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11365, RE: conscious.... "WE" labled him as such not himself
Posted by PolarbearToenails, Tue Apr-09-02 04:27 PM
>A) there's no grand dictionary that
>says being conscious
>means accepting homosexuality. consciousness means different
>things to different people.

I'm with you here, but I would hope that someone who was trying to be "conscious" would be able to understand homosexuality, rather than hate or fear it.

>B) In the context of battle
>rhymes (like Doin it) the
>word fag doesn't always mean
>homosexuals. Similar to the word
>sissy, it implies a loss
>of manhood or weakness, not
>nessecarily gayness. for example, com's
>use of the word is
>ambiguous compared to eminems use
>of the word. Em, almost
>always connects the word fag
>to a sexual or directly
>to homosexuals, com is a
>bit more vague.

I agree that Eminem's use of derogatory language towards gays is much much worse than Com's. I don't think that's at issue.

But that leads to another point:
How do you think using "fag" or "faggot" as the ultimate derogatory affects homosexuals?
How, specifically, do you think it affects closeted homosexuals?

You have to be responsible both for the intent and the effects of your actions. If I throw a football in a china store, some shit's going to get broken -- it doesn't matter that I was just trying to get it to my buddy.

>C) if you really don't like
>it,
>DON'T LISTEN
>its like going to a KKK
>rally and then complaining about
>rascist
>comments. Ultimately homosexuality is a behavior,
>some people like it some
>don't.

Wrong.

Common is not monolithic -- that's the point of the post.

I love Common's music, and I'm very much bothered by his homophobic lyrics. They're not mutually exclusive.

I don't love the KKK's music.

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