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11367, RE: conscious.... "WE" labled him as such not himself
Posted by PolarbearToenails, Wed Apr-10-02 02:48 PM
>>I'm with you here, but I
>>would hope that someone who
>>was trying to be "conscious"
>>would be able to understand
>>homosexuality, rather than hate or
>>fear it.
>Com never said he hated or
>feared

I don't think he does; I talked to him one time about it, and he was pretty straight (no pun intended) with me. Basically he said it was really looked down upon when and where he grew up, but he was trying to open his mind to it, and that it was hard. Which I thought was a really admirable answer. Because not everyone is born into a situation where there's no prejudice, and it takes courage to confront prejudice in yourself.

>
>
>>I agree that Eminem's use of
>>derogatory language towards gays is
>>much much worse than Com's.
>> I don't think that's
>>at issue.
>
>My point in bringing up eminem
>was not showing who's worse
>than whom. I used eminem
>to show that com's use
>of the word fag is
>ambiguous and never makes any
>direct reference to homosexuality;
>considering that the word faggot was
>used for other meanings and
>conotations long before it came
>to mean homosexual.

It's just that this argument could be made about the word "nigger" as well. It's a falacious argument... clearly, the reason the word is a put-down is because of it's association with homosexuality.

>i guess the whole KKK example
>was a bit confusing.
>The point is that no one
>kidnaps you, straps you in
>a chair and makes you
>listen to common.
>just like i don't get invited
>to KKK rallys; so if
>i exercise my own free
>will and go to one,
>i can exercise that same
>free and leave if i
>don't like what their saying.


I understand that. But what dude is saying (and what I'm saying) is that because he likes so many other things about what Com is saying, he wants to address this thing that he doesn't like.

I don't spend a lot of my time worrying about what David Duke thinks... but if a friend of mine said something racially offensive, I would call him on it, not just abandon that friend.

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