please" - Evidence

Homie
>needs a reality check like
>finally graduating from Columbia College
>instead of paying for semesters
>just to have a radio
>show (WCRX).

This is funny.

*****************************************************************
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you're being upset, and I think it was mature, and good of you to set the record straight...you really didn't have to but you did, and that's greatly appreciated....now, I have no idea who 3rd rail is, I never heard about any of the stuff you've mentioned here, but I'm sure for the people that do have insight, this post gives them a great deal of clarification...but....you put the brother on blast, and that wasn't necessary...you've stooped to his level, and now the cycle will continue another round...now that you've put your piece out there, hopefully you'll be able to look past whatever else he may have to say, and live for you...like you said, the two of you don't owe eachother anything, and I'm sure that when he didn't get into the rawkus show, he was upset, and being spiteful to you was his way satisfying his own needs....and you're not doing the instore not only allowed you to get more rest, but in a way it allowed you to get back at him for his prior selfishness...whatever...you're a man, so just let it go...hopefully he will too...

Good of you to explain all this. It's important of you to let your version known. Unfortunately, people will blindly follow 3rd Rail as it seems like he's influential in Chicago. In the meanwhile, make sure you keep doing your thing, in Chicago and elsewhere, and sales will continue.

True heads will judge you by your talent, not by some hear-say. Your talent is evident, continue to spread yourself and your work, and all will fall into place.

In the meanwhile, let not your heart be troubled.

Kamil


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Talib is down. Whatever happened there happened, but that was cool he came on and took the time to write that, on tour, and say whats up with a random ass dj. Chicago isnt the world, and 3rd Rail isnt Chicago. Fuck it. Too bad Kweli had to waste time and energy with this, but hey, I guess it just helps you see where all things stand. Now we all know theres some bi-otch in Chicago trying to get free publicity out of HECKLING the real deal. Lame. Short cuts dont work. Keep it real Kweli, and keep spreading peace.

Its spreading to artist too? I want my royalty check damnit!


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Let me say this first, so that y'all don't jump all over me. I think the beef if definitely two-sided. It is needless and could be easily squashed. And overall, I can't believe that y'all would take such a one-sided stance on the beef.

Some misconceptions:

1. First of all, almost all of y'all, except for cisceOne, know nothing about the man. As a DJ, he is very talented and influential. You guys wouldn't know that though because he isn't from NY or on DFX. He has independently released 36 mix-tapes. His blends are perfect. I have seen the man blend 2 jazz records, 2 house records, 2 whatever with ease.
Secondly, i doubt any of y'all know him on a personal level. While I think he would even admit some stubbornness, 3rd is as nice a guy as you'll meet and pales in comparison to many of the primadonnas who have DJed 10+ years. Being new and young in the Chicago scene, 3rd has shown me love and has been always willing to help. He always reciprocates the actions given to him. Love is love.

2. You don't see any hipocrisy in the arguments? Because 3rd calls out Kweli on a message board that 15 people post on, Kweli is justified to call him out in front of 900 people at the Metro?

3. How many of y'all have heard the phone conversation between Kweli and 3rd on his show? This was a full-fledged tirade. 3rd put on Talib with the full intention of squashing beef. 3rd Rail could not get 10 words into the conversation. If Kweli really wanted to squash, 3rd was willing to admit some wrongdoing, if he was given the small opportunity.

4. To the cat who commented on 3rd grammar and writing in comparison to 3rd, that is just some ignorant bullshit. That really has nothing at all to do with intelligence. As many extremely intelligent people are illiterate due to language barriers, etc.

5. People who mention Kweli's talent are absoulutely right. The man is talented. I was always a fan of his older material. Still, practice what you preach. I remember you saying on stage, "I'd like to see 3rd Rail come down here and say that", or some thing to that effect. Then what? So y'all can have a fist fight? That's gonna do alot of good. Why not squash it? Obviously, this beef isn't gonna hurt Kweli that much. He is gonna sell tons of units as long as his music stays on point. There is something to be said, though, about someone who preaches positivity and pacifism and then unleashes a 20 minutes tirade on the phone over a fairly small beef.

I know this looks like a one-sided argument. I do this only because the rest of the board seems to be holding up the other side pretty well. I can't believe how readily most of the posters here believe that this beef is 100% in one direction. Life is filled with shades of gray. I would recommend that alot of y'all brush up on some facts before you take your hero's word as truth.

If Kweli told y'all that he had beef with Common or D'Angelo or Questlove, would you take his word 100% or listen to their argument too.

>Some misconceptions:
>1.>As a DJ, he is
>very talented and influential. You
*snip*

this is kinda irrelevant to the matter at hand, though. talent has nothing to with beef--MC Hammer had plenty of beef.

>even admit some stubbornness, 3rd
>is as nice a guy
>as you'll meet

also, irrelevant to a point.

>2. You don't see any hipocrisy
>in the arguments? Because 3rd
>calls out Kweli on a
>message board that 15 people
>post on, Kweli is justified
>to call him out in
>front of 900 people at
>the Metro?

interesting point.

>the conversation. If Kweli really
>wanted to squash, 3rd was
>willing to admit some wrongdoing,
>if he was given the
>small opportunity.

i can see what you were saying..but if he were willing to admit wrong doing, wouldn't he have done it prior to that--or even now?...regardless, if someone treats you like a dick, if there's wrongdoing onyour side, you should admit it.

>As many extremely intelligent people
>are illiterate due to language
>barriers, etc.

damn 3rd Rail--he called you illiterate. i wouldn't take that if i were you--boycott that fool!

>Why not squash it? Obviously,

couldn't 3rd Rail squash it just as easily?

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3rd Rail tried to squash it by reaching out to Rawkus on their site, but nothing. Before that he even put Talib on the air to settle all this bullshit, but Talib used 20min of airtime to cuss and diss without trying to squash it. Now that Talib is like bitch this and bitch that...I dunno.

None of this shit was public until the stage inicident, then it blew up. Talib's management HAS 3rd Rail's phone number, because they called him to do the instore.

Looks like Rawkus and Talib don't want this to end on a positive note?

where's my car?

your logic only works in computer animated cartoons and the like.

>3rd Rail tried to squash it
>by reaching out to Rawkus
>on their site, but nothing.

what? why would you go to the Rawkus website to contact an artist? the cats popping timecards for html and the like aren't gonna get a hold of him...another point coming up, though.

>Before that he even
>put Talib on the air
>to settle all this bullshit,
>but Talib used 20min of
>airtime to cuss and diss
>without trying to squash it.

i don't think Talib is absolved from anything, but part of the problem seems to be that 3rd Rail assumed that Talib was gonna take shit sitting down just 'cause he's not talking obsessively about gunplay--it reminds me of when apparently cats tried to punk De La just 'cause they weren't 'gangsta'...

> Now that Talib is
>like bitch this and bitch
>that...I dunno.
>None of this shit was public
>until the stage inicident, then
>it blew up. Talib's
>management HAS 3rd Rail's phone
>number, because they called him
>to do the instore.

then doesn't 3rd Rail have Talib's management's number, too? or if not, if 3rd Rail is big willied enough to try to pull a Chi-town boycott, can't he figure out a way to contact Talib?

>Looks like Rawkus and Talib don't
>want this to end on
>a positive note?

well, whatever the case is it mostly seemed to stem from 3rd Rail's disappointment over not getting a ticket to a show...he may claim that it's the principle of the thing, and that it needed to be done to show appreciation...but c'mon now.

on the other side of things, the on-stage diss seems like an extreme or at least unneeded element--i think most cats would've just ignored shit and for some reason, Talib felt that he needed to speak on it...

>--it
>reminds me of when apparently
>cats tried to punk De
>La just 'cause they weren't
>'gangsta'...

Pease Porridge has been playing in my head whenever I read this thread.


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>3rd Rail tried to squash it
>by reaching out to Rawkus
>on their site, but nothing.

Yeah man, I know what you mean. Like one time I left D'angelo a personal message right there in his guestbook! And he never answered me!! He has no respect, yo, we should boycott that fool.


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>Let me say this first, so that y'all don't jump all over me. I think the beef if definitely two-sided. It is needless and could be easily squashed. And overall, I can't believe that y'all would take such a one-sided stance on the beef."
True, this has got to stop!

"Some misconceptions:
1.As a DJ, he is very talented and influential. You guys wouldn't know that though because he isn't from NY or on DFX."
What does being fromNY have to do with anything? Maybe U need 2 look @ profiles, a bunch of non NY heads have posted to this thread as well!

"He has independently released 36 mix-tapes. His blends are perfect. I have seen the man blend 2 jazz records, 2 house records, 2 whatever with ease."
From what little I've heard thus far, duke's ok, but his blending is not perfect IMO and he talks too much for a non-commercial dj.

"Secondly, i doubt any of y'all know him on a personal level.
While I think he would even admit some stubbornness,"
Some?? He's the one constantly posting this "more than a week after the fact" (his words)makes it look like he's trying to garner as much attention to himself as possible.

"Being new and young in the Chicago scene, 3rd has shown me love
and has been always willing to help. He always reciprocates the actions given to him."
It appears that you're letting your "friendship(?) get in the way of your judgement?! You have to admit that he is a little jaded by a perceived diss?

2. You don't see any hipocrisy in the arguments?"
Yeah, on both sides!!

"Because 3rd calls out Kweli on a message board that 15 people
post on, Kweli is justified to call him out in front of 900 people at the Metro?"
Hey, you man enough to air your beef on the net (that has the potential to reach "thousands" {his words again} of people)you should be man enough to deal with the consequences! He could have easily contacted Talib/his manager and settled this "beef" yo!

"3. How many of y'all have heard the phone conversation between
Kweli and 3rd on his show? This was a full-fledged tirade. 3rd put on Talib with the full intention of squashing beef. 3rd Rail could not get 10 words into the conversation. If Kweli really wanted to squash, 3rd was willing to admit some wrongdoing, if he was given the small opportunity."
The phone thing was after the fact! You can't really expect TK to be cordial after he felt that he was being shitted on! Like I said before, he could of handled things better on his end (just as much as TK could have too!)

"4. To the cat who commented on 3rd grammar and writing in comparison to 3rd, that is just some ignorant bullshit. That really has nothing at all to do with intelligence. As many extremely intelligent people are illiterate due to language
barriers, etc."
Word!

"5. People who mention Kweli's talent are absoulutely right. The man is talented. I was always a fan of his older material. Still, practice what you preach. I remember you saying on stage, "I'd like to see 3rd Rail come down here and say that", or some thing to that effect. Then what? So y'all can have a fist fight? That's gonna do alot of good."
Just because an individual is talented doesn't make him some kind of superior being! He has feelings just like any one else and is likely to let emotions take over.

"Why not squash it? Obviously, this beef isn't gonna hurt Kweli that much. He is gonna sell tons of units as long as his music stays on point. There is something to be said, though, about someone who preaches positivity and pacifism and then unleashes
a 20 minutes tirade on the phone over a fairly small beef."
Why not ask 3rd why didn't he make a genuine attempt to squash the beef instead of going on the air/online? He ebenifits from all the publicity. Another thing, he brought the whole "TK's dissing Chicago" into this un-called for "beef" IMO!

"I would recommend that alot of y'all brush up on some facts
before you take your hero's word as truth."
People with glass houses...It seems like you should take your own advice! How many heads were talking about boycotting TK based on what he was supposed to have done?

"If Kweli told y'all that he had beef with Common or D'Angelo or Questlove, would you take his word 100% or listen to their argument too."
I can only speak for myself: I waited for TK's response and made an opinion based of what's presented before me. 3rd seems a little big headed cuz of some diss. He needs to get over it and keep doing what's made him a well known person. I also feel that your relationship with 3rd has clouded your judgement somewhat. Would you be defending him if he hadn't shown you love?

I'd love for this thing to be over, but 3rd posting this shit over and over on his site ain't helping matters not one lil bit!

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do you really think 3rd Rail benefits from _this kind_ of publicity? judging from this board, a lot of people who never knew him before now have animosity towards the guy. I can't see how he's gaining anything from this. and i seriously doubt he sat at home and said "How can I get fame? I know, I'll get into a beef with a guy who is pretty much universally known as a peaceful cat, who isn't really super popular, and then I'll ride that into fame and fortune." Huh?

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That shits risiculous, dude. This is hip hop and cats get called out when they do fukked up ish...case closed. How can you say Kweli is being hypocritical by callin him out on stage? Kwelei is a battle emcee!!! that's what emcees do!!! DAMN! Cats need to qtop with that "he's supposed to be positive" babble. In the hip hop I grew up on "sometimes you gotta be disrespected an thrown out the exit to get the message" as kweli said. Get the fukk over it.


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>That shits risiculous, dude. This
>is hip hop and cats
>get called out when they
>do fukked up ish...case closed.
> How can you say
>Kweli is being hypocritical by
>callin him out on stage?
> Kwelei is a battle
>emcee!!! that's what emcees
>do!!! DAMN! Cats
>need to qtop with that
>"he's supposed to be positive"
>babble. In the hip
>hop I grew up on
>"sometimes you gotta be disrespected
>an thrown out the exit
>to get the message" as
>kweli said. Get the
>fukk over it.

Just like when KRS-One threw the fat guy from PM Dawn off of a stage. Yeah KRS was/is all about "Stop the Violence" and what not, but this is still Hip Hop. If you disrespect someone, you get delt with. And I'm not by any means saying this situation should resort to violence, but 3rd dissed Talib and Talib brought the beef right back to him.
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>4. To the cat who commented
>on 3rd grammar and writing
>in comparison to 3rd, that
>is just some ignorant bullshit.
>That really has nothing at
>all to do with intelligence.
>As many extremely intelligent people
>are illiterate due to language
>barriers, etc.
>

Christ..I was joking.

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"4. To the cat who commented on 3rd grammar and writing in comparison to 3rd, that is just some ignorant bullshit. That really has nothing at all to do with intelligence. As many extremely intelligent people are illiterate due to language barriers, etc." - kevduce

This cat has his own website and if my eyes don't mistake me it is written in english. Now you're going to tell me he shouldn't use proper grammar when addressing fans. Are we illiterate, are we not able to understand regular english? Is that a diss, shit I better boycott. There you go 3rdrail keep on keeping it "Prankster"

Kweli much love, do your thing and you have my support.

psychokinetic AKA the dark lotus



"she lived form nigga to colored to negro to black to afro then african-american and right back to nigga, you figure she'd be bitter in her twilight but she aight cause she seen the circle of life" - talib kweli

maybe I'll just buy a few more copies and hand them out as gifts to even out the 15 people that won't buy it in Chi-town...

It's ridiculous that
>I'm still responding to this,
>because my reasons have been
>very clear. Just because
>you are on the Internet
>does no give you the
>right to cast judgments on
>people. He did that.
> I checked him.

Sounds fair to me... I cant stand radio DJ's anyways, theyre such hot shit in their minds, they dont realize theyre in a small pond. Primadonna asses...



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this post is guaranteed to go platinum maybe even double. Boycotting an album simply because you were not offered tickets...now that's kindergarten.

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First off... I'm from The "D" and I don't know who 3rd Rail really is. But he must be important in Chi. Why would he do something like that? Shit, I'm mad cause my ass bought tickets and still couldn't go. ( I was sick ) ::shakin my head:: Nigga's just don't know how good they got it.

Talib it's to late to boycott you I already copped it! :) Don't let them upset you!

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thats crazy dumb!
im not from chi and i have no idea who 3rd rail is and dont care i never met him but from your version of the story he is a bitch.
I have met and spoke to you at a show you are very genuine in your appraoch to your fan base. As far as dude not gettin tickets to a show i wonder was it a problem to by a fuckin ticket? could he not afford it?
Reflection Eternal have a great album and i dont think a 3rd rail character is gonna affect that. also that takin food from the babies mouths is grounds for beat down!
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Nuwb or "blackness" is supreme balance before the chaos was introduced. It was a state of sound, right reasoning. That darkness was triple darkness, which is what you would call the absence of consciousness, or the state of being awoke. In actuality, the dream state is more real and peaceful than the chaos you meet once you are awake. A form of spiritual darkness responsible for the spark that turned on the light that is the life and intellect of all who breathe and think.
When the light is turned on again, the chaos begins. The differentiation begins. The separation begins. The rights and the wrongs, the goodness and the badness; the supreme balance is broken and the ego begins to verse the "I."

Tickets? My view is the respect of saying, hey...thanks for letting ME do the interview on YOUR show..thanks for playing MY records in YOUR city..thanks for YOUR support in getting ME fans..thanks for YOUR efforts in setting up and instore promotion for ME...here are some tickets/t-shirts/cd's (or whatever) to do what you want to with. Does this mean 3rd would use this stuff himself or give them to friends..don't know. It's his show, he puts in the work so he could wipe his ass with them..who cares.

But my point is..where is the reciprication(sp?)?? In my years I have learned that you don't get something for nothing...college DJ's MAKE these underground artists popular by playing their songs. The issue is NOT the tickets per se', but the principle.

yeah but why thorw a tantrum and slander an artist cuz you aint get a ticket to one show? or he didnt make an appearance after you publicly said "fuck him"?
I'm tellin you i unnastand that i was at the instores with common in philly and it is hard and tiring and we was late to a few of them and through alla dat you hungry and tired and then you find out you gotta go to some bwoys store who said "fuck you" you think the effort level to get there is not going to be in question?
and as far as the fans go if they took it personal then they need to stop the idol worship mother fuggin artist eat sleep shit just like us and just cuz you like them and support them dont mean they have an obligation to you as an individual.
so if folks are hurt from waiting at the store need to unnastan why also.
As i said i spoke from my own experience with artist from this site and else where and i have never ran into an asshole artist they meet and greet there fans Talib meets and greet his fans and will smile laff and joke too but 3rd rail aint GOD over Talib and Hi teks career and if he dont play they shit so be it hell they dont play Talib on the radio in philly but mad people got the CD so it is a means of getting sales bsides on fuggin DJ in Chi.
And all these Chi town cats talkin bout 3rd rail like he they fuggin brother or cousin he wasnt takin none of them to the damn show with him.



"Ill cold cut that ass if you dont gimme my sammich!!!" RemyMartin


Nuwb or "blackness" is supreme balance before the chaos was introduced. It was a state of sound, right reasoning. That darkness was triple darkness, which is what you would call the absence of consciousness, or the state of being awoke. In actuality, the dream state is more real and peaceful than the chaos you meet once you are awake. A form of spiritual darkness responsible for the spark that turned on the light that is the life and intellect of all who breathe and think.
When the light is turned on again, the chaos begins. The differentiation begins. The separation begins. The rights and the wrongs, the goodness and the badness; the supreme balance is broken and the ego begins to verse the "I."

My view is the respect
>of saying, hey...thanks for letting
>ME do the interview on
>YOUR show..thanks for playing MY
>records in YOUR city..thanks for
>YOUR support in getting ME
>fans..thanks for YOUR efforts in
>setting up and instore promotion
>for ME...here are some tickets/t-shirts/cd's
>(or whatever) to do what
>you want to with.

i see your point mad. and payolla does make the world go round. (trust me....you thought that "you got me" was just a sign of fan affection? nope. appreciation dollars went into that bitch, right there.

but the point you are making is similar to saying that if i date a jawn and she's wearing some braxton grammy shit, then i --as escort-- have a right to violate her cause "she was throwin me rhythm".....well lemme try another way...

sure there are alot of goodies and perks for me in this business. moneywise, opportunity wise, socialwise...but i do what i do for the love of it. i post here 24-7 cause i love it. and i don't expect nothing in return. and when u get to the point where you start expecting things....this is where you get bitter.

and this seems to be the problem. i'm sure 3rd rail has love (so i hope) for the roots. but i have no emotional connection to him. i'm not from the crib, so i wouldn't necessasrily feel the need to go over the top. unless it's a planned event. then of course i would cooperate. but i feel rail is coming from the stance of how fans approach celebs.....(not saying he's a fan) but sometimes people feel an emotional connection and get dissapointed when the celeb dosn't make it a mutual thing. i felt that way when i saw stevie wonder some time back. here is a man who "raised" me and when meeting him. it was anit climatic. he didn't know me from a can of paint. i could say "hey steve. talk to me!!! lemme drum for you, i've supported you since 1972!!!!!!"

steve don't know me.


now in case rail reads this and gets mad cause he thinks i called him a "fan". i didn't. i just used the best example of human letdown i know. of course someone has to be the bigger man and say "my bad". clearly there was a misunderstanding. but mad....my point was that i feel as though if rail is a true artist. he will dj the dope shit, and not feel the need for any type of reward for his countinued support.

i drum for the love first.
all else second.






Does
>this mean 3rd would use
>this stuff himself or give
>them to friends..don't know. It's
>his show, he puts in
>the work so he could
>wipe his ass with them..who
>cares.
>
>But my point is..where is the
>reciprication(sp?)?? In my years I
>have learned that you don't
>get something for nothing...college DJ's
>MAKE these underground artists popular
>by playing their songs. The
>issue is NOT the tickets
>per se', but the principle.
>


"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

"Ill cold cut that ass if you dont gimme my sammich!!!" RemyMartin


Nuwb or "blackness" is supreme balance before the chaos was introduced. It was a state of sound, right reasoning. That darkness was triple darkness, which is what you would call the absence of consciousness, or the state of being awoke. In actuality, the dream state is more real and peaceful than the chaos you meet once you are awake. A form of spiritual darkness responsible for the spark that turned on the light that is the life and intellect of all who breathe and think.
When the light is turned on again, the chaos begins. The differentiation begins. The separation begins. The rights and the wrongs, the goodness and the badness; the supreme balance is broken and the ego begins to verse the "I."

DJ for the love...NOT one ticket from a artist you didn't grow up with from day one or sumptin


Much love,
Kyle

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between my legs baby...now dock that shit.
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Now that's the real. Cats that dont play joints because they didnt get enough percs (or money) to do it are not true to real hip hop. When we release material here in Cleveland, there are always cats that act like they are the gatekeeper to fame because they a radio show and unless I cater what tehy want (attention, loot, hella promo mat.) they dont play my shit. That's fouler than fried swine right there. Damn, the is industry WILL make you lose intensity.

"What makes equality such a difficult business is that we only want it with our superiors."
Henry Becque

"The metaphor is probably the most fertile power possessed by man."
José Ortega y Gasset

One day things will all fall apart...


Furious of RIPSQUAD

Why does he need extras for doing his job? Just because I introduce people I interact with to Talib Kweli (some becoming fans, some not), does that mean Kwa owes me free tickets or a fucking t-shirt? Get the fuck outta here. I listen to Kweli b/c I love the music and if it were possible for me to introduce him to a larger audience than I am able to as a simple consumer I would for no cost but to let others join in my appreciation. I wouldn't do it for some fucking comps.

3rd Rail gets paid to do his job. Kweli's tracks help make 3rd Rail's show more popular, thus making him more money. Kweli appears on his show and pushes his own album making, not only 3rd Rail, but himself some extra cash. Seems like an even trade off. So, where does this logically lead to the necessity of free tickets, cds, posters, etc???? What does Kwa get in return? Some dude who kisses his ass?

No, 3rd rail doesn't pay to do his job.

did you mean to add a "get" to that sentence or did you read me wrong?

not sure what HE meant, but no 3rd rail doesn't get paid to host his show. he rocks college radio for virtually no pay. the up side is that he can play whatever he wants on his show--usually uncensored. the downside -he gets overlooked when comes time to pass out perks and props (from the industry--- he'll get a pound from me anyday of the week).
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That is all...

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smells like cat food.
that's all i gotta say.
peace
w/love
dave

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"no matter what claims they make, THEY ALL GET MUSHY!!!!!!!"
teddybear (talking about breakfast cereal) doesn't he just sound bitter?

fuck it.

the both of them are starting to sound like hoes. The shit was obviously a misunderstanding on both sides. Had, @ any juncture, either of em made it a priority to get in contact w/ the other, and they sat down and talked out their BUSINESS like BUSINESS men, there would be NO issue. All this public airing of shit plays like someone trying to get the masses on their side, like those two kids snapping on each other on the school bus, and whoever gets the most laughs wins. Granted this is prolly gonna boost sales, for the both of em, and I personally would love to be @ the next Chitown Talib show, just to see whats really going on. but Talib is a national artist, who gives 2 fucks what some regional kingpin has to say...andif you REALLY wanna hit him where it hurts, go back to Chi, get some underground cats and make a strictly Chicago dis record, start some old Windy City civil war shit,blue against grey type madness. ok, maybe thats a little far, but the poiint is made....

'when you pray, move your feet.' ~ African proverb

'work like its all up to you, pray like its all up to God' ~ African American proverb

...but...what the f*ck do I know?

That is all...

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binlahab you are one of the few on this
board that took a look at both sides
and i couldn't agree more...both sound
bitch and i was going to reply with something else
until i read your post...you know what i'am going
to say it anyway

cause over 90% of yall
got your mouth open, waiting
on talib to drop his semen
in yall mouths...
dickriding cause to dude is a star...
you think talib going to snd you
a personal pm for being on his side?
snd a autograph copy of his album?
weak
ass
niggas
and
bitches
can't wait to see some of yall at
this reunion...
peace to the ones who gave TRUE opinions
on the situation

can't wait to see you there either... too
Dove
~Sheepish Lordess of Chaos~

"Em eee ayche - meh" ~Lisa Simpson

"The satisfaction of helping another human being is all that I...etcetera." ~ Homer Simpson

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Unique Perspective
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I feel you, man! Isn't it ironic the OkayReunion is in Chicago?
Maybe 3rd Rail can come by and we all can play double dutch/
Seriously, leave it alone. Do it for Hip-Hop, not for your own egos. Oh yeah, I am from Chicago, born and raised. Umm, who is 3rd Rail? Somebody tell me please! South Side or West Side?

Love, Me

"It's kind of dangerous to be an emcee..." Mos Def












>fuck it.
>
>the both of them are starting
>to sound like hoes. The
>shit was obviously a misunderstanding
>on both sides. Had, @
>any juncture, either of em
>made it a priority to
>get in contact w/ the
>other, and they sat down
>and talked out their BUSINESS
>like BUSINESS men, there would
>be NO issue. All this
>public airing of shit plays
>like someone trying to get
>the masses on their side,
>like those two kids snapping
>on each other on the
>school bus, and whoever gets
>the most laughs wins. Granted
>this is prolly gonna boost
>sales, for the both of
>em, and I personally would
>love to be @ the
>next Chitown Talib show, just
>to see whats really going
>on. but Talib is a
>national artist, who gives 2
>fucks what some regional kingpin
>has to say...andif you REALLY
>wanna hit him where it
>hurts, go back to Chi,
>get some underground cats and
>make a strictly Chicago dis
>record, start some old Windy
>City civil war shit,blue against
>grey type madness. ok, maybe
>thats a little far, but
>the poiint is made....
>
>'when you pray, move your feet.'
>~ African proverb
>
>'work like its all up to
>you, pray like its all
>up to God' ~ African
>American proverb

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down here, well besides that raheem/ drama beef

you know the left right left guy? check it raheem brought him out right, then drama dissed raheem on the radio and...what's that? you don't care? oh ok my bad



i can't believe he/she said that shit:

The rock: ...ky jelly plan, which means the rock is gonna lube his size 13 boot real good, turn that sumbich sideways, and stick it straight up your candy ass!!

tay: if ya smellllllllll!!!!!!!


"Wazzzzzzzzzzuuuuuuuuuuup!!!!!"
-Tay (the 2 year old lay z gal)

"Wassssssupppp"
-Lay (tay's daddy back to her)

Yeah plus that was a really long ass post. i wonder if it beats any of ?uest's really long ass posts???

i posted half this shit.


"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

_____________________________________________________________________
twenty nine pearls in your kisses and your smile
coffee smell & lilacs in your flame in me
twenty nine pearls in your kisses and your smile
coffee smell & lilacs in your flame in me
I’m only here for this moment
I know everybody here wants you
I know everybody there thinks she needs you
I’ll be waiting right here just to show you
how our love will blow it all away, yeah - lewis taylor via jeff buckley

"For an actress to be a success she must have the face of Venus, the brains of Minerva, the grace of Terpsichore, the memory of Macaulay, the figure of Juno, and the hide of a rhinoceros." -Ethel Barrymore

Do Not Fuck with Izzus! - some_of_my_best_friends_are_black

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HALLELUJAH! FIRE'S POSTS'LL DO YA!!!

is the G.O.A.T. YEAH, BABY!! AIN'T NO STOPPIN' US NOW!! AIN'T NO FUCKING WIT US!! OKAYPLAYER, OKAYPLAYER!!

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Hating Kobe Bryant since he schooled me in high school.

You like rock and roll, yet you have never heard of the Replacements, the greatest rock band of the eighties. If Paul McCartney got violated by Sid Vicious, the Replacements would be the offspring. Please buy a copy of their most exceptional work, "Let It Be," or download the song "Unsatisfied" from Napster. You can thank me later.

u think we should give talib an honorary supermoose degree? he pulled a Veny the Venerable OUT THIS BITCH! :o

(he called him a bitch, do u understand the parameters of him not giving a fuck? this shit is h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s!)

good morning shelly!

He needs new status. See general in a minute or dos.

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Hating Kobe Bryant since he schooled me in high school.

You like rock and roll, yet you have never heard of the Replacements, the greatest rock band of the eighties. If Paul McCartney got violated by Sid Vicious, the Replacements would be the offspring. Please buy a copy of their most exceptional work, "Let It Be," or download the song "Unsatisfied" from Napster. You can thank me later.

That reminds me of the time that Slow Stevie got mad at me because he didn't get invited to my birthday party. His mommy had told my mommy that they were going to the orthopedic shoe store in the next town over so they couldn't come. Slow Stevie got mad at me because he didn't understand that he couldn't come anyways because his old shoes were getting all ratty, that's probably why we call him Slow Stevie. The next time I went to the playground, all the other kids didn't want to play with me because Stevie told them I had cooties. Some were brave enough to come close and give me a wedgie and a charley horse. Stevie got in trouble with his mommy after she found out and he wasn't allowed to watch my little pony for a month after that.

He moved away the next summer and I haven't seen him since.

Manny

So can someone fill me in on when using someone else's fame and clout took the place of making a name for your own self? i thought maybe i was 'sleep when that happened.Wake me up when this craziness is resolved.


"I can only be whole.It is what God intended me to be."-Athena aka Neith

"Squint your eyes and look closer.I'm not between you and your ambition.I am a poster girl with no poster.I am 32 flavors and then some."-Alana Davis

na'mean
}>

That was an intelligent response(sarcasm if you didn't catch it)


"Squint your eyes and look closer.I'm not between you and ypur ambition.I am a poster girl with no poster.I am 32 flavors and then some."-Alana Davis

"I can only be whole.It is what God intended me to be."-Athena aka Neith

*******Quote for the day**********
Hey Yo, i'm stuck up, pretentious, egotistic, conceited, so when you said you wasn't feelin it I ain't believe it. - Oracle: SPEC

!!SOULIGOS!!!

It's all lies, we're fucking Whores.
*Giving you true smut August 23rd to September 22nd*

just wanted another post starting with W.....

oh...and i got beef with this one guy. he came up to me the other day and...oh wait....i'm not selling records...no one cares...

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

I just wanted to be in an archive...

peace...

:7

Where are all the clowns that were poppin' shit about Kweli? This is the time for yall crab asses to speak up! I just wanna ask all the "Kweli-Haters" one thing: Why are yall actin' like the beef between 3rd and Kweli involves you? IT'S NOT YOUR BEEF!!! I know the problem; there's TOO MANY CHILDREN POSTING!!! Don't tell that okayplayer.com needs to facilitate an i.d. check in order to log in. Yall need to stop clownin' and grow up! IF IT AIN'T YOUR BEEF, STAY THE FUCK ON THE SIDELINES AND SPECTATE. Peace and love to ALL . . .

I love hiphop, but why all this over a damn ticket?

Talib gives more than 100 percent at a show, but I don't know who the hell 3rd rail is, and now, I really don't care. You don't tell fans what to buy, just like we don't tell the dj's and mc's what to play and say.

Talib should not have to come on the net to defend himself.

If your loosing money behind of this shit, go get Londell.

N/m. Bring it to the people.

bottom line Fuck'em, do your thang black man

Is this the OKP equivalent of the Capone-N-Noreaga/Foxy vs. Lil Kim shoot-out?

>Is this the OKP equivalent of
>the Capone-N-Noreaga/Foxy vs. Lil Kim
>shoot-out?


We gon' THUGG, THIS, SHIT OUT!
We gon' THUGG, THIS, SHIT OUT!

Heh. Imagine 3rd Rail and Talib Kweli packing heaters.

"Bitch! You dissed me on the air!" *BANG BANG*
"Bitch! You dissed me at my in-store!" *BANG BANG*
"Bitch! You dissed me on your website!" *BANG BANG*
"Bitch! You dissed me at the Metro!" *BANG BANG*

Ridiculous. Somebody needs to give both of these guys a
margarita and a copy of "Balcony Beach" and tell 'em CHILL.

Peaceski weeski,
Flash

(Posting on Okay? Never thought I'd see the day..)

i read all his sides...and I still stand by the fact he was bein' a whiny ass bitch...

YOU don't OWE people SHIT

keep makin' that sweet music baby!

Much love,
Kyle

****************************************
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between my legs baby...now dock that shit.
****************************************

yall need to take this shit to the chatroom!!!!
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Peace,
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Freedom of jail, clips inserted
A baby is being born the same time my man is murdered
The beginning and end
As far as rap go, it’s only natural, I explain my plateau
And also what defines my name
First it was nasty, but times have changed
Ask me now, I’m the artist, but hardcore, my sign’s for pain
I spent time in the game, kept my mind on fame
Saw fiends shoot up and do lines of cocaine
Saw my close friends shot, flat-linin’ my same
Got the pen, carry mac-10’s to practice my aim
On rooftops, tape CD covers to trees
Line the barrel up with your weed, pinch it and squeeze
Street scriptures for lost souls in the crossroads
To the corners thugs hustlin’ for cars that cost dough
To the big dogs livin’ large, takin’ it light
Pushin’ big toys, gettin’ nice, enjoyin’ your life
It’s what you make it, suicide, few try to take it
Belt tied around they neck in jail cells naked
Heaven and hell, rap legend, presence is felt
And of course N-A-S are the letters that spell...

Man I'm saving this on my PC. You never know.

"Livin in a world that’s oh so strange
Boy don’t let your focus change
Takin out the demons in your range" - e. badu

and use the footage from the show on his ass. i WOULD like to see a dis trck from ya ass though. may be one of the all time greats of dis records.

As we all know, beef's have become a part of Hip Hop. And many of them can be boiled down to the specifics we have been given by Kweli.

The problem I have with this, aand maybe I'm seeing this through personal glasses, but beef or nor beef, a male's ego has been hurt, and this can spell trouble. The trouble in which I speak has to do with one male who takes this shit a little personal and the other who understands that this is menial and should be squashed. We've all seen it.

I just hope that the other party in this Hip Hoo psuedo drama decides to let bygones be bygones and say "fuck it", Im'ma take my cheap ass down to the box office and buy a ticket to the next Reflection Eternal show, and dammit Im'ma have me a good time"



They've been spending most their lives,Living in a pastime paradise
They've been spending most their lives,Living in a pastime paradise
They've been wasting most their time,Glorifying days long gone behind
They've been wasting most their days,In remembrance of ignorance oldest praise
Tell me who of them will come to be,How many of them are you and me
Dissipation
Race Relations
Consolation
Segregation
Dispensation
Isolation
Exploitation
Mutilation
Mutations
Miscreation
Confirmation...to the evils of the world
They've been spending most their lives,Living in a future paradise
They've been spending most their lives,Living in a future paradise
They've been looking in their minds,For the day that sorrows gone from time,They keep telling of the day
When the Savior of love will come to stay,Tell me who of them will come to be,How many of them are you and me
Proclamation of Race Relations
Consolation
Integretion
Verification
of Revelations
Acclamation
World Salvation
Vibrations
Stimulation
Confirmation...to the peace of the world
They've been spending most their lives,Living in a pastime paradise
They've been spending most their lives,Living in a pastime paradise
They've been spending most their lives,Living in a future paradise
They've been spending most their lives,Living in a future paradise
We've been spending too much of our lives,Living in a pastime paradise,Let's start living our lives,Living for the future paradise
Praise to our lives,Living for the future paradise,Shame to anyones lives
Living in the pastime paradise
Pastime Paradise-Steveie Wonder (1976)


The brutal truth is that the bulk of white people in America never had any interest in educating black people, except as this could serve white purposes. It is not the black child's language that is in question, it is not his language that is despised: It is his experience. A child cannot be taught by anyone who despises him, and a child cannot afford to be fooled. A child cannot be taught by anyone whose demand, essentially, is that the child repudiate his experience, and all that gives him sustenance, and enter a limbo in which he will no longer be black, and in which he knows that he can never become white. Black people have lost too black children that way. (James Baldwin)

Archive!

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"ModerFoker!"
-Peoples (Shaft)

"We got Hollywoo up in here"
-Peoples (Shaft)

Yo you rocked the show last night yo, even though the crowd was a little blind of your skills, but yeah fuck 3rd rail, and I only say that because that is a bitch move to be upset over some fuckin $30 tickets...

one.
33

Detroit in this... and Cali...

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So many people I've never seen checking out this post, I bet even my moms is reading it.

Hi Mom!!!

-thebigfunk
"And you may ask yourself... what is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself... where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself... Am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may ask yourself... MY GOD! WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!" - "Once In A Lifetime" - Talking Heads

"Trouble in transit/got through the roadblock/we blended with the crowd
We got computer/we're tapping phone lines/I know that ain't allowed
We dress like students/we dress like housewives/or in a suit and a tie
I changed my hairstyle/so many times now/I don't know what I look like!
You make me shiver/I feel so tender/we make a pretty good team
Don't get exhausted/I'll do some driving/you ought to get some sleep
Get you instructions/follow directions/then you should change your address
Maybe tomorrow/Maybe the next day/Whatever you think is best
Burned all my notebooks/What good are notebooks?/They won't help me survive...
My chest is aching/Burns like a furnace/The burning keeps me alive..." - "Life During Wartime" - Talking Heads

i picture dj3rd rail having some kind of ticket fetish. has anyone seen that commercial where that guy is sitting in his cubicle and he starts sniffing his business card? i can see 3rd rail doing that shit with some tickets. uugghg

does he really deserve all this attention. some dude said he was trying to squash the beef by contacting rawkus.....what does he expect an apology....who is he! would you be doing favors for someone telling people to boycott your shit....HELL NO!!!! is this really that important to you 3rd rail, this is the first post from kweli about this shit and look how many times you have posted.....has your feelings been hurt:'(......this shit is too much, 3rd rail go on with your life, i know kweli will......he doesn't need the spotlight to make himself known!

"you actin' like a little bitch right about now"---O-Dog from menace II society

HOLLA!!!!

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WHO THE FUCK IS YOU---BIG CHIEFSMOKEMCOCK??? IF THIRD RAIL ISN'T WORTH THE ATTENTION...MR. CHEKWEEEE WOULDN'T HAVE SPENT 10 MINUTES TALKIN BOUT HIM @THE METRO.
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like everyone else and they momma has hit up this post, i'mma do it too. i just don't wanna left out. ok, i'm done.


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Outkast-Stankonia
Shuggie Otis-Shuggie Otis Plays The Blues
Charlie Hunter & Pound For Pound-Return Of The Candyman
Common-Ressurection

oh. well i case i didn't......fuck 3rd rail.

Kweli is the shit.

vote for Kinesis on Power 99.

thank you.


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i don't know the beef. i don't care to know the beef. f-it! either way, i don't profit and no food it put on my table. but, i can & will say this...

when an artist comes to a city, there is only so much he or she can do with the allotted time they are allowed in each city. if one should ever stop by your show, it is a blessing. now, if you don't get hit off with free tickets, that's on your game. you don't think for a second that funkmaster flex, sway, mr choc, colby colb, red alert don't get hit with tickets? they do, and they get hit with TONS cuz of their credibility. if you don't get hit off lovely, that means you ain't major enough for them to recognize. now, having done said that, i'mma support kweli to the fullest, cuz his music is GOOD. fuck the bullshit. he can be a clansman for all i care, if he is reaching me by his words, i'mma not only listen but support on EVERY outlet i got. so, if you want free t-shirts, tickets, cds, vinyl, then step up your game and become major. besides, a real fan support outta his or her OWN pocket. don't freeload, cuz you spin and run your fake charts. i got rawkus plaques on LOVE! not cuz love is love!


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holla back shawshank, willus, chris wamai & subverbz!

Hello Kids-
Okay straight away,3rd rail, you betta shoulda known better than to name yourself after A.) A west coast clothing line that hasn't been dope since 93,B.) A cliched graffiti term. And another thing, if you're going to post messages you gotta cop a spell check program, your grammar and spelling skills are broke. There's lots of college radio DJ's out there, you think that Kweli owes you some tickets, he don't owe you...You had him on your show and it was love right, you had him on your show because you respected him as an artist and liked his music right?
That's it, end of story, not one artist in the game owes you. You didn't put him on! You simply played his records, I'm sure he thanked you, and that's it. Now to bitch about him and boycott his record(as if it'll make any difference)because he missed you on some tickets, now that's some retarded s--t. You sound like a little kid yo. That dude is touring the world, maiking records, supporting a family, i'm sure DJ 3rd Rail is not his first priority, even when he's in Chicago. You should quit while you're ahead yo...And since this isn't all one-sided...I love Kweli's music, I think he's put out a great record, and "Manifesto" is one of my favorite songs!...However, I believe that he should've just gassed about the situation and not even brought it up period. Right now he's only bringing negative attention to himself, and more attention to DJ 3rd Grade, err... I mean Rail than he could have ever imagined.Ghost!
Subverbz "The Anti-Jiggy Machine"
Peace to Phila Flava, Kev-e-Kev, and The Ock Squad...

*Stamping name*

clocking out

"It's terrible sometimes, inside, that's what's the trouble. You walk these streets, black and funky and cold, and there's not really a living ass to talk to, and there's nothing shaking, and there's no way of getting it out-that storm inside. You can't talk it and you can't make love with it, and when you finally try to get with it and play it, you realize nobody's listening. So you've got to listen. You got to find a way to listen."- James Baldwin "Sonny's Blues"

OKAY SINCE I SEE NEITHER TALIB OR RAWKUS WANTS TO SQUASHS THIS I HAVE TO LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG.

FIRST OF ALL THIS IS NOT ABOUT FAME OR TRYING TO GET EXPOSURE. THIS MESSAGE AND POST WILL BE POSTED ON ALL THE MESSAGE BOARDS AND FORWARDED TO THE LABELS. SO THAT THEY TOO CAN READ WHAT REALLY WENT DOWN.

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY SINCE IF YOU READ THE OTHER POST, PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING THAT PROPERLY.

OK WE ALL KNOW TALIB CAME DOWN TO DO AND INTERVIEW AND IT WAS ALL LOVE. THE SECOND TIME THEY CAME I GOT A CALL LAST MINUTE ABOUT THEM WANTING TO COME DOWN TO DO AN INTEVIEW. I SAID "HELL NO" NO TICKETS NO INTERVIEW. YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE I WAS TRYING TO GET ON HIS ALBUM OR SOMETHING. IT'S CALLED COMMON CURTISY PERIOD. NO LOVE MEANS NO LOVE. I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS. TAKE IT HOW YOU WANT IT. THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE FOR COLLEGE DJ'S EVERYWERE. LETS MAKE THAT THE FINAL CONCLUSION WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE. SO AFTER ARGUING WITH HIS MANGER OVER THE PHONE, WHICH IS NOT HOW YOU TALK TO PEOPLE. WE AGREED TO SQUASH IT AND NEXT TIME THERE IN TOWN IT WAS ALL GOOD. OK I THOUGHT

NEXT TIME IN TOWN (NOW HERE'S WERE PEOPLE GET EVERYTHING TWISTED) THEY ASKED ME (THE LABEL), TO DO AN INSTORE. I WAS AT THE CMJ IN NEW YORK SO I AGREED. HAD THE PRODUCT OVER NIGHTED AND POSTED IT ON MY WEB SITE. "OK IF I HAD BEEF WHY DID I AGREE TO DO THE INSTORE?" COME ON, IT BAFFLES ME THAT PEOPLE MISS READ ALL THE POST. OK A HOUR AND A HALF PAST AND I GET A CALL FROM THE STREET TEAM THAT HE WAS TO TIRED TO COME TO THE INSTORE. SO I TOLD THE FANS , AT THE STORE AND THEY RETURNED ALL THE PRODUCT THEY HAD BROUGHT. RIGHT THERE I TOOK IT PERSONAL BECAUSE WHEN AN ARTIST DISSES HIS FANS HE'S BASICALLY TELLING ME IM TO BIG TO DEAL WITH THESE INSTORES. NOW IF YOU READ THE FIRST POST WERE I DISSED HIM ISAID IM DOING THIS CAUSE HE DISSED HIS FANS FIRST AND FOREMOST. WHICH IN HIS RESPONCE AT THE END CLAIMS WE GOT BEEF CAUSE IM TAKING FOOD OUT OF YOUR BABY'S MOUTH. "HELLO" WHAT DO YOU THINK THE INSTORE WAS? I MEAN COME ON ,YOU ALL TRY TO DOWN PLAY IT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT TICKETS THIS IS ABOUT HOW HE DISSED HIS FANS. PERIOD. AGAIN WHY DO THE INSTORE? OK SO I POSTED ON MY WEBSITE THAT HE DISSED HIS FANS AND HIS ABLUM IS WACK. IM THE DJ AND I FELT HIS ALBUM WAS NOT TO THE STANDARDS HE WAS SETTING FOR HIMSELF PRIOR TO THE ALBUM. SO JUST CAUSE YOU LIKE HIM DOESN'T MEAN HIS ALBUM CAN'T BE WACK. SO ALL THIS TIME SINCE THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE CANCELLED ON HIM HE'S BEEN MAD. WHICH HIS MANAGER HAD ALREADY TOLD ME IT WAS COOL. SO THAT'S BETWEEN THEM. STOP AGAIN TRYING TO SAY TALIB WAS UNAWARE. I'LL TELL YOU WHY. ON THE AIR HE TOLD ME AND EVERYONE THAT HE DID NOT GO TO THE INSTORE BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED.HE DID TWO INSTORES AND WAS TIRED. NOW I ASK YOU OR TALIB HOW TIRING IS IT TO SIGN AUTOGRAPHS? COME ON I CAN'T BUY THAT, ANY ONE WHO DOES IS JUST REACHING "PERIOD". THEN 2 MINUTES LATER ON THE AIR HE SAID HE DIDN'T GO TO THE INSTORE BECAUSE IT WAS MY STORE.WHICH IS IT I ASK YOU?

OK BEFORE THE LAST CONCERT, HE WENT TO A RECORD STORE LOOKING FOR ME? THEN HE DISSED ME ON STAGE AND CALLED ME OUT? I CALL THAT VERBAL TREATS TO MY WELL BEING. NO SUGAR COATING THIS ONE PERIOD. OK HE WANTED TO DISS ME IN FRONT OF 800 PEOPLE. I GOT THE CALLS RIGHT AWAY. SO I PULLED OUT MY TIM DOG RECORD "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK" AND DEDICATED THAT SONG TO TALIB AND HI TEK. WHICH I MAY ADD I HEARD WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISS. "SO HI-TEK IM NOT ADDRESSING THIS TO YOU" SO AFTER HE TAUGHT IT WAS COOL TO DISS ME ON STAGE HE GOT WIND OF THE STATION. IM SURE HE COULD NOT BELIEVE I WOULD DISS HIM OVER THE AIRWAVES. AGAIN PEOPLE LETS REMEMBER WHERE YOU GOT YOUR START FROM. I DON'T PULL NO PUNCHES FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ME. WHICH YOU'LL SOON READ.

OK AFTER HE CALLS THE RADIO SHOW AND STARTS TALKING . THEN YELLING, THEN CUSSING. I COULD NOT GET IN A WORD EVEN WHEN I WAS TRYING TO SPEAK WE LOWERED THE VOLUME SO I COULD SAY WHAT I HAD TO SAY. HE WAS STILL YELLING. WHEN WE RAISED THE VOLUME BACK UP. SO AFTER THIS HAD OCCURED I WENT TO RAWKUS.COM AND POSTED AN MESSAGE ON THERE BOARD. NOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING I DIDN'T TRY TO SQUASH IT? READ THE POST BEFORE THERE WAS A BOYCOTT. I DID THE INSTORE WITHOUT KNOWING HE WAS MAD THEN. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO HUMBLE MYSELF? I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE LABEL. IT'S FUNNY HOW HIS POST GOT SENT TO ALL THE LABELS AND ALL THE INDUSTRY PEOPLE. TO BAD THEY DIDN'T FORWARD MINE SO THAT THIS WOULD NOT ESCALTE THE WAY IT HAS.

NOW TALIB FEELS THE NEED TO BRING BAHAMADIA AND BAD SEED INTO THIS. ALL YOU PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS SHOULD BE BETWEEN ME AND HIM? WHY HAVEN'T YOU ASKED TALIB THAT SAME QUESTION.? WHAT DO THOSE TWO PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH YOU AND ME? FOR YOUR INFO THE BAHAMADIA QUESTION THAT LEAD TO THE WHOLE THING WAS ME NOT GETTING TICKETS TO A 3 DAY SHOW IN TOWN. IT WASN'T ADDRESSED TO BAHAMADIA BUT SHE DECIDED TO ANSWER IT AND TOLD ME NOT TO TAKE THINGS PERSONAL. THEN SHE TOOK IT PERSONAL AND BEGAN TO GET HEATED. AGAIN THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. SOME OF YOU THINK CAUSE WERE DOING COLLEGE IT'S OK TO NOT RESPECT US? THINK AGIAN. "THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE"

NOW THE BAD SEED THING TALIB DON'T EVEN KNOW THE WHOLE STORY SO HE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP. LETS MAKE THIS CLEAR. I HAD BOOKED "BADSEED " AND "WHAT WHAT" TO DO A SHOW IN CHICAGO WITH BREEZE EVAHFLOWIN. EVERYONE IN THE MAKING RECORDS CAMP WANTED TO COME BUT I ONLY HAD ROOM FOR TWO. THIS EVENT WAS FUNDED SOLELY BY MYSELF. ASK BREEZE HE SLEPT ON THE FLOOR THAT WEEKEND. NOW THE NIGHT BEFORE I SPOKE TO OCEAN AND THEY TOLD ME EVERYTHING WAS COOL. THE DAY OF THE SHOW I GET A CALL FROM MAKIN MUSIC SAYING THAT THEY COULD NOT COME BECAUSE "BAD SEED" HAD DEVELOPED "PINK EYE" I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE FACT THAT BAD SEED AND WHAT WHAT WERE DATING AT THE TIME. SO I ASKED WHAT ABOUT WHAT WHAT, THEY SAID SHE'S NOT LEAVING SEEDS' SIDE. I SAID WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO GO? THEY ALL SAID NO. SO I TOLD THEM THE TICKETS WERE NON-REFUNDABLE AND THEY BASICALLY TOLD OH WELL. SO THEN WORDS WERE EXCHANGED AND TREATS TO MY LIFE WERE MADE. NOW I DON'T PLAY. SO I SPOKE WITH BYZEONE, AND J-GRAND AND WE HAD KINDA SQUASHED THE WHOLE THING. NOW 1 YEAR AGO WHILE I WAS IN JAPAN BAD SEED CAME TO CHICAGO (KNOWING I WAS IN JAPAN) AND DISSED ME. ) SO THAT'S THE WHOLE DEAL WITH THAT.

NOW SINCE ALL YOU GUYS AND GIRLS ARE TRYING TO BREAK IT DOWN, AND SAY IT'S ALL ABOUT ME AND NOT THE FANS? REREAD THE POST AGAIN. LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THE FANS.

RAWKUS VS FATBEATS
OK HERE'S THE DEAL. I HAVE HELD BACK ON THIS CAUSE IT MADE ME SICK TO HEAR WHAT WENT DOWN WITH THIS.
FIRST OF ALL RAWKUS IS A DRUM AND BASS LABEL.
FAT BEATS IS A INDEPENDENT HIP HOP RECORD STORE/DISTRIBUTOR.
FOR YEARS FATBEATS HAS SUPPORTED RAWKUS. THEY MADE RAWKUS A HOUSE WHOLE NAME. THIS IS WHEN RAWKUS STILL HAD THE LOGO OF THE ROSE AND THE RAZOR BLADE. SO FATBEATS MADE RAWKUS. NOW LAST YEAR SOMETIME RAWKUS'S OWNERS AND JOE (FAT BEATS OWNER ) HAD A MEETING. RAWKUS WANTED TO BUY FATBEATS (STORES, DIST, NAME ETC....)JOE TOLD THEM NO. SO RAWKUS PEOPLE GOT MAD AND TOLD FAT BEATS THAT THERE WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO CRUSH FAT BEATS, BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR FAT BEATS WOULD NOT BE AROUND. THEY ALSO MADE FAT BEATS TAKE ALL THERE (RAWKUS) PRODUCT OUT OF THERE STORE. THEY (FAT BEATS ) WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL THE JURASSIC 5 ALBUMS IN ANY OF THERE STORE'S. "COME ON THAT WAS AND EASY 10,000 UNITS" "DO YOU CARE ABOUT THE ARTIST? I HAVEN'T TOLD PEOPLE THIS STORY ,BUT SINCE TALIB FEELS THE NEEDTO BRING STUFF THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SITUTATION, THEN I HAVE TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THE REAL DEAL. LIKE WHY IS SHABAM NOT ON RAWKUS? LIKE WHY DID KOOL G RAP GET A SINGLE DEAL? LET'S BE REAL, IF YOU LOVE HIP HOP THEN LIVE HIP HOP AND REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING IN HIP HOP STILL CAN'T BE BROUGHT.
ON THAT NOTE I EXTEND THE INVITATION TO TALIB TO GET AT ME AND LETS SQUASH THIS.
LOVE WILL ALWAYS BE LOVE
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thoughts--

>FIRST OF ALL THIS IS NOT
>ABOUT FAME OR TRYING TO
>GET EXPOSURE.

cool!

>THIS MESSAGE AND
>POST WILL BE POSTED ON
>ALL THE MESSAGE BOARDS AND
>FORWARDED TO THE LABELS. SO
>THAT THEY TOO CAN READ
>WHAT REALLY WENT DOWN.

that's COMPLETELY counterproductive to getting exposure, so i understand why you're doing that.

>I GOT A CALL LAST
>MINUTE ABOUT THEM WANTING TO
>COME DOWN TO DO AN
>INTEVIEW. I SAID "HELL NO"
>NO TICKETS NO INTERVIEW. YOU

talib sez: "I was looking forward to coming on the show and knew nothing about his ticket woes, which really have nothing to do with me."

which seems to be true since it was Rawkus that called you @ the last minute...

>THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE
>FOR COLLEGE DJ'S EVERYWERE. LETS
>MAKE THAT THE FINAL CONCLUSION
>WHEN ALL IS SAID AND
>DONE. SO AFTER ARGUING WITH

so, this is really about you crusading for more perks for college DJ's?

>NEXT TIME IN TOWN (NOW HERE'S
>WERE PEOPLE GET EVERYTHING TWISTED)
>THEY ASKED ME (THE LABEL),
>TO DO AN INSTORE.

talib sez: "Rawkus rep calls 3rd Rail at the last minute to set up an in-store at the store he worked at. Problem was, they forgot to tell me about it until the last minute."

>THE POST. OK A HOUR
>AND A HALF PAST AND
>I GET A CALL FROM
>THE STREET TEAM THAT HE
>WAS TO TIRED TO COME
>TO THE INSTORE.

talib sez: "When I heard people were waiting though, I was on
my way. Then I hear that it was 3rd Rail's store. Not two months earlier 3rd Rail said I couldn't do his radio show because he didn't get tickets to a show I wasn't even on the bill for. I'm thinkin', "I'm about to go out of my way for his in-store? Fuck That!" I turned the car around, said fuck 3rd Rail, took a nap
and rocked my show with the Roots, Slum Village, Bahamadia, dead prez, Flo, the Jazzys, Jag and all the real fans who don't bitch and moan about the humanity of their artists."

so, his 'pettiness' about cancelling the in-store basically stems back to your 'pettiness' over the tickets which goes back to Rawkus lack of offering them to you (Rawkus, which isn't necessarily the same as Kweli).

>SO I
>TOLD THE FANS , AT
>THE STORE AND THEY RETURNED
>ALL THE PRODUCT THEY HAD
>BROUGHT. RIGHT THERE I TOOK
>IT PERSONAL BECAUSE WHEN AN
>ARTIST DISSES HIS FANS HE'S
>BASICALLY TELLING ME IM TO
>BIG TO DEAL WITH THESE
>INSTORES. NOW IF YOU READ

talib sez: "For all the fans who were at the in-store ... I'm sorry, but shit happens. Schedules conflict, people give out false info. If you take that kind of shit personal, that's your issue. I never agreed to do that in-store, Rawkus set that up. And if it's a choice between doing an in-store and getting enough rest so that I can rock properly, I gotta take care of myself. If I don't rock, ya'll don't buy the records, and there is no in-store."

>DOWN PLAY IT. THIS IS
>NOT ABOUT TICKETS THIS IS
>ABOUT HOW HE DISSED HIS
>FANS. PERIOD. AGAIN WHY DO

all of it could've been prevented if Rawkus had hooked you up with tickets or if you hadn't made the tickets a big deal.

>INSTORE BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED.HE
>DID TWO INSTORES AND WAS
>TIRED. NOW I ASK YOU
>OR TALIB HOW TIRING IS
>IT TO SIGN AUTOGRAPHS? COME

come on, guy--In-stores aren't just about signing autographs, they're about interacting with people. everyone gets tired of dealing with people--much less cats that are supposedly 'celebrities' that have a stream of fans coming in wanting stuff signed, wanna talk, wanna slang demos, and all of that...sometimes for an hour or two...that would bug most people and drive 'em crazy. but the cat did 2 in-stores that day...it seems that most artists only do 1 appearance in-store, if they do one at all.

>ON I CAN'T BUY THAT,
>ANY ONE WHO DOES IS
>JUST REACHING "PERIOD". THEN 2
>MINUTES LATER ON THE AIR
>HE SAID HE DIDN'T GO
>TO THE INSTORE BECAUSE IT
>WAS MY STORE.WHICH IS IT
>I ASK YOU?

from what i read, it seems that the cat was tired and really didn't wanna do it--but heard that there were fans waiting--so he decided to do it, then found out that you were involved and was still salty over you dissing him and the album. so, he subsquently had even more reason to cancel, in his mind.

>OK BEFORE THE LAST CONCERT, HE
>WENT TO A RECORD STORE
>LOOKING FOR ME? THEN HE
>DISSED ME ON STAGE AND
>CALLED ME OUT? I CALL
>THAT VERBAL TREATS TO MY
>WELL BEING. NO SUGAR COATING
>THIS ONE PERIOD. OK HE
>WANTED TO DISS ME IN
>FRONT OF 800 PEOPLE. I

yeah, i question the whole 'which is more public? the show? or the internet?' thinking that Kweli displayed...

>GOT THE CALLS RIGHT AWAY.
>SO I PULLED OUT MY
>TIM DOG RECORD "I DON'T
>GIVE A FUCK" AND DEDICATED

but not giving a fuck entails organizing a boycott--that's how much you don't give a funk?

>HAD OCCURED I WENT TO
>RAWKUS.COM AND POSTED AN MESSAGE
>ON THERE BOARD. NOW PEOPLE

why would you go to Rawkus.com? the guy doesn't frequent his own personal website's boards (at least under his own name), much less the website of the company that happened to release his album.

>I HAVE REACHED OUT TO
>THE LABEL. IT'S FUNNY HOW

i see that at the end of your post, you extend your hand to Kweli--that's the direct manner...not contacting the label, i would imagine.

>HIS POST GOT SENT TO
>ALL THE LABELS AND ALL
>THE INDUSTRY PEOPLE. TO BAD
>THEY DIDN'T FORWARD MINE SO
>THAT THIS WOULD NOT ESCALTE
>THE WAY IT HAS.

who sent his post where? maybe cats just read it off the boards.

>ALL ABOUT ME AND NOT
>THE FANS? REREAD THE POST
>AGAIN. LETS NOT TALK ABOUT
>THE FANS.

you mentioned that you dissed him because you thought he dissed his fans...

>RAWKUS VS FATBEATS

this really doesn't have too much to do with you and Talib's thing...

>ON THAT NOTE I EXTEND THE
>INVITATION TO TALIB TO GET
>AT ME AND LETS SQUASH
>THIS.
>LOVE WILL ALWAYS BE LOVE
>DJ3RDRAIL

that's the spirit, skippy...ever interested in being on a sitcom?
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Good way of summing it up. Seems like Rawkus made some errors too. Hopefully this will end with with no noise.

"Livin in a world that’s oh so strange
Boy don’t let your focus change
Takin out the demons in your range" - e. badu

not a bird ...not a plane...

It's SUPER fight for college Dj's rights MAN!!!

Much love,
Kyle

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It's clear that the brother is letting his personal feelings toward RE color his critique. This guy states that "Train of Thought" wasn't up to the standards set by RE in past efforts.
Frankly, I'm not sure how he could come to that conclusion, assuming that he's a fan of that style of music. It's one thing to say that it wasn't deserving of all of the hype, or some similar statement. But to come out and label the album *wack* is clearly an attempt to use his bully pulpit to dis back.

To be honest, his willingness to stretch the truth in that area has tainted his reputation in my eyes--I'm less likely to believe his version of the story at this point.

Keynote, original lurker since 1990-whatever. Now that Angie gave me back my name, I can post with impunity.

And soon, I'll be wearing the new shoes.

NOW I ASK YOU
>OR TALIB HOW TIRING IS
>IT TO SIGN AUTOGRAPHS

take it from the questlove drawin master....

shit is hard as hell!!






"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

;-)

:)

Feel me
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"I shall, proceed, and continue" - BT

"I once wuz lost, but now I'm Okay" - Scrapluv

You're a "college" D.J.??!?!?!? I know all those books they make you buy at college have purty pictures and stuff, but you need to invest in a Speak 'N Spell before you even begin to think about college.

License plate idea turned down by the North Carolina DMV: FELL8ME

besides his affinity for CAPS LOCK and twisted logic, 3rd Rail's writing is understandable...

Understandable, yes...but you can't even pretend that it's anywhere near college-level? My favorite is the use of quotes to add emphasis.

License plate idea turned down by the North Carolina DMV: FELL8ME

and that has "how much" of nothing to do with anything???
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shit was way too long...

and i aint got time for shit like this.....

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backpackers are people too - me

"lick you like a lizard when im slizzard/ or so-ber/ six million ways to fold ya/ like noah/ i get twos of of you and you get PRETTY D" - big boi

"i feel like selena/ the president of my fan club wants to kill me" - el-p

Do it up FUNKY - me (and a whole lotta other people)
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ELLAVA PANTA RE MALAKA!!! PONTOS!!! KOMNIMA!!! (greeks know)

Being that you are a college DJ, did you actually attend classes??

Kuz you kant spel. and your grammer horrible iz.

Peese


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yeah, it's pretty good. It's called "Shutthefuckupbecauseyallhavewaytoomuchtimeonyourhandsandyousoundstupid,talkaboutsomethingthatyoumightactuallyhaveaneffecton!!!"

cop it, its been out since this post started

Until Talib see's 3rd rail?
What then? a fight, a battle, guns, knives. You are both equally wrong at this point. Who was wrong first is long lost in the aftermath. Two wrongs do not make a right, and they don't make an even. How did the beef between Biggie and Tupac begin? Just imagine if fools were in the web back then, they might have died a couple years sooner. I teach third grade and I just stopped two little boys from having a similar disagreement, it's called he said, she said! I personally feel that they are both ego trippin like a Nikki Giovanni poem. Blu magazine has an article called starfucka's, and this board is full of them. I don't know 3rdrail, but I do know Talib and I still feel that this situation escalated as a reflection of poor judgement! Is ignorance truly bliss? Are the rose tinted visors really that in place? It's interesting to observe how quickly we make exceptions for the morality of those we admire.
The truth of the matter is both gentleman(and I use the term loosely)are in the wrong. 3rd rail should not have used his position on the radio and internet to bash Talib. Talib should not have used his position as a performer to retaliate against ignorance. Instead he perpetuated the ignorance, and has no one to blaim but himself for the continued attack. 3rd rail displayed his maturity level prior to the internet bash, so Talib(who is very intelligent, with an amazing amount of perception)should have expected this. The sentiment of his response calls for a continuation of the beef and that is a problem. Remove the star studded bias and you have two men arguing over who they consider themselves to be. Right now, they both look arrogant, egotistical, and stubborn. Maybe you feel that one has more of a right, but a strong spirituality dictates that dose of humbleness never hurt anyone.

We lost 3rd rail and Talib too much violence in hip hop..Why Yo?

"and then there were none....."

BILAL'S #1 FEMALE FAN...T WANTED TO SAY HELLO, AND I REALLY WANTED TO ATTEND THE SHOW YOU DID AT TREMONT HALL BUT I HAD TO WATCH OUT FOR THE KIDZ WHILE MY MOMS WENT TO GET HER HAIR BRAIDED. BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT I WILL SEE YOU WHEN YOU COME TO CHARLOTTE WITH E.BADU ON THE 25. PEACE YAW'LL.

Um, you do know how to post right?

And you do know that Bilal isn't on this site right?

Just checking . . .

Just thought I'd throw that in there . . .

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why does everyone care so much? damn.

peace.

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talib, rza grunted it best....positive energy activates constant elevation. i'm with you though, respect you even taking the time to come voice this over here. it is some really trife shit in my eyes, but if someone's taking money out of the fam's mouth, that is some serious shit. just keep on, don't invest too much of your space/time/energy into this little bs though....much larger things to focus on....

response willbe well over 200
by the time i come to wrk tomorrow



*yawn*



oh you gangsta, i'am get mobster and beat
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Verbal Intercourse
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}> get it???

PETTY !! telling other people to boycott an artists records because he's pissed off or something !! People should buy records based on their own taste and opinion nothing else. Thanks for explaining Talib its appreacated I just hope this b.s comes to an end soon. :-(


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comming on.


but that's just me.


carry on


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First off i would like to say what up to all my hip hop cats out there.

Its very unfortunate that shit like this has to go down in hip hop which can get blown way out of proportion. I'm from Chicago however i'm in the military and have been gone from the chi for over 10 years therefore i'm not too familiar with 3rd rail. Talib Kweli and Hi-Tek have blessed us with one fat album that will go down as a true masterpiece for years to come. This thing going on with 3rd rail shouldn't make the real hip hop heads turn their back on Reflection Eternal so i wouldn't sweat that shit......i hear good things about 3rd rail also so i'm not taking anything away from that cat especially since i don't have the background to make a proper judgment on him. I just hear that he is well respected out in the chi also. I hope you cats can work through this static.

Try to get some shows down here in San Antonio and rock these down south cats! Much love to all my TX okayplayers.....One love

H

hope u n 3rd rail can work things out. it is a fucked up situation, but as long as you keep your head straight....
peace and love

with talib the roots jag slum etc etc...it was allll live and im just hearing about this 3rd rail shit. but for real fuck 3rd ive never heard of his ass and ive lived here how long...????
but newayz i dont know whats going on really....ive been lovin hip hop...damn going on about 3 years or so *realllll hip hop not rap n shit like that* but talib i gots nothin but love and respect for him.
Peace Gods n' Earths
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'i dont think im down for that...'

>for real fuck 3rd ive
>never heard of his ass
>and ive lived here how
>long...????
>but newayz i dont know whats
>going on really....ive been lovin
>hip hop...damn going on about
>3 years or so

if you've only been listening to hip-hop 3 years, I would hardly expect you to have heard of a hip-hop college radio DJ.

> *realllll
>hip hop not rap n
>shit like that* but talib
>i gots nothin but love
>and respect for him.
>Peace Gods n' Earths

Mosaic, are you reading this?

Keep it real.

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I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LET TALIB KWELI KNOW THAT THE BOYCOTT HAS EXTENDED INTO CANADA THROUGH ALL HMV MUSIC STORES..AND IT JUST DONT STOP!

DJ 3RD RAIL KEEP FIGHTING FOR COLLEGE DJ'S WORLDWIDE CUZ SUCKER EMCEE'S/WACK LABELS NEED TO BE TAKEN BACK TO THE ESSENCE.

PEACE

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so you mean that you are taking action. over someone else's beef? and far up in canada? what is your audience? numberwise? this sounds like bandwagoning. and you need to stop it.




"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

Cause I took my boy Dan into the HMV on Queen and got him to finally pick up the Reflection Eternal joint. Speak for yourself dude, Canada loves Kweli, he knows it, BTW who the fuck is 3rd Rail? I think that answers this beef.


"I am an alien from the other world, from outer space, I don't have no land, no estate, no property, no house. Not on this earth. I live in space - I'm only a visitor here. Some people are only here to collect property. I am here with my suitcase to collect only the good brains."-Lee Scratch Perry

NO RULES, RULES.

>so you mean that you are
>taking action. over someone else's
>beef? and far up in
>canada? what is your audience?
>numberwise? this sounds like bandwagoning.
>and you need to stop
>it.
.......ya sounding like a parent!!!!!!


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Yeah....I'm sure a huge chain like HMV is gonna boycott his record. You probably convinced your buddy who is the manager at the Missisauga store to not re-order any.

Fool

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YOU BETTER GET ANOTHER JOB TO START FEEDINGS KWELI'S 12 KIDS, CUZ HIS ROYALTIES WONT CUT IT..

IF SOMEONE CALLED YOUR FAMILY A BITCH YOU'D SAY SOMETHING TOO.

PEACE IS NOT THE WORD TO PLAY.

Where is this "Canadian" Boycott taking place? You trying to tell me that ALL of the HMV stores no longer carry the record? HMV is a huge BUSINESS, they don't get involved in beef between a lesser known artist and an even lesser known DJ. If you think otherwise, then you are really a FOOL.

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>YOU BETTER GET ANOTHER JOB TO
>START FEEDINGS KWELI'S 12 KIDS,
>CUZ HIS ROYALTIES WONT CUT
>IT..
>
>IF SOMEONE CALLED YOUR FAMILY A
>BITCH YOU'D SAY SOMETHING TOO.
>
>
>PEACE IS NOT THE WORD TO
>PLAY.


If your family wasn't actin like one they wouldn't be called one. Why don't you boycott cats that are actually contributing to the decline of OUR CIVILIZATION AS A WHOLE and not a head tryin to do better for himself and hiphop in general? Just because Talib doesn't like your DJ and said so at TALIB'S show doesn't mean that he isn't positive. Jesus Christ had beef with Judas does that mean Jesus didn't practice what he preaches? Eminem said he hated gays and then did a song with one of the biggest. Are you gonna boycott him too? No? Only because he didn't dis your homey. Can't you see how dumb that sounds?
ChanEpic
Tha Stik Up Kidz are comin!!!!!

How is 3rd Rail your family? Cuz you type in all caps?

PLEASE don't tell me it's because you're a college radio/"underground" DJ. You have some kind of affinity with a dude you never met? You wanna take someone else's beef and make it your own so, what, you can buy Solidarity Insurance in The Game of Life? What are you, stupid?

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I don't know what part a canada u talking about dialogtpln but ain't nobody gonna boycott Kweli in toronto! how is kweli a sucker emcee? Man go eat a fruit cake or somethin!! u clown!

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I live in Canada and I know no such thing of a boycott. '84 Olympics? Huh? Sucka emcees? Left stranded?

Check the essence before you commentate on it, should I call you Mr. Costas?

peace

in some places they should DARE boycott kweli, i was watching Much Music and they had a whole show on ottowa's(sp) hip hop scene.....shit was horrible, i dont know if all of its like that but damn.... i dont think ANYONE liked that shit!

their still a whole lot of good canadian heads but ottawa(sp) should just keep quiet.

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~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

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"lick you like a lizard when im slizzard/ or so-ber/ six million ways to fold ya/ like noah/ i get twos of of you and you get PRETTY D" - big boi

"i feel like selena/ the president of my fan club wants to kill me" - el-p

Do it up FUNKY - me (and a whole lotta other people)
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

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Dialog and Third Rail,

I spin at two different stations. We do get serviced with Rawkus and Reflection Eternal product and we do report to various trades. Enough shitting on college dj's from these ungrateful artists and executives. We at our stations will support the Boycott and spread the word to other dj's. I also belong to a radio coalition that consists of over fifteen nationwide college/community radio stations. You guys have nothing but support on this end.

basiclly if no one has ever heard one of third rail's shows then you can't comment on him,and just the tone kweli takes in his voice is very negative and negates his postive work in my opinion,instead of helping the man Kweli again puts him down and hides behind his seeds(wth)and whatnot,if he knows where third is at then how come he doesn't sqelch it?(cause thats what grown men do)even after the convo on the radio show was over there was a call to end the so called beef but he didn't try to call back,if you would of heard kweli's way of "talking" out a situation you wouldv'e been suprised anyways like krs said be an educated consumer.

oh kweli called us internet people"internet geeks"lol
big ups to Third Rail.

like to say... yes... Talib IS the SHIT!!! am i dick riding... uhh NO! i'ma dedicated fan tho, and that what he is speakin here is the truth...

ayo kweli.... if u catch his punk ass face to face... HIT HIM WIT THE BLAST!!!! be like... 'i'm punch ya so hard that it'll make ya say... KWELI!!!!'

lol, mad props to u man...

and i'd like to say, that 3rd rail is a bitch/has mad BITCH moves!!!! so... yea, i'll follow the majority here and say.... FUCK 3rd RAIL!!!! u BEEEEEOOOOOOTCH!!!!!!


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OOOOOh, am I out of the loop!!! I'm from Chicago and I've heard 3rd rail's raidio show a couple a' times. It was ok. But I'm partial to quality hip-hop and am usually keen on the diff. bet. what's stale and what's innovative. A contest bet. Hi-Tek and 3rd???? Hi-Tek, definately hands down, up, and tied behind his back.

I'm sure what ever 3rd rail had to say wasn't important engough to warrant any extra energy.

I guarantee that even if Talib didn't respond, he would have seen a net decrease of "0" in record sales....come on now?! We're talkin' polished production, rhymes that can only be deciphered with active thought, and a dj with beats that speak directly to he rhymes. A successful boycott would require support that 3rd ust doesn't have.

I'm out of town at school and may not have the info. to comment on the quality of 3rd's work, but I'm sure this boycott business was part of a dream that he had about he and some aliens taking over the world via subliminal messages over the internet.

"Yeah, you pronounce my name KWELI....Any questions?"

Personally, I'm partial to quality hip-hop, and have a love-hate relationship with Chicago.

Yo, what the deal Kweli!
Hey just to let you know I was at the in store that day it was a tuesday and your show was the same night right well I waited with like 10 other guys and 3rd Rail said you would be there which shit man i was hoping to exchange pounds at least but u know thats in the past and I still bought your cd and it was phat loved it beat it and just it was a real hip hop record and i thank you for putting music like that you and Hi-tek and another thing i went to the lyricist lounge show and to be honest you were the best and gave everyone a shit load of energy and then at the end you busted on to stage and kicked one last verse now this isn't to suck up to anyone fuck that! but to show my love and respect for u and Hi-tek and the music thanx and in 3rd rails case hes cool but if it went down like that and i were in the same situation i would have done the same thang!!

We'll Peace and keep rocking it!!!!!
E-mail- Hipwu45@aol.com

just curious thats all.... i need some more weed...damn. whyd i write that?

www.dj3rdrail.com

and you can check him out spinning live 3 times a week on tpln.net.

peace

or 1 of his boys!!!!!

ayo... whussup bitch?!?! i hear u on sum petty bitch shit??? what do u have to say about this??!?!


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awwwwwww fuck it i jus wanna be in da archive, but the thing that has got me puzzled is the fact that 3rd rail is supposed to be well known in da chi but i've seen quite a few chi heads in here that said they aint even know who his ass was??? but for me personally niether 3rdRail or R.E is puttin loot in niether one of my pockets, so it doesnt do shit for me to take either one of they sides, plus the fact that i have no idea who is 3rdRail anyway, even though both stories have thier holes in it, i jus hope yall clear this up soon.

peace

>awwwwwww fuck it i jus wanna
>be in da archive, but
>the thing that has got
>me puzzled is the fact
>that 3rd rail is supposed
>to be well known in
>da chi but i've seen
>quite a few chi heads
>in here that said they
>aint even know who his
>ass was???

Chicago is the 3rd largest city in America. I bet you could even find some folks there who still haven't heard of Common. HA.

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would you boycott the Roots? Hell no!! This mentality just doesn't make sense.



Talib, eff a boycott, you know we all got the album at midnight october 17th.

Ive already personally seen people not buy talib's album after hearing what happened..so its working.

personally?? are you sure? ure eyes checked lately??

well i'll be damn...they're takin' over the world...first Kweli...then hunger...then peace.

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You're both being petty. Men handle their beefs privately and discreetly. If someone puts you on blast the best way to handle it is to take them privately aside and set them straight. This flexing for the internet community does nothing for either of you and decreases both party's reputations.

Peace,
Chris

......pretty foolish

people do dumb ish sometimes...rise ABOVE....

and keep your business to yourselves.


blessings.

aight yall should know by know that im jus bullshitin and jus wanna be the one to make this a double plat. but i do disagree with what binlab said about it would increase sales because i dont think this beef is all that major. and i jus dont unnastand why would anyone want to boycott the shit? he had beef wit 3RD RAIL!!!!!! NOT THE CITY OF CHICAGO!!!! that shit jus doesnt make sense to me at all

i wonder where is quest? i thought he would be the one to do the honors? well since im up, somebodys gotta do it, damn, i know i should take my ass to bed, i gotta job interview at 11am tomar-- well today that is.

peace

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im up here thinkin' im about to get the 200th post and yo punk ass come up in here talkin' bout somebody's grammar and shit.
i'll be damn!

proud postblocker since 3/9/2001.

LOL.

I'ma stop posting in this thread. We might crash the board if it gets too big, right?

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

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fuck 3rd ive never heard of his ass and ive lived here how long...????
but newayz i dont know whats going on really....ive been lovin hip hop...damn going on about 3 years or so *realllll hip hop not rap n shit like that* but talib i gots nothin but love and respect for him.
Peace Gods n' Earths
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damn, i really wanted to get at
this "kid"

maybe i can clear some "shit" up
a little bit...
if you are a "head" then you have heard
of 3rd rail...he's a underground
dj
if you only listen to wgci
and think that's the only hip hop
station chi has then...no you would
have never heard of him

peace to wnua and whpk
doonit since 1983 baby
plz believe it!

bombazee

cool tag name. i'm having keith murray first album memories...
sigh.
i'm too young to be getting old

why I love Okayplayer....

Tell em why u mad SON! :-)
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little everything's gone to shit
people fall victim to the most petty shit
everyone's ego gets out of hand

Taallliibb, yoouuuu GGGOOOOOOONNNNNNNNIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!!

use the pinchas of powa

fuck it, i say okayplayer should sponsor an Okayplayer Boxing Pay-Per-View special, with 3 fights.

Bout one, Talib Kweli vs. Dj 3rd Rail in a 12 round boxing match with ?uestlove as the referee.

Bout two, Evidence vs. Eminem with Everlast (try sayin their names 3 times fast) as the referee.

Bout three, Common vs. that wack mufucka in UGK that dissed him with No I.D. as the referee.

And oh yeah, Angieee could be the ring-card girl, ;-)

Lets get it on!

"My grandmother always tol me Jason, beware ov ur surroundings/ Ya friends ya countin on could also be ya drownin/ She said life is jus a journey and we all on ships/ So get sum ownership, before you end up, unda the ocean ov wasted talent/ Where the coulda shoulda people sit an mope/ My ambition reflects success to my ol school folx/ Jus keep ya head up/ Its got ta get betta, becus its written/ I know sumtimes it seems the negativity wont let up"--Planet Asia

OK FIRST OF ALL LET'S DEAL WITH FACTS. YOU SAY IM CHILDISH AND THIS AND THAT ABOUT A BOYCOTT?
FACT: WHEN FAT BEATS TOLD RAWKUS NO TO THE OFFER OF BEING BROUGHT OUT, RAWKUS BOYCOTTED FAT BEATS. THE WEEK THE JURRASIC 5 ALBUM DROPPED. ALL FAT BEATS STORES AND DISTRIBUTIONS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL THE ALBUM, TAPE, CD, AND ANY OTHER PRODUCT PERIOD. THIS IS A BOYCOTT IF YOU ASK ME. I DID POST THAT IN THE PREVIOUS MESSAGE. WHY ARE YOU NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT? THAT HURT JURASIC 5 SALES, WHEN OTHER DISTRIBUTORS HAD TO RUSH TO FILL ORDERS. THEY GOT CAUGHT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE? IF IT WAS TALIB'S ALBUM IT WOULD OF BEEN THE SAME SCENARIO.

FACT:YOU GUYS AND GIRLS ARE SAYING THIS IS ABOUT ME AND TALIB AND NOT CHICAGO? THEN WHY DID HE BRING IN THE BAHAMADIA, BAD SEED THING? I DON'T SEE YOU PEOPLE BREAKING THAT DOWN? I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO, HE'S YOUR IDOL.

FACT: HE GOT DISSED ON THE INTERNET AFTER THE INSTORE WAS CANCELED. NOT BECAUSE OF TICKETS. WHY WOULD I DO THE INSTORE IF I HAD BEEF? THESE ARE FACTS THAT SOME OF YOU STILL CAN'T SOAK IT UP.

FACT: HE CHANGED HIS STORY TWICE, ABOUT THE FANS? THAT'S FACT.

FACT: HE SAY'S IM TAKING FOOD OUT OF HIS BABY'S MOUTH? WHAT WAS THE INSTORE FOR? THESE AGAIN ARE FACTS.

FACT: YOU SAY I SHOULD BE A MAN AND SQUASH THIS. I DID REACH OUT TO THEM IN THE LAST POST, THE FIRST POST. AGAIN I HAD NO IDEA HE WAS MAD, BEFORE THE INSTORE. HIS MANAGER SAID IT WAS COOL. NOW IF HIS MANAGER TOLD HIM THAT I WAS ON SOME B.S. THAT'S "HIS" MANAGERS DUMB MOVE. AGAIN THESE ARE FACTS.

FACTS: NO TICKETS IN THE FIRST PLACE? SO NO RADIO SHOW AFTER WARDS? NO POSTING WAS DONE THEN. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT HAVE ARTIST IF I CHOOSE NOT TO. I DO NOT GET PAID FOR DOING MY SHOW'S SO I DO NOT OWE ANYBODY ANYTHING. JUST LIKE YOU GUYS SAY KWELI DOESN'T OWE ME ANYTHING? YOUR RIGHT? SO NO LOVE MEANS NO LOVE. IN HIS POST HE SAYS HE HOOKS UP MAD PEOPLE, HIS FAM WHEN HE'S IN TOWN? SO HE CAN HOOK PEOPLE UP ANOTHER CONTRIDICTION. THESE ARE FACTS. THE SPELLING MAY NOT BE PERFECT , BUT THE STORY HAS NOT CHANGED. THESE ARE THE FACTS.

AGAIN IF YOUR GOING TO BREAK THINGS DOWN, THEN DO IT FROM BOTH POST. I KNOW SOME OF YOU MAY SAY WHO'S "3RDRAIL" APPARENTLY SOMEBODY WHO'S WILLING TO STAND UP FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN. "FANS" SOME OF YOU MIGHT SAY IM NOT TRYING TO SQUASH THIS? I'VE TRIED TWICE SO YOU CAN'T SAY I HAVEN'T. EVEN BEFORE THE BOYCOTT. I DON'T EXPECT YOU GUYS TO BOYCOTT, OR NOR AM I TRYING TO HAVE YOU SWITCH SIDES. IM JUST POINTING THE FACTS. SOME OF THESE POST HAVE BEEN THE SAME EXACT THINGS. SOME HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS. THAT'S WHY THE COUNTERS AT 200 PLUS. SOME OF IT IS ME JUST EXPLAINING THE WHO TICKET THING. NOW SOMEONE PUT I WAS IN IT FOR THE FAME, AND THEN TOOK THE QUOTE THAT I PUT ABOUT POSTING THIS UP ON ALL MESSAGE BOARDS. I SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED WHY I DID THAT, I RECIEVED TALIB'S REPLY THROUGH RECORD LABEL PEOPLE ON MY EMAIL. SO SOME ONE FROM HIS CAMP AND LABEL SENT A MASSIVE EMAIL OUT. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WHY DIDN'T THEY SEND THE EMAIL OF MY ORIGINAL POST ABOUT LET'S SQUASH THIS? COME ON, THERE NOT TRYING TO SQUASH THIS? SO AGAIN I ASK TALIB AND OR RAWKUS TO CALL ME AND LETS SQUASH THIS. ON THE PHONE YOU AND ME NO ONE ELSE. YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT AFTERWARDS. YOU DON'T NEED TO LIKE ME, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. LETS PUT AN END TO THIS BEFORE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL?
LOVE IS LOVE
DJ3RDRAIL

Squash it now.


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boMbAZeE da prophet
see post 163


hahaha

hmmm, now its getting interesting.



Talib vs 3rd, ding ding....


'when you pray, move your feet.' ~ African proverb

'work like its all up to you, pray like its all up to God' ~ African American proverb

is that black enough for you?

If he had cancelled the In-store and you had gotten tickets to the show in the first place, this would not be an issue.

Tell me i'm lyin.

Peace,
Phil

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i can't believe this shit's still going on...i don't think this problem could be solved a slower way. ditch the internet and use your voice!

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

YO for real 3rd rail..Why does he have to squash anything? Other than to stop you and your idolotors from some fake ass boycott that will only take hold within your city(and apparently some remote parts of Canada).
Why can't you(both of you) decide to just not like each other? I'm not understanding this ish. Not that I should have to but you cats are airing your dirty laundry for all to see. I've read all of the posts even the ones that are on your website 3rd rail, and still you and your peeps come off sounding like asses. Plenty of people don't like me, but I don't go trying to make them squash their beef with me. I'm just like fuck that cat. And who appointed you to be the "Voice of all college radio DJ's"? Standin up for what you believe in? What's a boycott of Talib gonna do for college radio DJ's? Do you think it's going to change the way all DJ's are perceived by artists and record labels? Just don't play his shit on your show. Don't have him in YOUR store. But stop this juvenile bickering back and forth.
Not that I'm saying Talib is much better, but it was you who took it to this level. If it weren't for you I don't think anyone outside of Chicago would know anything about this, other than the ones directly involved of course. But it was you posting shit here and on your site, not Talib until recently. Do you not see how dangerous this sort of shit this is? Not just for you and Talib but for hiphop in general. Word of advice. If you keep calling someone and they don't return your repeated calls, that usually means they don't want to talk to you. Get over it. The world doesn't end if someone disses you, and the world doesn't revolve around you or Chicago.
Just a tidbit for you
ChanEpic
Tha Stik Up Kidz are comin!!!!!

hey didn't crumb with a
wack ass monicker dicknyour mouth
or something started this post


just wondering


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YOu see? Asses! Straight up.
ChanEpic

>>>>If it weren't for you I don't think anyone outside of Chicago would know anything about this, other than the ones directly involved of course. But it was you posting shit here and on your site, not Talib until recently. Do you not see how dangerous this sort of shit this is? Not just for you and Talib but for hiphop in general. Word of advice. If you keep calling someone and they don't return your repeated calls, that usually means they don't want to talk to you. Get over it. The world doesn't end if someone disses you, and the world doesn't revolve around you or Chicago.<<<<<

Talib is a grown ass man - he was responding to someone calling him a bitch all over the internet - fighting fire with fire. The situation never would have gotten this far had the internet not been involved. Folks think this is 'just' the internet - but you are reaching thousands upon thousands of people when you send an email or post regarding an artist like Talib - because people spread the word.
It is dangerous for Hip Hop. Set your egos down and get back to business. I'd hate to see this escalate further.



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"That's bullshit, everything you just said is bullshit" Wesley Snipes


Yo, I don't think the beef between y'all two should have ever involed anybody else. Whoever's right or wrong, it doesn't make sense to me that you want to boycott somebody's music because you don't like them. On top of that, you want other people to join in the boycott over some beef that nobody was personally involved in. I think that's gay. If it's about standing up for something, then stand up and say you don't like the way Rawkus does business, or the way KWeli allows his label to do things on his behalf, don;t try to hurt the man's pockets over personal beef.

Shit, if you wanna stand for something, try boycotting that garbage ass negativity that y'all dj's get paid to spin (you know what I'm referring to.)

One.

"What makes equality such a difficult business is that we only want it with our superiors."
Henry Becque

"The metaphor is probably the most fertile power possessed by man."
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One day things will all fall apart...


Furious of RIPSQUAD

>>Shit, if you wanna stand for something, try boycotting that garbage ass negativity that y'all dj's get paid to spin (you know what I'm referring to.)<<

yes!!

Dove
~Sheepish Lordess of Chaos~

FACT: i've read all your posts and you constantly repeat the same damn things and everytime, whether from talib's point of view or your own, it just seems to me like you are just bitchin' and complainin' and starting shit for no reason.

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That shit put it all in perspective... ;-)


"I'm living so far beyond my income that we may almost be said to be living apart. "
- e e cummings (1894-1962)

and this is going nowhere. who is DJ3rdRail anyway?

i'm still gonna buy talib's shit.

Mez

"Brown is Beautiful"

Give that dude some front row seat for your next show, maybe send him some flowers or some scotch, really fuck shit up! Thank him on your next record. Give him a huge shout out!!


"I am an alien from the other world, from outer space, I don't have no land, no estate, no property, no house. Not on this earth. I live in space - I'm only a visitor here. Some people are only here to collect property. I am here with my suitcase to collect only the good brains."-Lee Scratch Perry

NO RULES, RULES.

How can anyone that maintains objectivity, not see that at this point THEY ARE BOTH DEAD WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talib's album is the bomb-NO DOUBT!, 3rd rail has a following of his own-NO DOUBT. Does that excuse either one of them from their own fist pumping ego's? There's so much testosterone in this issue, I think they both need to just jack off and let it go!
Most importantly(to me)right now, is that Tone(Hi-tek)be left out of ALL OF THIS DRAMA!!!!!!!!! 3rdrail publicly stated that he has NO BEEF WITH HI-TEK!!!!!!!!!. Personally, I think that Talib made an huge error in suggesting what Hi-tek had a right to do. Some fool could have taken his statement about Hi-tek "having a right to smack" 3rdrail and launched an attack on Tone! -Who I might add, is not thinking about this, because he's in the studio, doing what he does BEST!!!!!!! Speaking of which, I must return to my own personal endeavors, but TOne is a friend of mine and a very different person that Talib, which is why I hope his ego, won't let him get involved.
Last but not least, If individuals are concerned about their seeds, then they should continue rocking in the name of rightousness! That type of rocking doesn't allow ten minutes to hurl inflamatory remarks!. Especially when they could lead to violence!
too much violence in hip hop!

OK, if 3rd Rail thought that Kweli didn't come correct on his album, then why did he want tickets in the first place? WTF?



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don't post if u haven't been paying attention. 3rd rail has said a million times that he couldn't go to the show anyway...he dj's on sundays. he just wanted the same respect givin to the big station dj's that don't even play his shit......its crazy...WGCI here in chicago was givin out tickets to the okayplayer tour and the only okay artist song that they had ever played was "you got me" meanwhile hpk gets nuttin.....kkc gets nuttin...
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I don't know either party but in reading about this situation, it seems odd that Talib got so upset about a DJ that may not even have that much consequence over his album. It's odd to me that Talib felt threatened by remarks said by that DJ in the first place. And when I say threatened, I mean through album sales, not physically or anything.

On the contrary, (not knowing either party) it does not seem that odd that a DJ (college, underground?) would catch feelings from an artist not meeting his expectations whatever they may be.

So I am very surprised at Talib's reaction because I haven't gotten the part of the picture that shows why his buttons were pushed in the first place. I mean its like me saying to my friends don't buy the album.... Who am I and since the album is banging, they would laugh in my face. But the point is, I don't think that Talib would feel in the least threatened that my opinion would take food out of babies mouths.

I mean the album is tight. Even Snoop endorsed it on MTV during an interview--got him singing the chorus "Kweli". Can't ignore the truth no matter where your personal feelings lie about the artist.

So it is extremely odd to me that Talib had his hair raised by this in the first place. I mean we are all human, and maybe he just was having a hard day..week..month... what have you.

I'm curious to why this pushed his (TALIB) buttons in the first place. Other than Talib's reaction, it wouldn't have even gotten my attention (accept for its absurdity--boycott the album BWAAH!)


Peace, Love and Soul
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You're in Life's picture, so why must you cry?
It's okay, please dont delay from smilin', ple-eee-ee-ee-ee-ee-eeease
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I give it back,
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This is getting tired-
I will never check this thread or any other thread that mentions Talib and 3rdrail in the same subjet-heading.

One Word-

headhunter

<My 9-2-5 is just to kick it keep the party live>
-Blakthought

If Kweli was positive and pro-life like he says he is he would have went to 3rd Rail and talk about the situation just between them..Nobody else..What both of them did(Kweli and Third Rail)was wrong..but Kweli trying to discredit a cat from chicago in front of his peerd is mad disrespectful..If the tables were turned and 3rd rail did that in New York he probably wouldn't have made it to the airport..Kweli took it to the next level..Now its niggas in Chicago that 3rd Rail run with that got crazy reps in the street that can't wait to Kweli come back to Chicago..I'm from chicago(southside)and when you do something like that here you get a violation..And what Kweli did here on Chicago soil gonna get him a violation..I'm just stating the facts..Niggas in Chicago is really displeased with how Kweli conducted himself..Remember the fans is what make you or break you..I had to learn that the hard way myself as a up and coming artist..I feel like Kweli and 3rd Rail need to find a nuetral spot and pow-wow and squash this beef..Kweli ought to know better especially(Tupac and Biggie)..Nuff said

"Squash all beef/Don't let these arguments destroy us/ - krs-won

2000 Seasons(the whole song) - Kweli (also read the book)

>Attention all MC's, DJ's and people
>who participate in hiphop culture

When you see 3rd Rail BEAT HIS BITCH ASS.....nah I dont condone violence but when you act with bitch tactics such as those you should get everything that is coming to you, and in 3rd Rail's case that would be a THORO ASS KICKIN.

Much love to Talib and Hi-Tek-Dont even worry bout this wack cat someones bound to "de-rail" his dumb ass for his stupidity.
Keep making the music that we all love and appreciate.

OnE

Dont even worry bout this wack cat someones bound to "de-rail" his dumb ass



wow the de-rail was so original
i lmao so loud i almost ot in trouble
being on the internet

yo! i would like to thank all
of yall for keeping me awake at work
for the past two days(damn i got mad stuff done)
it's been truly real...but the topic
is dead, done deal, on to the next


and i'am going to give a shout out
to **** inc for having "free" internet
access

one love

lol

DJ's sell the records that MC's produce, I wouldn't write him off the same way that he is doing you...there is a much better way to handle this...it is pretty sad to see MC's fighting with DJ's...Whether or not 3rd Rail might be petty or not (mind you I don't know this guy) There has to be a way to handle this in a more adult manner. Facts from Fiction noone is in your shoes Talib so noone can judge...but at the same time this is probably a miscommunication, and shouldn't be handled in this manner...Publicly or otherwise Dissing anyone isn't going to solve the problem...getting on this board and retaliating won't solve the problem, you might want to say your side, and things but he puts a post up on his site, u put a post up on yours, he disses you on his show, u diss him on yours (it's a vicious cycle)...you have beef with 3rd rail and how he handles things then maybe you guys should sit down egos to the side and talk as men...(oh damn i forgot men don't talk, they just grunt, and nod) well...maybe u guys should get in touch with your feminine side...sit down with each other...hear each others side...vent that shit out, find out where the miscommunication is, solve it...and move on with your lives...but putting a post on this site, and dissing him how he disses you is kinda childish and is only going to add fuel to the fire, and if this guys ego is as big as it appears I would hate to see how this could end up...You know better than me (look at the source awards)...I know you want to tell your side, but tell it to 3rd rail...calling him a bitch isn't going to solve anything...This problem should be handled as such
here's the problem + here's the miscommunication = now lets find a solution and shake on it...I hope that I don't get flamed for this but I am just speaking the truth as I see it...
much love and respect
POSITIVITY MEN...

The bottom line is this. As many times as I spend $17+ on a bullshit CD, when I(finally)get some tight work like this album-ain't no way I'm going to be preoccupied with some petty bullshit like this situation. Mad respect to the work you and HiTek put into Reflections which in turn-turned me on to the Mos Def & Talib Blackstar album that somehow slipped by me. And HiTeks name should definitely be placed next to Pete Rock, Premier, Easy Mo Bee and all others on their way to legendary
status. And to all who disagree- yeah right. Jon P

You are both acting like a pair of twelve year olds.

To Third Rail: you're an underground DJ and as such you don't have a right to tickets to every fuckin show that comes through town. If you'd ever been on the road for a second, you know signings can be the biggest pain in the ass in the world. He bagged, but is it worth this beef?

Kweli, this whole fake gangsta posturing really makes me wonder what kind of revolutionary you are. Your shit stinks like a motherfucker--this guy was trying to put you on and you bagged on the signing. No huge deal, but it was unprofessional and he has a right to be pissed. Dissing him on stage in his city is beyond stupid--if anything's taking money out of your kid's mouth, it's dumb shit like that. Continuing this beef will only cost you record sales and perpetuate a negative vibe in an art form you claim to love.

Both of you need to cut this shit out, right now. It's beneath the dignity of both of you and it reflects poorly on real hip-hop. How is the cream supposed to rise when the underground can't stop with petty shit like this?

-----
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You like rock and roll, yet you have never heard of the Replacements, the greatest rock band of the eighties. If Paul McCartney got violated by Sid Vicious, the Replacements would be the offspring. Please buy a copy of their most exceptional work, "Let It Be," or download the song "Unsatisfied" from Napster. You can thank me later.

now my eyes hurt.

its ok though. I feel you about wantin to get all that shit out there and let people know the real

Talib Kweli,

Yo man whats up. You probably never going to see this message but I just want you to know nigga that I'm in Chicago right now, been here all my life and only recently have I begun to embrace hip hop and its culture. Its because of tracks by real mc's like you, Hi-Tek, Mos Def, Pharoh, Common, Tribe and others that I started embracing the music. Not becasue of some DJ out there who swears he knows what hes talking about just becuz he can spin two 12's and make the beat sound good. Its the message behind the lyrics that I have fallen to. And I personally believe you do it better then a lot of the mcs out there today. Then again, who am I to judge, but like you said i can have my opinion and thats it.

I know 3rd Rail. I use to promote hip hop/rave parties in high school and his ass would come along with Dj Funk and spin 2 hours of house and hip hop that brought all the crazy heads to my sets. I dont think it was becuz of them, I think it was becuz of the tracks they spun. Anyways, this nigga swore his cock was bigger then mine, trying to give orders and shit and I was like take ur ass to the door dude.. . I'll get my 17 yr old cuz to spin some hip hop, I dont need ur ass. And the same effect happened, everybody had a real good time. The point is that nigga talks shit and has his head in the clouds. He's been in Chicago too long and just becuz he spins hip hop and a lot of cats sweat him for it, he thinks everybody should bow to him. It reminds me of when WuTang got into it with Funkmaster Flex and that fatass wouldnt play WuTang on the radio. Thats fucked up that a Dj whop cant even MC himselff can have that much power. Those niggas deserve to get dealt with. Its fucked up man. Anyway, 3rd Rail aint nobody. His show is whack. There are better underground hip hop radio stations on Chicago's radio dial then his!! I never bought a 3rd Rail mix and I dont plan on it. Funny how no one up on this message board heard of his ass either until Talib came out here to clear the shit for all his fans. So lets leave his whackass where its at. In Chicago, spinnin 12's till he's 40. Makin no difference at all. While Talib and other real artists like him, change the culture of hip hop music and make it a culture that everyone can love and enjoy.


Peace out,

BluntedKid

P.s> next time ur in Chicago- - lets light up a fat One, Talib!!!

this may be deleted but at least i can say i tried. i am a vocalist and i just finished my demo and i'm putting together a press kit. i'd like to send it to you. maybe i could open for you. my material is excellent. just give me an address and you will be glad you did.
Alia Marie spacecowgirl_@hotmail.com or alia@ms.com
peace and love.
p.s. i am still impressed with your album. you are very intelligent and i wish continued success.

"Don't forget about strangers for many of you have entertained angels unaware."

"you've captured the tiger but the cubs are still loose." - marcus garvey

"don't forsake you. you are what you own. when you love you you'll never be alone."-me

how peeps is so surprised of how talib is actin'. okay it may be out of character for him but the what im tryin to say is that his name is talib kweli, not jesus christ! hes not perfect, hes a human like u and me, he puts his pants on one leg at a time, he has faults (as shown on this post) like u and me. so its trips me out on how peeps are so upset at how talib is actin'. jus because he may rap about positive shit dont mean he's always that way in real life. meanin' when someone pisses him off, he's gonna react, now it may not have went about it the best way, but jus like so many other people, he responded on pure emotion without thinking it through. does that make him a bad person? no. does it make him any less a person than what he was? not really, it jus makes him human

mad props to you
mfs shouldn't make assumptions. Peace

Talib didn't owe 3rd Rail tickets at any point.

3rd Rail did not owe Talib a radio guest spot at any point.

3rd Rail also does not owe Talib airplay on his show at any point.

So what we have here is two parties that expected something that wasn't owed them and got pissed about it, right?

Talib was heated about not being allowed to come on 3rd Rail's show. 3rd Rail did not owe him a guest spot. 3rd Rail did not have Talib as a high priority to be on the show at that point.

3rd Rail was heated about not getting free tickets to a show. Talib's priorities are apparently to get his "peoples" in ahead of 3rd Rail.

3rd Rail is currently exercising his very valid option not to play Talib Kweli on his radio show, just as Kweli is exercising his very valid option to continue screaming on 3rd Rail rather than accepting the previously proffered olive branch that would A. Squash the beef B. Stop the boycott.

Having read both sides of this, it's hard to see exactly where Talib's priorities lie at certain points. Let's start with the in-store no-show. Talib says he was on his way to do the in-store when he heard it was 3rd Rail's store. Upon hearing this, he decided not to go. Now, if hearing 3rd Rail's name was the deciding factor, that would mean that Talib at that point decided his dislike for 3rdRail made undertaking all of the negative fallout from pulling a no-show: disappointed fans, lost sales, ill-will with the store, etc., worthwhile. Which is a valid decision, although I personally think it can be considered a bad business move. Then he goes on to cite fatigue in his apology as the reason he stood up X number of fans who had nothing to do with the beef. Maybe I read that wrong, or perhaps the mere mention of 3rd Rail's name had such a Kryptonite-like effect on Talib that it sapped all of his precious autograph-signing strength and this is something most okp's were already aware of and I just found out about........

So either fatigue is the reason he stood peeps up, or hatred for 3rd Rail. Judging by when he had the car turned around, it seems to be the latter. If this is the case, he left innocent fans out in the cold and passed up potential sales by not showing up at the in-store. Considering he's concerned about food for his baby's mouth, I would argue that making the aforementioned decision as akin to cutting his nose off to spite his face.

Now, moving on, let's be honest about hip-hop being a business now. If so, profitable relationships must be cultivated to maximize success, correct? If DJ 3rdRail has all this clout, I would argue that the best thing for an artist such as Talib from a profitablity standpoint is to preserve at minimum a "quid pro quo" relationship with him. If we look at 3rd Rail's radio show/mixtapes, etc. as free advertising that reaches X,000 people, then the first guest spot on the show with no strings attached had significant value. One could argue that if 3rd Rail's promotion of Reflection Eternal resulted in even a one digit percentage of said population buying Train of Thought, giving 3rd Rail one ticket or a backstage pass is a small price to pay in comparison. Talib elected not to make said act of goodwill, and thereby lost access to the goodwill of 3rd Rail.

It's not a "bitch move" necessarily on either part, just two grown men with priorities that did not include cultivating a working business relationship between them.

The only things that I take issue with are:

1. Talib claiming 3rd Rail is taking food out of his baby's mouth. It's like this: if someone asks you for a favor, you decline, then turn right around and expect that same person to do you a favor, then scream on them when they are essentially doing you another favor, and they cut you off, chances are you MIGHT have brought it on yourself. At the point 3rd rail said, if we squash, there will be no boycott, and Talib says fuck squashing, he's starvin his own damn kid.

2. Talib blew off fans who had nothing to do with the beef. This also rolls back in to starving his kid, but at the point Jill Scott can brave the flu and do shows, in-stores, etc., we all know this was just his petty way of getting back at 3rd Rail and he didn't think beyond that. Or Jill Scott's a stronger person....

3. 3rd Rail taking anyone he knows playing Talib's music as a personal affront. I think it's unfair to expect everyone to jump in the boycott just because Talib's relationship management skills took a vacation.

My two cents.















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This shit is so petty. I can't imagine anybody leavin' Kweli off their playlists. Downright wack of 3rd Rail to suggest that to peoples.

I know one thing... Kweli, Hi Tek, Mos Def... u are all on my playlists. Still kickin here in NYC.

BeatNasty
www.beatnasty.com

While it is nice to see Talib's side of the story, the entire episode has left a bad taste in my mouth. The weird thing is, the bad impression I am left with is Talib's constant use of the word "bitch" in his post. He is very obviously using it to describe 3rd Rail as feminine and weak. I love how supposedly enlightened men can't seem to grasp this point. When white folk drop n-bombs to describe anyone, it is obviously wrong, and Kweli would agree. So how is it that men feel justified in using a word that solely defines women in a negative light and use it to put other men down? Time to do a little examining of self, I'd say.

My two cents...

SKN

Giving you true middle-eastern, native american perspective since 1969.

>While it is nice to see
>Talib's side of the story,
>the entire episode has left
>a bad taste in my
>mouth. The weird thing
>is, the bad impression I
>am left with is Talib's
>constant use of the word
>"bitch" in his post.
>He is very obviously using
>it to describe 3rd Rail
>as feminine and weak.
>I love how supposedly enlightened
>men can't seem to grasp
>this point. When white
>folk drop n-bombs to describe
>anyone, it is obviously wrong,
>and Kweli would agree.
>So how is it that
>men feel justified in using
>a word that solely defines
>women in a negative light
>and use it to put
>other men down? Time
>to do a little examining
>of self, I'd say.
>
>My two cents...
>

kinda makes you rethink 'for women' and all that '2000 seasons' talk. the more things change . . .

I think dat Common wrapped it up bezt when he did da song "The Bitch In You", nuff said except diz, itz eytha my dyrektyon or hyt da phunkyn matryx konnektyonz.....DAMMYT!!!!!

"Blast" Peace & Bytchy Chycken Greaze!

Check these two radio stations out if ya looking for some net surfin background music, which I listen to all da time (late in da evenings after 8:00pm).
http://www.wnyu.org or http://www.nyu.edu/wnyu/listen.html for direct listenin' pleasure &
http://www.kcrw.org/grid/
They have some great shows which play anything from Underground Hip-Hop to Deep House to smooth-out Trip-Hop !!!!!

and i asked him: does anyone give him grief in his hometown of chitown? he thought about it and said there was once this dj from chiton that gave him hell.

"what was his name?"

3rdrail...




"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

you all have his dick hard just by discussing him right? Obviously dude picks fights with pple that the masses give a fuck about to get pub. I never heard of this cat until that post about Kweli's response in Chi and I'm sure mad cats had never heard about him before, but now. I'd just ignore him, you know he's seen this post by now.


just my thoughts

carry on



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...now THAT'S WORD!!!!!!



Beat of the Week-
"Sharane"
Mic Geronimo 1994

I think you guys should just do a massive session cut, Talib and Com can rip 3rd Rail Evidence can take on Eminem again, wasnt there someone else that was dissing Com too? Well if there was diss them too.

Mann, please, please, don't bring Common into this bullshit. I am from Chicago, and understand 3rdrail and Talib's beef. But please leave Common out of it.

Fuck yeah Tlib I hear where your commin from do what you gotta do.

~peace

Syke

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
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backpackers are people too - me

"lick you like a lizard when im slizzard/ or so-ber/ six million ways to fold ya/ like noah/ i get twos of of you and you get PRETTY D" - big boi

"i feel like selena/ the president of my fan club wants to kill me" - el-p

Do it up FUNKY - me (and a whole lotta other people)
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

ELLAVA PANTA RE MALAKA!!! PONTOS!!! KOMNIMA!!! (greeks know)

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Fourth Element Crew comin' to a town near you
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

backpackers are people too - me

"lick you like a lizard when im slizzard/ or so-ber/ six million ways to fold ya/ like noah/ i get twos of of you and you get PRETTY D" - big boi

"i feel like selena/ the president of my fan club wants to kill me" - el-p

Do it up FUNKY - me (and a whole lotta other people)
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

ELLAVA PANTA RE MALAKA!!! PONTOS!!! KOMNIMA!!! (greeks know)

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
- Hectik One out the F.E.C

Fourth Element Crew comin' to a town near you
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

backpackers are people too - me

"lick you like a lizard when im slizzard/ or so-ber/ six million ways to fold ya/ like noah/ i get twos of of you and you get PRETTY D" - big boi

"i feel like selena/ the president of my fan club wants to kill me" - el-p

Do it up FUNKY - me (and a whole lotta other people)
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

ELLAVA PANTA RE MALAKA!!! PONTOS!!! KOMNIMA!!! (greeks know)

i was jus about to hit this shit up too! damn u and spirit!!!

dang i can't believe i read all of that... :o

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
- Hectik One out the F.E.C

Fourth Element Crew comin' to a town near you
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

backpackers are people too - me

"lick you like a lizard when im slizzard/ or so-ber/ six million ways to fold ya/ like noah/ i get twos of of you and you get PRETTY D" - big boi

"i feel like selena/ the president of my fan club wants to kill me" - el-p

Do it up FUNKY - me (and a whole lotta other people)
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

ELLAVA PANTA RE MALAKA!!! PONTOS!!! KOMNIMA!!! (greeks know)

actually imma get this biatch up to 1000.

an okayrecord.

i'll get talib to post again.

then it'll be on.

this post is goin diamond!



"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

as long as I can be number 777..7's my lucky number!

Much love,
Kyle

****************************************
You still want your harbor punk??...i'll show you your harbor...
between my legs baby...now dock that shit.
****************************************

Beat of the Week
"The Realness"
Group Home 1994

donwill was the first and my old post is the current record holder.

Come on ?uest....show me some mercy and let me keep the record dammit! I'll even take back my "I can beat you in Marvel Vs. Capcom and shooting pool" comment (damm.....I forgot Okayartists don't accept bribes).

S=281

what was heading?



"Jazz is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -wynton marsalis

"Hip Hop is heading down because of the task of acquiring the intellect to further it. The refusal to acknowledge the intellect required to produce the music with each generation gets weaker, because you can’t produce people with the intellect required to defend yourself from the attacks of the ignorant." -?uestlove

It was the blatantly titled "Attempt To Break Post Record" Post I made in General about a good 6 months ago. 1125 responses to that thing....good number for a post made to be a cure for boredom (mcbride215 was bored too....we had dueling posts for a while). Should have been archived...oh well. But that's the # to beat.

S=281

i mean a REAL post. like ....uh...MINE!!

just playing. i wonder if we have a post top ten.

who would be thriller?
who would be eagles greatest hits?

is this post of mine just an attempt to get to 400?


bwhhahahahahahahahaha!!!




the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 3-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)

i found this post about vivrant thing with the doc squeege method...on accident...that shit needs to be archived man!!...another classic..

those in general don't count i agree..because they're just people hittin' enter a buncha times...and the fact that people are still reading all this post to get the gist is TOO MUCH!!

Much love,
Kyle

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You still want your harbor punk??...i'll show you your harbor...
between my legs baby...now dock that shit.
****************************************

I'm just about to read this but tell me for real is all this by Talib ? cause it sure is damn long anyways gotta get readin

You see that lil' ol "ok" next to the ID? That means it's him (or he sold his OkayID to eBay and Tek bought it for 5 bucks)

Those are the perks of being an Okayartist/staffer/etc.....you get that nice lil "ok" next your name. Imagine the power you can possess....

Well ?uest, at the rate this post is going, looks like you're getting closer and closer to that goal of besting me.....or you could make a new category called "Record For Most Posts On A Serious Disscussion".

S=281

A post is a post is a post, so it counts, man! Know your loopholes and use em to your advantage is my motto.

But for real, if my post is Thriller, what is this post?

S=281

Something that sold about 12 million... maybe some nsync or backstreet boys.

bw

Does anyone know how far over the reply tree thing goes? Does it stop eventually?

bw

People were like "the boards will shut down at 1000", but I when past it, nothing happened.

S=281

Words To Live By #3,

"I am not afraid
to face tommorow,
I have seen
yesterday
and I live today." (c) Unknown

that they shut off at something computer-y like 32768 or 65536.. or there may be an angieee-programmed limit. did she respond?

bw

Can't we all just get along? We're all in the same gang!

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where im from theres only 2 real ways to handle shit like this

paper rock scissors
and
slap boxing

oh yeah...positive k dissed my grandmothers potato salad last easter. but he got scissors to my paper and as a man i had to accept that.

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Kweli,

Whether you know it or not,
many peeps look to your music
for inspiration and motivation.
Those who don't receive the same respect
look for ways to erode the image of those who do.
It's good that you addressed the situation
and told YOUR side of the story,
BUT let that be the end of the beef.
Niggaz nowadays take simple beef to a whole 'nutha level.
Continue to do what you do best
by blessing the world with insightful music.
We don't need anutha fallen soldier....

2 fingers, cuz
2Fingaz
wittblaque@blackplanet.com








>Attention all MC's, DJ's and people
>who participate in hiphop culture
>- It has come to
>my attention that 3rd Rail
>is asking people to boycott
>my records after I dissed
>the hell out him at
>my show in Chicago.
>I also thoroughly explained why
>I dissed him. I
>even called 3rd Rail on
>his show and explained it
>again after I heard his
>homeboys were all trying to
>figure it out. I
>didn't leave room for misinterpretation.
> I said, if you
>don't talk about me, I
>won't talk about you.
>Simple, ... right? Now
>he's spreading lies about me
>and asking people to not
>play my shit. Once
>a bitch, ... right?
>Now I have to defend
>myself again. Before anyone
>starts taking sides, you need
>the facts.
>
>Back in November, 3rd Rail wrote
>a letter on his website
>talking about Fuck Kweli, fuck
>Hi-Tek, ... Reflection Eternal is
>wack. Before you judge
>what I had to say
>in response to that letter,
>you should get a copy
>of it. I'm not
>really into the Internet like
>that, but I'm sure y'all
>can find it somewhere.
>
>Here are the facts:
>
>1) Me and Hi-Tek did 3rd
>Rail and V-Funk's show last
>year. They showed us
>mad love, we had fun,
>it was all good.
>I do hundreds of radio
>shows that I don't remember,
>but I remember this one.
>
>
>2) I came back to Chicago
>as a surprise guest on
>the Lyricist lounge tour that
>Mos Def headlined. I
>wasn't even billed to be
>there and I performed for
>15 minutes. Apparently, Rawkus
>called 3rd Rail that day
>and asked him if I
>could do the show that
>same night, but they didn't
>offer him tickets to the
>show (Lyricist Lounge). Even
>though he has a radio
>show Sunday nights and could
>not have gone anyway, he
>was personally offended that Rawkus
>overlooked his invitation. He
>didn't ask for a ticket,
>he was just upset that
>he didn't get one.
>In response, he decides to
>retaliate by saying I can't
>come on his radio show.
>
>
>I was looking forward to coming
>on the show and knew
>nothing about his ticket woes,
>which really have nothing to
>do with me. To
>say I can't come on
>the show because of that
>is a bitch move, ...
>period. But whatever.
>So anyway, the day I
>come back into Chicago for
>the Okayplayer show, my Rawkus
>rep calls 3rd Rail at
>the last minute to set
>up an in-store at the
>store he worked at.
>Problem was, they forgot to
>tell me about it until
>the last minute. I
>had already done 2 in-stores
>that day, I was tired,
>and it was getting close
>to showtime. When I
>heard people were waiting though,
>I was on my way.
>
>
>Then I hear that it was
>3rd Rail's store. Not
>two months earlier 3rd Rail
>said I couldn't do his
>radio show because he didn't
>get tickets to a show
>I wasn't even on the
>bill for. I'm thinkin',
>"I'm about to go out
>of my way for his
>in-store? Fuck That!"
>I turned the car around,
>said fuck 3rd Rail, took
>a nap and rocked my
>show with the Roots, Slum
>Village, Bahamadia, dead prez, Flo,
>the Jazzys, Jag and all
>the real fans who don't
>bitch and moan about the
>humanity of their artists.
>
>For all the fans who were
>at the in-store ... I'm
>sorry, but shit happens.
>Schedules conflict, people give out
>false info. If you
>take that kind of shit
>personal, that's your issue.
>I never agreed to do
>that in-store, Rawkus set that
>up. And if it's
>a choice between doing an
>in-store and getting enough rest
>so that I can rock
>properly, I gotta take care
>of myself. If I
>don't rock, ya'll don't buy
>the records, and there is
>no in-store.
>
>Now, I definitely said fuck 3rd
>Rail to myself, but I
>would never cast a public
>judgment on somebody. If
>I think he's a dick,
>it's not my job to
>try to make you think
>that. Obviously, he sees
>shit differently. Without EVER
>having a conversation with me
>about it, he decided to
>get back at me by
>writing about me on his
>website. The same way
>he did about What What
>and BadSeed (brooklyn MCs) when
>they canceled a show in
>Chicago because Seed was sick.
> Him and V-Funk dissed
>my record, said they are
>not playing my shit, and
>wrote fuck Kweli, fuck Hi-Tek,
>all over this ticket and
>in-store business.
>
>People said I should not have
>dissed 3rd Rail on stage,
>but it was only in
>response to him dissing me
>on his website. Which
>is more public? This
>letter from V-Funk and 3rd
>Rail, this public display of
>assumption, ignorance and hate, is
>why I dissed 3rd Rail.
> That was some sensitive
>little bitch shit. Nigga
>sounding like a crying little
>girl because he can't get
>tickets, so he takes it
>out on me? Hi
>Tek really don't have anything
>to do with this, but
>he said fuck Hi Tek
>too? Hi Tek has
>the right to smack the
>shit out of him.
>3rd Rail made a conscious
>decision to put himself out
>there, so I called him
>on it. His boys
>is mad at me because
>they have a bitch in
>they crew. Who is
>he to say that I
>don't care about my fans
>because I didn't come to
>his in-store? Fuck 3rd
>Rail! What kind of
>man acts like that?
>A bitch ass nigga!
>After I read that shit,
>I found out he was
>mad at Bahamadia for not
>getting him tickets for our
>show. You see ya'll
>this is something he does.
> He feels like since
>he plays our records, that
>we should be more grateful
>and be getting him into
>shows. When I come
>to Chicago, I have mad
>names on my guestlist ...
>MY PEOPLES NAMES. I
>don't know 3rd Rail like
>that. Y'all see a
>pattern with this guy?
>
>For those of you that like
>and respect 3rd Rail, I'm
>sorry, but I call 'em
>like I see 'em.
>He's a bitch, no ifs
>ands or butts. Who
>is he to assume why
>I didn't make that in-store?
> I don't make records
>for 3rd Rail, I make
>them for myself and I
>share them with the world.
> The hard reality is,
>as a DJ, you don't
>owe me shit. As
>an MC, I don't owe
>you shit. If you
>play my record, I appreciate
>it. You don't have
>to play it. Out
>of the thousands of DJ's,
>why does 3rd Rail think
>he is special? What's
>wrong with him? Fan,
>artists, MC, DJ, whatever, if
>I want to see a
>show, I buy a ticket
>and I go. I
>took what he said about
>me personal. I did
>not respond over the Internet,
>I came to his city
>and responded on stage in
>front of his people.
>Contrary to what you may
>have read, if you were
>there, you know I still
>rocked that motherfucker. Chicago
>was live as usual and
>they gave it up for
>the truth. That night,
>when he gave his half
>ass one sided version of
>the story on his radio
>show, and his boys were
>makin idle, laughable threats, I
>called his show and told
>him why I thought he
>was a bitch. He
>couldn't really respond because I
>was dealing with facts and
>he was dealing with assumptions
>and his own insecurities about
>his place in hip-hop.
>If you don't believe me,
>get a tape of his
>show from that night and
>listen to how I told
>him about himself for almost
>an hour on his own
>show. It's ridiculous that
>I'm still responding to this,
>because my reasons have been
>very clear. Just because
>you are on the Internet
>does no give you the
>right to cast judgments on
>people. He did that.
> I checked him.
>These are the facts, it
>has nothing to do with
>hip-hop, it has to do
>with respect. I never
>told anyone to not do
>his show, I never said
>don't buy his mix tapes.
> He had a communication
>problem with someone at Rawkus
>and decides to put fuck
>Kweli and Hi-Tek on the
>Internet? This is the
>second time he's tried to
>get folks to boycott my
>music. He is trying
>to take food out of
>my babies mouths. NOW we
>have beef! If y'all
>wanna boycott me because I
>ain't make the fucking in-store
>and because Rawkus neglected 3rd
>Rail when they made their
>guestlist for some show, go
>ahead. But that makes
>you more of a bitch
>than he is, and real
>men know that this is
>a business, not to be
>taken personally. Telling people
>that I don't care about
>my fans and telling them
>not to buy my shit
>makes you my enemy.
>Anybody who's met me and
>been to my shows knows
>that I love and respect
>this culture. This will
>be my last response until
>I see 3rd Rail.
>One love to the real.
> Death to the Fake.
>
>
>Talib Kweli
>
>P.S. Somebody would boycott his punk
>ass if it was worth
>it, but it's not.
>He's fucking himself up.
>

And either started posting like: I'm sorry Talib i'm really a bitch, or said, Talib Kweli and OKP can suck my Dick...fuck yall...Someone needs to diss Scratch so he can post...Fucka Jigga Jigga Mouth Sound


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
PEACE

Esco:STILL Unforgetable and Unfuckwitable
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What I see day 2 day brings tears to my eyez/And what I holla @ a nigga brings ears to my cries~DMX

Don't F*CK with the Tiger

(Originally posted at 3rd Rail's website)

Music is music, and it's all good.

I don't care if it's hip hop, reggae, acid jazz, dnb, pop, or whatever. Like Jazz, I won't segregate music, decide what's 'true', and draw lines in the sand. I'll listen to it and absorb it all since everyone has their unique flavor to add. That's me in a nutshell.

I have a few things to say and I'll be on my way.

Liquid's right, this beef between 3rd and Talib/Rawkus it turning into grade-ish nonsense. Fans/friends on both sides are tellin' each other to do very vulgar things. All the cussing and pot shots are making me sick. The profanity makes you sound uneducated. I don't want to be a part of it.

Talib shouldn't have skipped out on the instore and dissed his fans.

3rd should have devised a written contract since this was business related. Even among friends, I write up contracts so problems like this don't come between us.

Tailb shouldn't have been cussing on WNUR or dissed 3rd on stage.

Fans shouldn't have slamming Talib or 3rd on petty issues or dissing entire cities.

Both of them shouldn't have taken their private feelings about each other into public because this isn't the Jerry Springer Show.

They both should have settled this out of court, the court of the public eye.

Next time, 3rd should graciously refuse to help Rawkus, and as his personal boycott and tell his network of people not to work with Rawkus because of what went down.

Rawkus and Talib doesn't have to give 3rd promotional singles to put into his mixtapes and stop asking 3rd Rail to do promotial type things with him.

I don't care who started it. Both of them should have been humble and gracious enough to admit they both messed up.

Both parties are at fault due to their choices. I will still buy 3rd's mixtapes. I will still buy Rawkus material.

It's simple as that. I've probably left some supporting points out but it's done with. There's no point to fighting. It's just a waste of energy and a waste of time. Consider this beef squashed.

peace,
--mellfluous


BTW- Liquid, if you're reading this, email me at mellifluous@chicago-music.com or mellifluous_soul@excite.com. I'm interested in what you're up to in Chicago. :)

"He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know."
-- Lao-tzu's "I Ching"

dunno, whole thing seems out of balance.

it's on talib to make the truce.

cause this is the point at which it went wrong:

>bill for. I'm thinkin',
>"I'm about to go out
>of my way for his
>in-store? Fuck That!"

rawkus messed up but that's your in-store too.

prolly would've aired it all out at that very meeting.

so now we have this.

which is okay though, one artist and one dj.

don't really see it having to effect anybody else.

these posts'll be gone in a week anyway.

if these guys don't run through every form of media with this.

got to admit, I can see myself in 3rd rail's shoes.

but kweli's got to be a bigger man than that, surely.
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mr. dj3rdrail, if ur mad about the tickets, just sneak in the damn venue, u must know someone at the door.


as for kweli, i love u man! ur music has made me groove, think, love, live, and realize. u keep on!not to mention that im playin kweli at my wedding.



-----------

Koreans in KOREA!!!!! -talib chuquee

take a bath, wash ya self(sing that to mystical's beat)

"leave chicks pigeon-toed" - jay-z

kweli organized his thoughts neatly and i was able to read and understand everything. he had an introduction, body , and a fat conclusion that made everyone respond, now thats what i call an essay.

kweli needs to help me write some of my papers so i can pass my english class.

writin some depositions and ish!

-----------

Koreans in KOREA!!!!! - talib chuquee

take a bath, wash ya self(sing that to mystical's beat)

"leave chicks pigeon-toed" - jay-z

These guys are 2 of the most talented individuals in hiphop today. I love them both, and I think that they are both honestly, truly great......


FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!!!


Lighten up people. Its only a rapper and a dj.
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Peace,
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******the sigs to end all sigs******

"You hold my heart like the night does the stars.I love you."

I love you too!!!!

5 Deadly Venom Spitters - No One is Safe
Especially your stupid ass, bee-otch!!!!

I like the way you stepped to him with just the facts.
I just hope it remains a battle of words..we don't need no more Biggie & Tupac stuff jumping off!!!!

Much love,
Kyle

****************************************
You still want your harbor punk??...i'll show you your harbor...
between my legs baby...now dock that shit.
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Yo, that's crazy that he is dissing you like that. I also want to say that rebirthmag.com's store is full of shit. I ordered the mixed Juice from them like over a month ago and I still don't have it. To everybody who reads this DO NOT ORDER FROM THEM. They are full of shit!!!!!!!!! x(
Soletaker = Do for yourself and no one else.

}>

>Yo, that's crazy that he is
>dissing you like that.
>I also want to say
>that rebirthmag.com's store is full
>of shit. I ordered
>the mixed Juice from them
>like over a month ago
>and I still don't have
>it. To everybody who
>reads this DO NOT ORDER
>FROM THEM. They are
>full of shit!!!!!!!!! x(
>Soletaker = Do for yourself and
>no one else.

Listen to yourself: "(This is completely besides the point but we are talking shit about chicago so...)Rebirth is wack"
What the fuck?

Boycott is about as stupid as it gets..and that goes both ways

Both sides need to chill... Most of you dont know Talib Kweli or 3rd Rail, and probably never will, so why hold a grudge? Let them fight their own battles and enjoy their music instead.

PS!! Im sorry your Juice album hasnt arrived yet, cus that shit is tight. But its no need to start a world war over it. I'm sure it will arrive soon, so hold your horses...

- Im so ahead of my time, I got constant jet-lag...
- Todays mc's are like cows/they die for beef

Yo, Futuristic
I don't have anything against Chicago. I would love to go out there one day. My post was really about Rebirth Mag. I wanted to get that off of my chest about how long it's taking them to send the fucking CD. I made three orders from hiphopsite.com before I made the order for the JUICE cd and I got all three orders back. So, I'm saying this, if Rebirth Mag didn't have enough CD's made, why would you even put the item on sale???
Maybe one day I'll get the CD, hopefully it will be this year.

Soletaker = Do for yourself and no one else.

i got your reflection eternal. and its hot the people like it.
as for him trying to start a boycott fuck him

one
vil

"i took and oath the day i was made!"
-tony soprano-

Pure Hip-Hop cant be boycotted. To many cats need it to breath, so all this boycott talk is nothing to worry about. With this beef floating around Kweli is still gettin it done. Talib is doing four shows in three days here in the Bay Area(Palookaville in Santa Cruz 11th, opening for Erykah at Paramount in Oakland on the 13,14, Justice League after Erykah on the 14th). I was fortunate to see two of thease shows, and Kweli was on point. I have never seen Kweli with so much adrenaline and energy, show at Palookaville was simply nuts( Ending with For Woman).

:pronounced Hay-Soos

i ain't boycottin no damn body even if i represent chi.

maybe folks forgot but this is hip hop.

take it to a battle onstage or some shit, but why the hell fans gonna boycott any artist that did them no wrong?

make a rhyme about it, dis somebody in a song, but it's pussy shit to follow the leader.

peace.
starli
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Man I wasn't gonna boycott your shit over you dissing somebody.I probably would have reacted the same way.Nice to see you on the boards.

NOn-believers get my dick and genitals backwards-Redman

One1

alittle bummed that this thread has gotten many times more replies than when Kamal and wife had the baby?

I mean, we have a choice: build or destroy.

Looks like we making the wrong one. :(

talib that was steamin, didn't think it was you but that post was hot..........don't know this 3rd guy but lil'sis here loves Reflection eternal cause we retoflectin the tracks

Onle love E

I would love you even if you were in the wrong! I know you were not, but you're talent is too good to give up over beef.
Stay Real. Love Nat.

Question: "Are we at post #400 yet mommy?"
Rememba diz, itz eitha my dyrektion or hit da phunkyn matryx konnektionz.....DAMMYT!!!!!

Peace & Chicken Greaze!

Check these two radio stations out if ya looking for some net surfin background music, which I listen to all da time (late in da evenings after 8:00pm).
http://www.wnyu.org or http://www.nyu.edu/wnyu/listen.html for direct listenin' pleasure &
http://www.kcrw.org/grid/
They have some great shows which play anything from Underground Hip-Hop to Deep House to smooth-out Trip-Hop !!!!!

365 POST... BITCHES!!!!

Peace,
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"I'm thinkin', "I'm about to go out of my way for his in-store? Fuck That!" I turned the car around, said fuck 3rd Rail, took a nap and rocked my show..." ~~Talib Kweli 03/08/01

"no in fact, when growing up her parents instilled in her that love is black and only black. if u see white love anywhere, KILL IT!" ~~fire 2/19/01

"3:57 am... i am still in the eletric dungeon working on song number 32 (not complete, but demos before we start writing) for massa's "waterbaby" record." ~~qoolquest 3/08/01

"what i want to know is who called that muthafucka a piccolo player?
where im from theres only 2 real ways to handle shit like this paper rock scissors and
slap boxing oh yeah...positive k dissed my grandmothers potato salad last easter. but he got scissors to my paper and as a man i had to accept that. ~~mcScoobySnack 3/10/01

Aw shit! I transposed the numbers... or did I???
that's 357 now right??

Where the hell is he??? He hasn't posted since the first one. Did this come across the way he had intended???
Is he reading the responses???
Does he even care??? Where in good Jesus...

Quest... massa' say go fetch'm b'fo suppa'!! Or Else!!

Peace,
Mecca 2001 A.D.

"I'm thinkin', "I'm about to go out of my way for his in-store? Fuck That!" I turned the car around, said fuck 3rd Rail, took a nap and rocked my show..." ~~Talib Kweli 03/08/01

"no in fact, when growing up her parents instilled in her that love is black and only black. if u see white love anywhere, KILL IT!" ~~fire 2/19/01

"3:57 am... i am still in the eletric dungeon working on song number 32 (not complete, but demos before we start writing) for massa's "waterbaby" record." ~~qoolquest 3/08/01

"what i want to know is who called that muthafucka a piccolo player?
where im from theres only 2 real ways to handle shit like this paper rock scissors and
slap boxing oh yeah...positive k dissed my grandmothers potato salad last easter. but he got scissors to my paper and as a man i had to accept that. ~~mcScoobySnack 3/10/01

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HALLELUJAH! FIRE'S POSTS'LL DO YA!!!

the baby daddy proverb:
Cover yo dick so you won't have to cover yo ass! - my sister

"ya'll sincerely need to shut the fuck up!" - freehuey

yeah! yeah! what, bitch what! eff a 3rd rail!
he aint got no albums in my car mu-fucka!
3rd rail aint shit!
thats all i gotta say...
pbua

absolutely ridiculous is what this post is...

of course i's gots to aid the madness

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

Kweli is right, Rail is wrong. I just wanted to post in this even though it should be dead.

should be dead?...shit's dead

i think it's still going cause of asses like me who post for no reason

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

It will never die....

reminder not to fuck with OKP,

plus it would be incredible to get his up to 400+

a kweli thank you post at the bottom should do it..........

shieeet!

you know i ain't against it...why would i keep postin'???

we should talk about somethin' though....

.......uhhhh.......mmmmmm........uhhhhhh......

alright i think i might hurt myself with all this thinkin'

i better rest

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

**************
"I met a critic
I made her shit her draws
she said she thought hip hop was only guns and alcohol
I said "OH HELL NAW!"
but yet it's that too
you can't disrimahate cause you done read a book or two
what if I look at you in a microscope
saw all the dirty organisms
living in your closet
would I stop and would I pause it"
-Andre 3000~Humble Mumble~Stankonia-

"I tell my body to obey my soul, and thus I never tire"
-Unknown-

"Like the rain to the dirt, from the vine to the wine, from the alpha of creation, 2 the end of all time"
-D'angelo~The Root~Voodoo-

"All that is beautiful in life does not have to be in the form of perfection. When we are torn down to our bare selves is when we find our true worth. The rawness, the filthiness that we hide from on a daily basis is what brings out the pinnacle of our being. I want my soul, my ESSENCE to be uncut, raw, nonconforming, and FILTHY ... Only then will I know my true value."
-Filthy Essence~Thoughts of Me-

i will be the 400th post. i don't care if i gotta push this shit up 25 more tim....

hmmmmmmmmm....




the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)

don't be so sure sucka!

the battle is on...

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

....this sh*t still goin on???



Beat of the Day
"Toss It Up"
Zhigge 1991

As long as I get 420.

bw
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http://www.hiphopcongress.com creepin up on ya....

bw
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bw
aim: okayplayer47
ben.walker@hiphopcongress.com

i think i can (c) the little engine that could

bw

bw

bw

Words To Live By #3,

"I am not afraid
to face tommorow,
I have seen
yesterday
and I live today." (c) Unknown

just making the game more fun
and talking to myself
because i'm bored

bw

"My grandmother always tol me Jason, beware ov ur surroundings/ Ya friends ya countin on could also be ya drownin/ She said life is jus a journey and we all on ships/ So get sum ownership, before you end up, unda the ocean ov wasted talent/ Where the coulda shoulda people sit an mope/ My ambition reflects success to my ol school folx/ Jus keep ya head up/ Its got ta get betta, becus its written/ I know sumtimes it seems the negativity wont let up"--Planet Asia

"You guys, stop fighting, you're scurring me."

-Adam Sandler

what's the record on responses to a post???

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

i think biggest in archives is 253

what about ones way back? i can remember some birthday posts lst year gettin pretty large

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

dickridhas 370
unbias cats 10


looks like an slaughter ppls


damn this post is full of white sticky
shit!!!
}>




niggas asked who i connect with i sd
a vest,teck, and extra gun clips
capone/firestarr album

for a post that is over 400 anyway?!

that's nut shit.



the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)

it seems about the in-store that 3rd rail is more pissed about having to pay promoters (aka, having to give pizza and 5 bucks to some kids to pass out cheap-ass flyers). Has anyone thought to send his ass 5000 pennies or something to cover any "loss"?
hope this helps, ?uest...
BE the 400!

benine

Peace and Guacamole - Dub

sig reads like this - Mr. Lif, Akrobatik, and KRS ONE at the Orpheum Theatre in Boston April 1st.

Peace and Guacamole - Dub

sig reads like this - Mr. Lif, Akrobatik, and KRS ONE at the Orpheum Theatre in Boston April 1st.

Peace and Guacamole - Dub

sig reads like this - Mr. Lif, Akrobatik, and KRS ONE at the Orpheum Theatre in Boston April 1st.

bw

bw

"but 500 is minez"

group home remix.



the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)

oh word? We'll see there Quest Blakey.

Peace and Guacamole - Dub

sig reads like this - Mr. Lif, Akrobatik, and KRS ONE at the Orpheum Theatre in Boston April 1st.

shuckers!
sucka motha fuckers, too quick at postin'
keepin' me from boastin'
bout number four hundred
it keeps me wondrin'
how far this shit will go?
up to 500?
okayplayers only know
now ?uestion, he be guessin' that the post be his
but he ain't no wiz at future tellin' only sellin'
the records he be makin', no fakin', unlike me
tryin' to emcee on this freestyle, it's like my child
i gave birth to the wackest rhyme and i'm running out of lines
i must decline my future thoughts cause they make me sick
choose and pick they all wack shit
it's twistin' my gut so my stomach i clutch
this post blows sweaty sasquash nuts!

.....and i'm out

(this is why people say white boys can't rhyme. i ain't helpin' the cause)

PEACE!

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

i was just looking back at this shit i wrote yesterday. there's nothing like looking back at the stupid shit in life.

anyway, i just figured i'd give this another bump to the top

peace

shmooz

"i wanna be a pioneer so trails i blaze"

"hip hop you're the love of my life"

bw
aim: okayplayer47
ben.walker@hiphopcongress.com

--
"I like violence, if it's cool." - K. Koby

"Australia is big as f***!" - will.i.am

"Tunak tunak tun!" - daler mehndi?

HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT THESE SONGS ARE:
http://www.brandeis.edu/~benw/1.ram
http://www.brandeis.edu/~benw/2.ram
http://www.brandeis.edu/~benw/3.ram
http://www.brandeis.edu/~benw/4.ram

http://www.hiphopcongress.com creepin up on ya....

haha, they were just too quick for ya~



1. ROCK YOU!
2. respond/react
3. section
4. the next movement
5. clones
6. distortion to static
7. concerto of a desperado
8. the pros (riq changed it to "the root's taking over!")
9. nothing new
10.the lesson pt 1
11.china raw (why dice calls it this i don't know....)
12.double trouble
13.what you want
14.lesson part3
15.proceed
16.adrenaline
17.you got me
18.silent treatment
19. solos

This is how they ROCK Shit!!!!!!!!

AND A SWEATSHIRT.....FOOL.....YOU CAN'T EVEN F^^K WITH THAT!!!!

the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)