so far its pretty good but im a run down the tracks and yall are gonna critique em

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I just like it! I like it! Crap? What the hell were people looking for?

Beat: 3.5/5 - a definite head nodder
Lyrics: 4/5 - "people ask me how we wearing diamonds when there's little kids in Sierra Leone losing arms for crying while they're mining" deep

Dope intro

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Beat: 2.5/5 - Beat sounds dated, like it could of been a remix for De la's "Ooohh"
Lyrics: 3/5 - Not really digging the hook

As with pretty much most of the album. Yall cats be expecting all these artists, including Kweli, to be on the same tip and pumping out the same shit...expand your musicial horizons, cause you guys got left behind on their classics and cant move past them.

And I am thinking for myself, so dont call me a rider or any of that bullshit.

Definitely a banger, and

>expand your
>musicial horizons, cause you guys got left behind on their
>classics and cant move past them.

exactly, I'm not feelin everything Kweli does, but he's pretty damn eclectic and his stuff is definitely some next shit.

"Yo Hi Tek, Back up offa me" even though he wasnt really sayin it to tek, it just sounded like he was dissing and it made me laugh. Listen to the beginning of the song

Plus Phil tha Agony is on it

n/m

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It's the beat that lil bow used ( in the background) and I loved the lil bow wow beat then! Remember, lil bow wow, you just don't know....Anyways, I bought the album online(download) so i'm going to guess it's a neptune beat, cause it was a neptune beat when bow wow did it! Am I correct?

I don't like the beat, lyrics on point.

throwaway beat? lmao.

Neptune? Cause the neptunes used this for Lil Bow Wow like two or three years ago.

some of their tracks can sound very similar (just like any other producer) but I doubt it was the same identical thing.

Was the song released as a single? cuz i think i know what you're talking about. and if that's the one, then it doesn't sound alike.

IT'S THE lil bow wow, you just don't know.......it's not the exact same, but the back ground bells, exactly! Clearly neptune, if it is!

same instruments/sounds for a lot of tracks. Some of their songs they use the same synthesizer,bells, whatever. but like i said........its not the identical beat.

I don't think I ever said it was, point is, I immediately thought lil bow wow, so it's close enough, but anyways I like the song alot! So can you look at where i asked a question about the we know song. Maybe you can answer it! Thanks!

as well. I aint never heard this Neptunes beat no where before.

So far he's been flowin' as well.

>Neptune? Cause the neptunes used this for Lil Bow Wow like
>two or three years ago.

the neps joint is sick...

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I have a question which might make you have to go back and really listen to this song. In the beginning,is he talking about a different girl than at the end? He mentions the girl being an impossible love, a horizon that he can never ride into and that they can never be. Now the second part is a different subject matter completely, it's his girlfriend he's talking about and that's obvious, but the first part sounds like a different girl. What do you think?

Oh yeah I liked this song, kinda.

Is he describing two different situations? It makes the difference between if I love it conceptually, or I think it's just ok! If he's describing two different scenario's in his life, then I love it. The girl he can't really go there with, and then the girl that he's with. The concept of feeling like that and putting it in a song is cool cause it deals with real life. If it's all the same chic, BORING!!!!!!!!!!!

laid back change of pace after 3 upbeat bangers. This was smart and is a good song. Someone said that he sounded out of place on this. I disagree completely and totally on that nonsense.

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that the first few times he says 'baby' sounds completely unnatural and just...not good? it doesn't flow well, and is a little ridiculous sounding.

Beat: 4/5 - This beat is sick, I don't care what anybody says
Lyrics: 4/5 - "A" game flow

at all. Depends on the day and how I feel, but I usually skip this.

This is probably the worst song on the album.

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who woulda thought talib + mary j would produce such a shytty ass song...

i like this song. Mary is dope on here. solid kwe performance.

Sounds much better on the album than live...mary really has a sweet tone and good delivery..its grown on me..

Kanye could have done more on the track and its remiscent of get by but I like it.

Doesn't do much for me live though might be cause Kweli's backup singer oversings sometime screams (which is common when you're trying to get put on)

get by cause I try, to get by cause I try! Tee Hee!!!!!!!!!! That could be the remix verse! I like it, but I don't know if he needed Mary J. on this one. If the video gets madd rotations, then good mood, but I hope he has a video with Natalie Portman, better move! Isn't Mary's career over? I'd say she's over! As long as she's happy, I don't want to hear another song by her. Unfortunately, Mary makes better songs sad! This is one of the better moments for her considering her last shit! I'm so over Mary, that Talib is actually bringing her back to life for me.

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Beat: 4.5/5 - This bassline rides out
Lyrics: 4/5 - Kweli and Blige sound good together, you can never front on Mary.

but for obvious reasons i'm not all the way into it. Its just cool.

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this one. This is a complete song. Not my favorite though. I don't always get into the slower songs on hip-hop albums.

He did what a lot of emcee don't do on songs like this--STAYED ON SUBJECT!!!!! He also talked about something but he's known for that so its all good.

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wow. this is really whack. wow.

Remember, we got the beat, or did he use that? I honestly didn't make it through this one in the first sitting, but i'm coming back around for it when I ride to work in the car! Something about listening to music in the car! I like anything with an 80's flair, so i'll still vote for this one!!!!!

Holy crap

so I'll say it again:
holy crap. That Kweli would stoop this low is beyond belief.

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So far I'm the only one in this post... I dunno, I'm diggin it.
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b4 this song i was like this cd sux!!! res fit this song perfectly.

the song is subpar

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This beat is NOT for kweli. This sounds like a mannie fresh beat and is suitable for lil wayne but NOT kwe.

I didn't dislike the beat, but the chorus wasn't good.

I see what your saying about Kwe not fitting on this one. That chorus is UGCKK!!!! He did stay on point flowing to this. My gangsta homeboys love this shit though.LOL

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HOLY SHIT!!! HE ACTUALLY LIKES SOMETHING!!!!!!!

"A lot of Cats who buy records is straight broke, but my musics universal they be reciting my quotes" Talib Kweli

literally, I think it's nice, like not banging, not dope, NICE, and needed! It demonstrated something......positive, yeah that's it! It still gets my vote cause I can play it in the classroom, so thumbs up once again! Go Kweli, go Kweli...

this is the only song that is typical OKP. The beat has a regular bounce to it. Dope but normal.

I'm glad he only went with one song like this. I wanted to see him switch his style up. Too many songs like this and I would have went crazy.

Love the first Kweli line...

"If lyrics sold, truth be told, I'd prolly be, as rich and famous as Jay Z."

I know that's a play off of a Jay line from the Black album, but I like how he flipped it.
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Guess you have to be a black girl to LOVE that song, I can't wait to play it for the little girls in my room from Africa that hold their heads so low! Talib, I love you for that song man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK ANY WHITE BOY WHO TRIES TO TALK SHIT!!!!!!!!BOUT THIS SONG!!!!!!!! HE didn't make it for your ass ok? Get that? Got it? Good!!!!!!!!

Beat: 4.5/5 - These new batch of producers are impressive
Lyrics: 5/5 - I'm partial, i'm raising a couple of black queens, so I can relate. The vocalist is hot as well.

you gotta read the liner notes cause it doesnt say she is on that track on the back of the CD

I like this shit. I slept hard on Jean Grae. My lawyer has been saying that she's dope for years. I just thought she was cool, but hearing her on this and the Roots joint got me checkin' for her. Not cuz of who she apeared with, but because she sounds hungry and not sleepy on these.

What Roots joint was Jean Grae on ?

>What Roots joint was Jean Grae on ?

"A lot of Cats who buy records is straight broke, but my musics universal they be reciting my quotes" Talib Kweli

well a tie between this and the song with Common and A Hamilton

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this should be a single, with a tite video a la angie stone's "black brother", but with sistas of course...i love this song jean really killed it and the chorus sounds way betta than the leaked version.

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Beat: 4.5/5 - If I was to create a soundtrack with a 70's soul theme, I would tap JustBlaze, this beat takes it back to the essence.
Lyrics: 4/5 - Tight

something, this shit is brilliant and I have already tested it in the type of club it can be played in. It works.

Is Geffen Smart?

... the only track i was feeling without thinking WHY I LIKE IT...found nothing wrong with it...
AS FOR THE REST OF THE CD, i agree with FMWJ!!!
maybe it'll grow on me...
--3rd

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Dear Talib,
This song is truly what I know of you, who you are, how you think and the beat is great to me! You break down exactly what people need to hear from you, politic's, the whole nine! FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD, THE SONG IS SIMPLY BANGING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yo fuck these haters son!

hi-tek's best beat on the album. Nice and smooth. I like the guitars. Solid performance by kwe. One of the better moments on the LP.

I fully agree! One of the better moments, and I loved the album!

Beat: 5/5 - Dammit now that's the Hi-Tek I know, what took you so long bro.
Lyrics: 5/5 - Best joint on the album...

Studio question: What kind of filter is on the hook to make it sound like that?

nothing really much more to say.

but me liking 4/13 songs equals a sucky album in my book, but black girl pain alone was worth the Target price...i guess...

The fact that you sat there and waited for someones response is totally funny. Get a life dude. The album is hot and for all those that said it was mediocre, I know better to listen to you cats. To me it has more of an identity than quality. I'll be banging it through the weekend.

i am rarely in this forum

really disapointed. is this an RnB album?

but im not gonna go that far just yet

waaaay more R&B on "Quality"

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Dignon: "Now, we should also get on a fitness regime- sit-ups, hitting the bags..."
Anthony: "You know, I was running 10 miles a day when I was out in the desert."
Dignon: Were you really? That's exactly what I'm talking about. That's good cardiovascular."

Dignon: "What? She said you were a failure? What has she ever accomplished with her life that's so great?"

Anthony: "One morning, over at Elizabeth's beach house, she asked me if I'd rather go water skiing or lay out. And I realized that not only did I not want that question, but I never wanted to answer another water-sports question, or see any of these people for the rest of my life."

Dignon: "How does an asshole like Bob get such a great kitchen?"

Anthony: "These towels are still warm. I guess that's from the dryer."

Dignon: "My name's Jerry, and this is my associate Cornelius."

Dignon: "Bob's gone! He stole his car."

Mexican: "You in the army eh?"
Dignon: "No, I just have short hair."

Anthony: "Dear Grace, I enjoyed your letter. I agree Camp Douglas isn't all it's cracked up to be. It never was."

Dignon: "It's called Hinckley Cold Storage. Here are a few of they key ingredients: dynamite, pole vaulting, laughing gas, choppers- can you see how incredible this is going to be? Hang-gliding! Come on!"

Future Man: "Keep up the mowing, Kemosabe."
Dignon: "It was landscaping, not just mowing."

Mr. Henry: "I hope this doesn't offend you Bob, but, your brother's a cocksucker."

Dignon: "Cons- well if you go in there tomorrow, then it's just another score by Abe Henry."
Mr. Henry: "That's true."

Dignon: "Who tripped the alarm man!
Anthony: "It's the fire alarm!"
Dignon: "Who tripped the fire alarm?"
Anthony: "It's because of all this fuckin smoke!"

"I try"
"black girl pain"
"never been in love"
"beautiful struggle"

These are all decent songs. Not kweli's best or most memorable, but at least fairly listenable.

and I think he's hating a bit much on "Never Been in Love" but otherwise I think he's mostly on point.

I still have to *really* listen to it.

I like Kweli, and haven't been disappointed with anything from him at all...

I'm givin him 5 out of 5 seeds!

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chale

but that other single he has out is hot.

is the sample from that evlis song? little more action, little less talking

that actually makes me sick

chill, hes a shock poster

Is it just me or is the mixing on this album terrible. Kweli is drowned out by the beats.

I've been a Kweli fan since his guest appearances on MOOD "DOOM" but he sounds the same, track to track. Shit, he is still on the conscious tip.

This album isn't necessarily bad but it sure isn't representative of Kweli's potential.

Kweli can kill the mic; hand the boy some good beats already!

...I apologize for the OKAYPLAYA HATIN'...

it starts off with bad mixin' on "going hard"

that shit get real low when his vocals come in...

black girl pain, where's the 3rd verse??? i like it better with the little girls singing the hook.
around my way is tight, but i like the original sample better.
never been in love is tight.
ghetto show is tight, but whats that speech at the end? cant even hear whats being said.
the beautiful struggle is tight.
where is my history??? that shoulda been on there and supreme too (w/ mos def)..

cause yall gotta listen to that shit again, it was CLASSIC. I love me some Electric Circus. Yall need to expand your musical taste if your gonna be hating on a record like that.

thats like hating the white album, and saying your a beatles fan

that shit is the greatest album i have ever purchased and i have a shit load of cds

The only tracks I like on the CD are:

"I Try"
"Around My Way"
"Ghetto Show"
"Never Been In Love"
"Beautiful Struggle"

The rest are either weak or just terrible. His beats sound so "jiggy" this album, it makes me sick. He could have gotten Madlib or Premeir to do his beats, hell have kanye do all of them. Instead I get the fucking Neptunes...WTF?

Oh, and it gets better. Why are the best tracks I've heard of the CD not present. Supreme, which had Mos Def on it (my favorite MC and one of two I put above Kweli), is missing. So is Lonely People, and many others. There are only 13 tracks on the CD, I know they had the space. This CD is a huge let down, I'll give him credit for "I Try" and "Ghetto Show" (which has Common, the other MC I put over kweli), they are hot tracks. And even though I didn't list Black Girl Pain, its tight. I'm just sick of songs about black women..period. The rest of the tracks I didn't list are a waste of my time. I don't get, I've been waiting for this CD for ever. Well there is always Oct. 12th, New Danger...go cop it.

is that this is a dope record. I'm glad that he didn't do a traditional "conscious," "J-Dilla," sounding record. It's always dope when artist stretch their boundaries. He did a good job on this shit right here. His lyrics stayed on point. I'm turning that shit up loud in the morning to get started. I was wondering if album with energy still existed.

Good shit Kweli

GO BLACK MAN GO!!!!!!!

I'm really hoping it will grow on me, but so far this album isn't doing it for me. Lyrically it seems decent, and it's not that the production is bad(though a lot of these beats I'm just flat out not feeling)...but as a whole, BS seems like less than the sum of its parts. There's just not much here that really excites me. I love Train of Thought and Quality though, so I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

can anyone explain the cd art? i know the words are written like they are on the front cover and 1/2 of "the beautiful struggle" is cut off. thats all cool and who cares about the art anyway, but WTF are the scribbles? at the top it looks like one arm hanging out the sleeve of a t-shirt, but the rest looks like someone fucked up with a pen. can anyone explain the scribble??????

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Sa-Ra - TBA
Common - Be
Struggle
Bugz In The Attic - Remixes Collection

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MAW - In The Real World
50 Cent - Move
Jadakiss - Why Remix
Goapele - Closer (spinna inst.)


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only reason u made this post, huh? lol. I aint mad at cha, do ur thing

yeah you got me. I only have two fuckin plaqs after all this got damn time @ OKP

its ok...at least ppl like ur posts. i get 2 responses and then it drops down to the bottom like coins in the wishing well (and the winner for corniest simile is...lol)

like you really care what any of us think

lyrics are cool.

the beats - i don't need to list, because many have already, but about 40% of them win. the rest are just wet. SERIOUSLY.
-GOOD album overall tho, when looked at by present days' standards.
-NO point in comparing this to his past stuff, it's just that - his PAST
-Speaking in terms of ALBUM QUALITY NOWADAYS - very similar concept/format to what is out today from ALL artists in terms of CONTENT - if you get an album w/30% of its songs on point today, consider it a BARGAIN.
-most of us DO NOT know the reason for the many "good" songs left off, EXCEPT, maybe TOO MANY folk ALREADY have BOOTLEGGED the songs (not me tho)

bottom line? i'm ok with this. as w/anything, things grow on you, if you listen often enough. fromm 1st listene tho, if i had to do this again, this would have been a purchase i made STRICTLY out of respect for whom he is - which is NOT a reason to buy music.

MOST of these ain't gon even sound ldope onstage(if that was the reason for them put on the album).

Kwe, COME ON, dude.

and it is horrible....and I was a believer.

*waits for De La*

or are there too many haters up in here lol.

Word on the street is...

Supreme Supreme ft. Mos is a bonus track in the UK....

anyway the ablum is dope 4/5, too much slow tracks... And i really hate that Just Blaze beat...

i wonder if he rereleases it like nas did with stillmatic addin that song

broken glass
we know
around my way
we got the beat
black girl pain
beautiful struggle -- i really like all of these

all of the others are still alright
back up offa me and work it out are right up there too
so overall id say i like the album
of course its not as good as quality, but you cant compare to that
i mean its hard to continually match your best

yeah i like all of those but add Never Been in Love.


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talib kweli-the beautiful struggle
john legend-get lifted
common-be
mos def- new danger
joss stone-mind body soul

the video made i try a better song

Was a better CD, at least it had a flow to it.

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