All you cats are starting to sound like the Wu when they start goin on some philosophical shit that no one be understandin. We the audience aint hearin it. No matter how far you try to take it with your prolific abstracts, you still won't earn back any of our appreciation for this album that you're so desperately tryin to attain. I get more of a "groove" hearin joints like Buck 50 then Long as its Funky or whatever shit that thing is. Rza is one example of a genuine hip hop producer. You's aint. Go ahead. Post some New York Times type editorial on how musically righteous you are. Ya'll aint hip hop.