sorry allies, maybe next time.

and haters thanks for clicking, now bye.

now on to the business.

the new year has ushered in some new queers. identify yourself, dammit. this is your database.

a/s/l would be helpful, LOL. jk

yes, but feel free to check-in, post your favorite websites (inbox the male porn links to SoWhat and the female porn to luvlee2003, however), get your e-hollers on, honor your fav okqueer (even those that have seemingly LOGGED OFF).

my non-straight brethren and sistren (even the ones i know that'll lurk in this post) this posts for you. you (mostly likely) wont' be judged.

me first? 25/m/nyc. LOL

LOL.

you're in chicago?

i'm sure someone needs a hag there.

I feel out with the queens in chicago. said some shyt i shouln't have said @ a drag ball. my pass has been revoked=( you know how when a white person gets to comfy with black folx. yeah I went there. now i have to watch Paris is burning to get my hag fix.

The mind is everything; what you think, you become. -Buddha

Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

Peace, Luv, Power

banji

LMAO on the real though. I want to be Fab like Mz. Pepper Labeija(RIP). Can I demand they knock out a wall, or two, so my dress will fit? Then can I "walk" and have mutha fuckers chanting my name as I slip outta my ballon gold lam'e straps! A girl can dream.

The mind is everything; what you think, you become. -Buddha

Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

Peace, Luv, Power

i just hang and apply witty retorts when i'm looked upon other than that...i dont try to outshine the starz..ahahah

word...

bmore queens

(non-thread related)

Yo, that BT avi is dope...

>
>Yo, that BT avi is dope...

bisexual peoples are underrepresented.
In fact, aside from transgendered (which Eclipsed so rightly pointed out to me), we are often the least represented in queer circles.

With that said,... I think I am going to start attending bisexual meetings b/c I be having questions.

LOL.

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Myths humanize the recurrent themes of evolu

lol.

bisexuals = conveniently straight most times.

jk

Exhibit A.

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Myths humanize the recurrent themes of evolution.

that's true though right? bi people are half the time in deep stealth mode, so...

wit da rest of us. no hate tho, maybe they shouldnt

of the larger queer community, it's just generally I've encounted just as much bias from them as the straight folks.

All those "I kiss my female friends at bars to get male attention, but would never really date a woman" chicks deciding to call themselves bisexual really made life a living hell for those women who legitimately are bi.

>All those "I kiss my female friends at bars to get male
>attention, but would never really date a woman" chicks
>deciding to call themselves bisexual really made life a living
>hell for those women who legitimately are bi.

this is a case of..."i'm so self-conscious"

it's fine, just admit it.

or maybe just using that as excuse to act out their inner desires.

in the lbgtq movement...
despite the upsurge of the publicity lesbians
usedta be bis weren't even considered to be homosexuals.
just a special kind of freak.

just thought i'd mention that.




>of the larger queer community, it's just generally I've
>encounted just as much bias from them as the straight folks.
>
>All those "I kiss my female friends at bars to get male
>attention, but would never really date a woman" chicks
>deciding to call themselves bisexual really made life a living
>hell for those women who legitimately are bi.

>in the lbgtq movement...
>despite the upsurge of the publicity lesbians
>usedta be bis weren't even considered to be homosexuals.
>just a special kind of freak.

I remember when I first started going to lbgtq meetings (16 at the time) bi people were given a cold shoulder. I just told everyone I was a "friend of the gay community" to avoid the arguments and disagreements. I was accepted as a fruit fly and pretty much had to get my dating done on the dl, all of the ladies were full lesbians though. It was too funny because at that time damn near EVERY straight person I knew swore I was butch.

oh yeh, um......25(aquarius mothafucka)/M/FL

that's not surprising is it?

*waits patiently for mandate*

hook niggas up!

DON'T LISTEN TO HUEY. HE HATIN'

They take place at the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual Transgender Community Center.

Bisexual Women
Social and discussion group for women who identify as Bisexual. Bi-friendly lesbians and trans-women are welcome. 2nd/4th Wed. 6:30-8PM.
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Facts and news are reports from the current TV drama.
They have no relevance to your 2-billion-year-old divinity.
Myth is the report from the cellular memory bank.
Myths humanize the recurrent themes of evolution.

i feel cornered by Huey and SoWhat...I don't know what to do. Can I hang out with you?

and we'll leave you alone.

well at least i will. i can't speak for sowhat.

LOL

so choose carefully.

n/m

mmmhmm nigga.

i was just gon' ignore the subject, but SoWhat gave me the perfect opportunity to reference his weiner

back to the stated objective.

quick fast homie.

i got inbox. LOL

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Facts and news are reports from the current TV drama.
They have no relevance to your 2-billion-year-old divinity.
Myth is the report from the cellular memory bank.
Myths humanize the recurrent themes of evolution.

there's that, and also i'm not a lesbian or transgender....but whatever.

*falls out

LOL

omg, i have the perfect gift you.

a carmelo anthony throwback!

it's b-more, denver nuggets, and syracuse (showing that i gave it to you) ALL AT THE SAME TIME!

yay! when's ya bday?

-
www.myspace.com/laulau

There's only four corners in this damned room and I don't see not one... oh wait nevermind *teehee*

Anywho

A/ methuselah or there abouts but still sexy in my geriatric days :)

S/ it's good, I could use a sandwich though and some money on this
damned gas bill.

L/ they call it O-high-o but I ain't been high in years!

I don't have a favorite web site, I don't send out pics but one day i'll get to a RE and be plastered all over this board (thus hindering my ability to work undercover - lol)

I enjoy Chinese noodles, chihuahuas and black capped chickadees :) if you know that line then you are old school like me.

I have a wicked sense of humor and a checkbook that's slowly being depleted- if someone else offers to pay for your wedding LET THEM!

this is some old BS - 5 hours of open bar you (well not YOU) MFs better appreciate my broke ass! *sorry just a little frustration leaking out, not at anyone here though*

I know I better get some damned great gifts!
:) that's my inner gay man speaking! ^^^^^^^
DeeDee

you are my favorite!

thanks I'm always up in one of your posts- i'mnot trying to stalk you though at least not yet ;)

Dee

YES MAM!

I have been drinking the hell out of some Lindeman's Framboise lately, it's another fine Belgian- it's more girly/fruity but one or two can be just right for a man too... it's Raspberry flavored

I'm here to learn/teach :)

Beer class is open
step up to bar and don't forget to tip!
Dee

where's the love?
I'm trapped in the closet...
shhhhhhhhhhh

ya'll.aint.seen.him.have.u??




:P


bblock.me.playing.

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I would rather maim than kill
Hurt than maim
Intimidate than hurt
Avoid than intimidate.

~~~~~
congratulations
You now know what its like to be a man.

Eat some pussy. It'll make u feel better. - Esco

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DIRTY BITCHES! (c) sug@stix

this nigga.

or maybe i am....Huey was this intended for hookup purposes? if so, i can add more info

make it what you want.

it's a vessel. lol

what does 8c mean????

you can find me on 6th ave with the homo thugs

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Myths humanize the recurrent themes of evolution.

-
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-
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cool.

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i wanna go too

:-)

>sorry allies, maybe next time.
>
i dont know what else im supposed to add.

oh... recently joined a lesbian women of colour group, and so im 'claiming my side of the fence.'



yeah.... nomofencesitting-o




>and haters thanks for clicking, now bye.
>
>now on to the business.
>
>the new year has ushered in some new queers. identify
>yourself, dammit. this is your database.
>
>a/s/l would be helpful, LOL. jk
>
>yes, but feel free to check-in, post your favorite websites
>(inbox the male porn links to SoWhat and the female porn to
>luvlee2003, however), get your e-hollers on, honor your fav
>okqueer (even those that have seemingly LOGGED OFF).
>
>my non-straight brethren and sistren (even the ones i know
>that'll lurk in this post) this posts for you. you (mostly
>likely) wont' be judged.
>
>me first? 25/m/nyc. LOL

i like their politics.

at least someone was telling me about something similar

this group of women.... well. i went for their first 'meeting' sunday.

turns out this very white, mainly boy's, gay club (like usually it'll have 1/2 girls and they are straight) has a lounge area at the back where the bartender is this black dyke called muscles......
what a pleasant surprise! cause now i have a new place to hang out at. anyway.... we were talking about coming out in the black community. has this topic not been beaten to death yet??? its like this dead horse will not die...but they seemed pretty cool...so ima keep going.

..

b/c he posted that face pic as his avy earlier this week. he's since broke my heart by changing it to something else. i'm so distressed i haven't checked to see about the new avatar. luckily that other pic was copied and pasted to my mental hard drive. i wish i'd copied and pasted it to my actual hard drive but i'm not creepy like that.

he's on myspace.

it can be your on personal playground.

i can only be over there for about 5 minutes before i get disgusted w/myself.

lol.

direct access.

i haven't checked recently but i've looked before when he didn't have any pics posted. i was disappointed and only checked once or twice more after that. it was months ago. i should try again when i get home, it's blocked here.

so i can check.

just let it burn inside. that's what i do.

i mean i think he does.

hes the shyt and him and the roots are the reason i first came to okp! yay roots fan 4eva!

*almost.

you handle that.
if that 8c doesn't catch his attention.... i dontknowhatwill.

what's the female equiv of an 8c. i need digits to get someone's attentione, yo...


>b/c he posted that face pic as his avy earlier this week.
>he's since broke my heart by changing it to something else.
>i'm so distressed i haven't checked to see about the new
>avatar. luckily that other pic was copied and pasted to my
>mental hard drive. i wish i'd copied and pasted it to my
>actual hard drive but i'm not creepy like that.

woman's hand if i get the chance, among other things.

y'all aint kno! *bounces round room throwing 'bows*

so we're good to go.

that top and bttm shyt is soooooooooooo played

well i think yall logged off. lol

pointfivefag
25percenter
damali
ahmsofunky
furiousfreddy

_______________________________________
they carlito, we benny blanco

it's nice umbrella term.

will get you a fervor of inboxes

i meant to add him too. lol. i posted before i proofread.

~K

.:Southern Belle::Magnolia Smell:.

kristy does not sleep. she waits.

He gave each one of them a different personality and then they all had that fight in a post one time.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

.

was I supposed to include other info?








www.myspace.com/jersey_yo

I am a gemini and I like long walks on the beach. Oh yeah, and I like to cook. did I miss anything?

:P

I like to get my :)~ on, or whatever it is yall call it around there parts lol

ure supposed to include how many inches, and let us kno if ure cut or not

.

I dont really party in NJ like that... I usually go out in NYC, but I did peep u at Jazz n Java tho. I was sittin on the side with those chicks that were hemmin and hawin at your first piece lol

i aint hear. it's too cold to go to nyc. i hang out at the colosseum on thurs nites from time to time.

.

.

I stepped into this post to apply hate.

The guy's NO GOOD.

now she was cool.

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They have no relevance to your 2-billion-year-old divinity.
Myth is the report from the cellular memory bank.
Myths humanize the recurrent themes of evolu

.

*approaches mic*
*tap tap tap*
is this thing on?
umm... i enjoy porn. breeder porn, mostly.

i mean i watch it too and bust off hardily but cant nuffin beat a group of ninjas doing all sorts of freakiness in white socks...i mean nuffin!

we like watching people cum.

most porn doesn't focus on true female orgasms (hell not even the chick chick stuff, they just kind of "stop"...)

you can't hide from a man shooting his wad across a room though. and there's something appealing about the finality of it all.

cummings, hence why i think its the best, but for lesbians your theory makes perfect sense

its funny cause the only okps i wanna really meet are the homos (both males and females)

okPEACE

why ya'll keep posting this stuff during the day?

knowing i got a good job now!

shit. and why am i responding on a friday night? (answer: my gf may or may not have a date tonight so I'm home alone)

Holla at cha girl!

What up nigga?

hetero privilege. I'll do what I want to you hauxmauxs. What you gon' do?

so it's okay for you to be here.

*affirms you*

Frill?

Shit, with the way shit is going lately.....

.

Getting my Swigga on.

28/m/mpls.

the ppl wanna know.

Whachu wanna know?

fulfill that.

it's okay to stop twirling now.

Still a bit dizzy.

I must say I enjoy SoWhat's online persona. Plus, I'm hoping to hit up the Oprah hook-up someday. (Preferably the day she's giving away Caribbean islands.)

Your curmudgeounly-ness (damn) has also entertained me, frequently.

I don't have any e-lust for the gays yet, cause we don't really seem to be posting up pics too frequently. What's up with that? Maybe I miss all the good posts.

lol.

snarky? yes.

would still smell as snarky, lol.

heeeeeeeeey
21/f/NYC
If you wanna know just ask.

oh my.

if ur fan a swigga ur cool wit me!

LOL

.

I thoroughly enjoy West Indians, parties, and large bank accounts.
Holla




>sorry allies, maybe next time.
>
>and haters thanks for clicking, now bye.
>
>now on to the business.
>
>the new year has ushered in some new queers. identify
>yourself, dammit. this is your database.
>
>a/s/l would be helpful, LOL. jk
>
>yes, but feel free to check-in, post your favorite websites
>(inbox the male porn links to SoWhat and the female porn to
>luvlee2003, however), get your e-hollers on, honor your fav
>okqueer (even those that have seemingly LOGGED OFF).
>
>my non-straight brethren and sistren (even the ones i know
>that'll lurk in this post) this posts for you. you (mostly
>likely) wont' be judged.
>
>me first? 25/m/nyc. LOL

>I thoroughly enjoy West Indians, parties, and large bank
>accounts.
>Holla

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http://www.lpsg.org/index.php

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http://gofugyourself.typepad.com/

where we talk about crazy shit...
re:GEN Online...
http://www.theregen.net

>the new year has ushered in some new queers. identify
>yourself, dammit. this is your database.

I'm bi. Not bicurious. Not kiss my friends in the club bi. Not down for a threesome bi w/my bf bi. I'm bi/poly like I could be with either or, even better both, in a long term relationship.

>a/s/l would be helpful, LOL. jk

27/F/Bangkok- soon to be New Orleans (hometown)

>I'm bi. Not bicurious. Not kiss my friends in the club bi.
>Not down for a threesome bi w/my bf bi. I'm bi/poly like I
>could be with either or, even better both, in a long term
>relationship.

i love it!

Then I thought, a little clarification doesn't hurt. Too many men approach me like- hmmmm, the perfect gf, we can have threesomes all the time. gtfoohwtbs (I actually said that out loud really slowly in a low voice.)

I don't want to be lumped in with the fake bi women- it's so not my style. I've dated a few of those and don't like their game at all, especially when I'm not the one doing the pursuing. Anyways.

Just my TMI way of saying, I love people and not genders- HOWEVER I fully appreciate and go down on both.

>HOWEVER I fully appreciate and go down on both.
>

I love people and not genders-
>HOWEVER I fully appreciate and go down on both.

>I'm bi. Not bicurious. Not kiss my friends in the club bi.
>Not down for a threesome bi w/my bf bi. I'm bi/poly like I
>could be with either or, even better both, in a long term
>relationship.

.

fellas, do y'all get along with other (black) gay men?

sistren, do y'all get along with other (black) lesbians?


for me, initially at least, i (usually) don't relate well with other homo brothas. now all of my closest friends are gay black and latino men, but even with some of them it took a while to get that point of tru friendhsip.

in general, especially back home in dc/bmore, but its here in STL too, i find that homo black men are very standoffish and cliquish or either all in ur face being slutty cause they like u (BOTH I FIND ANNOYING). and sometimes they can be both, like trying to be all standoffish and catty but then they tell their homeboy to tell u that they like u

even here, on okp, i have got "into it" with some homo brothas who were acting queenie (percraps i was too)IMO, its all good tho no hard feelings

i mean as far as getting hit on i am real good about it cause i was raised to be humble,

but with the "i dont kno *her* im not gonna speak" shyt, ive kinda out grown it
in the past, cause me and all my friends *REALLY* do look good, i respond in kind, wit indifference, but now as im getting older and more "conscious" i wanna stop treating my brothas like that, queen/dl/chill-->whatever u are, if your in the life u gonna be dealing wit some of the same shyt, and we are, a lot of times, all we got

this was long as hell, but i hope it sparks some discussion (my next question will be about how homo men and women relate wit each otha)

i think i get along w/them about as well as i get along w/anyone. LOL

well, okay i get along w/them slightly better than i get along w/anyone. i feel unattractive around big groups of Black gay men...i feel like i fit in socially but that's where it stops. most of the Black men i've been with i've met outside of Black gay settings but that could be b/c i hang out in so may non-Black gay settings. most likely i feel unwanted/unattractive in Black gay social settings for personal reasons. i gotta work on that shit.

u could answer that, but u seem like u would be regarded as attractive no matta what, from what ive seen,

my relations with white gay men are pretty much the same as with most white ppl, just cordial small talk and u keep it moving, sometimes will share info about who we're dating but it doesnt go far beyond that.

ive had fun the few times i went to non black homo clubs, but my friends that went with me didnt really

i spoke specifically about Black gays b/c of your question but when i think about it i've felt unattractive around gay men in general as of late. just last night i was in a mostly white gay bar feeling unwanted. when i replied earlier i was thinking specifically of a party i attended last month that 100% Black gay men where i felt like a troll and also of the last time i went to The Generator (Black gay club) and got 0 attention except from 1 guy...a white Latino. everybody else ignored me. those are just 2 examples.

but anyway yeah, i feel that way all the time and i know it's my thing.

>u could answer that, but u seem like u would be regarded as
>attractive no matta what, from what ive seen,

*blushing*

i spoke specifically about Black gays b/c of your question but when i think about it i've felt unattractive around gay men in general as of late. just last night i was in a mostly white gay bar feeling unwanted. when i replied earlier i was thinking specifically of a party i attended last month that 100% Black gay men where i felt like a troll and also of the last time i went to The Generator (Black gay club) and got 0 attention except from 1 guy...a white Latino. everybody else ignored me. those are just 2 examples.

but anyway yeah, i feel that way all the time and i know it's my thing.

>u could answer that, but u seem like u would be regarded as
>attractive no matta what, from what ive seen,

*blushing*

yeh, ill tell on myself. i dont kno about my boi, but i ddnt speak to u becuz u were bizarre, not cuz u homo. u were like a thing that needed to be observed.


so i did.

no but that experience is one like all the others, thats tru, but i didnt have u and that time in mind when i wrote this.

>fellas, do y'all get along with other (black) gay men?

Not yet.

but i guess thats all that was needed to be said...

lol

i only have 1 gay friend... and i didnt even like him at first. but he was persistent. i think its a territorial thing with me, i dont like to many gay ppl in my area. smh.

u'd think my adverseness to gay ppl would affect my sex life, but them straight guys be on me son. lol

>fellas, do y'all get along with other (black) gay men?
>

I say it's a love-hate relationship because I despise the annoying characteristics that so many of them take on- catty, cliquish, hyper-sexual, dramatic. Sometimes I feel like I can't be nice to people even if I wanted to, cause niggas are so arbitrarily venomous and judgemental.
I feel self-conscious around big groups of black homos, because I know they are among some of the vainest people on earth(although I am not innocent myself lol).
And why does it seem that everybody in a city knows (and sometimes fucks) each other? I hate it; I don't like my social groups overlapping.
And let's just skip the subject of queens- I really don't deal with them on any extended level.

BUT despite the faults of some in the community, I love the black homo best friends that I've acquired. They're such total packages- smart, funny, attractive, and educated. I have so much fun with them, and I know this sounds corny lol, but sometimes I feel so optimistic and complete when we're together. The fact is that to dislike Black homos in general would be to dislike some of the best people in the world.

thanx for sharing

and yes co-muddafuccing-sign on erryone knowing (and probably having fucked ) each otha, its really much worst when its tru (and it is) in a big city/urea like dc/bmore...ugk!

>fellas, do y'all get along with other (black) gay men?
>
>sistren, do y'all get along with other (black) lesbians?


yup. i get along with women in general.

for some reason though studs(butches) don't really get me at first and usually ignore me, but once they get to know me, they love me to death. i've yet to f*ck one though...

i hate getting put into boxes though, which chicks who are really into roles tend to do, but with time I usually make my case and they let me be me.

yes!!!! i get along with them.

i have especial love for them dykes...
ooohhhweee!!
my first love was the boxers wearing type of dyke that had never ever been with a man.
she's still my heart.
she introduced me to what loving a woman was really about.
(i think i just got wet)
my longest running crush (im still waiting for her to break up with her girl) is a dyke. *she says i follow her around like a lost puppy.
so yes!! i got mad love for dykes.

unfortunately my girlfriends always end up being femmes, idontknoww'supwiththat.
cause i aint even dyked out like that.

but yeah... i only have one close friend that's straight (and she's my best bud, lol)
every other female i like to chill with is gay.
and im trying to make more lesbian friends.




>fellas, do y'all get along with other (black) gay men?
>
>sistren, do y'all get along with other (black) lesbians?
>
>
>for me, initially at least, i (usually) don't relate well with
>other homo brothas. now all of my closest friends are gay
>black and latino men, but even with some of them it took a
>while to get that point of tru friendhsip.
>
>in general, especially back home in dc/bmore, but its here in
>STL too, i find that homo black men are very standoffish and
>cliquish or either all in ur face being slutty cause they like
>u (BOTH I FIND ANNOYING). and sometimes they can be both, like
>trying to be all standoffish and catty but then they tell
>their homeboy to tell u that they like u
>
>even here, on okp, i have got "into it" with some homo brothas
>who were acting queenie (percraps i was too)IMO, its all good
>tho no hard feelings
>
>i mean as far as getting hit on i am real good about it cause
>i was raised to be humble,
>
>but with the "i dont kno *her* im not gonna speak" shyt, ive
>kinda out grown it
>in the past, cause me and all my friends *REALLY* do look
>good, i respond in kind, wit indifference, but now as im
>getting older and more "conscious" i wanna stop treating my
>brothas like that, queen/dl/chill-->whatever u are, if your in
>the life u gonna be dealing wit some of the same shyt, and we
>are, a lot of times, all we got
>
>this was long as hell, but i hope it sparks some discussion
>(my next question will be about how homo men and women relate
>wit each otha)

>

and we didnt take over this post, hushup

I have more gay black female friends now then I've ever had, but I chalk that up to setting and not desire.

I'm basically the oldest of my friends here in OH and married, I don't tend to go out in search of new friends, i've been blessed to just have people fall in to the fold(um no sex-o lol) oddly enough most of my close male friends are str8 white guys here in OH.

I get along with gay and str8 brothas but I feel like the str8 guys are a little dissapointed when they find out i'm gay- and I don't even see myself as the extra sexy type, I'm not hardcore butch at all but i'm not the femme-y type either.

depending on how i'm dressed I get cruised by gay black men (which amuses me) when I do go out to the club(s). My inner gay man comes out when dancing, i'm not that stand in the corner posting up type of girl - my inner gay man LOVES some house music!

i'd like to get to know more gay black folks, it's just such an interesting dynamic to me. Because when I was coming out (back in the Jurrasic period) people of color were few and far between.

:)
Dee

this post went diamond lol. and that is surprising since it is about gay people and okp is sooo straight........anyway.

.

n/m

but, he is a love hater. remember that.

.

i'll fill it out like this is www.adam4adam.com

27/M/sc
status: in a situation
style: sexy fat boy
top
just looking for friends...unles your name is corey and then i would be willing to drop my 2yr relationship for a one night stand where you just let me watch from a closet while you do your thing whith someone much sexier than i.

.

I do!

Oh yea, 26/m/atlanta.

>sorry allies, maybe next time.
>
>and haters thanks for clicking, now bye.
>
>now on to the business.
>
>the new year has ushered in some new queers. identify
>yourself, dammit. this is your database.
>
>a/s/l would be helpful, LOL. jk
>
>yes, but feel free to check-in, post your favorite websites
>(inbox the male porn links to SoWhat and the female porn to
>luvlee2003, however), get your e-hollers on, honor your fav
>okqueer (even those that have seemingly LOGGED OFF).
>
>my non-straight brethren and sistren (even the ones i know
>that'll lurk in this post) this posts for you. you (mostly
>likely) wont' be judged.
>
>me first? 25/m/nyc. LOL

i bet you do.

we might end up with the publicity lesbians cosmigrrl was talking about.
so im kinda conflicted.

lets just put it this way....

*I need more lesbians in my life...


(purely platonic......

.....of course)...

i wouldnt mind seeing some new dick around here






of course itd hav 2 b platonic...like u said

.

i bet you do.

(did i say that twice? lol)

No wonder wdsmith needs some new purely platonic (of course) d%^k


>i bet you do.
>
>(did i say that twice? lol)

i hate that subject line.

look @ all the dykes that have responded and you ignored.

hmph.

*that avy!

and i still got that mental picture of the time she mandated what her first bra looked like....






>i hate that subject line.
>
>look @ all the dykes that have responded and you ignored.
>
>hmph.

but you ain't hear that from me ©lady in the window

the type to cause femmes to fight over u, like the lesbian version of me :-) (jokes)

fave websites: blackademic.com, crunktastical.blogspot.com/, fourfour.typepad.com, blackgayblogger.com

blog: dustdaughter.livejournal.com (pics on blog are not of me)

Hi.
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>fave websites: blackademic.com, crunktastical.blogspot.com/,
>fourfour.typepad.com, blackgayblogger.com
>
>blog: dustdaughter.livejournal.com (pics on blog are not of
>me)
>
>Hi.
>______________________________
>

i'm sensing a very quirky sense of humor... i dig that
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<~ No quality is more attractive than poise...that deep sense of being at ease with yourself and the world.

damn ya'll some chatty mofos!


i still love ya'll though :)

and introverted.

nobody got time for all that. lol

ain't got time to be checking on posts all day!

ya'll just busy trying to hook up!

we need some more women up in here though...


>and introverted.
>
>nobody got time for all that. lol

*gets facial*

oh, what was that? you need more women in here?

um, go summon your database. lol

*purses lips*

.

21/f/NYC
us ladies are looking so lonely in this post
we should huddle together.

what y'all think about dykes that be wearing strap ons like -all the time.
actually... how do y'all feel about strap ons.

lil story..
other day i was at the local gay club...
cabaret starts and this hella fine dyke is performing.
now she was kinda young and all.....
but trust and believe i could already imagine the things
i would do to her if she let me..
but anyway... she's doing her show, she's in a man's suit,
lookin like something you want to eat first thing in the mawning...
takes off her coat, her shirt is unbuttoned ... tittays just fall out
like they were being called or something...
and there's like a collective sigh of desire among all the females
(girls was ackin real cunty)....

but.... her pants kinda drop.. right..
and she's got a strap on.....

personally...
not really my thing.
i.dont.want.that.when.im.with.my.woman.
i dont like toys, period.
(maybe im just repressed)..
but i wanta know what y'all think.

how many of y'all know the entire catalog of goodvibrations..
and how many of y'all are like me.
know how to make that p*&sy call out yo name without needing nothing else?

*points to forearm* right here that would jump off my body and pay me cash money to get a strap if it could. Like seriously my forearms are like the strongest parts of my body due to not having a strap (if you're lost folks just give it a second it'll come to you...)

so umm yeah anyways lol i've priced them and know exactly what kind i'd want if i were ever to go ahead and make that expenditure for that appendage(r)

good vibes sells this red and black marble looking one. not too big (for me) not too small (for her)

i just can't go there yet. like thats such an official official type of thing ya know?

i have to admit that i would try wearing it out and about one evening just to see what it feels like.

now i've never been with someone and NOt been able to make them cum, but i'd be lying if i said i wouldn't like to be able to do it hands or mouth free.

>what y'all think about dykes that be wearing strap ons like
>-all the time.
>actually... how do y'all feel about strap ons.
>
>lil story..
>other day i was at the local gay club...
>cabaret starts and this hella fine dyke is performing.
>now she was kinda young and all.....
>but trust and believe i could already imagine the things
>i would do to her if she let me..
>but anyway... she's doing her show, she's in a man's suit,
>lookin like something you want to eat first thing in the
>mawning...
>takes off her coat, her shirt is unbuttoned ... tittays just
>fall out
>like they were being called or something...
>and there's like a collective sigh of desire among all the
>females
>(girls was ackin real cunty)....
>
>but.... her pants kinda drop.. right..
>and she's got a strap on.....
>
>personally...
>not really my thing.
>i.dont.want.that.when.im.with.my.woman.
>i dont like toys, period.
>(maybe im just repressed)..
>but i wanta know what y'all think.
>
>how many of y'all know the entire catalog of goodvibrations..
>and how many of y'all are like me.
>know how to make that p*&sy call out yo name without needing
>nothing else?
>
>
>
>

>but i'd be lying if i said i wouldn't like to be
>able to do it hands or mouth free.


i cant imagine ever doing this hands, tongue, breasts, pussy, (andeveryotherbodypartieverused)- free.

there's too much pleasure in using *just my body to please.

like seriously my wrists and arms be HURTING

its strictly an issue of utility for me.

i mean there's a novelty aspect. but i wont be like worshipping the thing.

im just trying to give my body some rest

im not saying you dont know...

im just saying...





(oh hell!! this might be an undacova holla...)

i dont really have that problem, tho.
cause there's too many *other things to do, y'know.




>like seriously my wrists and arms be HURTING
>
>its strictly an issue of utility for me.
>
>i mean there's a novelty aspect. but i wont be like
>worshipping the thing.
>
>im just trying to give my body some rest

>im not saying you dont know...
>
>im just saying...
>
>
>
>
>
>(oh hell!! this might be an undacova holla...)
>
>i dont really have that problem, tho.
>cause there's too many *other things to do, y'know.

no comment.

but im serious though.


y'know.






infinite possibilities (c)amel


>>im not saying you dont know...
>>
>>im just saying...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>(oh hell!! this might be an undacova holla...)
>>
>>i dont really have that problem, tho.
>>cause there's too many *other things to do, y'know.
>
>no comment.

:x oops
Dee

i would like to contribute that my gf really wants to get one and i think its because she some how thinks itll ween me from my desire for men or something

meanwhile im not even really keen on the idea.

i mean why not?

for me its more of seeing a toy as some sort of invasion.
like if i cant please my woman with what i got, then what's the point, really.

i kinda want to know what reasons (pro and cons) folks got.

also cause i feel that *some dykes wear strap-ons for reasons other than what i know.
and i think for most, its a sexual experience very independent of the hetero model.

so....


i need some answers......
why aren't you keen on the idea?



>i would like to contribute that my gf really wants to get one
>and i think its because she some how thinks itll ween me from
>my desire for men or something
>
>meanwhile im not even really keen on the idea.

if i want a penis, ill get a man
and quite frankly i dont think id even mind it if she hadnt vocalized that she wants to do it in an attempt to turn me off from men
im bothered that she thinks i can be controlled or satisfied that easily

plus, i like her and she pleases me and i just dont need it
shes femme and i like her that way

>if i want a penis, ill get a man
>and quite frankly i dont think id even mind it if she hadnt
>vocalized that she wants to do it in an attempt to turn me off
>from men
>im bothered that she thinks i can be controlled or satisfied
>that easily
>
>plus, i like her and she pleases me and i just dont need it
>shes femme and i like her that way
>
>

-
www.myspace.com/laulau

about me leaving her for a dude when we first got together.

her last gf was like a stud who fell to family pressure and straight left her for a dude

it took time for her to finally get that i was in it because i wanted to be and not as some reaction to (or against) dudes

i'm like, if im with you i'm with you and if i feel like i cant be with you, ill let you know well in advance.

-
www.myspace.com/laulau

once our relationship stabilized (you know, getting past the games and getting to know you and possessiveness that comes with a new relationship) it went away.

just took time and really getting to know each other and know what kind of realtionship we wanted/needed to have.

my ex is getting married *this friday.
to a german dude, no less


shit! i dont even know what to think about this.

is it peer pressure
could this be love? (c) bobmarley
was it just a phase?

i don't know.
it would be hard for me too, though. if a chick left me for a guy (i kinda understand if we'd already broken up... but straight up from my bed and onto a man's dick? nah ah.)







>
about me leaving her for a dude when we first got together.
>
>her last gf was like a stud who fell to family pressure and
>straight left her for a dude
>
>it took time for her to finally get that i was in it because i
>wanted to be and not as some reaction to (or against) dudes
>
>i'm like, if im with you i'm with you and if i feel like i
>cant be with you, ill let you know well in advance.
>
>
>

Maybe i feel this way because I'm still attracted to men, but when I'm with a woman (God it's been too long), I appreciate all that makes her a woman and NOT a man: breasts, ass, thighs, pussy. I'm not checking a girl for the size of her strap-on lol.

*clears throat* well, not to interrupt the last call

BUT

26/female here/progression in MD beginnings from FL
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<~ No quality is more attractive than poise...that deep sense of being at ease with yourself and the world.

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<~ No quality is more attractive than poise...that deep sense of being at ease with yourself and the world.

oh...and another lady. yay!

>oh...and another lady. yay!

it's necessary for admittance into the database..

(luvluv, can i use this lie, please? i want some answers, dammit!)


>*clears throat* well, not to interrupt the last call
>
>BUT
>
>26/female here/progression in MD beginnings from FL
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
><~ No quality is more attractive than poise...that deep sense
>of being at ease with yourself and the world.

lol seriously

like seriously i think ya'll dont be taking me seriously with this thing.

i just wanted to offer a morsel or someshit to get her to answer the question... like acting like you need to pass some kinda test to gain admittance..
now you've ruined the whole thing, luvluv...


i still luvs you though.




>lol seriously
>
>like seriously i think ya'll dont be taking me seriously with
>this thing.
>
>

asking those ?s aren't my style
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<~ No quality is more attractive than poise...that deep sense of being at ease with yourself and the world.

* i kinda feel bad that you called me girlie though.



like... i dont know....

due to recent events i think it's time i suggest something.

i advocate critical solidarity. i'm all for engaging conversation where viewpoints and perspectives oppose. but for the sack of respect etc let's keep it above the belt and not get too emo in the process.

imo, a criticism from a queerade is typically on some "just LOL bitch" or something that should be thought about in a reasonable manner. everything isn't a personal attack. know your audience. thanks.

like im fr5eaking hunched over the computer laughing right now




>due to recent events i think it's time i suggest something.
>
>i advocate critical solidarity. i'm all for engaging
>conversation where viewpoints and perspectives oppose. but for
>the sack of respect etc let's keep it above the belt and not
>get too emo in the process.
>
>imo, a criticism from a queerade is typically on some "just
>LOL bitch" or something that should be thought about in a
>reasonable manner. everything isn't a personal attack. know
>your audience. thanks.
>

i dunno. maybe i'm getting old.

.

im trying to express on this message board, so shyt may come off as snark when its more like frustration or me being baffled.

im not trying to shoot down anyone for self discovery but i do have opinions about what i consider to be wearing a critical part of my identity as if it was new handbag

thats why i didnt get all into a back and forth with ababa/nk in her post but im glad that she imed me to discuss what i thought (but i see the snarkiness has already begun, see her reply to akon in this post above)

but anyway constuctive concriticism is not bad, but this is my opinion so anyone can take it or leave it, especially in regards to ones self identity

im not interested in beefing OR defending my sexuality or how i choose to express it

so with that said
just dont read my post

:)

i mean i love this fam.
and i stick up for us alla the time.

but i think blkmd's prob (and mine) is that
nk has been known to say some homophobic sounding shit
and this was no less than a few months ago.
so this is all kinda questionable and ish, y'know.

but hey, hueyS, ur are right,
im just gonna just LOL
it aint that crucial.


but i clearly feel what blkmd is saying.




>im trying to express on this message board, so shyt may come
>off as snark when its more like frustration or me being
>baffled.
>
>im not trying to shoot down anyone for self discovery but i do
>have opinions about what i consider to be wearing a critical
>part of my identity as if it was new handbag
>
>thats why i didnt get all into a back and forth with ababa/nk
>in her post but im glad that she imed me to discuss what i
>thought (but i see the snarkiness has already begun, see her
>reply to akon in this post above)
>
>but anyway constuctive concriticism is not bad, but this is my
>opinion so anyone can take it or leave it, especially in
>regards to ones self identity
>
>

oh please
you definately have me confused as fuck

really i find it rather disturbing that you think homosexuality is something so exclusive that i can't talk about it or understand it

im really bothered right now
but im not even interested in going there

do you think i havent experienced adversity so i cant be on your level?

whatever

who speaks about their personal experiences in the life (whether from your amsofunky to your akons to your sowhats to newbies like you) can and do contribute much to okp.

all perspectives are welcome perspectives in my book.

there are some nutjobs on these boards and i know personally it makes me feel good to know that there are folks here who are coming from where i'm coming from regarding this particular aspect of my idenity. cause sometimes it's rough out there in the real world.

please dont be bothered though. im sure no harm has been meant by anything posted in here.

>really i find it rather disturbing that you think
>homosexuality is something so exclusive that i can't talk
>about it or understand it
>
>im really bothered right now
>but im not even interested in going there
>
>do you think i havent experienced adversity so i cant be on
>your level?
>
>whatever
>

-
www.myspace.com/laulau

AIM me sometime, we should chat.


RoneJonePatt

different perspectives are great and ppl are gonna have different opinions about those perspectives and HOW they are expressed, but i feel like if u kno who u are u will be like whatever im mean and not get all out of pocket

as i said before,

in the right now, its not that crucial.
im enjoying this post too much to let shit get negative


so.. im gonna go back to thinking about the next intensely
personal question im gonna ask the womyn.

hueyS just asked us not to negative.

and i dont like e-bickering.
everyone can post whatever the hell they want





>oh please
>you definately have me confused as fuck

-
www.myspace.com/laulau

i lost.

negative, with all the greatness of this post, u kno erryone appreciates u for this post, and i mean that sincerely

i tried.
i mean i still dont see what i said wrong, y'know?
i mean i just stated what i felt.
and i even said, its not that crucial.
its all perspectives.

now i feel bad....

-
www.myspace.com/laulau

(c) akon

and thats the bttm (no pun intended lol) line, aint nobody trying to be on that bickering stuff in here.

>im trying to express on this message board, so shyt may come
>off as snark when its more like frustration or me being
>baffled.

^^ me too. i've been accused of being snarky in the same way.

please.

PLEASE!

you exude hate from every FIBER OF YOUR BEING!

when we finally start representing in the post ya'll want to shut it down!


you see what im talking about???


do you SEE what i be talking about?


!!!!!

.

and umm... i aint realize we was rollin this deep. we should hold more posts like these.

homOKAYplayers unite!

and yes i love this post its like a conference/meet and greet

i wanna be the delegate from hawaii, can I?

>and yes i love this post its like a conference/meet and
>greet
>
>i wanna be the delegate from hawaii, can I?

i didnt realize being gay was a club i had to be initiated in

smh

they dont update it enuff IMO but it still good, especially the first time u go

and also amazon.com, if u do a search u can find great books on there, i bought afrekete, an athology of black lesbian short stories after i did a search at amazon and its a very good book

"it's" in us.


you know "it" *points at okp*


now *we* too could ruin a wet dream (or a bed hunch for the ladies)


sad.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

now im starting to feel bad, just cause of the damper its put on this post.

and even worse for ruining a bed hunch (for myself).
i was just getting ready to get extra indepth with my questions and shit.

oh well. its bedtime i guess.

*shit... now i need a damn cig. i thought tonight would be my quitting night. but....




>ladies)
>
>
>sad.
>
>
>

.

its a damn shame, no?
but those natural mint natsherman's mayne. something about that sweet taste they leave in your mouth. you know im all about 'sweet tastes in the mouth.


*grumbles....
now you got me thinking about what i *really want to be tasting.

dont make me start making booty calls and shit.


my o my!

the booty calls that is,


sex>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cigarettes.

i support it.

www.kaiwright.com

23/m/tx (d-town, what it do?)


:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

avi: "gotta love terrell, tx"

the one and only: www.myspace.com/mayn1

think i'm lyin'?!: www.damaynwun.blogspot.com

damn! i log off last night and come back this mornin and so much is goin on. Huey's holding meetings, folks are trying to console and/or argue with lesbians....so much(lol, how gay)





i dnt kno where to begin

does it really exist and if it does, can it ever be found in places such as adam4adam or blkgaychat? i think that for the most part, straits think that all we do is hook up and sex each other but let's talk about real relationships that have real romantic love!

...we met up outta curiosity cuz the chatline was based outta state and we were suprised that we were both calling from the same place. anyways, in april itll b 3 yrs. i dnt like to use the "L" word, but some would call it luv.



("L" word does not equal Lesbian)

i shoulda posted this here..

this post will never die.

i loved reading this article. thought i'd share.

-----------------


Gay marriages are to become legal in South Africa by the end of this year, after a Constitutional Court ruling that the current marriage laws were discriminatory. The BBC News website's Justin Pearce spoke to one young couple who are delighted at the news.
Mpumi Mathabela and Asanda Mjobo are the kind of couple who finish each other's sentences even when they're disagreeing with each other.

"I'd like to be pregnant..." says Asanda.

"... and I'm like: 'Yippee'." Mpumi chimes in.

"But when we're older," Asanda says. "You can't have a baby in a flat."

"When we have a secure future," agrees Mpumi. "I wouldn't want a child to be asking for something when I couldn't buy it. So as soon as we've sorted that out - we'll have one."

Gay and lesbian couples are allowed to adopt in South Africa, but Asanda and Mpumi will instead be looking for a donor father.

Asanda gets a wistful look in her eye: "Such an experience, that cute little thing growing inside you."

Mpumi shudders: "I'm scared of having a child inside me. I'm glad she made that decision."

If God intended you to be lesbians, then who am I to judge?

Asanda's grandmother
They have been living together for almost two years and have always thought they would get married one day.

"Even if the court ruling had been different we would still have gone ahead with it," Mpumi says.

"Not necessarily in a year, but as soon as we're ready. Maybe in two years, maybe less."

Asanda works as an office administrator - Mpumi produces the website for Behind the Mask, a group that works for the rights of gays and lesbians in Africa.


Families

In contrast to many other lesbian and gay couples in South Africa, Asanda and Mpumi have enjoyed the support of their own families in their relationship.


Mpumi works on gay and lesbian rights issues throughout Africa
"My mother calls Asanda 'Mrs Mathabela'," says Mpumi - she in turn said she was treated like one of the family when she visited Asanda's parents' home in the Eastern Cape.

"My family - they love me," Asanda says. "My gran said when I told her: "If God intended you to be lesbians, then who am I to judge?" They know I'm living a clean life, not doing any drugs and working hard."

Mpumi had a similar experience: "My mum and dad are very open minded. Mum always said: 'Stand up for what you believe in'."

Discrimination

Despite laws that are favourable towards lesbians and gay men in South Africa, discrimination remains common in wider society, and black lesbians endure the worst of the abuse.

They always say we contribute to moral degeneration - they blame that on us, as if the whole beautiful thing of marriage and family values is going to disappear

Mpumi
Earlier in February, a young woman called Zoliswa Nkonyana was murdered by a group of 20 men in Khayelitsha, Cape Town, for being a lesbian.

Asanda and Mpumi recognise that they are luckier than most, and say they would not always advise another lesbian to be as open as they are about their sexuality.

"She must be sure she wants to come out," Asanda says. "It's not always safe to be an out lesbian."

"You need introspection," Mpumi says. "You need to face your fears."

Harassment

Mpumi recalls harassment when she was a student in Durban: "Guys at the Technikon always said we take their women - like all these women who they don't know belonged to them, or women are some kind of prize."

Asanda tells of the time when she, her former partner and some female friends were out at a cafe one night - a group of men kept calling to them, followed them out when they left, and beat up some of their friends.


The couple enjoy the support of their families
"They were jealous because we were with beautiful girls who didn't give them any attention. We don't do public places a lot - we prefer to chill at a friend's house or go to safer places and get a cab home."

In their neighbourhood, people either accept or ignore them.

"One time the painter who was painting the flats came in while I was watching TV," says Mpumi. "He asked if I had a boyfriend, and I said: 'No, a girlfriend'.

"He looked at me - there was that blank look for a second, and then it was: 'I didn't hear you say a word'."

Love

"This gay marriage is something they don't want to hear about," says Asanda. "As if all heterosexual marriages are working OK, and as if when they legalise gay marriage everyone will become gay."

"They always say we contribute to moral degeneration," Mpumi adds.

"They blame it on us - as if the whole beautiful thing of marriage and family values is going to disappear. But family values have already disappeared and we have nothing to do with it. I want to ask one of them what's so perfect about their hetero world the way it is now?"

"Fathers are raping children," Asanda says.

"Brothers rape sisters."

"And we just love one another, but it's a problem for them."


>does it really exist and if it does, can it ever be found in
>places such as adam4adam or blkgaychat? i think that for the
>most part, straits think that all we do is hook up and sex
>each other but let's talk about real relationships that have
>real romantic love!

what a silly question.

u just have to sift thru some bullshyt sometimes

u got good credit right?

oh wow, am i old enough to be your sugar daddy/sponsor?

LOL

29-30 is about my limit, so lets forget this old business

this is a new thing for me but i dig it (i'll be 30 in July).

just don't bring me your gas bill on our 1st date. wait until the 2nd.

i like to take care of myself...but gifts are always welcome

actually you have a choice...either Imo's or some place where i can get a good St. Paul sandwich.

and as a gift i'll let you order extra cheese at Imo's or some egg rolls at the Chinamens.

.....

well maybe we can find some of that Mumbo/Mambo sauce to put on your St. Paul. y'all eat that sauce in Maryland, right?

i'll bring you a bottle as your gift.

that would be impressive!

.

you guys!

*throws tomato*

1 of my best friends met his boyfriend of 3.5 yrs on Salon.com.

they had 1 date and moved in together like lesbians.

thoughts?

and how do you feel about the inevitable comparison with Paris is Burning?

He was on a airplane
Sittin next to this guy
Said he wasn’t too shy
And he seemed real nice
Until I found out he was gay
That’s so not mellow

Let’s get free. . .

Let’s get free
Let’s get free
Now make it mellow
Now make it mellow

Freestyle
Xone 1
Boy meets boy
Boy loses boy
Boy gets cute boy back

Girl meets girl
Girl loses girl
Girl gets cute girl back

One rule
No rules
One love
Freexone
Let’s get free. . .

Let’s get free
Let’s get free
Now make it mellow
Now make it mellow

Freestyle
Xone 2

Boy meets girl
Boy loses girl
Boy gets cute girl back

Girl meets boy
Girl loses boy
Girl gets cute girl back

Free to be who you really are
One rule
No rules
One love
Freexone
Let’s get free. . .

Let’s get free
Let’s get free
Let’s get let’s get let’s get free
Let’s get free
Now make it mellow
Now make it mellow

Freestyle
Xone 3

Love your sister
Love your brother
Love yourself

Remember
One rule
No rules
One love
Freexone
Freexone
Freexone

One rule
No rules
One love
Freexone
Freexone
Freexone
Freexone

us ogayplayer mens?


she is too me!

but i lubs that mothafucka

her posting style irks my last nerve.

she probably is quite interesting in person.
but her e-personality???

nah ah.
and i dont appreciate t

>but i lubs that mothafucka

seriously i think, i feel like the only ppl that lub some swigga are ghey men

shes janet, shes mary j., shes beyonce, she is that lady that sung "its raining man, hallejuh"

nm

.

its a safe haven

sup?

have u e-met any of the lovely oklesbians or bi women?

i know i'm ridic. late, am currently seeing a guy, but for what it's worth:

24/f/CA soon to be NY in June

i'll quickly try and answer the questions i remember from my initial skimming of the post:

queer friends? yes, both male and female...though it wasn't until i really started becoming comfortable with my sexuality that i really began to establish a strong basis for friendships with gay women


strap ons? uhhhh no. if i wanted dick, i'd sleep with a guy. what i love about women is the fact that they are women (and i'm all about celebrating our womanhood together)


queer love? it's def. possible and just as beautiful hetero love

fav posters? always enjoy HueyS's posts (and crazy remarks) though Goldmind is a fav of mine as well. regarding the ladies, luv and akon will always be special b/c of their timely advice to me back when ;-)

i think i've covered everything.

.

nm

it is understood that ur bi, who said u werent

...(don't ask) :-) sorry about that i was in a rush, misinterpreted/assumed. lo siento. :-)

i edited.

my apologies.

nice to see you here!


>i know i'm ridic. late, am currently seeing a guy, but for
>what it's worth:
>
>24/f/CA soon to be NY in June
>
>i'll quickly try and answer the questions i remember from my
>initial skimming of the post:
>
>queer friends? yes, both male and female...though it wasn't
>until i really started becoming comfortable with my sexuality
>that i really began to establish a strong basis for
>friendships with gay women
>
>
>strap ons? uhhhh no. if i wanted dick, i'd sleep with a guy.
>what i love about women is the fact that they are women (and
>i'm all about celebrating our womanhood together)
>
>
>queer love? it's def. possible and just as beautiful hetero
>love
>
>fav posters? always enjoy HueyS's posts (and crazy remarks)
>though Goldmind is a fav of mine as well. regarding the
>ladies, luv and akon will always be special b/c of their
>timely advice to me back when ;-)
>
>i think i've covered everything.
>

23/f/boston

?

to.

.

>sorry allies, maybe next time.
>
>and haters thanks for clicking, now bye.
>
>now on to the business.
>
>the new year has ushered in some new queers. identify
>yourself, dammit. this is your database.
>
>a/s/l would be helpful, LOL. jk
>
>yes, but feel free to check-in, post your favorite websites
>(inbox the male porn links to SoWhat and the female porn to
>luvlee2003, however), get your e-hollers on, honor your fav
>okqueer (even those that have seemingly LOGGED OFF).
>
>my non-straight brethren and sistren (even the ones i know
>that'll lurk in this post) this posts for you. you (mostly
>likely) wont' be judged.
>
>me first? 25/m/nyc. LOL

especially if ur putting urself in a gay atmospheres and such all the damn time and letting urself be photographed

its a cunty move of the person who outs u (especially if its a str8 male who is doing it), but u put urself out there so just deal with it


this is in response to sumthin that happened earlier that i missed

kthxbye

FOR THIS POST TO STILL BE ON PAGE ONE!!!
*sips more haterade*

you still up the post.

i see you, ho.

.

would yall be down for a queer gathering?

maybe we can organize something on the side.

i need feedback.

>would yall be down for a queer gathering?
>
>maybe we can organize something on the side.
>
>i need feedback.

i'll brave the okdrama that is the RE and come for that!

i need suggestions, miss.

(i know im not helping here).

but seriously, any place with a good brew and good music
(i'd say a place where i can smoke too but we are talking about nyc)

>i need suggestions, miss.

that's all you need?

i think that would be really fun, just us ALL get together, like a totally different weekend from the re

i'll be there if there's no photography (see #340).

p.s.: when will this post die?

Is one word more acceptable to say than the other? Or are both of them equally painful and oppressive?

Check out this link for more elaboration: http://blackademic.blogspot.com/2006/02/queer-vs-niggernigger-vs-queer.html


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but queer has its negs too but to me its no where near as bad

its like the cool form of not the norm.


>but queer has its negs too but to me its no where near as
>bad

now those 2 words have about the same potency. queer is like kool aid while faggot is that hard nard.

i'm a aware it's used that way but i've never had a personal experience w/it in that connotation. i don't recall hearing the word at all until i went to college and heard academics use it on the reclamation tip. so it doesn't bother me. where i'm from 'faggot' is the slur and so that 1 stings.

i don't think 'nigger' actually bothers me. just this weekend a white friend used it in my presence as he was quoting "The Chappelle Show" and in that moment i was aware i was "supposed to be" offended but i just wasn't. i knew he was quoting and i couldn't blame him for it. the moment passed, i laughed (b/c the quote was funny) and that was that. i use 'nigger' myself as a term of endearment (i see you Q-Tip) w/only my closest most select Black friends. My Niggas, i mean. LOL

faggot is said with a lot more venom than i've ever heard someone use queer.

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avi: "it could all be simple, but you'd rather make it hard."

the one and only: www.myspace.com/mayn1

think i'm lyin'?!: www.damaynwun.blogspot.com

well both are bad but sissy is just like ugk

ugh!

this exchange is slowly spiralling.

keep it clean!

next to blaizeblack that is

omg.


*beginning of the end*

(400 is the goal i heard)

and too much gay

ew

be prepared to unhinge your reptilian jaws

i'm a full grown man now and i'm ready.

me i want four sons, altho i would like to see how pretty of a baby my nut would produce, im prolly gonna go the adoption route and not until im "married"

they names will be:

taurus
naeme(aka brando)
nukuru (aka knock)
pierre (he gon be the ghey one)

i like the names Ian and Zoe.

my last name is too long for first names longer than two syllables.

*shrug*

Ian is a good look on a Black man. sorry!

i want a son to be named after me and then 1 more kid of any sex. i like kids in pairs so if i have more than 2 there have to be 4 or 6, etc.

except for Junior i haven't thought of any other names.

at least one daughter
Valdez- boy name

yall must gonna be ballers.

would u legally marry a dude?

boy names
Onaje Joaquin
Zion Nakai

girl names
Garcelle
Raina

imma be a God-father in about one month, so imma *really* know in about 6 months

Langston = son
Zora = daughter

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avi: "it could all be simple, but you'd rather make it hard."

the one and only: www.myspace.com/mayn1

think i'm lyin'?!: www.damaynwun.blogspot.com

.

go check that out, son.

.

omg.

you mad about the sissy thing? that was a j-o-k-e.

im like the furthest thing from actually, bout to eat a veggie pizza!

i always liked paired names for twins (not rhyming ones like mine).

:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

avi: "it could all be simple, but you'd rather make it hard."

the one and only: www.myspace.com/mayn1

think i'm lyin'?!: www.damaynwun.blogspot.com

:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

avi: "it could all be simple, but you'd rather make it hard."

the one and only: www.myspace.com/mayn1

think i'm lyin'?!: www.damaynwun.blogspot.com

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Homos comin out of the woodwork left and right.
People (who are so gay they might as well be out lol) bein "outted" in a a post.
Lesbian mini-beef.
Sex bein exchanged for Mumbo Sauce.

OKP has come a long way since I was the only homo scandal. I'm so proud :-)

>People (who are so gay they might as well be out lol) bein
>"outted" in a a post.

I knew some mothafcka would take post 400...that was sposed 2 b mine. (see #361).

a old queer!
age-24 on Feb 24th
Location-Chicago

What that mean Nicca?

what's the news?

I have taken on lurker status!, Nothing up really working again out at Follet Higher Education Group, in Oakbrook I live in the burbs now Lyons that is I don't have a social life anymore.

what's the news?

i hate ken hutcherson. this would be HOT if it were televised nationally.


Pastor, county executive to debate gay rights' parallel to civil rights
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002838368_simshutcherson02m.html
By Lornet Turnbull
Seattle Times staff reporter

The Rev. Ken Hutcherson grew up in the segregated South, the illegitimate child of a poor Alabama family whose members rode in the back of the bus and drank from blacks-only water fountains.

King County Executive Ron Sims was raised in conservative Eastern Washington, marching alongside his parents for racial equality and enduring the kind of discrimination he has called searing.

Tonight at Town Hall Seattle, the two will confront each other over the issue of gay rights and whether the gay-rights movement parallels the civil-rights era of the 1960s that helped shape their lives.

Sponsored by the weekly alternative newspaper The Stranger, tonight's debate comes amid an effort to recall gay-rights legislation narrowly passed by the Legislature last month.

The measure added sexual orientation to a list of classifications such as race, sex and religion that are protected from discrimination in areas such as housing and employment.

Hutcherson, pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Redmond, testified against the bill, gaining national prominence on the issue last year when he threatened to boycott Microsoft if it didn't withdraw support for the measure.

Sims, a longtime supporter of gay-rights issues, encouraged a lawsuit against him and King County in 2004 that brought the gay-marriage question into the state's courts.

"We've interviewed both men several times," said Josh Feit, The Stranger's news editor. "They are dueling quotes smashed onto a page. We thought we'd bring them together to duke it out."

Wier Harman, executive director of Town Hall, was more reserved. "We've framed this not only in terms of gay rights, but the relationship of the gay-rights movement to the civil-rights movement. That in itself has proven a polarizing dimension to this debate."

Issues such as gay rights and specifically gay marriage have created division in the black community, especially in black churches.

Hutcherson, who made his mark on the football field before a knee injury ended his career with the Seattle Seahawks, has taken the position that there is no comparison between gay rights and civil rights.

He is fond of saying that he's never known an ex-black person but has many ex-gays in his multicultural congregation of 3,500.

"The problem we have is this: Gays don't want tolerance anymore, they want 100 percent acceptance," he said in a recent interview about the gay-rights legislation. "That's not going to happen."

For Sims, a longtime public servant, images of prejudice and discrimination from his childhood in Spokane inform his position on equal treatment.

As a minister ordained by the National Baptist Church, he is prohibited by church policy from conducting gay marriages, but he has been outspoken in his advocacy of gay causes.

But since I'm coming to terms with the realities of dealing in a straight relationship (this is the first true time for me), I really would like some input esp. from bi ladies dealing in straight relationships.

For our fellow queers (I love that word), please give your input regarding personal situations and offer advice for me because I want to get my feelings straight before I get back home and settle up with the steady.

Of course, this is all if you feel like it and ask what you like.


1.) What kind of bi are you? (Please don't hate on this.)
Please see replies #138 and #142.

2.) Would you consider your being bi a phase? Like if you settle up with a man, you stop looking at women?
No and no. Not even remotely possible.

3.) What kind of life did you picture before the reality of bi slapped you in the face?
I thought that I would find the perfect woman, get married, have kids. Or perhaps I would settle into a nice triad, with myself being the primary in two separate relationships.

My life for the past few years really didn't allow for involvement in a gay scene and so I ended up being "the bi chick" people thought of for threesomes and what not. I miss spending time with a woman romantically and it sucks that here my interactions have been limited either random sex or fake bi women.

4.) How do you deal in a straight relationship?
Of course I've dated men before, but I never allowed them to get close. They were pawns; for some reason I just closed off a part of myself to men.

Fast forward to now. I've met a guy and want to try to make things work for a LOT of different reasons. I've worked out my issues and what not, but I still find myself wondering exactly what a relationship with a man is like. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not wavering on the guy. I just would like to know about your experiences.

For instance:
a) Does your man what to participate in your queer relationship? Do you want him to? Do you think this would be a violation?

b) How did your man react when you first broach the subject? Did he always know or did you inform him later? What was his opinion on your sexuality? Did he state any outlines for continued queer relatoins?

ALL REPONSES WELCOMED
c) Are you poly? Do you only date poly? What kind of poly relationshp would you like? Or have you like me abandoned all hope?


I think that's it for now. Damn, so many questions.

>1.) What kind of bi are you?

i consider myself bi- because of my past relationships with guys.
i dont want to demean those in any way.
and i still have *some attractions to guys but its not significant enough for me to consider a relationship beyond sex/ one night stand.
just the other day i realised it had been a loooong while since i thought of a guy romantically.
>
>2.) Would you consider your being bi a phase?
I used to wish it was a phase....actually this whole homosexuality thing...
But I never stop looking at women (is this even possible?) even before I was physically with a woman I usedta look at women.
If I settled with a man he’d have to understand that I’d have to have a woman on the side. I don’t think there’s any getting round to that!

3.) What kind of life did you picture before the reality of
>bi slapped you in the face?

I guess I shouldn’t answer this cause im the opposite? I see myself settling down with a woman, her having my kids… and us playing house. Shit I’d love for this to happen before I start grad school!!
i dont remember ever thinking of marriage in the legal sense of it (as is). before the possibility of women.. i was gonna be a single succesful yatch!

4.) How do you deal in a straight relationship?
Eh?
I don’t know. I think for the most part I had good relationships. I’m a lot more giving with a female. I tend to have longer relationships with females. But for the most part…

im not saying i totally exclude the possibility of being in a m-f relationship. i just highly doubt it would happen anytime soon!

>i consider myself bi- because of my past relationships with
>guys.
>i dont want to demean those in any way.
>and i still have *some attractions to guys but its not
>significant enough for me to consider a relationship beyond
>sex/ one night stand.
>just the other day i realised it had been a loooong while
>since i thought of a guy romantically.

This was the way I was with men up until recently. I could not wrap my head around the idea. I enjoy sleeping with men, but they just didn't do "it" for me like women. After coming here and messing with fake bi's, living in an enironment were the the gender roles are rigid, and sexual fulfillment is kept under wraps- I truly saw no point in dating women. And so I became familiar with men.

It's only recently that I began considering anything serious with a man and I'm still trying to figure out how these things go. Since things are in the pre-conception stage, I'm trying to get an idea of what to expect. Fuck a man, I can do. Have a relationship with a man, I have no clue. It's not like I'm offering him anything different- I'm not. The little things worry me and too shy(?) to show just how inexperienced I am when it comes to sharing my heart and life with a man. This is a whole new thing for me.

>>2.) Would you consider your being bi a phase?
>I used to wish it was a phase....actually this whole
>homosexuality thing...
>But I never stop looking at women (is this even possible?)
>even before I was physically with a woman I usedta look at
>women.
>If I settled with a man he’d have to understand that I’d have
>to have a woman on the side. I don’t think there’s any getting
>round to that!

I never thought I would settle with a man, at least not as a primary. But my circumstances (living abroad) kind of forced me to get out in the straight world and date, have sex w/men... I was tired of life as a wall flower. But I found that my experiences just made my opinion of men worse.

Then I met some nice men who began the process that eventually led to my realizing myself as 50/50 bi. It was a growing process for me and I'm still learning. Love is an extension of that and both genders are capable of continuing that journey with me. It's more about the person rather than gender for me now. I'm fine with at because that's how I started out in the first place.

>3.) What kind of life did you picture before the reality of
>>bi slapped you in the face?
>
>I guess I shouldn’t answer this cause im the opposite? I see
>myself settling down with a woman, her having my kids… and us
>playing house. Shit I’d love for this to happen before I
>start grad school!!
>i dont remember ever thinking of marriage in the legal sense
>of it (as is). before the possibility of women.. i was gonna
>be a single succesful yatch!

When I say reality of being bi, I think more of public perception, your ideals vs. what is accepted... For me my sexuality merely followed along the lines of my ideals- that being love sees no color, gender, creed, etc. As I grew older and interacted more with "society" (I was a very sheltered child), I found that my ideals were challenged and that was directly reflected in my sexuality and those whom I found myself gravitating towards. For example, if my interactions with a female had a strong negative impact I would fall back on men until something else happened. If it wasn't to strong, then I would merely look for a different "type" of person.

I would jump back and forth, randomly, on some groundless reason because I wasn't right with myself. So I had to step back and work on myself before I could truly let anyone else in my life as a partner, it didn't matter what gender they were. As I worked more with myself and resolved the issues (emotional and mental scaring) that arose from that, the more I was able to let myself love and be loved and return. I was able to learn HOW I express my love, what my boundaries are, what I require in a mate, etc.

At the end of the day, gender qualification is not important on my list of things that I must have in a relationship. The sex and our lives together will be great regardless.

>4.) How do you deal in a straight relationship?
>Eh?
>I don’t know. I think for the most part I had good
>relationships. I’m a lot more giving with a female. I tend to
>have longer relationships with females. But for the most
>part…

It's always been the same way for me too.

>im not saying i totally exclude the possibility of being in a
>m-f relationship. i just highly doubt it would happen anytime
>soon!

I feel the same way, but simply because I'm in transition. Men are always up under me, so I have no problem with them. But where does a bi woman go to find a quality wife? I have no clue anymore. I've been out of the game for way too long.

>But since I'm coming to terms with the realities of dealing
>in a straight relationship (this is the first true time for
>me), I really would like some input esp. from bi ladies
>dealing in straight relationships.
>
>For our fellow queers (I love that word), please give your
>input regarding personal situations and offer advice for me
>because I want to get my feelings straight before I get back
>home and settle up with the steady.
>
>Of course, this is all if you feel like it and ask what you
>like.
>
>
>1.) What kind of bi are you? (Please don't hate on this.)
> Please see replies #138 and #142.

I am my type of bi lol

>2.) Would you consider your being bi a phase? Like if you
>settle up with a man, you stop looking at women?

It is definitely not a phase but I do respect my partner's wishes no matter what gender.

>
>3.) What kind of life did you picture before the reality of
>bi slapped you in the face?

The same life anyone else would want, I just don't know if the story will end with a woman or a man by my side.
>
>4.) How do you deal in a straight relationship?
> Of course I've dated men before, but I never allowed them
>to get close. They were pawns; for some reason I just closed
>off a part of myself to men.
>
> Fast forward to now. I've met a guy and want to try to
>make things work for a LOT of different reasons. I've worked
>out my issues and what not, but I still find myself wondering
>exactly what a relationship with a man is like. Please don't
>get me wrong, I'm not wavering on the guy. I just would like
>to know about your experiences.
>
> For instance:
> a) Does your man what to participate in your queer
>relationship? Do you want him to? Do you think this would be
>a violation?
I'll talk about my ex since he's the most recent relationship. No he did not want me to participate in any romantic relationship other than ours. He considered sleeping with another woman to be cheating and I respected that since no matter the sex of who you're fucking, you're still having sex w/ another person.

> b) How did your man react when you first broach the subject?
> Did he always know or did you inform him later? What was his
>opinion on your sexuality? Did he state any outlines for
>continued queer relations?

He knew before we hooked up that I was bisexual, which made him a bit wary. I was just who I was in his eyes and my sexuality only became an issue 2x (nothing major)


>ALL REPONSES WELCOMED
> c) Are you poly? Do you only date poly? What kind of poly
>relationshp would you like? Or have you like me abandoned all
>hope?

No I can't say I am because I've never been in a poly relationship. I guess I'd like to try it but I think I'm way too possessive for that to work lol

>I think that's it for now. Damn, so many questions.
>

.

It just feels so good to be here.

wit ur most recent reply, i hope u get some answers going, i dont really kno what to say but u kinda educated me more on being bi

>wit ur most recent reply, i hope u get some answers going, i
>dont really kno what to say but u kinda educated me more on
>being bi

I hope some of the answers start pouring in too. It would be great to explore the varying aspects of queer life together and spotlight those issues dear to us.

As for my being bi... I ALWAYS knew I was bi, and didn't know enough to fake it. By the time I realized, I didn't give a fux. Everyone was already calling me gay by that point b/c I wouldn't denounce females as SO material. If the shoe fits...

Y’know what im talking about.
The ladies that identify as butch/dykes/ or the pillow biting femmes…
Or for the guys: the homothugs , or the voguing divas…

What’s the purpose/ point?
Do we think its some sort of identifying with heteronormal ‘gender roles’?
(cause you tend to identify certain behaviours with certain groups of folks, right?)

Or is it an entity entirely different from the so called norm?
Since gender is always political…. Is it a political statement? What exactly?
or is it just what it is..
(as I believe…. Shit my ambition is to be a butch-dyke. The kind that walks in a room everyone knows im dyke. I haven’t mastered the mean-mug yet, though) but my reason is because i kinda get tired of being ambiguous. like i want that to be my statement, so folks dont always assume im a hetero

and…. What do we think of transexuality/ transgendered?

get your queer studies on...

http://feminism.eserver.org/sexual-gender-identity.txt

Sexual Identity and Gender Identity are similar in some ways and very different in others. Both refer to how one thinks of a person. The existence and perpetuation of gender and sexual identities is based in the historic and continuing oppression (systematic mistreatment condoned by society as a whole) of people do not conform to certain aspects of society's gender roles. Gender roles refer to the clothing, behaviors, thoughts, feelings, relationships, etc., that are considered appropriate or inappropriate for members of each sex.
However, sex, gender identity, and sexual identity refer to different aspects of oneself.

Therefore, one may be any combination of sex (male/female), gender (masculine/feminine), and sexual identity (straight, bisexual, lesbian/gay.) In recent history, people oppressed on the basis of different sexual identities (bisexuals, lesbians, gay men) and people oppressed on the basis of gender identity have formed communities which are partly separate and partly overlapping with one another. Because of this historic separation, someone who is a member of one of these communities does not necessarily understand and prioritize the issues of others of these communities. One who belongs to more than one of these communities may feel welcome in both, but usually neither addresses all one's needs or the way that one's needs from different communities overlap or interact.

Gender identity refers to how one thinks of one's own gender: whether one thinks of oneself as a man (masculine) or as a woman (feminine.) Society prescribes arbitrary rules or gender roles (how one is supposed to and not supposed to dress, act, think, feel, relate to others, think of oneself, etc.) based on one's sex (whether one has a vagina or a penis.) These gender roles are called feminine and masculine. Anyone who does not abide by these arbitrary rules may be targeted for mistreatment ranging from not being included in people's circle of friends, through the cold shoulder, snide comments, verbal harrassment, assault, rape, and murder based on one's (perceived) gender identity.

Sexual identity refers to how one thinks of oneself in terms of whom one is sexually and romantically attracted to, specifically whether one is attracted to members of the same gender as one's own or the other gender than one's own. Society prescribes arbitrary rules that one should be sexually and romantically attracted to members of the other gender than one's own, and should not be attracted to members of the same gender as one's own. Anyone who does not abide by these arbitrary rules may be targeted for mistreatment ranging from not being included in people's circle of friends, through the cold shoulder, snide comments, verbal harrassment, assault, rape, and murder based on one's (perceived) sexual identity. (See homophobia and biphobia.) When one's sex and one's gender identity are different, one may base one's sexual identity on either one. Alternatively, one may have two sexual identities, one as a man and one as a woman.

These are terms often used within the sexual identity and gender identity communities. Self-identification terms are often spelled with initial caps (e.g. Queer, Bisexual) to emphasize that they refer to how one think of oneself, rather than how someone else labels one. (For instance, researchers often classify bisexual-identified women and men as lesbians and gay men and transvestites as transsexuals, obscuring important distinctions.)

>Y’know what im talking about.
>The ladies that identify as butch/dykes/ or the pillow biting
>femmes…
>Or for the guys: the homothugs , or the voguing divas…
>
>What’s the purpose/ point?
>Do we think its some sort of identifying with heteronormal
>‘gender roles’?

sometimes i think that's it. that we take on certain roles b/c we're conditioned to think of ourselves and the world in a certain way and in order to live w/ourselves we have to put ourselves in 1 of those roles. yes we put our own spin on them but they still relate strongly to the conditioning.

>Or is it an entity entirely different from the so called norm?

and at other times i think our performances are a revolutionary act against our conditioning.

right now i think it's a mixture of both or that it varies from person to person and moment to moment. i can't make a concrete statement either way b/c there's so much variance. and i love the variance.

>Since gender is always political…. Is it a political
>statement? What exactly?

maybe it's more of an homage than a political statement. i dunno. like i said it varies so much there's no way to get a hold on it and make a blanket statement.

>or is it just what it is..

this too.

>(as I believe…. Shit my ambition is to be a butch-dyke. The
>kind that walks in a room everyone knows im dyke. I haven’t
>mastered the mean-mug yet, though)

i love butch-dykes. is it b/c i love men? LOL

but my reason is because i
>kinda get tired of being ambiguous. like i want that to be my
>statement, so folks dont always assume im a hetero

i know right?

but most of the time i'm glad when ppl don't assume i'm gay b/c i don't fit the gay stereotypes i know and assume ppl are working from. like, i don't want ppl to assume i'm gay and then ask me shit about shopping or home decorating or voguing..etc. i'm not into any of that. on the real that's my own internalized homophobia at work. i don't want ppl to assume i'm gay b/c i was taught the gays are wrong and i don't want to be wrong. try as i might that shit is buried deep in me and i don't know it'll ever be gone. i don't act on it though, i'm good at squashing it.

>and…. What do we think of transexuality/ transgendered?

i'm all for them being whoever it is they need to be. God bless 'em.

>
>but most of the time i'm glad when ppl don't assume i'm gay
>b/c i don't fit the gay stereotypes i know and assume ppl are
>working from. like, i don't want ppl to assume i'm gay and
>then ask me shit about shopping or home decorating or
>voguing..etc. i'm not into any of that. on the real that's
>my own internalized homophobia at work. i don't want ppl to
>assume i'm gay b/c i was taught the gays are wrong and i don't
>want to be wrong. try as i might that shit is buried deep in
>me and i don't know it'll ever be gone. i don't act on it
>though, i'm good at squashing it.


i dont want people to stereotype me either.. but i dont want to always have to have *that conversation. like at work, everyone asks about a boyfriend... or settling down in marriage or ish like that
and its coming to a point where i feel pressured to 'come out'/.
i dont want that pressure. i think in an ideal world folks shouldn't just assume one's partner is a male (in my case). instead of asking if i have a boyfriend they should ask about my partner.. y'know? that way i dont feel like the conversation has already been closeted into heterosexuality.

i think if i was a total butch dyke that assumption wouldn't be there.
of course then i'd be opening the stereotypes can of worms and i dont know if that is any better.

>
>>and…. What do we think of transexuality/ transgendered?
>
>i'm all for them being whoever it is they need to be. God
>bless 'em.

lol.

this isn't a request, just yet.

we still got shit to talk about.

i say we riot Stonewall style!

i'm really not good at flirting in person. like, not at all.

and when i say really not good, i mean im REALLY "okplayerish" with my stuff.

generally speaking it has to be thrown at me (and ive been fortunate to get it thrown at me a few times, thankfully) or the flirting+ aint happening, underdig?

so in what manners have yall found success?

i have a little crush on a coworker at my new job. she gave me extended eye contact when we first met. like really extended smiling. anyhow yesterday i was finally alone with her for 20 seconds in the elevator and i asked her where she was from cause she looks so familiar (she actually does). it went over well enough but i still feel like a herb.

i have no probelem with intial hellos and how are you doings©(rudy and clarence at the school dance), but beyond that i just want it to be over with as quickly as possible. and once it is over i want to be back at it again.

yeah so... thoughts?

>i'm really not good at flirting in person. like, not at all.

me either. I am painfully shy... but get a few drinks in me?? it's a wrap!


>so in what manners have yall found success?

I put on the cute shy face and I am very respectful. and the wommens looove it. I also listen to what they are saying rather than talking a lot. It seems that women love to talk about themselves.

other than that, I don't really try to flirt. Yeah, I've been fortunate to have it thrown at me, but I'm best at standing on the wall *trying* to look cute ;-)

>
>>i'm really not good at flirting in person. like, not at all.
>
>me either. I am painfully shy... but get a few drinks in me??
>it's a wrap!

yeah drinking always helps. oh that sounded horrible! im trying to find a good un-inebriated method now.


>
>>so in what manners have yall found success?
>
>I put on the cute shy face and I am very respectful. and the
>wommens looove it. I also listen to what they are saying
>rather than talking a lot. It seems that women love to talk
>about themselves.

i don't know how to spark it though. like beyond hello i dont know how to get them talking about themselves (or me or whatever)

>other than that, I don't really try to flirt. Yeah, I've been
>fortunate to have it thrown at me, but I'm best at standing on
>the wall *trying* to look cute ;-)
>

yea, i dont really know how to spark it either... i just let em start runnin their mouth. eye contact be killin' em tho

>i'm really not good at flirting in person. like, not at all.

I constantly flirt with everyone and everything. It's not something I do on purpose, I just like spreading good vibes and possses, as one friend put it, "unabashed sexuality." So of course the runs over.

>generally speaking it has to be thrown at me (and ive been
>fortunate to get it thrown at me a few times, thankfully) or
>the flirting+ aint happening, underdig?

From my point of view, people approach me and I rarely approach others. At the same time, if I appreciate what's within my sight no-one present has any doubt about it. "It's my game and I welcome everyone to join me..." My sexuality is a BIG part of who I am, and also the part most expressed with the least effort. I like sharing that part of myself with others in a positive and nonthreatening way.

Anyways, all that was to say is it depends on point of view b/c I'm sure that some consider my behavior to be an invitation/throwing myself at them.

but it was harmless, just having a good time, hanging out, kind of flirting :)

If I was seriously interested I wouldn't flirt with a female.

I have had women hit me over the head and tell me "HEY I like you DAMN! up until that point I was completely clueless.

nowwhen I was bartending, I would flirt with any and everyone but that is the nature of bartending :) I knew I wasn't going home with anyone and that it was just while at work.

Dee

like-mindededness, or any route that forms a connection, and since i almost always attract women +5yrs older than me (and vice versa) they're usually the ones to make the initiative, and if i'm interested enough in them, i'll try to meet them half way.

but trying to pick someone up at the library, grocery store, or even club/bar, i wouldn't know how to approach that. i've always met them through school or the work i do. so i pretty much got to see what they were like beforehand.

im hanging out with a group of lesbians this evening.
these skills we speak of might come in handy!!



>i'm really not good at flirting in person. like, not at all.
>
>and when i say really not good, i mean im REALLY "okplayerish"
>with my stuff.
>
>generally speaking it has to be thrown at me (and ive been
>fortunate to get it thrown at me a few times, thankfully) or
>the flirting+ aint happening, underdig?
>
>so in what manners have yall found success?
>
>i have a little crush on a coworker at my new job. she gave me
>extended eye contact when we first met. like really extended
>smiling. anyhow yesterday i was finally alone with her for 20
>seconds in the elevator and i asked her where she was from
>cause she looks so familiar (she actually does). it went over
>well enough but i still feel like a herb.
>
>i have no probelem with intial hellos and how are you
>doings©(rudy and clarence at the school dance), but beyond
>that i just want it to be over with as quickly as possible.
>and once it is over i want to be back at it again.
>
>yeah so... thoughts?
>
>
>

I think all of us getting together would be a great idea.

I can't make it to the NY RE this year but I think having an OKGay Re during some high profile gay(or black Gay) event would be a lot of fun. I know a lot of folks were in DC last year.

What about Hotlanta's black pride isn't that during Labor day weekend? or hell just meeting up in SF during pride one year or Toronto.

How many of us would travel? or meet for an extended weekend?
Where would we like to go?

I would be happy to help plan something for 2007...

Dee

id be down to do that in 2007 fo sho, also by labor day (yes that is atl black pride but they also have one for MLKJr weekend) 2007 i and few other okhomos will already be down in atl so that would be cool too

only thing is we get together during a pride, i would like to have like a couple events where *we* can just get together and connect with each otha seperate from all the other stuff that goes on during pride

but i think thats a great idea, we should start planning (make a committee) but first decide where

I vote San Fran/ Bay Area during their pride or Miami pride both 2007

i should b on the west coast in '07 so that works for me...btw, u shoulda been in atl this MLK that passed.

what was special about it?

and i was feeln friendly. we coulda hung out.

j/k











kinda

emotionally draining

u had me on a mufckin rollercoaster

.

month

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/herstory/

im saving this page on my favourites.

why was in uncomfortable?

me? i'm an art snob, and i feel bad about it sometimes. but, alas, i can't help it. i went to this poetry/art show two years ago...IT SUCKED! and it's on some self-conscious/self-absorbed bohomo shit, i nearly died.

i felt embarassed for everyone. ugh! i hate it.

but thanksgiving.

standing outside the club, line going round the block
its cold as hell.

this young'in, thuggish dyke is shit talking about why is it taking so long for folks to get in the club and shit.
basically being young, being hardcore.
apparently these two grown ass men masquerading as cops didn't like it
they ask her to leave.

wha?? for what?
leave, they say.
so she crosses the street is and is facing the club shouting
fuck C.C's y'all. i cant even get in the damn club
i dont see what these mofo's problem is
im just trying to be... fuck y;all bladdy bla.
we are all kinda amused, standing in line, shooting the shit,
cops feel somewhat 'threatened, i guess
they are like, you need to leave or you'll spend a night in jail.

for what? i know my rights...
she's steady cursing.
they cross the street, proceed to slam her on the ground and cuff her.

*dead silence on the line.
mofos cant believe this shit.
they push her into a cop car and drive off with her.

we are all wondering what her charge is gonna be?
and none of us said/ or did shit.
needless to say..
i ended up going home and not clubbing.


>why was in uncomfortable?
>
>me? i'm an art snob, and i feel bad about it sometimes. but,
>alas, i can't help it. i went to this poetry/art show two
>years ago...IT SUCKED! and it's on some
>self-conscious/self-absorbed bohomo shit, i nearly died.
>
>i felt embarassed for everyone. ugh! i hate it.

im like "NO. I.LIKE.GUYS!."

she (i call him "she" out of respect) calls the house for my roomate and anytime i answer the phone, she wants to be all flirty.

my roomate told her that i wasnt the least bit interested and she like "well what if i get a really sexy guy to have a 3some with us?"

the only reason im holding in the vomit is cause i dont want to offend her.

the vulnerability is too much.

the last time i felt uncomfortable around gays was when i was in miami for new years 04 and we went to this club, Club Boi and all the ppl in there were so messy and they swarmed around me and my best friend like we were celebrities and asked us where we bought our clothes...UGK and they had a "buffet" and i thought i would die just from looking at the food for too long

ppl even wanted to take pictures with us...ummmmmmmmmmmmm, i was just like *smh* "do better" we left within an hour and went back to south beach

i try my best to hold it in. but a lot of times i just can't help but be mortified.

the unc lgbtq club is trynna have a regular homo club in chapel hill
(cause its a damn shame we aint have one).
so i decide to stop by, on my way home, to support
(from watching a friend's band play a show)
anyway.

it was so wierd.
its like a bunch of hippies.
mainly white kids
doing wierd kind of gyrations on the dance floor
to hip hop music.
and all these folks was dressed kinda funny,
y'know?
kinda like going out their way to *look funny.
(i shoulda taken some pics to post, i think)

and some white girl came to talk to me, and shit
(actually two white girls that claimed they know me from somewhere).

it was like being in the twilight zone.
i have to go to purify myself in the waters of the black gay club
this thursday...
just to get over *that experience.

i'll give them my money in support,
*just please dont make me go there, again!




>why was in uncomfortable?
>
>me? i'm an art snob, and i feel bad about it sometimes. but,
>alas, i can't help it. i went to this poetry/art show two
>years ago...IT SUCKED! and it's on some
>self-conscious/self-absorbed bohomo shit, i nearly died.
>
>i felt embarassed for everyone. ugh! i hate it.

I went to Club Twist, a gay club on South Beach.
And I am not used to white gay clubs; I almost always feel out of place amid the annoying dance music and shirtless cornballs.
Well, Club Twist is mad white and Latino- but like, white Latino. That made for a tacky, slutty combination, with mofos hookin up in the corners of the club in their tight ass tanktops to the sounds of technofied salsa blaring from the speakers.

I often don't get much play in a white gay club, but I sho was lucky that night. First, a Venezuelan guy came up to me and offered me a card that would get me free drinks at the bar. In exchange, he said I had to let him fuck me that night. I shook my head in agreement. Ha, I took the card and ditched the Latino.

But then Pablo found me again later that night. "Watchu workin with, Papi?" he said, and grabbed my dick! And then stuck his tongue in my mouth! I'm so not a big kissing fan, or of people grabbin my dick, so I told him that this is not Venezuela and he betta not touch me ever again.

And then this black drunk ass nigga bought me a drink. And he said to me, "Do you know what you are? Sexy, that's what," and he kissed me on the lips! Omg, two different men have kissed me on the lips in 20 minutes. I took my drink...took his drink lol, and then disgustedly pushed past him. He aint like that, and proceded to curse me out. Tsk tsk, black folk always gotta try to be the violent ones.

And then this black guy introduced himself to me, since we were one of the few black people there. He said he goes to Florida A&M and bla blah blah, I didn't pay attention cause he was ugly and mad country.

All in all, it was a horrifyin first experience at Twist.
And I think I've fostered an unhealthy prejudice against white Latinos.

I went back the next night, tho. LOL

Damn -- as I obviously am in life, I'm quite late in reading & responding to this post.

Of course -- back when I began my OkayPlayer-ism (@ the early beginning)... which later progressed into constant lurker-istic behaviors... I wasn't completely convinced that I was queer.

(...umm.. yes, I know. I am hearing the judgemental "tsk..tsk...tsk"-ing as I type... so feel free to save the commentary).

Anyhow -- what a difference (and what an AWARENESS) the years bring.

So -- here I proudly post. Hey Y'all!! Nice to meetcha.

32-male-Charlotte, NC (formerly Detroit, MI... and still part of The D in my heart).

welcome brotha

i don't tell erybody and there aint no rainbows on my car or anything like that but if asked, i never deny.

i am very closeted, but i guess it is what it is, its not ideal but...whatever

but my momma knows and a good deal of my close friends

most ppl just think im "arsty" or "weird"

but if they ask, i'll tell em..

I was more afraid of coming out here than to anyone in real life. Kinda silly, huh?

(almost 500 replies and no thread about HIV? GREAT! seriously.)

but yeah, what about it?

you skurred?

you not skurred?

me? i'm scared and not scared at the same time. i'm scared for my ppl who are living w/it and i'm not scared of getting it. but then i am scared of getting it b/c it's criminally easy and could happen to me. i don't want that fear to paralyze me and it doesn't. i've had 10 yrs of good times (*pause*)



and i still don't have it or anything else i know of. (sidenote: why don't i have herpes? i should. and i'm overdue for crabs.) i know more about HIV and prevention than i ever have so hopefully i'll keep living w/o it. i managed to stay (that) disease free (bitch © Kim) even when i barely knew what i was doing and now that i know my chances have only improved. still i'm troubled when i hear/read HIV stats b/c i sit right at the epicenter of the pandemic here in America. well, i used to at least when i was younger. is it weird that i'm a little sad to be out of the main demographic b/c i'm getting old?

i dont think i'm necessarily scared. and my experience with hiv/aids, even the personal ones, have been with folks that are a bit older - out of my peer group.

i expect fear to surface when someone i know KNOW, went to school with, in my peer circle became poz. but for me, for now? it's not a tangible fear.

1 of them seroconverted last year and the other has been positive the whole time i've known him (5 yrs) but i just found out. they're both friends of friends and right around my age (1 is 2 yrs older the other is 2 yrs younger).

in 2004 1 of my oldest friends seroconverted. i've known him since 1994...we met at the U of C. he was probably the 1st out gay man my age i ever met. if not the 1st he was 1 of the 1st. i've always considered him a mentor of sorts in part b/c he was the head of the school's gay student association when we met and i looked up to him. he gave me the courage to be a bit more out w/it. when he seroconverted it hit me kinda hard. it made HIV more real for me. i'd already had a cousin my age seroconvert in 2000 but her life is pretty unlike mine. this friend is more like me.

before all of these ppl i kinda thought HIV was an old person's disease. i mean i knew better b/c i worked here and had the stats and regularly saw younger ppl w/HIV but it wasn't real to me yet. it's more real now.

>before all of these ppl i kinda thought HIV was an old
>person's disease. i mean i knew better b/c i worked here and
>had the stats and regularly saw younger ppl w/HIV but it
>wasn't real to me yet. it's more real now.

1 of them seroconverted last year and the other has been positive the whole time i've known him (5 yrs) but i just found out. they're both friends of friends and right around my age (1 is 2 yrs older the other is 2 yrs younger).

in 2004 1 of my oldest friends seroconverted. i've known him since 1994...we met at the U of C. he was probably the 1st out gay man my age i ever met. if not the 1st he was 1 of the 1st. i've always considered him a mentor of sorts in part b/c he was the head of the school's gay student association when we met and i looked up to him. he gave me the courage to be a bit more out w/it. when he seroconverted it hit me kinda hard. it made HIV more real for me. i'd already had a cousin my age seroconvert in 2000 but her life is pretty unlike mine. this friend is more like me.

before all of these ppl i kinda thought HIV was an old person's disease. i mean i knew better b/c i worked here and had the stats and regularly saw younger ppl w/HIV but it wasn't real to me yet. it's more real now.

when i was a teenager i noticed a family member had way too many prescription drugs, so i looked to see wut two of them were for. i found out they were commonly used by aids/hiv patients. i kinda felt numb...later it was confirmed that this person had hiv. i wasnt sexually active then, but now that i am ....(i took a while but it happened :-) ) its kinda scary.

i havent seen this person get very ill, but i suspect ill be even more paranoid if i see them get sick. i never allow myself to think about the toll the illness can take.

especially with all those other things out there that u mentioned (crabs, herpes). a question i have related to this is: Has anyone here given or received oral sex with a condom? And what was that like?

Has anyone here given or received oral sex with a condom?
>And what was that like?

i had a guy put a condom on me before oral sex b/c he said i was too leaky. i was somewhat offended/taken aback at 1st but then i got over it. the experience was okay but definitely not as good as it might have been w/o the condom.

.

in the 80s or early 90s i dont really kno, but for my family members that kno about me, they always tell me to be extra careful and I kno a lot of that has to do with Randy (RIP), i didnt kno him tho and no one really talks about him either, i think it was real hurtful

it has NEVER been discussed. we got like 2 other huge elephants in the room that nobody mentions...

like, it's not about not getting it, it's about holdin out as long as possible.

since i came out (or should i say stopped lying to myself) 2 of my closest friends got it. i dont know a WHOLE lot about prevention. i just think my best bet is not fuck ppl i dont know (meaning not bein a HOmo)and wrap it up EVERYtime.

but yeah that sounds like good prevention

but i take a blanket no raw sex stance

well cept for my now ex SO we usta to do it *cough*raw*cough* but after our first major break up and then make up we went to condoms from there and got tested and all was good, should get tested again soon tho

ugk i hate HIV/AIDS!

the very fact that u have to get tested annoys me

(i know... shows lack of empathy, no?).

because of this i rarely think about protection with women. (even though, yes, i got those good flavoured dental dams!!)

but.. i've know known too many people die of hiv.
3 of my friends, 1 in 2001, 2 in 2004 and i last year.
but they are sort of not "in my age/ peer group.
these are guys who peaked late 80's early 90's
and these are folks who dabbled in shit like heroin, and all kinds of drugs too, so there was the additional needle risk.
(one of my hetero buddies.... currently poz... yep- heroin)

but. hey, i also found out this round-the-way girl i know that's about 23- and very straight is poz...

i used to work with PLWH/A's about 2-3 years ago. had to stop because everyone i got close to would eventually die.
i got tired of that emotional baggage.

but.... yeah. my life's goal is to be back in Africa trying to come up with better prevention/ education programs.
so i figure its always (in some way) going to figure in my life.
until.

So, im I scared?
No.. I have enough information about this disease.
I know its preventable.. this is not the common cold.

But I am scared *for folks that don’t bother to find out how to protect self
And others because… well. Nowadays it’s a chronic disease anyway.
and we don’t talk about it as much as we should



>(almost 500 replies and no thread about HIV? GREAT!
>seriously.)
>
>but yeah, what about it?
>
>you skurred?
>
>you not skurred?
>
>me? i'm scared and not scared at the same time. i'm scared
>for my ppl who are living w/it and i'm not scared of getting
>it. but then i am scared of getting it b/c it's criminally
>easy and could happen to me. i don't want that fear to
>paralyze me and it doesn't. i've had 10 yrs of good times
>(*pause*)
>
>
>
>and i still don't have it or anything else i know of.
>(sidenote: why don't i have herpes? i should. and i'm overdue
>for crabs.) i know more about HIV and prevention than i ever
>have so hopefully i'll keep living w/o it. i managed to stay
>(that) disease free (bitch © Kim) even when i barely knew what
>i was doing and now that i know my chances have only improved.
> still i'm troubled when i hear/read HIV stats b/c i sit right
>at the epicenter of the pandemic here in America. well, i
>used to at least when i was younger. is it weird that i'm a
>little sad to be out of the main demographic b/c i'm getting
>old?

I think.

it's fairly difficult to transmit the virus that way. you'd have to have an open wound in your mouth or bleeding gums and you'd have to take semen in your mouth. it's safer to have him skeet in your throat b/c there usually aren't open wounds or cuts in the esophagus and stomach acid kills HIV.

So that should cut down my risk factor.

But err, does precum count?
lol
Sometimes ya can't do anything about that.

you'd have to injest a fairly large amount under the same conditions i mentioned yesterday...bleeding gums, open wound in mouth...to transmit the virus. it's not as safe as saliva but not as dangerous as semen, blood, or breast milk.

you'd have to injest a fairly large amount under the same conditions i mentioned yesterday...bleeding gums, open wound in mouth...to transmit the virus. it's not as safe as saliva but not as dangerous as semen, blood, or breast milk.

mine

1. Common
2. Erykah Badu
3. The Roots

Common
Jill


i think im on a first name basis with them...dont pop my bubble

Jaguar (before that divorcing neo bullshit)
D’angelo
erykah

he's finna have my babies
he can name them

I would love to have a RE in SF in 2007 I have some off days coming up soon I'll post more on that.

No I'm not worried about hiv/aids like Akon said I(we)happen to be in a low risk group(most of us). I have lost too many friends/family members. It never gets easier.

I just found out last year that my sister is hiv+ she'll be 26 this month and his very heterosexual. I'm sad but since we really haven't seen/talked to each other in 18 years, it's not sinking in that it's MY sister.

The last time I was uncomfortable around gays was when I arrested a pre op trans mtf, who happened to be hooking in our city. lol no it wasn't the uniform change, it was just the sad desperate measures she was putting herself through, she was all ready for the shyte talking to begin from the officers with me and even commented that she expected abuse from us.

Yes there are those guys who i'm sure wanted to say something stupid but honestly they just felt bad for her, she pretty much had gone home with someone did get money up front and then got booted out, as she was attemting to get back into the apartment, other residents called us - 330-4 am, she had warrants so she got arrested.

It just made me feel really bad for a lot of kids out there still struggling with their identity/situations. But secretly I was thanking god/spirits above that I wasn't in those type of situations.

Dee

lets do it

this is great.

ogheyplayer community*

*applause*

.

for your acquaintances with SoWhat.

i insist!

omg ur crude/crass

lol

first of all, what's good to everybody. i'm on here on average like 5 minutes every day unless something rare happens where i have motivation to stay longer.

again...i'm 22. i'm a girl. i'm from dc, currently located in nj. i still spend a lot of time in dc...matter of fact, i'm going there sometime 2nite for the weekend.

*um...blkprince...um, i always have good intentions? i only hurt the feelings and emotions of those who don't listen and think they can change me. i've broken one heart that i take full responsibility for and it was among the worst mistakes of my life
*dredd...inbox
*akon...inbox and i say damn...i forgot i posted a pic of my mammary glands. that was the post when my homie took me to vicki's to see what size bra i wore.

the questions...(speaking only for women who love women)

1. On queer love...it definitly exists. i've definitely been in love relationships before and they've been beautiful.

2. As far as a queer re gathering...i'll be down if it's in atlanta. as far as the nyc re...i'll be there half the weekend and at dc pride wit akon the other half.

3. I prefer to identify with queer as opposed to lesbian. I have no problem shaking off orientation-related slurs, probably because I've heard the worst ones from my mother and people who are supposed to love me unconditionally. I honestly think that's the reason why they have no effect on me. Like I'ma give two shits if Joe Blow calls me a dyke because my mama already called me a "demon she-witch." and i use them all the time. my favs are carpetmuncher and sacrilegious leslie (if anyone's seen stranger inside).

4. Kids are a possibility. I never wanted them until my nephew was born. I'd like a son. Named after my hero, Michael Joe Jackson. I'll figure out some variation of his name. Whether or not I have kids depends on how responsible and sefless of an adult I develop into. And if I feel like "pausing" weed for 9 months...even longer if I breastfeed.

5. As far as gender roles go, people look at me and label me stud/butch/dom...but I just do as I feel. I love women. I've dated pillow princesses and "butches"...playing whatever role...and I've found that I'm attracted most to those women who resist labels. I'm extremely versatile. I know I confuse the shit outta my coworkers. Every other day I dress differently. I'll either rock a blouse, some tight dress slacks, some cfm boots, and curl my mane...or I'll be on manchild status and wear a sweater, some loose khakis, casual shoes, and throw my shit in a ponytail. I'm lazy above all else...so it usually depends on what I see or can reach first.

6. I rarely spit game. I can't just cold holler at a girl. I gotta watch her for awhile or do something to feel out what kind of person she is because I HATE rejection. In a club, I'll ask her to hold my drink while I tie my shoes. If she's smiling when I come back up, I'm talking to her. If not, I say thank you and walk away. Ladies also don't expect me to pop like I do if...let's say "crazy in love" or "lose control" comes on. In those cases, I'll just throw it on a fem and feed off of her inaccurate judgement. I become interesting to them. If I REALLY like someone...like genuinely...I won't holler for awhile. I'll get to know her and if I decide that she's worth my interest, I usually write a poem of endearment or something to her. In most cases, generally speaking from MY experience...women are attracted to those who show them no attention so with no holleration involved, I find myself swatting them away.

7. The most uncomfortable same sex setting? I just hate fatgirls in the club. They seem to gravitate towards me. And that's that trickery right there because I'm 130 on a GOOD day BEFORE I shit or piss. One fatgirl RUINED my tims the last time I went to the club. Another fatty left a dent in my shoe back in 2003 that still won't restore to the part of the shoe it used to be. And YES I still wear them cuz I'm a cheap bastard.
Ugly chicks piss me off too.

8. I'm out and proud, but I can't get with the rainbow being branded all over my life. I accept my life and I'm proud of it but if I don't know you or don't fuck with you...it's none of your business along with every other aspect of my existence.

9. I get tested every 6 months for HIV and I try to handle that shit in between partners, too. Sometimes that's impossible...like if I bring someone home with me, of course I can't. But I try to stay on top of it. I'm anti-dental dams but I rarely put my mouth on someone I don't know like that. Last time I got tested, my counselor and I spent about 15 minutes talking about how pointless rubber sheets were in any part of sexual activities amongst lesbians. I'm as careful as I can be.

10. Jean Grae, Erykah Badu, Kweli. I'm the hugest Jean Grae groupie. I've bought plane tickets and traveled to see her when I wasn't in the area. I have t-shirts, all the cds except for Jeanius...I have posters, damn near everything is autographed and her whole camp knows me. Lol. Erykah is my favorite female singer, and I've loved Kweli ever since Refection.

so i have to think up some questions.


hey.... anyone want to share about their 'first' homo experience.

like... age/ how'dyou start talking to the person/how'd you know the person was queer/ where did you meet them/ were you nervous?/ did you know what to do?/ did it become a relationship or was it a one nighter?/ what did you gain/ lose from the experience- like did u have that 'this is what its about!' epiphany or were you lackadaisical bladdybla....


yeah.
i want to hear some stories.
you can get as steamy as you want but i'd appreciate it if you'd answer a few of the above questions, first.




>sorry allies, maybe next time.
>
>and haters thanks for clicking, now bye.
>
>now on to the business.
>
>the new year has ushered in some new queers. identify
>yourself, dammit. this is your database.
>
>a/s/l would be helpful, LOL. jk
>
>yes, but feel free to check-in, post your favorite websites
>(inbox the male porn links to SoWhat and the female porn to
>luvlee2003, however), get your e-hollers on, honor your fav
>okqueer (even those that have seemingly LOGGED OFF).
>
>my non-straight brethren and sistren (even the ones i know
>that'll lurk in this post) this posts for you. you (mostly
>likely) wont' be judged.
>
>me first? 25/m/nyc. LOL

hell yeah i was nervous. i was waitin on dude to come to my crib and wen i heard the knock on the door i momentarily wished that i had just j/o. anyways, i opened the door. we talked some and he knew i was mad nervous. he askd if i wanted the lite off to make me more comfortable. "yes" and they were off he startd asking if i wanted him to take clothing off. "yes" and they were off.


so anyways, before he got there ide closed my bedroom door so that we wouldnt go in there and to prevent the possibility of anything happening. (lol, silly me) we ended up fuckin around in the shower....it was just ok.

questions?

so anything you asked for... you got.

i think i'd like to pay for ass.
i know, i know. its not p.c to admit
but the thought of paying for a guaranteed orgasm
(in my mind if im gon give you money, you better make sure that o happens)
and sex where nothing is expected of me.... but everything i ask for i get.... umm ummm.....
plus i like that sometimes no strings attached thing
is tempting. i think it might also be the forbidden aspect of it.

the closest i came?
i was in nairobi, for six weeks. i dont know any lesbians in kenya
or any joints where i could find some..
and i was kinda feenin'
so i was at this club called florida 2000
it's a 'working girls' club. but one of my fave joints cause its a anything goes kind of place...
i seen some gay dudes there.... doing whateva.
it's *that kind of place
nobody blinks over some shit.
this pretty girl in a lime green outfit was working a pole..
she was absolutely fucking gorgeous.
i was totally spell bound on some 'o the things i would do to you, girl
(lol, i guess i can't totally be non participatory)
i gave her all my money that night.
but she wasn't trynna leave with me.
(i didn't get to ask.... i didn't see her after her show).
i had some hella good fantasies after that.


the only yucky thing about this line of thought though
is that i'd be going in after a buncha random dicks
so i'd have to break out the dental dams and what have you.
and i dont necessarily enjoy the thought of random dicks not pleasing the vagina.
so that's always the *pause.

i guess this is gonna be one fantasy im not gonna go through with.
(shit... i've done everything else i ever dreamed of so i cant really complain).
but shit.....

>>sounds like you were paying dude...
so anything you asked for... you got.

no i wasnt, it was just a hookup. i jst didnt kno if i had the nerve to follow thru. im glad that he wasnt shy about getn things startd, but im glad he wasnt pushy either.
once we got startd tho, i was kool. lol, be4 he came thru i told myself i wouldnt have a dick in my mouth. um, things aint work out quite as planned tho. so anyways...

>>i think i'd like to pay for ass.

how about the other way around? ive been offered $$$ to have my dick sucked. i won't lie, it was tempting...but i ddnt kno how i would feel after the fact so i had to pass on that.

>hey.... anyone want to share about their 'first' homo
>experience.
>
>like... age/

i was 19.

>how'dyou start talking to the person/

we were study partners.

how'd you
>know the person was queer/

he was out and so was i.

>where did you meet them/

we 1st met on the phone when he called to talk to me about The U of Chi as a recruiter/mentor. then i met him on campus in my 1st yr either in a dining hall, at a party, or at a meeting of the Org of Black Students. i can't remember. we ended up in the same physics class in my 2nd yr and became study partners.

were you
>nervous?/

i didn't know what was happening until it was already in progress so i didn't have a chance to be nervous. he seduced me after we'd been to see "Waiting to Exhale" (this was 1996) and had a few drinks. we were sitting on the floor and he leaned over to kiss me. i had all my clothes off before it became clear i was about to have sex w/a guy. the act was just that foreign to me though it was something i'd wanted for years.

>did you know what to do?/

i didn't think i did. i just mimicked what i'd seen in movies, i guess. he told me i did a good job.

did it become a
>relationship or was it a one nighter?/

it became a casual relationship. fuckbuddies.

what did you gain/
>lose from the experience- like did u have that 'this is what
>its about!' epiphany or were you lackadaisical bladdybla....

my reaction: "Is that what all the fuss is about? Is that it?" it got better later on.

what's wierd about mine?
when i first moved to the states (kansas city, mo)
the only friends i seemed to make were lesbians
(gaydar must be a motha)
there was deedee..who had one-a those formal,
'im coming out to you' moments
which was so unnecessary because i already knew..
her girl was damn sure there was something going on
between us cause we spent too much time together
(late night? cant find deedee, call akon's cell..)
deedee was the first girl to call me out on checking out girl's asses
(girl, you know i caught you lookin...
is there something you want to admit??
;no babe, im just coolin')

then charmaine... i was her token black friend (she was white).
(at least i felt that way..)
girl usedta spend a lot of time wanting to be in my arms.
i just wasn't feeling her like that

then there was kira... (my first).
who spent a couple of months heavily flirting,
peeping under the short skirts i usedta wear when i knew
we would be hanging out
lettin me know what she wanted and why she wanted it (ooohhh weee!!!)
it was a matter of time... we both knew it.
i just didn't want to accept it.
until the day we were out in the woods somewhere,
smoking weed and i *kinda jumped on her.

we had some good times, kira and i
including the time we got busted by a cop for being in a park after dusk
(y'know how hard it is to disentangle in a lil' nissan altima with the law looking on?)


then after kira came the girl that was to break my heart.
(and make me realise it was deeper than the physical..
which is what i kept saying to myself. it's just physical..
aint nothing to it)
*sigh.
i still dream about this girl.
she's in chicago somewhere. makin music or someshit
she'll always hold that special place in my heart.
this girl usedta kiss me in from of her mom, her cousins n' em...
it was my first truly open experience...
and she made me appreciate what being with a woman was really about.

i love reminiscing about past relationships.
they all mean something to me.......

that was a good read! you got me over here reminiscing now.

okay so our heterosexual brother Mash_Comp put up a post being real about premature ejaculation and he encouraged us all to do the same. i did (yes, it's happened). it happens to all of us i know. in that post he also got real about the (i assume vaginal?) intercourse marathons women claim to love. he knows not all of us can or have interest in stroking it for that long. word.

in the post i said i've never had (anal) intercourse on either end for more than 20 minutes b/c i don't see the point of going on beyond that except for bragging rights (which is a worthy goal, sure). what do you say? you don't have to reveal how long you go at it if you don't want (i know how anti-sexual some of you are *looks at Huey*) but i really want to know if you're going for more than 20 minutes on either end on a regular basis. and i don't mean 10 minutes as a top and then 15 as a bottom i mean total time in either spot top or bottom.

i gotta ask my crew about this when i see them this weekend.

NO.

I get bored & crampy doing any ONE act/position for 20 minutes.

I prefer to do whatever feels good... or whatever my creative mind finds appropriate -- which sometimes includes repeating positions, varying rhythms... even taking breaks and chillin' in a position for awhile (especially if it feels good without requiring motion, friction or acrobatics).

Whatever's clever... and wearing it out with the repetition isn't my idea of clever.

That said -- because of that preference (even when I used to have sex with women) -- I've never prematurely finished. I guess the technique facilitates it... and you're allowed to finish whenever you/y'all get ready.

and i agree with you.

how you gon start a post and be m.i.a in all the important discussion pieces.

i want you to answer sowhat's qn.

you're right though, i don't.

lol.

hi

Thus, I think some of my friends are trife.

And why would it take anybody that long to ejaculate, anyway?
Truth be told, I think 20 minutes is pushing it.
If you can't cum in 12 minutes, you have a sexual disease that needs to be treated, IMO.